Guest guest Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 Dear Friends, A patient of mine recently raved about a Japanese medicine fermented food purported to have powerful blood invigorating properties, particularly used to dissolve blood clots without thinning the blood. Anything too good to be true invariably is, and so I am skeptical. Does anyone know anything about this substance: Nattou Kinase? Thanks, Yehuda Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check outnew cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 Dear Yehuda, Take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natto http://japanesefood.about.com/od/bean/a/natto.htm Traditionally the Japanese have considered all sticky foods blood cleansing (removing toxic heat from Blood) - Natto is such a food. It is a traditional Japanese food made from fermented soybeans often eaten (not by the younger urban population anymore though) with breakfast. Hope this helps, Best regards, Thomas Sorensen 2007/4/30, : > > Dear Friends, > > A patient of mine recently raved about a Japanese medicine fermented food > purported to have powerful blood invigorating properties, particularly used > to dissolve blood clots without thinning the blood. Anything too good to be > true invariably is, and so I am skeptical. Does anyone know anything about > this substance: Nattou Kinase? > > Thanks, > > Yehuda > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2007 Report Share Posted May 3, 2007 Nattokinase is the active ingredient in a German product called Wobenzym. It has beeb clinically tested in Europe and is effective for fighting inflamation after injury, however, it also has a benefit for many aging symtoms, such as high cholesterol. Angela Pfaffenberger - Thomas Sørensen Chinese Medicine Monday, April 30, 2007 2:28 AM Re: Nattou Kinase Dear Yehuda, Take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natto http://japanesefood.about.com/od/bean/a/natto.htm Traditionally the Japanese have considered all sticky foods blood cleansing (removing toxic heat from Blood) - Natto is such a food. It is a traditional Japanese food made from fermented soybeans often eaten (not by the younger urban population anymore though) with breakfast. Hope this helps, Best regards, Thomas Sorensen 2007/4/30, : > > Dear Friends, > > A patient of mine recently raved about a Japanese medicine fermented food > purported to have powerful blood invigorating properties, particularly used > to dissolve blood clots without thinning the blood. Anything too good to be > true invariably is, and so I am skeptical. Does anyone know anything about > this substance: Nattou Kinase? > > Thanks, > > Yehuda > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 I do not think Wobenzym contain natokinase - Angela Pfaffenberger, PH.D. Chinese Medicine Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:31 AM Re: Nattou Kinase Nattokinase is the active ingredient in a German product called Wobenzym. It has beeb clinically tested in Europe and is effective for fighting inflamation after injury, however, it also has a benefit for many aging symtoms, such as high cholesterol. Angela Pfaffenberger - Thomas Sørensen Chinese Medicine Monday, April 30, 2007 2:28 AM Re: Nattou Kinase Dear Yehuda, Take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natto http://japanesefood.about.com/od/bean/a/natto.htm Traditionally the Japanese have considered all sticky foods blood cleansing (removing toxic heat from Blood) - Natto is such a food. It is a traditional Japanese food made from fermented soybeans often eaten (not by the younger urban population anymore though) with breakfast. Hope this helps, Best regards, Thomas Sorensen 2007/4/30, : > > Dear Friends, > > A patient of mine recently raved about a Japanese medicine fermented food > purported to have powerful blood invigorating properties, particularly used > to dissolve blood clots without thinning the blood. Anything too good to be > true invariably is, and so I am skeptical. Does anyone know anything about > this substance: Nattou Kinase? > > Thanks, > > Yehuda > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 You are right, Alon. I beleive the active ingredient in Wobezym is serrapeptase as it is in the similar Vitalzym. However Vitalzym does have a produce called Nattovita whose main ingredient is nattokinase-- primarily used for circulation issues and lipid metabolism...ie blood cleansing and vitalizing. Diane Fall Down Seven Times, Get up Eight (Chinese Proverb) Diane M. Notarianni Ph.D. L.Ac., Dipl. Ac Cultural Medical Anthropologist Nationally Certified Practitioner of Asian Medicine 520.975.9959 Diane  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 In a message dated 5/4/2007 1:03:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, angela.pf writes: what do you think Wobenzym consists of? Angela Pf _angela.pf_ (angela.pf) Wobenzym N Supplement Facts Serving Size 3 Tablets Servings Per Container 266 Amount Per Serving %DV Calories 2.5 Total Carbohydrates <1.0 g <1%** Sugars <1.0 g <1%** Protein <1.0 g <1%** Pancreatin*** 56,000 USP-units protease (pancreas) Sus scrofa 300 mg * Papain*** 492 FIP-unit♦ Carica papaya 180 mg * Bromelain*** 675 FIP-unit♦ Ananus comosus 135 mg * Trypsin*** 2,160 FIP-unit♦ (pancreas) Sus scrofa 72 mg * Chymotrypsin*** 900 FIP-unit♦ (pancreas) Bos taurus 3 mg * Rutosid*** • 3H2O (Rutin) Sophora japonica 150 mg * * Daily Value not established ** Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet. *** From dried purified aqueous extracts ♦ FIP-unit is the measurement of enzyme activity according to the test methods of the Federation Internationale Pharmaceutique. Wobenzym Fibrozym High-Potency Protease S Serrapeptase Supplement Facts Supplement Facts Serving Size: 2 tablets Servings Per Container: 50 Amount Per Serving % Daily Value Papain N.F (2,000 USP Units/mg) 210 mg * Bromelain (2,400 GDU/gm) 100 mg * Serrapeptase (Protease S) (2,000,000 CDU/gm) 2000 mcg * Rutin (Vitamin P complex 98%) 100 mg * Horse Chestnut Seed Extract (Standardized to 20% Aescin) 4 mg * * Daily Value not established. Other Ingredients Plant Fiber, Cellulose, Stearic Acid, Silica, Methylacrylic Copolymer Type A, Magnesium Silicate, Magnesium Stearate and pH resistant Enteric Coating. Wobenzym, Nattokinase 1500 Fibrin Units Supplement Facts Supplement Facts Serving Size: 2 tablets Servings per container: 60 Amount per serving % Daily Value Nattokinase providing 1,500 FU per serving (20,000 FU/gm) 75 mg * Rutin Bioflavonoid Complex (Vitamin P) 100 mg * ** Daily Value not established. Other Ingredients Plant Fiber, Modified cellulose gum, colloidal silica, vegetable magnesium stearate, vegetable stearic acid, Titanium Dioxide, FD & C yellow #5 and pH-resistant Enteric Coating. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 what do you think Wobenzym consists of? Angela Pf angela.pf - Alon Marcus Chinese Medicine Thursday, May 03, 2007 7:13 PM Re: Nattou Kinase I do not think Wobenzym contain natokinase - Angela Pfaffenberger, PH.D. Chinese Medicine Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:31 AM Re: Nattou Kinase Nattokinase is the active ingredient in a German product called Wobenzym. It has beeb clinically tested in Europe and is effective for fighting inflamation after injury, however, it also has a benefit for many aging symtoms, such as high cholesterol. Angela Pfaffenberger - Thomas Sørensen Chinese Medicine Monday, April 30, 2007 2:28 AM Re: Nattou Kinase Dear Yehuda, Take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natto http://japanesefood.about.com/od/bean/a/natto.htm Traditionally the Japanese have considered all sticky foods blood cleansing (removing toxic heat from Blood) - Natto is such a food. It is a traditional Japanese food made from fermented soybeans often eaten (not by the younger urban population anymore though) with breakfast. Hope this helps, Best regards, Thomas Sorensen 2007/4/30, : > > Dear Friends, > > A patient of mine recently raved about a Japanese medicine fermented food > purported to have powerful blood invigorating properties, particularly used > to dissolve blood clots without thinning the blood. Anything too good to be > true invariably is, and so I am skeptical. Does anyone know anything about > this substance: Nattou Kinase? > > Thanks, > > Yehuda > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 according to the ads it has Each Capsule Contains : Pancreatin* – 56,000 USP units protease (pancreas) Sus scrofa 300 mg Papain* – 492 FIP-unit** Carica papaya 180 mg Bromelain* - 675 FIP-unit** Ananus comosus 135 mg Trypsin* – 2160 FIP-unit** (pancreas) Sus scrofa 72 mg Chymotrypsin* – 900 FIP-unit** (pancreas) Bos Taurus 3 mg Bob www.acuherbals.com " Angela Pfaffenberger, PH.D. " <angela.pf wrote: what do you think Wobenzym consists of? Angela Pf angela.pf - Alon Marcus Chinese Medicine Thursday, May 03, 2007 7:13 PM Re: Nattou Kinase I do not think Wobenzym contain natokinase - Angela Pfaffenberger, PH.D. Chinese Medicine Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:31 AM Re: Nattou Kinase Nattokinase is the active ingredient in a German product called Wobenzym. It has beeb clinically tested in Europe and is effective for fighting inflamation after injury, however, it also has a benefit for many aging symtoms, such as high cholesterol. Angela Pfaffenberger - Thomas Sørensen Chinese Medicine Monday, April 30, 2007 2:28 AM Re: Nattou Kinase Dear Yehuda, Take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natto http://japanesefood.about.com/od/bean/a/natto.htm Traditionally the Japanese have considered all sticky foods blood cleansing (removing toxic heat from Blood) - Natto is such a food. It is a traditional Japanese food made from fermented soybeans often eaten (not by the younger urban population anymore though) with breakfast. Hope this helps, Best regards, Thomas Sorensen 2007/4/30, : > > Dear Friends, > > A patient of mine recently raved about a Japanese medicine fermented food > purported to have powerful blood invigorating properties, particularly used > to dissolve blood clots without thinning the blood. Anything too good to be > true invariably is, and so I am skeptical. Does anyone know anything about > this substance: Nattou Kinase? > > Thanks, > > Yehuda > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Just make your own. www.gaia21.net/natto Chinese Medicine , " Bob Linde,AP, Herbalist " <boblindeherbalist wrote: > > according to the ads it has Each Capsule Contains : > Pancreatin* – 56,000 USP units protease (pancreas) Sus scrofa 300 mg > Papain* – 492 FIP-unit** Carica papaya 180 mg > Bromelain* - 675 FIP-unit** Ananus comosus 135 mg > Trypsin* – 2160 FIP-unit** (pancreas) Sus scrofa 72 mg > Chymotrypsin* – 900 FIP-unit** (pancreas) Bos Taurus 3 mg > > Bob > www.acuherbals.com > > " Angela Pfaffenberger, PH.D. " <angela.pf wrote: > what do you think Wobenzym consists of? > Angela Pf > angela.pf > > - > Alon Marcus > Chinese Medicine > Thursday, May 03, 2007 7:13 PM > Re: Nattou Kinase > > I do not think Wobenzym contain natokinase > > > > > > > > > - > Angela Pfaffenberger, PH.D. > Chinese Medicine > Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:31 AM > Re: Nattou Kinase > > Nattokinase is the active ingredient in a German product called Wobenzym. It has beeb clinically tested in Europe and is effective for fighting inflamation after injury, however, it also has a benefit for many aging symtoms, such as high cholesterol. > > Angela Pfaffenberger > > - > Thomas Sørensen > Chinese Medicine > Monday, April 30, 2007 2:28 AM > Re: Nattou Kinase > > Dear Yehuda, > > Take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natto > http://japanesefood.about.com/od/bean/a/natto.htm > > Traditionally the Japanese have considered all sticky foods blood cleansing > (removing toxic heat from Blood) - Natto is such a food. It is a traditional > Japanese food made from fermented soybeans often eaten (not by the younger > urban population anymore though) with breakfast. > > Hope this helps, > > Best regards, > > Thomas Sorensen > > 2007/4/30, : > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > A patient of mine recently raved about a Japanese medicine fermented food > > purported to have powerful blood invigorating properties, particularly used > > to dissolve blood clots without thinning the blood. Anything too good to be > > true invariably is, and so I am skeptical. Does anyone know anything about > > this substance: Nattou Kinase? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Yehuda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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