Is gender prediction using pulse quality possible?

[Guest guest]

I do not mean for this to sound trivial,but, I seem to remember from my

acupuncture student days that rumor had it that pulse quality could

predict the gender of a baby . All I seem to remember is that a tight

or wiry pulse indicated a boy, whereas a slippery pulse predicted a

girl. Using this as a guideline I have been correct 5 out of 5

times...but that may have been purely coincidental. The reason I ask at

this time is that two of the women are pregnant again and clamoring for

me to " do it again " . (these have all been friends and not

patients!)... Now it has become a matter of curiosity to me, and I got

to wondering if any in this esteemed group has ever heard of such a

thing or if there is anything written on the subject.

I do remember that the pulse is supposed to become more slippery with

pregnancy, due to the increased blood and fluids. In the 5 cases there

were 4 women with very wiry pulses who had boys, and one who had a

decidedly slippery pulse and had a girl.

What do you think? I am curious to know what information is floating

around out there if any.

 

R. Cooper

[Guest guest]

Hi R.,

 

I've had several teachers that were are able to do this with pretty good

accuracy, although

my current teacher is perhaps the best. As the left pulse belongs to Yin and the

right to

Yang, if the left if more slippery and " jumpy " (dong4 or cu4 in Chinese) then he

says girl,

and if the right is more slippery and jumpy then he guesses boy. He also checks

what he

calls the Shenmen pulse, the pulse felt over Shenmen/Heart 7(?) for these

qualities. Lastly

he checks the pulses that can be felt on the raidlal and ulnar aspects of the

middle finger

for these qualities, as well as for location- the more distal the pulse can be

felt, the farther

along the pregnancy. I've been fairly accurate using this method, but still

don't consider

my successful predictions to be statistically significant, and feel that I may

just be lucky at

guessing.

 

Greg

 

Chinese Medicine , " rcooper1us "

<rcooper1us

wrote:

>

> I do not mean for this to sound trivial,but, I seem to remember from my

> acupuncture student days that rumor had it that pulse quality could

> predict the gender of a baby . All I seem to remember is that a tight

> or wiry pulse indicated a boy, whereas a slippery pulse predicted a

> girl. Using this as a guideline I have been correct 5 out of 5

> times...but that may have been purely coincidental. The reason I ask at

> this time is that two of the women are pregnant again and clamoring for

> me to " do it again " . (these have all been friends and not

> patients!)... Now it has become a matter of curiosity to me, and I got

> to wondering if any in this esteemed group has ever heard of such a

> thing or if there is anything written on the subject.

> I do remember that the pulse is supposed to become more slippery with

> pregnancy, due to the increased blood and fluids. In the 5 cases there

> were 4 women with very wiry pulses who had boys, and one who had a

> decidedly slippery pulse and had a girl.

> What do you think? I am curious to know what information is floating

> around out there if any.

>

> R. Cooper

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, there is some material about it, the one i have is in Spanish though, and

it says that if the pregnant woman has a yang pulse, the baby will be boy,

ie. superficial, stronger in cun, stronger in the left hand. Of course these

are 3 different systems, so you can check by checking in which hand the pulse

is stronger and in which position and (if you wish) is it superficial or

deep... But the author warns that the pregnancy should be past the first

trimester otherwise it is impossible.

Following this simple system i have never been wrong,

 

Hope it helps

 

Juan

 

 

El Monday 29 October 2007 00:22:47 rcooper1us escribió:

> I do not mean for this to sound trivial,but, I seem to remember from my

> acupuncture student days that rumor had it that pulse quality could

> predict the gender of a baby . All I seem to remember is that a tight

> or wiry pulse indicated a boy, whereas a slippery pulse predicted a

> girl. Using this as a guideline I have been correct 5 out of 5

> times...but that may have been purely coincidental. The reason I ask at

> this time is that two of the women are pregnant again and clamoring for

> me to " do it again " . (these have all been friends and not

> patients!)... Now it has become a matter of curiosity to me, and I got

> to wondering if any in this esteemed group has ever heard of such a

> thing or if there is anything written on the subject.

> I do remember that the pulse is supposed to become more slippery with

> pregnancy, due to the increased blood and fluids. In the 5 cases there

> were 4 women with very wiry pulses who had boys, and one who had a

> decidedly slippery pulse and had a girl.

> What do you think? I am curious to know what information is floating

> around out there if any.

>

> R. Cooper

[Guest guest]

Hi Juan,

 

Interesting that in the system you describe the left pulse is

designated Yang and the right Yin. I've never seen this before. Of

course, in Chinese there's the saying, " nan zuo, nu you " , or " man

left, woman right " , but all my teachers have said this is not

considered relevant to the pulse, the left pulse belonging to Yin,

blood, etc, and the right pulse belonging to Yang, qi, etc.

 

Regarding when you can begin to feel the " pregnancy pulse " , I've also

heard it's difficult to be accurate regarding gender in the first

trimester, although it's generally possible to feel the pregnancy in

the pulse sooner than that.

 

Best,

 

Greg

 

Chinese Medicine , aramis1971 wrote:

>

> Yes, there is some material about it, the one i have is in Spanish

though, and

> it says that if the pregnant woman has a yang pulse, the baby will

be boy,

> ie. superficial, stronger in cun, stronger in the left hand. Of

course these

> are 3 different systems, so you can check by checking in which hand

the pulse

> is stronger and in which position and (if you wish) is it

superficial or

> deep... But the author warns that the pregnancy should be past the

first

> trimester otherwise it is impossible.

> Following this simple system i have never been wrong,

>

> Hope it helps

>

> Juan

>

>

> El Monday 29 October 2007 00:22:47 rcooper1us escribió:

> > I do not mean for this to sound trivial,but, I seem to remember

from my

> > acupuncture student days that rumor had it that pulse quality could

> > predict the gender of a baby . All I seem to remember is that a tight

> > or wiry pulse indicated a boy, whereas a slippery pulse predicted a

> > girl. Using this as a guideline I have been correct 5 out of 5

> > times...but that may have been purely coincidental. The reason I

ask at

> > this time is that two of the women are pregnant again and

clamoring for

> > me to " do it again " . (these have all been friends and not

> > patients!)... Now it has become a matter of curiosity to me, and I got

> > to wondering if any in this esteemed group has ever heard of such a

> > thing or if there is anything written on the subject.

> > I do remember that the pulse is supposed to become more slippery with

> > pregnancy, due to the increased blood and fluids. In the 5 cases there

> > were 4 women with very wiry pulses who had boys, and one who had a

> > decidedly slippery pulse and had a girl.

> > What do you think? I am curious to know what information is floating

> > around out there if any.

> >

> > R. Cooper

>

[Guest guest]

all i know is that one of my instructors accurately predicted that my

child would be a girl ... i think he used a variety of different

methods, and he mentioned that he had to see the father in order to

know for sure.

[Guest guest]

hi all,

 

thats one of the things i love so much about chinese medicine,that there are

many ways

that lead to the same and accurate diagnosis, in this case gender prediction. so

far i have

been 100% right with my predicitions, but that may have just been luck..

i learned and understand the left pulse as yin and the right pulse as yang;

deep or

superficial pulse can be a sign, or kidney yin or -yang - pulse; i found that

the liver pulse

is connected to boys and the spleen pulse to girls. and i am sure there are

many more

ways to detect what its going to be..

 

rebekka

 

Chinese Medicine , " shamanist1 "

<shamanist1

wrote:

>

> all i know is that one of my instructors accurately predicted that my

> child would be a girl ... i think he used a variety of different

> methods, and he mentioned that he had to see the father in order to

> know for sure.

>

[Guest guest]

" Greg A. Livingston " <drlivingston wrote:

>

As the left pulse belongs to Yin and the right to

> Yang, if the left if more slippery and " jumpy " (dong4 or cu4 in

Chinese) then he says girl,

> and if the right is more slippery and jumpy then he guesses boy. He

also checks what he

> calls the Shenmen pulse, the pulse felt over Shenmen/Heart 7(?) for

these qualities. Lastly

> he checks the pulses that can be felt on the raidlal and ulnar

aspects of the middle finger

 

Thank you Greg,

This seems to be a good system. I did not know about the middle

finger pulse...I checked for it on someone yesterday...and lo and

behold, there it was. Do you know how to calculate the length of the

pregnancy by where this middle finger pulse extends to? Like

trimester being able to be ascertained according to where on the

finger the pulse is.

 

Also, I am not sure what you mean by " slippery and jumpy " --especially

the " jumpy " part. I amy be able to find a difference in the

slipperiness between the right and the left wrist, but perhaps you

could elucidat " jumpy " for me.

 

Thanks for the replies. If anyone else knows of any other pulse

system I will add it to my knowlege to date and see if my accuracy

stays high. I am recruiting pregnant women in an informal way so I

can practice.

 

R. Cooper

[Guest guest]

Hi R.C.,

 

Middle finger pulse, btwn the MCP joint and the first IP joint is the

first trimester, second trimester is btwn the 1st and 2nd IP joints,

third is past the 2nd IP joint.

 

Jumpy is " dong4 " in Chinese. Hits the fingers with a bit of strength.

Hard to describe pulses over the internet...

 

Greg

 

Chinese Medicine , " rcooper1us "

<rcooper1us wrote:

>

> " Greg A. Livingston " <drlivingston@> wrote:

> >

> As the left pulse belongs to Yin and the right to

> > Yang, if the left if more slippery and " jumpy " (dong4 or cu4 in

> Chinese) then he says girl,

> > and if the right is more slippery and jumpy then he guesses boy. He

> also checks what he

> > calls the Shenmen pulse, the pulse felt over Shenmen/Heart 7(?) for

> these qualities. Lastly

> > he checks the pulses that can be felt on the raidlal and ulnar

> aspects of the middle finger

>

> Thank you Greg,

> This seems to be a good system. I did not know about the middle

> finger pulse...I checked for it on someone yesterday...and lo and

> behold, there it was. Do you know how to calculate the length of the

> pregnancy by where this middle finger pulse extends to? Like

> trimester being able to be ascertained according to where on the

> finger the pulse is.

>

> Also, I am not sure what you mean by " slippery and jumpy " --especially

> the " jumpy " part. I amy be able to find a difference in the

> slipperiness between the right and the left wrist, but perhaps you

> could elucidat " jumpy " for me.

>

> Thanks for the replies. If anyone else knows of any other pulse

> system I will add it to my knowlege to date and see if my accuracy

> stays high. I am recruiting pregnant women in an informal way so I

> can practice.

>

> R. Cooper

>