Guest guest Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Hi Patricia & All, Patricia Jordan wrote: > I am collaborating with Professor, Dr. Huisheng Xie (Chi Institute). I > would like to have each of you think of anything that should be > considered for the chapter of TCVM in cancer. If you know of any > ongoing studies or recent results about the use of TCM in cancer, > please forward me the website or reference. See http://tinyurl.com/3ycx95 for " Google Scholar " hits on cancer-research AND " traditional chinese medicine " See http://tinyurl.com/2ohd7v for Google hits on cancer-research AND " traditional chinese medicine " More focused search profiles should yield more focused hits. See http://tinyurl.com/369pb8 for PubMed Medline hits on (( " Neoplasms " [Mesh] OR " Neoplasms, Second Primary " [Mesh])) AND (( " Drugs, Chinese Herbal " [Mesh] OR " Medicine, Chinese Traditional " [Mesh] OR " Medicine, Chinese Traditional " [Mesh] OR " Acupuncture Therapy " [Mesh] OR " Acupuncture " [Mesh] OR " Acupuncture, Ear " [Mesh] OR " Acupuncture Points " [Mesh] OR " Medicine, Oriental Traditional " [Mesh] OR " Medicine, Chinese Traditional " [Mesh] OR " Medicine, Kampo " [Mesh])) Most published research in cancer Tx is in lab animals and humans, or in vitro. There is very little published research on TCVM and cancer! Therefore, It is wise to consider TCM research in humans/lab animals and not to limit yourselves to TCVM research. Though not strictly TCM, the most recent cancer research by Are Thoresen ( http://www.sanare.no ) is extremely exciting, IMO. Are's team claims to have identified, synthesised and patented a cocktail of TWELVE peptides in the blood of a human cancer patient who responded o his acupuncture treatment. The Patent Document is at http://tinyurl.com/3bu34b In Phase 1 trials (in vitro - using cultured cancer cells and normal cells ), a cocktail of synthetic peptides that mimicked the ratio in the responder was HIGHLY successful (better than the breast-cancer chemotherapeutic drug, Tamoxifen) in causing cancer cells to self-destruct with no damage to healthy cells. Phase 2 (animal experiments) using the synthetic peptides will start soon. If you have specific questions for Are, email him at " Are Thoresen " <arethore phone him at +47 9132 7347 If Are is correct, and if his team can find the correct ratio of the peptides relevant to other specific cancers, this could be a MASSIVE (and potential Nobel-Prize winning) breakthrough in cancer therapy. Peptides are cheap to synthesise and if specific peptide cocktails can activate apotosis of neoplastic cells (and leave healthy cells untouched), Are's concept may offer a unique and inexpensive Tx for cancer. > ... Do you know of any good reads on the thoughts of the Chinese for > use of TCM in cancer? Huisheng's Chinese-literate collaborators can search the CHINESE WWW (especially " Google Scholar " ). For example, see: http://tinyurl.com/2jh4e6 They can enter other Hanzi terms of interest and see what is published in Chinese. For example, http://tinyurl.com/3bl2wp shows " Google Scholar " hits for the Hanzi terms for " prostate cancer " " traditional chinese medicine " research and Google hits for the same profile are at http://tinyurl.com/2ucjzd > ... How i look at TCM being useful to treat cancer is perhaps > different ... I believe the immunomodulation of the herbs, as well as > the stasis breaking and nutrition of the herbs are the major points of > interest. IMO, the root defects that allow cancer cells to thrive are: (a) failure of the cellular APOTOTIC (self-destruct) system (central to Are Thoresen's peptide theory of cancer) and (b) failure of the IMMUNE SYSTEM to recognise cancer cells as " foreign " . Effective Tx of cancer must address the Root defects: (a) RESET (restore CONTROL to) the APOTOTIC system (Are's concept of using the Ko Cycle in cancer) and (b) BOOST IMMUNE VIGILANCE so that the immune system can recognise cancer cells as " foreign " and immobilise or destroy them. Supplementary Tx (acting to Quicken Blood, Scatter Stasis, Clear Heat+Resolve Toxin, etc) caan be seen as Branch Tx. > Energetically, cancer is a result of more than one factor, however, > can the five element theory not be used to treat the cancer no matter > from where it originates? Only if it is successful in treating the root > of the disharmony. Sincerely, Patricia Jordan As Are pioneered the use of the Ko Cycle in cancer Tx, that is a question for him. However, I understand from talking to Are that for success via the Ko Cycle, one MUST be CERTAIN as to which Channel-Organ System was the primary one to be attacked. For example in a primary breast cancer (ST Channel, EARTH), one would use a LV (WOOD) point to exert Control on Earth. Do any of you know HERBAL examples, i.e. herbs that can be used to activate a KO-Response in a particular organ or Channel? Finally, my understanding is that there is no LASTING cure for cancer at this time. We all must die sometime. IMO, the best that complementary therapy (including TCM) can do [even when it aims to Tx the Root] is to alleviate the S & Ss associated with the cancer or caused by surgery / chemo- or radio- therapy, improve quality of life and increase survival time. The increased survival time, however, often is only a few months . For example, see: www.cam-cancer.org/index.asp?o=2592 That article says that a three-arm randomised trial compared the herbal remedy Shenqi Yiai Ye with cytokine (interleukin-II and gamma-interferon) or chemotherapy in 82 patients with liver cancer and pancreas cancer, who were in their advanced stage and not suitable for surgery 5 . The trial showed beneficial effects for herbs (28 cases) and cytokine (24 cases) therapy on survival and an improvement in symptoms compared to chemotherapy (30 cases) (average survival time 11.3 months for herbal therapy, 9.5 months for cytokine therapy, and 8.5 months for chemotherapy, respectively). [i.e. herbal Tx only increased survival time by 3 months over chemotherapy alone]. Are claims to have many cancer patients alive for years after he began Tx. If his peptide treatment (based on a unique cocktail of peptides identified in responders to his AP Tx) can activate cancer-cell apotosis and the body's defence system in vivo, it may be the key to much longer survival times after cancer Tx. I wish him every success in his project! Best regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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