Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 i was recently invited to join the faculty of one of the local acupuncture colleges in my area, Daoist Traditions as a clinic supervisor. as part of the hiring procedures, i was asked to have a name tag made, and was told i could identify myself as a professor. i was surprised, as supervising one clinic shift a week didn't seem to me to meet the academic requirement for professor. i went to wikipedia to look up academic criteria for the professor title, among other info, its say the title is given to those with doctorate degrees. (entry pasted below, scroll down). i have an MSTOM. so i'm wondering if a college can grant the title to any faculty member at will, should the standards wikipedia suggests be met prior to conferring the title. wiki mentions a clinical professorship, which is mostly used in the health sciences for supervising students, which could be part-time and would involve little research responsibilities. still, i'm thinking that without a doctorate degree, the title would be pompous and even bogus. what do y'all think? kath United States [edit<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Academic_rank & action=edit & sectio\ n=71> ] Academic ranks Regular faculty: - *University Professor* or *Institute Professor* (not all universities) - *Distinguished Professor* (usually a " Named Chair " ) - *Professor* ( " Named Chair " ) - *Professor* ( " Full Professor " ) - *Associate Professor* - *Assistant Professor* - *Instructor* (sometimes " Lecturer " ) Traditionally, Assistant Professor has been the usual entry-level rank for faculty who hold doctorates, although this depends on the institution and the field. While Instructorships seldom require a doctorate, competition for jobs has led to an increase in the number of Instructors who hold PhDs or other terminal degrees. The rank of Associate Professor usually indicates that the individual has been granted tenure at the institution. Professor is often the highest rank attained by a senior faculty member, although some institutions may offer some unique title to a senior faculty member whose research or publications have achieved wide recognition. This is most often a " named chair " : for example, the " John Doe Professor of Philosophy " . Large research universities also offer a small fraction of tenured faculty the title of " Distinguished Professor " to recognize outstanding and broad contributions to the advancement of a field of study. The most prestigious academic appointment is the University or Institute Professor. Such faculty members are not usually answerable to deans or department heads and may directly report to the University Provost. Temporary faculty and those with special appointments: " Adjunct " before the name of a rank (Adjunct Assistant Professor, etc.) may indicate a part-time or temporary appointment. Adjunct status may also be given to a faculty member from another academic department whose research or teaching interests overlap substantially with those of the appointing department. " Visiting " before the name of a rank (Visiting Assistant Professor, etc.) almost always indicates a temporary appointment, often to fill a vacancy that has arisen due to the sabbatical or temporary absence of a regular faculty member. " Research " before the name of a rank (Research Assistant Professor, etc.) usually indicates a full-time research position with few or no teaching responsibilities. Research professorships are almost always funded by grants or fellowships apart from the regular university budget. " Clinical " before the name of a rank (Clinical Assistant Professor, etc.) usually indicates a part-time teaching position with limited research responsibilities, especially in the health sciences. At a law school, " clinical " professors may have highly variable teaching and research responsibilities, but all invariably supervise student pro bono<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_bono_publico> law practice <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Practice_of_law>. " Emeritus " before or after the rank Professor or (less commonly) Associate Professor indicates a retired faculty member. Although an Emeritus faculty member is not paid a regular salary, often he or she has office space and at least some access to the university's facilities. The ranks of Lecturer and Senior Lecturer are used at some American universities to denote permanent teaching positions with few or no research responsibilities. At other American universities, the rank of Lecturer is equivalent to that of Instructor. [edit<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Academic_rank & action=edit & sectio\ n=72> ] Other teaching and research personnel -- Kath Bartlett, LAc, MS, BA UCLA Oriental Medicine Experienced, Dedicated, Effective Flying Dragon Liniment: Effective pain relief for muscles & joints Formulated by Kath Bartlett, Traditional Chinese Herbalist Available at Asheville Center for , or web order at: https://www.kamwo.com/shop/product.php?productid=17442 & cat=0 & page=1 Asheville Center For 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777 kbartlett www.AcupunctureAsheville.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Just be true to your self.....your true credentials will be evident in your words, touch and gaze.....Our profession , like many others in the U.S., is falling under the guise of semantic seductions to try to get an edge. It's becoming embarrassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Wikipedia is not a reliable source, dont take it too seriously. I assume you are are licensed health care practioner, your school has said you are a professor at there institution, enjoy it. If they gave you a title you are not licensed for thats different. A professor is not a licensed or certification, its an education role. Have fun professor. regards, david Chinese Medicine , " Kath Bartlett, MS, LAc " wrote: > > i was recently invited to join the faculty of one of the local acupuncture > colleges in my area, Daoist Traditions as a clinic supervisor. as part of > the hiring procedures, i was asked to have a name tag made, and was told i > could identify myself as a professor. i was surprised, as supervising one > clinic shift a week didn't seem to me to meet the academic requirement for > professor. > > i went to wikipedia to look up academic criteria for the professor title, > among other info, its say the title is given to those with doctorate > degrees. (entry pasted below, scroll down). i have an MSTOM. so i'm > wondering if a college can grant the title to any faculty member at will, > should the standards wikipedia suggests be met prior to conferring the > title. wiki mentions a clinical professorship, which is mostly used in the > health sciences for supervising students, which could be part-time and would > involve little research responsibilities. still, i'm thinking that without > a doctorate degree, the title would be pompous and even bogus. > > what do y'all think? > > kath > > United States > > [edit<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? title=Academic_rank & action=edit & section=71> > ] Academic ranks > > Regular faculty: > > - *University Professor* or *Institute Professor* (not all > universities) > - *Distinguished Professor* (usually a " Named Chair " ) > - *Professor* ( " Named Chair " ) > - *Professor* ( " Full Professor " ) > - *Associate Professor* > - *Assistant Professor* > - *Instructor* (sometimes " Lecturer " ) > > Traditionally, Assistant Professor has been the usual entry-level rank for > faculty who hold doctorates, although this depends on the institution and > the field. While Instructorships seldom require a doctorate, competition for > jobs has led to an increase in the number of Instructors who hold PhDs or > other terminal degrees. The rank of Associate Professor usually indicates > that the individual has been granted tenure at the institution. Professor is > often the highest rank attained by a senior faculty member, although some > institutions may offer some unique title to a senior faculty member whose > research or publications have achieved wide recognition. This is most often > a " named chair " : for example, the " John Doe Professor of Philosophy " . Large > research universities also offer a small fraction of tenured faculty the > title of " Distinguished Professor " to recognize outstanding and broad > contributions to the advancement of a field of study. The most prestigious > academic appointment is the University or Institute Professor. Such faculty > members are not usually answerable to deans or department heads and may > directly report to the University Provost. > > Temporary faculty and those with special appointments: > > " Adjunct " before the name of a rank (Adjunct Assistant Professor, etc.) may > indicate a part-time or temporary appointment. Adjunct status may also be > given to a faculty member from another academic department whose research or > teaching interests overlap substantially with those of the appointing > department. > > " Visiting " before the name of a rank (Visiting Assistant Professor, etc.) > almost always indicates a temporary appointment, often to fill a vacancy > that has arisen due to the sabbatical or temporary absence of a regular > faculty member. > > " Research " before the name of a rank (Research Assistant Professor, etc.) > usually indicates a full-time research position with few or no teaching > responsibilities. Research professorships are almost always funded by grants > or fellowships apart from the regular university budget. > > " Clinical " before the name of a rank (Clinical Assistant Professor, etc.) > usually indicates a part-time teaching position with limited research > responsibilities, especially in the health sciences. At a law school, > " clinical " professors may have highly variable teaching and research > responsibilities, but all invariably supervise student pro > bono<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_bono_publico> law > practice <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Practice_of_law>. > > " Emeritus " before or after the rank Professor or (less commonly) Associate > Professor indicates a retired faculty member. Although an Emeritus faculty > member is not paid a regular salary, often he or she has office space and at > least some access to the university's facilities. > > The ranks of Lecturer and Senior Lecturer are used at some American > universities to denote permanent teaching positions with few or no research > responsibilities. At other American universities, the rank of Lecturer is > equivalent to that of Instructor. > > [edit<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? title=Academic_rank & action=edit & section=72> > ] Other teaching and research personnel > > -- > Kath Bartlett, LAc, MS, BA UCLA > Oriental Medicine > Experienced, Dedicated, Effective > > Flying Dragon Liniment: > Effective pain relief for muscles & joints > Formulated by Kath Bartlett, Traditional Chinese Herbalist > Available at Asheville Center for , or web order at: > https://www.kamwo.com/shop/product.php?productid=17442 & cat=0 & page=1 > > > Asheville Center For > 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two > Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777 > kbartlett > www.AcupunctureAsheville.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 i did some more googling and found several colleges hiring profs with MS degrees. what seems to be consistant is that new hires and part-time faculty begin as instructors, lecturers or assist profs. adjuct and full professors are full time positions, full professorship granted with tenure. all of these positions involve teaching and research responcibilities. there is something called a clinical professor which is more specific to clinical supervision in the health sciences, and does not necc. involve teaching, although the rank does seem to include clinical research. i don't want to make a mountain out of a molehill, and of course love the idea of becoming a prof, but i don't what to misrepresent myself either. i'm wondering if a prof rank without research or tenure is misleading. at this point i'm thinking that assist clinical prof is a more accurate discription of a part-time faculty position as a clinic supervisor. if it really is up to the college to bestow academic rank, and this school is ok with prof for a clinic supervisor, then as you say, i'll enjoy my laurels. kath On 12/9/07, flyingstarsfengshui <flyingstarsfengshui wrote: > > Wikipedia is not a reliable source, dont take it too seriously. I > assume you are are licensed health care practioner, your school has > said you are a professor at there institution, enjoy it. If they > gave you a title you are not licensed for thats different. A > professor is not a licensed or certification, its an education role. > > Have fun professor. > > regards, > david > > --- In Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\ ogroups.com>, > " Kath Bartlett, > MS, LAc " wrote: > > > > i was recently invited to join the faculty of one of the local > acupuncture > > colleges in my area, Daoist Traditions as a clinic supervisor. as > part of > > the hiring procedures, i was asked to have a name tag made, and > was told i > > could identify myself as a professor. i was surprised, as > supervising one > > clinic shift a week didn't seem to me to meet the academic > requirement for > > professor. > > > > i went to wikipedia to look up academic criteria for the professor > title, > > among other info, its say the title is given to those with > doctorate > > degrees. (entry pasted below, scroll down). i have an MSTOM. so > i'm > > wondering if a college can grant the title to any faculty member > at will, > > should the standards wikipedia suggests be met prior to conferring > the > > title. wiki mentions a clinical professorship, which is mostly > used in the > > health sciences for supervising students, which could be part-time > and would > > involve little research responsibilities. still, i'm thinking > that without > > a doctorate degree, the title would be pompous and even bogus. > > > > what do y'all think? > > > > kath > > > > United States > > > > [edit<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? > title=Academic_rank & action=edit & section=71> > > ] Academic ranks > > > > Regular faculty: > > > > - *University Professor* or *Institute Professor* (not all > > universities) > > - *Distinguished Professor* (usually a " Named Chair " ) > > - *Professor* ( " Named Chair " ) > > - *Professor* ( " Full Professor " ) > > - *Associate Professor* > > - *Assistant Professor* > > - *Instructor* (sometimes " Lecturer " ) > > > > Traditionally, Assistant Professor has been the usual entry-level > rank for > > faculty who hold doctorates, although this depends on the > institution and > > the field. While Instructorships seldom require a doctorate, > competition for > > jobs has led to an increase in the number of Instructors who hold > PhDs or > > other terminal degrees. The rank of Associate Professor usually > indicates > > that the individual has been granted tenure at the institution. > Professor is > > often the highest rank attained by a senior faculty member, > although some > > institutions may offer some unique title to a senior faculty > member whose > > research or publications have achieved wide recognition. This is > most often > > a " named chair " : for example, the " John Doe Professor of > Philosophy " . Large > > research universities also offer a small fraction of tenured > faculty the > > title of " Distinguished Professor " to recognize outstanding and > broad > > contributions to the advancement of a field of study. The most > prestigious > > academic appointment is the University or Institute Professor. > Such faculty > > members are not usually answerable to deans or department heads > and may > > directly report to the University Provost. > > > > Temporary faculty and those with special appointments: > > > > " Adjunct " before the name of a rank (Adjunct Assistant Professor, > etc.) may > > indicate a part-time or temporary appointment. Adjunct status may > also be > > given to a faculty member from another academic department whose > research or > > teaching interests overlap substantially with those of the > appointing > > department. > > > > " Visiting " before the name of a rank (Visiting Assistant > Professor, etc.) > > almost always indicates a temporary appointment, often to fill a > vacancy > > that has arisen due to the sabbatical or temporary absence of a > regular > > faculty member. > > > > " Research " before the name of a rank (Research Assistant > Professor, etc.) > > usually indicates a full-time research position with few or no > teaching > > responsibilities. Research professorships are almost always funded > by grants > > or fellowships apart from the regular university budget. > > > > " Clinical " before the name of a rank (Clinical Assistant > Professor, etc.) > > usually indicates a part-time teaching position with limited > research > > responsibilities, especially in the health sciences. At a law > school, > > " clinical " professors may have highly variable teaching and > research > > responsibilities, but all invariably supervise student pro > > bono<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_bono_publico> law > > practice <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Practice_of_law>. > > > > " Emeritus " before or after the rank Professor or (less commonly) > Associate > > Professor indicates a retired faculty member. Although an Emeritus > faculty > > member is not paid a regular salary, often he or she has office > space and at > > least some access to the university's facilities. > > > > The ranks of Lecturer and Senior Lecturer are used at some American > > universities to denote permanent teaching positions with few or no > research > > responsibilities. At other American universities, the rank of > Lecturer is > > equivalent to that of Instructor. > > > > [edit<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? > title=Academic_rank & action=edit & section=72> > > ] Other teaching and research personnel > > > > -- > > > > Oriental Medicine > > Experienced, Dedicated, Effective > > > > Flying Dragon Liniment: > > Effective pain relief for muscles & joints > > Formulated by Kath Bartlett, Traditional Chinese Herbalist > > Available at Asheville Center for , or web order > at: > > https://www.kamwo.com/shop/product.php?productid=17442 & cat=0 & page=1 > > > > > > Asheville Center For > > 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two > > Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777 > > kbartlett > > www.AcupunctureAsheville.com <http://www.acupunctureasheville.com/> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Kath: Enjoy the title, as David says. I was a professor at a community college where no research was required, only slaving through 5 years of teaching a jillion students (along with other responsbilities). I really did enjoy it. I came in as a assistant professor because of my professional business expereince. Then I worked my way up to professor. Okay, Kath. I will analyze this on a 5 Element theory. What is it about stepping up and taking what is yours - what has been legitmately determined by that college. What is it about being a tree in the forest, standing tall, opening it's branches for all to see. Anne -------------- Original message ---------------------- " " > i did some more googling and found several colleges hiring profs with MS > degrees. what seems to be consistant is that new hires and part-time > faculty begin as instructors, lecturers or assist profs. adjuct and full > professors are full time positions, full professorship granted with tenure. > all of these positions involve teaching and research responcibilities. > > there is something called a clinical professor which is more specific to > clinical supervision in the health sciences, and does not necc. involve > teaching, although the rank does seem to include clinical research. > > i don't want to make a mountain out of a molehill, and of course love the > idea of becoming a prof, but i don't what to misrepresent myself either. > i'm wondering if a prof rank without research or tenure is misleading. at > this point i'm thinking that assist clinical prof is a more accurate > discription of a part-time faculty position as a clinic supervisor. > > if it really is up to the college to bestow academic rank, and this school > is ok with prof for a clinic supervisor, then as you say, i'll enjoy my > laurels. > > kath > > > On 12/9/07, flyingstarsfengshui <flyingstarsfengshui wrote: > > > > Wikipedia is not a reliable source, dont take it too seriously. I > > assume you are are licensed health care practioner, your school has > > said you are a professor at there institution, enjoy it. If they > > gave you a title you are not licensed for thats different. A > > professor is not a licensed or certification, its an education role. > > > > Have fun professor. > > > > regards, > > david > > > > --- In > Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho > ogroups.com>, > > " Kath Bartlett, > > MS, LAc " wrote: > > > > > > i was recently invited to join the faculty of one of the local > > acupuncture > > > colleges in my area, Daoist Traditions as a clinic supervisor. as > > part of > > > the hiring procedures, i was asked to have a name tag made, and > > was told i > > > could identify myself as a professor. i was surprised, as > > supervising one > > > clinic shift a week didn't seem to me to meet the academic > > requirement for > > > professor. > > > > > > i went to wikipedia to look up academic criteria for the professor > > title, > > > among other info, its say the title is given to those with > > doctorate > > > degrees. (entry pasted below, scroll down). i have an MSTOM. so > > i'm > > > wondering if a college can grant the title to any faculty member > > at will, > > > should the standards wikipedia suggests be met prior to conferring > > the > > > title. wiki mentions a clinical professorship, which is mostly > > used in the > > > health sciences for supervising students, which could be part-time > > and would > > > involve little research responsibilities. still, i'm thinking > > that without > > > a doctorate degree, the title would be pompous and even bogus. > > > > > > what do y'all think? > > > > > > kath > > > > > > United States > > > > > > [edit<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? > > title=Academic_rank & action=edit & section=71> > > > ] Academic ranks > > > > > > Regular faculty: > > > > > > - *University Professor* or *Institute Professor* (not all > > > universities) > > > - *Distinguished Professor* (usually a " Named Chair " ) > > > - *Professor* ( " Named Chair " ) > > > - *Professor* ( " Full Professor " ) > > > - *Associate Professor* > > > - *Assistant Professor* > > > - *Instructor* (sometimes " Lecturer " ) > > > > > > Traditionally, Assistant Professor has been the usual entry-level > > rank for > > > faculty who hold doctorates, although this depends on the > > institution and > > > the field. While Instructorships seldom require a doctorate, > > competition for > > > jobs has led to an increase in the number of Instructors who hold > > PhDs or > > > other terminal degrees. The rank of Associate Professor usually > > indicates > > > that the individual has been granted tenure at the institution. > > Professor is > > > often the highest rank attained by a senior faculty member, > > although some > > > institutions may offer some unique title to a senior faculty > > member whose > > > research or publications have achieved wide recognition. This is > > most often > > > a " named chair " : for example, the " John Doe Professor of > > Philosophy " . Large > > > research universities also offer a small fraction of tenured > > faculty the > > > title of " Distinguished Professor " to recognize outstanding and > > broad > > > contributions to the advancement of a field of study. The most > > prestigious > > > academic appointment is the University or Institute Professor. > > Such faculty > > > members are not usually answerable to deans or department heads > > and may > > > directly report to the University Provost. > > > > > > Temporary faculty and those with special appointments: > > > > > > " Adjunct " before the name of a rank (Adjunct Assistant Professor, > > etc.) may > > > indicate a part-time or temporary appointment. Adjunct status may > > also be > > > given to a faculty member from another academic department whose > > research or > > > teaching interests overlap substantially with those of the > > appointing > > > department. > > > > > > " Visiting " before the name of a rank (Visiting Assistant > > Professor, etc.) > > > almost always indicates a temporary appointment, often to fill a > > vacancy > > > that has arisen due to the sabbatical or temporary absence of a > > regular > > > faculty member. > > > > > > " Research " before the name of a rank (Research Assistant > > Professor, etc.) > > > usually indicates a full-time research position with few or no > > teaching > > > responsibilities. Research professorships are almost always funded > > by grants > > > or fellowships apart from the regular university budget. > > > > > > " Clinical " before the name of a rank (Clinical Assistant > > Professor, etc.) > > > usually indicates a part-time teaching position with limited > > research > > > responsibilities, especially in the health sciences. At a law > > school, > > > " clinical " professors may have highly variable teaching and > > research > > > responsibilities, but all invariably supervise student pro > > > bono<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_bono_publico> law > > > practice <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Practice_of_law>. > > > > > > " Emeritus " before or after the rank Professor or (less commonly) > > Associate > > > Professor indicates a retired faculty member. Although an Emeritus > > faculty > > > member is not paid a regular salary, often he or she has office > > space and at > > > least some access to the university's facilities. > > > > > > The ranks of Lecturer and Senior Lecturer are used at some American > > > universities to denote permanent teaching positions with few or no > > research > > > responsibilities. At other American universities, the rank of > > Lecturer is > > > equivalent to that of Instructor. > > > > > > [edit<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? > > title=Academic_rank & action=edit & section=72> > > > ] Other teaching and research personnel > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Oriental Medicine > > > Experienced, Dedicated, Effective > > > > > > Flying Dragon Liniment: > > > Effective pain relief for muscles & joints > > > Formulated by Kath Bartlett, Traditional Chinese Herbalist > > > Available at Asheville Center for , or web order > > at: > > > https://www.kamwo.com/shop/product.php?productid=17442 & cat=0 & page=1 > > > > > > > > > Asheville Center For > > > 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two > > > Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777 > > > kbartlett > > > www.AcupunctureAsheville.com <http://www.acupunctureasheville.com/> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Kath, Congratulations on your new professorship! Andrea Beth " " wrote: i did some more googling and found several colleges hiring profs with MS degrees. what seems to be consistant is that new hires and part-time faculty begin as instructors, lecturers or assist profs. adjuct and full professors are full time positions, full professorship granted with tenure. all of these positions involve teaching and research responcibilities. there is something called a clinical professor which is more specific to clinical supervision in the health sciences, and does not necc. involve teaching, although the rank does seem to include clinical research. i don't want to make a mountain out of a molehill, and of course love the idea of becoming a prof, but i don't what to misrepresent myself either. i'm wondering if a prof rank without research or tenure is misleading. at this point i'm thinking that assist clinical prof is a more accurate discription of a part-time faculty position as a clinic supervisor. if it really is up to the college to bestow academic rank, and this school is ok with prof for a clinic supervisor, then as you say, i'll enjoy my laurels. kath On 12/9/07, flyingstarsfengshui wrote: > > Wikipedia is not a reliable source, dont take it too seriously. I > assume you are are licensed health care practioner, your school has > said you are a professor at there institution, enjoy it. If they > gave you a title you are not licensed for thats different. A > professor is not a licensed or certification, its an education role. > > Have fun professor. > > regards, > david > > Chinese Medicine , > " Kath Bartlett, > MS, LAc " wrote: > > > > i was recently invited to join the faculty of one of the local > acupuncture > > colleges in my area, Daoist Traditions as a clinic supervisor. as > part of > > the hiring procedures, i was asked to have a name tag made, and > was told i > > could identify myself as a professor. i was surprised, as > supervising one > > clinic shift a week didn't seem to me to meet the academic > requirement for > > professor. > > > > i went to wikipedia to look up academic criteria for the professor > title, > > among other info, its say the title is given to those with > doctorate > > degrees. (entry pasted below, scroll down). i have an MSTOM. so > i'm > > wondering if a college can grant the title to any faculty member > at will, > > should the standards wikipedia suggests be met prior to conferring > the > > title. wiki mentions a clinical professorship, which is mostly > used in the > > health sciences for supervising students, which could be part-time > and would > > involve little research responsibilities. still, i'm thinking > that without > > a doctorate degree, the title would be pompous and even bogus. > > > > what do y'all think? > > > > kath > > > > United States > > > > [edit > title=Academic_rank & action=edit & section=71> > > ] Academic ranks > > > > Regular faculty: > > > > - *University Professor* or *Institute Professor* (not all > > universities) > > - *Distinguished Professor* (usually a " Named Chair " ) > > - *Professor* ( " Named Chair " ) > > - *Professor* ( " Full Professor " ) > > - *Associate Professor* > > - *Assistant Professor* > > - *Instructor* (sometimes " Lecturer " ) > > > > Traditionally, Assistant Professor has been the usual entry-level > rank for > > faculty who hold doctorates, although this depends on the > institution and > > the field. While Instructorships seldom require a doctorate, > competition for > > jobs has led to an increase in the number of Instructors who hold > PhDs or > > other terminal degrees. The rank of Associate Professor usually > indicates > > that the individual has been granted tenure at the institution. > Professor is > > often the highest rank attained by a senior faculty member, > although some > > institutions may offer some unique title to a senior faculty > member whose > > research or publications have achieved wide recognition. This is > most often > > a " named chair " : for example, the " John Doe Professor of > Philosophy " . Large > > research universities also offer a small fraction of tenured > faculty the > > title of " Distinguished Professor " to recognize outstanding and > broad > > contributions to the advancement of a field of study. The most > prestigious > > academic appointment is the University or Institute Professor. > Such faculty > > members are not usually answerable to deans or department heads > and may > > directly report to the University Provost. > > > > Temporary faculty and those with special appointments: > > > > " Adjunct " before the name of a rank (Adjunct Assistant Professor, > etc.) may > > indicate a part-time or temporary appointment. Adjunct status may > also be > > given to a faculty member from another academic department whose > research or > > teaching interests overlap substantially with those of the > appointing > > department. > > > > " Visiting " before the name of a rank (Visiting Assistant > Professor, etc.) > > almost always indicates a temporary appointment, often to fill a > vacancy > > that has arisen due to the sabbatical or temporary absence of a > regular > > faculty member. > > > > " Research " before the name of a rank (Research Assistant > Professor, etc.) > > usually indicates a full-time research position with few or no > teaching > > responsibilities. Research professorships are almost always funded > by grants > > or fellowships apart from the regular university budget. > > > > " Clinical " before the name of a rank (Clinical Assistant > Professor, etc.) > > usually indicates a part-time teaching position with limited > research > > responsibilities, especially in the health sciences. At a law > school, > > " clinical " professors may have highly variable teaching and > research > > responsibilities, but all invariably supervise student pro > > bono law > > practice . > > > > " Emeritus " before or after the rank Professor or (less commonly) > Associate > > Professor indicates a retired faculty member. Although an Emeritus > faculty > > member is not paid a regular salary, often he or she has office > space and at > > least some access to the university's facilities. > > > > The ranks of Lecturer and Senior Lecturer are used at some American > > universities to denote permanent teaching positions with few or no > research > > responsibilities. At other American universities, the rank of > Lecturer is > > equivalent to that of Instructor. > > > > [edit > title=Academic_rank & action=edit & section=72> > > ] Other teaching and research personnel > > > > -- > > > > Oriental Medicine > > Experienced, Dedicated, Effective > > > > Flying Dragon Liniment: > > Effective pain relief for muscles & joints > > Formulated by Kath Bartlett, Traditional Chinese Herbalist > > Available at Asheville Center for , or web order > at: > > https://www.kamwo.com/shop/product.php?productid=17442 & cat=0 & page=1 > > > > > > Asheville Center For > > 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two > > Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777 > > kbartlett > > www.AcupunctureAsheville.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Very well said Turiya. I teach at the local acupuncture college and I get called all kinds of things from Doctor (I'm not), Professor, sir and occasionally other names that shouldn't be repeated... :-) In my experience the best healers aren't too concerned about clothing themselves in a title. You are what you are and you do what you do and a title won't change that. True credentials come through in how powerfully you can be and do this medicine. Chris Vedeler L.Ac. Turiya Hill wrote: > Just be true to your self.....your true credentials will be evident in your words, touch and gaze.....Our profession , like many others in the U.S., is falling under the guise of semantic seductions to try to get an edge. It's becoming embarrassing. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Mebbe she'll grow too big for her britches. Too much fertiliser. She'll take over the whole forest. Hugo Okay, Kath. I will analyze this on a 5 Element theory. What is it about stepping up and taking what is yours - what has been legitmately determined by that college. What is it about being a tree in the forest, standing tall, opening it's branches for all to see. Anne ------------ -- Original message ------------ --------- - " " <acukath (AT) gmail (DOT) com> > i did some more googling and found several colleges hiring profs with MS > degrees. what seems to be consistant is that new hires and part-time > faculty begin as instructors, lecturers or assist profs. adjuct and full > professors are full time positions, full professorship granted with tenure. > all of these positions involve teaching and research responcibilities. > > there is something called a clinical professor which is more specific to > clinical supervision in the health sciences, and does not necc. involve > teaching, although the rank does seem to include clinical research. > > i don't want to make a mountain out of a molehill, and of course love the > idea of becoming a prof, but i don't what to misrepresent myself either. > i'm wondering if a prof rank without research or tenure is misleading. at > this point i'm thinking that assist clinical prof is a more accurate > discription of a part-time faculty position as a clinic supervisor. > > if it really is up to the college to bestow academic rank, and this school > is ok with prof for a clinic supervisor, then as you say, i'll enjoy my > laurels. > > kath > > > On 12/9/07, flyingstarsfengshui <flyingstarsfengshui @> wrote: > > > > Wikipedia is not a reliable source, dont take it too seriously. I > > assume you are are licensed health care practioner, your school has > > said you are a professor at there institution, enjoy it. If they > > gave you a title you are not licensed for thats different. A > > professor is not a licensed or certification, its an education role. > > > > Have fun professor. > > > > regards, > > david > > > > --- In > Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine <Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine %40yaho > ogroups.com> , > > " Kath Bartlett, > > MS, LAc " <acukath > wrote: > > > > > > i was recently invited to join the faculty of one of the local > > acupuncture > > > colleges in my area, Daoist Traditions as a clinic supervisor. as > > part of > > > the hiring procedures, i was asked to have a name tag made, and > > was told i > > > could identify myself as a professor. i was surprised, as > > supervising one > > > clinic shift a week didn't seem to me to meet the academic > > requirement for > > > professor. > > > > > > i went to wikipedia to look up academic criteria for the professor > > title, > > > among other info, its say the title is given to those with > > doctorate > > > degrees. (entry pasted below, scroll down). i have an MSTOM. so > > i'm > > > wondering if a college can grant the title to any faculty member > > at will, > > > should the standards wikipedia suggests be met prior to conferring > > the > > > title. wiki mentions a clinical professorship, which is mostly > > used in the > > > health sciences for supervising students, which could be part-time > > and would > > > involve little research responsibilities. still, i'm thinking > > that without > > > a doctorate degree, the title would be pompous and even bogus. > > > > > > what do y'all think? > > > > > > kath > > > > > > United States > > > > > > [edit<http://en.wikipedia .org/w/index. php? > > title=Academic_ rank & action= edit & section= 71> > > > ] Academic ranks > > > > > > Regular faculty: > > > > > > - *University Professor* or *Institute Professor* (not all > > > universities) > > > - *Distinguished Professor* (usually a " Named Chair " ) > > > - *Professor* ( " Named Chair " ) > > > - *Professor* ( " Full Professor " ) > > > - *Associate Professor* > > > - *Assistant Professor* > > > - *Instructor* (sometimes " Lecturer " ) > > > > > > Traditionally, Assistant Professor has been the usual entry-level > > rank for > > > faculty who hold doctorates, although this depends on the > > institution and > > > the field. While Instructorships seldom require a doctorate, > > competition for > > > jobs has led to an increase in the number of Instructors who hold > > PhDs or > > > other terminal degrees. The rank of Associate Professor usually > > indicates > > > that the individual has been granted tenure at the institution. > > Professor is > > > often the highest rank attained by a senior faculty member, > > although some > > > institutions may offer some unique title to a senior faculty > > member whose > > > research or publications have achieved wide recognition. This is > > most often > > > a " named chair " : for example, the " John Doe Professor of > > Philosophy " . Large > > > research universities also offer a small fraction of tenured > > faculty the > > > title of " Distinguished Professor " to recognize outstanding and > > broad > > > contributions to the advancement of a field of study. The most > > prestigious > > > academic appointment is the University or Institute Professor. > > Such faculty > > > members are not usually answerable to deans or department heads > > and may > > > directly report to the University Provost. > > > > > > Temporary faculty and those with special appointments: > > > > > > " Adjunct " before the name of a rank (Adjunct Assistant Professor, > > etc.) may > > > indicate a part-time or temporary appointment. Adjunct status may > > also be > > > given to a faculty member from another academic department whose > > research or > > > teaching interests overlap substantially with those of the > > appointing > > > department. > > > > > > " Visiting " before the name of a rank (Visiting Assistant > > Professor, etc.) > > > almost always indicates a temporary appointment, often to fill a > > vacancy > > > that has arisen due to the sabbatical or temporary absence of a > > regular > > > faculty member. > > > > > > " Research " before the name of a rank (Research Assistant > > Professor, etc.) > > > usually indicates a full-time research position with few or no > > teaching > > > responsibilities. Research professorships are almost always funded > > by grants > > > or fellowships apart from the regular university budget. > > > > > > " Clinical " before the name of a rank (Clinical Assistant > > Professor, etc.) > > > usually indicates a part-time teaching position with limited > > research > > > responsibilities, especially in the health sciences. At a law > > school, > > > " clinical " professors may have highly variable teaching and > > research > > > responsibilities, but all invariably supervise student pro > > > bono<http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Pro_bono_ publico> law > > > practice <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Practice_ of_law>. > > > > > > " Emeritus " before or after the rank Professor or (less commonly) > > Associate > > > Professor indicates a retired faculty member. Although an Emeritus > > faculty > > > member is not paid a regular salary, often he or she has office > > space and at > > > least some access to the university's facilities. > > > > > > The ranks of Lecturer and Senior Lecturer are used at some American > > > universities to denote permanent teaching positions with few or no > > research > > > responsibilities. At other American universities, the rank of > > Lecturer is > > > equivalent to that of Instructor. > > > > > > [edit<http://en.wikipedia .org/w/index. php? > > title=Academic_ rank & action= edit & section= 72> > > > ] Other teaching and research personnel > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Oriental Medicine > > > Experienced, Dedicated, Effective > > > > > > Flying Dragon Liniment: > > > Effective pain relief for muscles & joints > > > Formulated by Kath Bartlett, Traditional Chinese Herbalist > > > Available at Asheville Center for , or web order > > at: > > > https://www. kamwo.com/ shop/product. php?productid= 17442 & cat= 0 & page=1 > > > > > > > > > Asheville Center For > > > 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two > > > Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777 > > > kbartlett@.. . > > > www.AcupunctureAshe ville.com <http://www.acupunct ureasheville. com/> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Re: credentials - Maybe should be a little careful about run-on line breaks showing . . . BA UCLA Board Certified in OM. That caught my attention a while back. I have to continually ask people to not call me Master in public ; ........... massa joe will be fine ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Hi Kath, Let me humbly reply, given my experience in academia. " Professor " means simply that-- you are professing, in this case what you know given your experience and expertise in OM.Usually it is a substitute for " teacher " in higher education. It is not a rank by any means, just a title that seems to provide for some, not all, a sense of maybe respect or distance or maybe something else, that, in effect, creates an atmosphere that some students seem to need in order to learn. I am not much for titles personally. My best classes were ones where the student called me by my first name or teasingly, by some silly derivation (you can imagine some given my last name! LOL). In my humble opinion, respect comes from who you are and a good atmosphere will emerge naturally from that. I have always found that I learned as much from teaching as my students did, albeit different. So enjoy learning. You will be great! Diane Diane M. Notarianni Ph.D. L.Ac., Dipl. Ac Cultural Medical Anthropologist Nationally Certified Practitioner of Asian Medicine 520.975.9959 Diane Fall Down Seven Times, Get up Eight (Chinese Proverb)  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2007 Report Share Posted December 10, 2007 Kath, I taught core curricullum courses at an Acupuncture College for a number of years. Later, I applied for admission to a P.hD. program in Medical Anthroplolgy at a prominent California University. On the CV portion of my application, I mentioned that I had a number of years' experience as a " professor " of acupuncture. After questioning me about what I meant by " Professor, " I can tell you that the admissions board was NOT AT ALL impressed. The title " Professor " does have specific conotations within academia, and by those standards, part-time clinical supervision at a provincial acupuncture college would not qualify. I think this actually points to a larger issue within the OM universe: the fact that much of what we do is self-appointed, unregulated, and rarely subjected to clinical trials. It's all good for business, but maybe not so good for the profession in the long run. EM Chinese Medicine , " Kath Bartlett, MS, LAc " wrote: > > i was recently invited to join the faculty of one of the local acupuncture > colleges in my area, Daoist Traditions as a clinic supervisor. as part of > the hiring procedures, i was asked to have a name tag made, and was told i > could identify myself as a professor. i was surprised, as supervising one > clinic shift a week didn't seem to me to meet the academic requirement for > professor. > > i went to wikipedia to look up academic criteria for the professor title, > among other info, its say the title is given to those with doctorate > degrees. (entry pasted below, scroll down). i have an MSTOM. so i'm > wondering if a college can grant the title to any faculty member at will, > should the standards wikipedia suggests be met prior to conferring the > title. wiki mentions a clinical professorship, which is mostly used in the > health sciences for supervising students, which could be part-time and would > involve little research responsibilities. still, i'm thinking that without > a doctorate degree, the title would be pompous and even bogus. > > what do y'all think? > > kath > > United States > > [edit<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? title=Academic_rank & action=edit & section=71> > ] Academic ranks > > Regular faculty: > > - *University Professor* or *Institute Professor* (not all > universities) > - *Distinguished Professor* (usually a " Named Chair " ) > - *Professor* ( " Named Chair " ) > - *Professor* ( " Full Professor " ) > - *Associate Professor* > - *Assistant Professor* > - *Instructor* (sometimes " Lecturer " ) > > Traditionally, Assistant Professor has been the usual entry-level rank for > faculty who hold doctorates, although this depends on the institution and > the field. While Instructorships seldom require a doctorate, competition for > jobs has led to an increase in the number of Instructors who hold PhDs or > other terminal degrees. The rank of Associate Professor usually indicates > that the individual has been granted tenure at the institution. Professor is > often the highest rank attained by a senior faculty member, although some > institutions may offer some unique title to a senior faculty member whose > research or publications have achieved wide recognition. This is most often > a " named chair " : for example, the " John Doe Professor of Philosophy " . Large > research universities also offer a small fraction of tenured faculty the > title of " Distinguished Professor " to recognize outstanding and broad > contributions to the advancement of a field of study. The most prestigious > academic appointment is the University or Institute Professor. Such faculty > members are not usually answerable to deans or department heads and may > directly report to the University Provost. > > Temporary faculty and those with special appointments: > > " Adjunct " before the name of a rank (Adjunct Assistant Professor, etc.) may > indicate a part-time or temporary appointment. Adjunct status may also be > given to a faculty member from another academic department whose research or > teaching interests overlap substantially with those of the appointing > department. > > " Visiting " before the name of a rank (Visiting Assistant Professor, etc.) > almost always indicates a temporary appointment, often to fill a vacancy > that has arisen due to the sabbatical or temporary absence of a regular > faculty member. > > " Research " before the name of a rank (Research Assistant Professor, etc.) > usually indicates a full-time research position with few or no teaching > responsibilities. Research professorships are almost always funded by grants > or fellowships apart from the regular university budget. > > " Clinical " before the name of a rank (Clinical Assistant Professor, etc.) > usually indicates a part-time teaching position with limited research > responsibilities, especially in the health sciences. At a law school, > " clinical " professors may have highly variable teaching and research > responsibilities, but all invariably supervise student pro > bono<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_bono_publico> law > practice <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Practice_of_law>. > > " Emeritus " before or after the rank Professor or (less commonly) Associate > Professor indicates a retired faculty member. Although an Emeritus faculty > member is not paid a regular salary, often he or she has office space and at > least some access to the university's facilities. > > The ranks of Lecturer and Senior Lecturer are used at some American > universities to denote permanent teaching positions with few or no research > responsibilities. At other American universities, the rank of Lecturer is > equivalent to that of Instructor. > > [edit<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? title=Academic_rank & action=edit & section=72> > ] Other teaching and research personnel > > -- > Kath Bartlett, LAc, MS, BA UCLA > Oriental Medicine > Experienced, Dedicated, Effective > > Flying Dragon Liniment: > Effective pain relief for muscles & joints > Formulated by Kath Bartlett, Traditional Chinese Herbalist > Available at Asheville Center for , or web order at: > https://www.kamwo.com/shop/product.php?productid=17442 & cat=0 & page=1 > > > Asheville Center For > 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two > Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777 > kbartlett > www.AcupunctureAsheville.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 EM: thank you for your comments, you spoke to my concern. kath On 12/10/07, establishment_man <establishment_man wrote: > > Kath, > > I taught core curricullum courses at an Acupuncture College for a > number of years. Later, I applied for admission to a P.hD. program > in Medical Anthroplolgy at a prominent California University. On the > CV portion of my application, I mentioned that I had a number of > years' experience as a " professor " of acupuncture. > > After questioning me about what I meant by " Professor, " I can tell > you that the admissions board was NOT AT ALL impressed. The > title " Professor " does have specific conotations within academia, > and by those standards, part-time clinical supervision at a > provincial acupuncture college would not qualify. > > I think this actually points to a larger issue within the OM > universe: the fact that much of what we do is self-appointed, > unregulated, and rarely subjected to clinical trials. It's all good > for business, but maybe not so good for the profession in the long > run. > > EM > > --- In Chinese Medicine <Chinese Medicine%40yaho\ ogroups.com>, > " Kath Bartlett, > MS, LAc " wrote: > > > > i was recently invited to join the faculty of one of the local > acupuncture > > colleges in my area, Daoist Traditions as a clinic supervisor. as > part of > > the hiring procedures, i was asked to have a name tag made, and > was told i > > could identify myself as a professor. i was surprised, as > supervising one > > clinic shift a week didn't seem to me to meet the academic > requirement for > > professor. > > > > i went to wikipedia to look up academic criteria for the professor > title, > > among other info, its say the title is given to those with > doctorate > > degrees. (entry pasted below, scroll down). i have an MSTOM. so > i'm > > wondering if a college can grant the title to any faculty member > at will, > > should the standards wikipedia suggests be met prior to conferring > the > > title. wiki mentions a clinical professorship, which is mostly > used in the > > health sciences for supervising students, which could be part-time > and would > > involve little research responsibilities. still, i'm thinking > that without > > a doctorate degree, the title would be pompous and even bogus. > > > > what do y'all think? > > > > kath > > > > United States > > > > [edit<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? > title=Academic_rank & action=edit & section=71> > > ] Academic ranks > > > > Regular faculty: > > > > - *University Professor* or *Institute Professor* (not all > > universities) > > - *Distinguished Professor* (usually a " Named Chair " ) > > - *Professor* ( " Named Chair " ) > > - *Professor* ( " Full Professor " ) > > - *Associate Professor* > > - *Assistant Professor* > > - *Instructor* (sometimes " Lecturer " ) > > > > Traditionally, Assistant Professor has been the usual entry-level > rank for > > faculty who hold doctorates, although this depends on the > institution and > > the field. While Instructorships seldom require a doctorate, > competition for > > jobs has led to an increase in the number of Instructors who hold > PhDs or > > other terminal degrees. The rank of Associate Professor usually > indicates > > that the individual has been granted tenure at the institution. > Professor is > > often the highest rank attained by a senior faculty member, > although some > > institutions may offer some unique title to a senior faculty > member whose > > research or publications have achieved wide recognition. This is > most often > > a " named chair " : for example, the " John Doe Professor of > Philosophy " . Large > > research universities also offer a small fraction of tenured > faculty the > > title of " Distinguished Professor " to recognize outstanding and > broad > > contributions to the advancement of a field of study. The most > prestigious > > academic appointment is the University or Institute Professor. > Such faculty > > members are not usually answerable to deans or department heads > and may > > directly report to the University Provost. > > > > Temporary faculty and those with special appointments: > > > > " Adjunct " before the name of a rank (Adjunct Assistant Professor, > etc.) may > > indicate a part-time or temporary appointment. Adjunct status may > also be > > given to a faculty member from another academic department whose > research or > > teaching interests overlap substantially with those of the > appointing > > department. > > > > " Visiting " before the name of a rank (Visiting Assistant > Professor, etc.) > > almost always indicates a temporary appointment, often to fill a > vacancy > > that has arisen due to the sabbatical or temporary absence of a > regular > > faculty member. > > > > " Research " before the name of a rank (Research Assistant > Professor, etc.) > > usually indicates a full-time research position with few or no > teaching > > responsibilities. Research professorships are almost always funded > by grants > > or fellowships apart from the regular university budget. > > > > " Clinical " before the name of a rank (Clinical Assistant > Professor, etc.) > > usually indicates a part-time teaching position with limited > research > > responsibilities, especially in the health sciences. At a law > school, > > " clinical " professors may have highly variable teaching and > research > > responsibilities, but all invariably supervise student pro > > bono<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_bono_publico> law > > practice <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Practice_of_law>. > > > > " Emeritus " before or after the rank Professor or (less commonly) > Associate > > Professor indicates a retired faculty member. Although an Emeritus > faculty > > member is not paid a regular salary, often he or she has office > space and at > > least some access to the university's facilities. > > > > The ranks of Lecturer and Senior Lecturer are used at some American > > universities to denote permanent teaching positions with few or no > research > > responsibilities. At other American universities, the rank of > Lecturer is > > equivalent to that of Instructor. > > > > [edit<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? > title=Academic_rank & action=edit & section=72> > > ] Other teaching and research personnel > > > > -- > > > > Oriental Medicine > > Experienced, Dedicated, Effective > > > > Flying Dragon Liniment: > > Effective pain relief for muscles & joints > > Formulated by Kath Bartlett, Traditional Chinese Herbalist > > Available at Asheville Center for , or web order > at: > > https://www.kamwo.com/shop/product.php?productid=17442 & cat=0 & page=1 > > > > > > Asheville Center For > > 70 Woodfin Place, Suite West Wing Two > > Asheville, NC 28801 828.258.2777 > > kbartlett > > www.AcupunctureAsheville.com <http://www.acupunctureasheville.com/> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Diane and all who replied and expressed well wishes regarding the prof title and clinic supervising at Daoist Traditions in Asheville: thank you for your encouragement and thoughtful replies. Since the concensus is that it's ok to consider myself a prof since that's what the school wants to call me, i will i'm less concerned about what students call me and more concerned about presenting myself as something that i am not (puffed-up academic striving?). never the less, i will do my best to live up to any expectations implied of the lofty rank. and i will heed Eman's advice, and will be careful about my cv if/ when approaching univ's. with appreciation, prof bartlett On 12/10/07, Diane M. Notarianni <Diane wrote: > > Hi Kath, > Let me humbly reply, given my experience in academia. " Professor " > means simply that-- you are professing, in this case what you know > given your experience and expertise in OM.Usually it is a substitute > for " teacher " in higher education. It is not a rank by any means, > just a title that seems to provide for some, not all, a sense of > maybe respect or distance or maybe something else, that, in effect, > creates an atmosphere that some students seem to need in order to > learn. I am not much for titles personally. My best classes were ones > where the student called me by my first name or teasingly, by some > silly derivation (you can imagine some given my last name! LOL). In > my humble opinion, respect comes from who you are and a good > atmosphere will emerge naturally from that. > > I have always found that I learned as much from teaching as my > students did, albeit different. So enjoy learning. You will be great! > > Diane > > Diane M. Notarianni Ph.D. L.Ac., Dipl. Ac > Cultural Medical Anthropologist > Nationally Certified Practitioner of Asian Medicine > > 520.975.9959 > Diane <Diane%40OneWorldMedicine.com> > > Fall Down Seven Times, Get up Eight (Chinese Proverb) > >  > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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