Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Hello group! I am Jen. I just recently started experimenting with mixing essential oils. And just recently learned about carrier oils. I have used tea tree oil for a number of years, for almost anything, straight from the bottle. But my question is not about that. Its about shea nut oil which is a form of shea butter. I have been considering mixing it with jojoba oil and rose hip seed oil. But I am wondering if it would be better to just use shea butter instead of putting it in a mixture as shea nut oil? Does anyone have experience with either of these and as a topical skin product? Which is better and why? If I choose to use the butter, should I put it on before my home made essential oil mixture or after the mixture is already on my face? Thanx Jen w/ Turkey Toby tt and Baloo the bear _______________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page – FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Hey Jen, >I am Jen. I just recently started experimenting with mixing essential oils. >And just recently learned about carrier oils. I have used tea tree oil for >a >number of years, for almost anything, straight from the bottle. But my >question is not about that. Its about shea nut oil which is a form of shea >butter. I have been considering mixing it with jojoba oil and rose hip seed >oil. But I am wondering if it would be better to just use shea butter >instead of putting it in a mixture as shea nut oil? > >Does anyone have experience with either of these and as a topical skin >product? >Which is better and why? >If I choose to use the butter, should I put it on before my home made >essential oil mixture or after the mixture is already on my face? >Thanx Shea oil is basically the byproduct of the fractionation of shea butter from the chocolate industry. It is kinda neat to have the option of using it, but if you are going to blend jojoba and rose hip seed oil with eo's for a facial treatment, then I would use pure lab tested unrefined shea butter rather than that oil. For one thing, with the oil, you don't get all the benefits of the unsaponifiables in the butte itself. Oh and just make a butter and oil blend, makes a nice soft face cream that way. Have fun with it! Margaret www.naturalindulgences.com _______________ Looking to buy a house? Get informed with the Home Buying Guide from MSN House & Home. http://coldwellbanker.msn.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 , " Margaret Helm-Duell " <naturalindulgences@h...> wrote: > Hey Jen, > but if you are going to blend jojoba and rose hip seed oil with eo's for a > facial treatment, then I would use pure lab tested unrefined shea butter > rather than that oil. For one thing, with the oil, you don't get all the > benefits of the unsaponifiables in the butte itself. Oh and just make a > butter and oil blend, makes a nice soft face cream that way. > I tried to make a cream once. Mixed some oils and some shea butter, heated them to melt and then mixed in some heated distilled water and aloe gel. Never got it to quit separating when it cooled, and the butter part got much too hard. Any suggestions for quantities to use, or other suggestions for making a CREAM, not a mess? I would really like to make something that turns out useable. And to make a lotion, would I just increase the water portion to thin it out? Thanks in advance for ANY/ALL help!! Rusty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 In a message dated 6/3/2004 12:27:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kujayhawkbb writes: > I tried to make a cream once. Mixed some oils and some shea butter, > heated them to melt and then mixed in some heated distilled water and > aloe gel. Never got it to quit separating when it cooled, and the > butter part got much too hard. Any suggestions for quantities to use, > or other suggestions for making a CREAM, not a mess? I would really > like to make something that turns out useable. And to make > a lotion, > would I just increase the water portion to thin it out? You need an emulsifier like Ewax to bind the water to the butters and oils together. Hugs, Diana in VA www.honeybearcreek.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Hi Rusty, You can make a nice cream with shea butter if you melt it, add the oils you want in it (f'rinstance, rosehip is nice, so is emu, jojoba, Vitamin E, Evening Primrose, and the list of course goes on), then alternate whipping and chilling until it's the consistency of frosting. This works great head to toe and I use a lot my own self. If you want a lotion, you need to add an emulsion system to make the oils and water/milk/aloe juice behave themselves and combine and stay that way--this is a very long description so holler if you really want to hear it. I make lotions from scratch a lot so I'm no expert but I'm some help. HTH, Serra Rusty wrote: > > > I tried to make a cream once. Mixed some oils and some shea butter, > heated them to melt and then mixed in some heated distilled water and > aloe gel. Never got it to quit separating when it cooled, and the > butter part got much too hard. Any suggestions for quantities to use, > or other suggestions for making a CREAM, not a mess? I would really > like to make something that turns out useable. And to make a lotion, > would I just increase the water portion to thin it out? > > Thanks in advance for ANY/ALL help!! > > Rusty > -- Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like nobody's watching. Sing like nobody's listening. Live like it's Heaven on Earth. http://www.angelicprovidence.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 I'M HOLLERING, SERRA! :-D Tracy *Some people only dream of angels; we held one in our arms.* Remembering Jacob March 8 - 9, 1996 Our Angel: http://sids-network.org/fp/jacob.htm - Serra Thursday, June 03, 2004 11:17 AM Re: Re: shea nut oil vs shea butter? Hi Rusty, You can make a nice cream with shea butter if you melt it, add the oils you want in it (f'rinstance, rosehip is nice, so is emu, jojoba, Vitamin E, Evening Primrose, and the list of course goes on), then alternate whipping and chilling until it's the consistency of frosting. This works great head to toe and I use a lot my own self. If you want a lotion, you need to add an emulsion system to make the oils and water/milk/aloe juice behave themselves and combine and stay that way--this is a very long description so holler if you really want to hear it. I make lotions from scratch a lot so I'm no expert but I'm some help. HTH, Serra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 > You need an emulsifier like Ewax to bind the water to the butters and oils together. > > Hugs, > Diana in VA > www.honeybearcreek.com Yes, you're right, and I should have been more clear on that point. I did use emulsifiers, but apparently not the right ones or the right amounts (I ended up with what can only be described as " yuck " ). I used acacia gum and stearic acid, and it held together for a bit, but eventually separated and turned into a mess. So, I reheated it all, added more emulsifiers and tried again... better, but still not " right " . So, I tried again, and even added some lecithin powder... but the amounts made it not close to the " recipe " I was working from. WAY too much emulsifier for the other ingredients. The best description for the end " product " can only be called a complete failure. I think I need to be led by the hand thru the process in order to learn why/what works and what doesn't.... Thanks, Rusty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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