Guest guest Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 I am aware that some people are able to be vegetarian and it works for them. IMHO, it doesn't seem to work for many people for the very reason described in the post below. Quite simply, the over all carb load is far to high in most vegetarians I have seen. This tends to send blood sugar up and down throughout the day with a typical mid to late afternoon crash and a desire for some sugar or other stimulant. I also find HCL production to be far below what meat eaters produce and the intestinal track is often balanced in favor of yeast rather than healthy probiotics. As many vegetarians point out, some world class athletes are vegetarians and they do quite well. Part of the reason they do well on a vegetarian diet is they are able to burn the carbs as they train and perform. For most vegetarians, the body is just incapable of processing the volume of carbs they consume in a typical day. Over time most develop hypoglycemia, insulin resistance, bowel problems, all of which can lead to hypothyroid, and adrenal issues. From what I have seen, it is a rare individual that has the persistence and understanding of how to balance a vegetarian diet in a way that is actually pro health. I understand that it can be done. My 2 cents, Chris In a message dated 3/23/2007 10:12:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, johnkokko writes: However, as a lacto-vegetarian I could not endure as long and often would crash in the late afternoon. That would make me want to eat chocolate and sweets. I'm wondering if my body wanted to balance the alkalinity with some acids. Have you noticed how Whole Foods has a huge double organic chocolate and organic sugary stuff section. In fact I noticed that most of my friends who were vegetarian, needed their sweet fix more than meat eaters. That could also be because their SP qi was weaker, eating a lot of raw foods and needed a bit of sweet flavor in their diets. ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Hi Attilio, As Z'ev mentioned, neither he nor I are actually vegetarians. Personally, I do not eat red meat of any kind, nor dairy of any kind. My daily diet consists of organic eggs, fish, grains (mostly white organic basmati rice), avocado and Humous, and lots of cooked vegetables. I also have a whole grain spelt bagel each morning, with almond butter. Once a week, on the Sabbath, I eat free range chicken. I don't eat any soy, as it makes me feel bad. I am very sensitive to what I eat, and consciously avoid those foods that are harmful for me, individually. As a mentioned, I use the Coca pulse test, if I have any suspicion. By eating what is good for me, getting adequate sleep, walking at least a half hour twice a day whenever possible, doing work that is incredibly fulfilling, being very much in love and being loved by my significant other, not letting things bother me, and using herbs whenever I am feeling like I am getting out of balance, I feel like a young colt, even though I'm in my mid fifties. I think that feeling in balance comes from living in balance and all of these elements need to be addressed. Wishing you vibrant health--and a good Shabbos! Yehuda Attilio D'Alberto <attiliodalberto wrote: Zev and Yehuda, I've been a vegetarian for some 16 years. Have you and other vegetarians noticed a distinctive lack of Yang Qi in your bodies? I'm convinced that my Yang Qi is weaker, almost passive, when compared to most meat eaters. I'm sure this is due to a lack of eating meat, which is predominately Yang in nature and a good source of protein. I try and get protein from alternative sources, but it's not easy. Have other vegetarians noticed the same thing? How do you deal with it? Kind regards, Attilio D'Alberto Doctor of (Beijing, China) BSc (Hons) TCM MBAcC MATCM Editor Times +44 (0) 1189 612512 enquiries <http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/> www.chinesemedicinetimes.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 hi everybody and specially attilio, i too am a vegetarian for nearly 15 years now and i can relate to your feelings about lack of yang-qi. i guess it is due to eating more " cold " food in general as a vegetarian. that is if you are not very carefully choosing and preparing your food. it certainly takes more effort to build up your yang this way, but with the right ingredients,herbs,cooking-methods and a general qi- and yang-qi creating lifestyle you can get by very well. love, rebekka Chinese Medicine , yehuda frischman < wrote: > > Hi Attilio, > > As Z'ev mentioned, neither he nor I are actually vegetarians. Personally, I do not eat red meat of any kind, nor dairy of any kind. My daily diet consists of organic eggs, fish, grains (mostly white organic basmati rice), avocado and Humous, and lots of cooked vegetables. I also have a whole grain spelt bagel each morning, with almond butter. Once a week, on the Sabbath, I eat free range chicken. I don't eat any soy, as it makes me feel bad. > > I am very sensitive to what I eat, and consciously avoid those foods that are harmful for me, individually. As a mentioned, I use the Coca pulse test, if I have any suspicion. By eating what is good for me, getting adequate sleep, walking at least a half hour twice a day whenever possible, doing work that is incredibly fulfilling, being very much in love and being loved by my significant other, not letting things bother me, and using herbs whenever I am feeling like I am getting out of balance, I feel like a young colt, even though I'm in my mid fifties. > > I think that feeling in balance comes from living in balance and all of these elements need to be addressed. > > Wishing you vibrant health--and a good Shabbos! > > > Yehuda > > Attilio D'Alberto <attiliodalberto wrote: > Zev and Yehuda, > > I've been a vegetarian for some 16 years. > > Have you and other vegetarians noticed a distinctive lack of Yang Qi in your > bodies? > > I'm convinced that my Yang Qi is weaker, almost passive, when compared to > most meat eaters. I'm sure this is due to a lack of eating meat, which is > predominately Yang in nature and a good source of protein. I try and get > protein from alternative sources, but it's not easy. > > Have other vegetarians noticed the same thing? How do you deal with it? > > Kind regards, > > Attilio D'Alberto > Doctor of (Beijing, China) > BSc (Hons) TCM MBAcC MATCM > Editor > Times > +44 (0) 1189 612512 > enquiries > <http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/> www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Mainly in clinic, the vegetarians seem to be more blood def. I'm not sure about yang def. plants are considered yang in the sense that they are light and quick qi. Animals are more yin, in the sense that they are heavier and slower and more solid qi. I guess it depends on the way that you look at it. When I was a lacto-vegetarian (7 years w/ eggs and dairy only), I felt lighter, faster and clearer emotionally. However, I had pride that I was not eating meat and that isolated me from some people. In Tibetan philosophy, there are cold hells as well as hot ones. In the cold ones, you get proud people. In the hot ones, you get angry people. This is kind of how I saw vegetarians (colder- more proud) and meat-eaters (hotter-more angry). However, as a lacto-vegetarian I could not endure as long and often would crash in the late afternoon. That would make me want to eat chocolate and sweets. I'm wondering if my body wanted to balance the alkalinity with some acids. Have you noticed how Whole Foods has a huge double organic chocolate and organic sugary stuff section. In fact I noticed that most of my friends who were vegetarian, needed their sweet fix more than meat eaters. That could also be because their SP qi was weaker, eating a lot of raw foods and needed a bit of sweet flavor in their diets. Also, there's the whole notion of blood types and fast and slow metabolizers and doshas and element types. Since I'm predominately pitta, a mainly vegetarian diet is better to keep me in balance. Also, I'm a blood type A, which means more vegetables and less meat. If I was O type, then maybe more meat, especially beef to fuel a busy hunter lifestyle. Now I eat anything I want and am happy with that. Trying to eat organic and in season. Just need to exercise more and get more off-time. Like to hear what you successful vegetarians and meat-eaters do to balance your bodies and souls. k. On 3/23/07, wrote: > > Hi Attilio, > > As Z'ev mentioned, neither he nor I are actually vegetarians. Personally, > I do not eat red meat of any kind, nor dairy of any kind. My daily diet > consists of organic eggs, fish, grains (mostly white organic basmati rice), > avocado and Humous, and lots of cooked vegetables. I also have a whole grain > spelt bagel each morning, with almond butter. Once a week, on the Sabbath, I > eat free range chicken. I don't eat any soy, as it makes me feel bad. > > I am very sensitive to what I eat, and consciously avoid those foods that > are harmful for me, individually. As a mentioned, I use the Coca pulse test, > if I have any suspicion. By eating what is good for me, getting adequate > sleep, walking at least a half hour twice a day whenever possible, doing > work that is incredibly fulfilling, being very much in love and being loved > by my significant other, not letting things bother me, and using herbs > whenever I am feeling like I am getting out of balance, I feel like a young > colt, even though I'm in my mid fifties. > > I think that feeling in balance comes from living in balance and all of > these elements need to be addressed. > > Wishing you vibrant health--and a good Shabbos! > > > Yehuda > > Attilio D'Alberto <attiliodalberto<attiliodalberto%40.co.uk>> > wrote: > Zev and Yehuda, > > I've been a vegetarian for some 16 years. > > Have you and other vegetarians noticed a distinctive lack of Yang Qi in > your > bodies? > > I'm convinced that my Yang Qi is weaker, almost passive, when compared to > most meat eaters. I'm sure this is due to a lack of eating meat, which is > predominately Yang in nature and a good source of protein. I try and get > protein from alternative sources, but it's not easy. > > Have other vegetarians noticed the same thing? How do you deal with it? > > Kind regards, > > Attilio D'Alberto > Doctor of (Beijing, China) > BSc (Hons) TCM MBAcC MATCM > Editor > Times > +44 (0) 1189 612512 > enquiries <enquiries%40chinesemedicinetimes.com> > <http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/> www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Hi John, Yes, plants are Yang in nature, but meat is muscle, which relates to the Spleen, Spleen Yang and the source of Qi and Blood. I would say the opposite, in that animals are more Yang and plants are more Yin. Animals are often mammals, warm blooded and therefore Yang. Plants are not warm blooded, they need the sun to gain their warmth and are therefore more Yin. I have to admit, when I first started being a vegetarian I was proud of what I was doing. Now, I just do it because I'm comfortable with it. I'm not going to go into the religious/spiritual/philosophical aspects of why I'm a vegetarian, but I'm not necessarily 'proud' anymore. Attilio www.chinesemedicinetimes.com Chinese Medicine , " " <johnkokko wrote: > > Mainly in clinic, the vegetarians seem to be more blood def. > I'm not sure about yang def. > plants are considered yang in the sense that they are light and quick qi. > Animals are more yin, in the sense that they are heavier and slower and more > solid qi. > I guess it depends on the way that you look at it. > > When I was a lacto-vegetarian (7 years w/ eggs and dairy only), I felt > lighter, faster and clearer emotionally. > However, I had pride that I was not eating meat and that isolated me from > some people. > In Tibetan philosophy, there are cold hells as well as hot ones. > In the cold ones, you get proud people. > In the hot ones, you get angry people. > This is kind of how I saw vegetarians (colder- more proud) > and meat-eaters (hotter-more angry). > > However, as a lacto-vegetarian I could not endure as long and often would > crash in the late afternoon. > That would make me want to eat chocolate and sweets. > I'm wondering if my body wanted to balance the alkalinity with some acids. > Have you noticed how Whole Foods has a huge double organic chocolate and > organic sugary stuff section. > In fact I noticed that most of my friends who were vegetarian, > needed their sweet fix more than meat eaters. > That could also be because their SP qi was weaker, eating a lot of raw foods > and needed a bit of sweet flavor in their diets. > > Also, there's the whole notion of blood types and fast and slow metabolizers > and doshas and element types. > Since I'm predominately pitta, a mainly vegetarian diet is better to keep me > in balance. > Also, I'm a blood type A, which means more vegetables and less meat. > If I was O type, then maybe more meat, especially beef to fuel a busy hunter > lifestyle. > > Now I eat anything I want and am happy with that. > Trying to eat organic and in season. > Just need to exercise more and get more off-time. > Like to hear what you successful vegetarians and meat-eaters do to balance > your bodies and souls. > k. > > > > > On 3/23/07, wrote: > > > > Hi Attilio, > > > > As Z'ev mentioned, neither he nor I are actually vegetarians. Personally, > > I do not eat red meat of any kind, nor dairy of any kind. My daily diet > > consists of organic eggs, fish, grains (mostly white organic basmati rice), > > avocado and Humous, and lots of cooked vegetables. I also have a whole grain > > spelt bagel each morning, with almond butter. Once a week, on the Sabbath, I > > eat free range chicken. I don't eat any soy, as it makes me feel bad. > > > > I am very sensitive to what I eat, and consciously avoid those foods that > > are harmful for me, individually. As a mentioned, I use the Coca pulse test, > > if I have any suspicion. By eating what is good for me, getting adequate > > sleep, walking at least a half hour twice a day whenever possible, doing > > work that is incredibly fulfilling, being very much in love and being loved > > by my significant other, not letting things bother me, and using herbs > > whenever I am feeling like I am getting out of balance, I feel like a young > > colt, even though I'm in my mid fifties. > > > > I think that feeling in balance comes from living in balance and all of > > these elements need to be addressed. > > > > Wishing you vibrant health--and a good Shabbos! > > > > > > Yehuda > > > > Attilio D'Alberto <attiliodalberto<attiliodalberto% 40.co.uk>> > > wrote: > > Zev and Yehuda, > > > > I've been a vegetarian for some 16 years. > > > > Have you and other vegetarians noticed a distinctive lack of Yang Qi in > > your > > bodies? > > > > I'm convinced that my Yang Qi is weaker, almost passive, when compared to > > most meat eaters. I'm sure this is due to a lack of eating meat, which is > > predominately Yang in nature and a good source of protein. I try and get > > protein from alternative sources, but it's not easy. > > > > Have other vegetarians noticed the same thing? How do you deal with it? > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Attilio D'Alberto > > Doctor of (Beijing, China) > > BSc (Hons) TCM MBAcC MATCM > > Editor > > Times > > +44 (0) 1189 612512 > > enquiries <enquiries%40chinesemedicinetimes.com> > > <http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/> www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Yehuda, Actually, Zev said you were predomiantly a vegetarian but as you eat chicken, then you are not. I've already said in a previous email not to include religious comments your messages to the group. The word " Shabbos " is religious. Please do not include religious words in your emails. Attilio www.chinesemedicinetimes.com Chinese Medicine , yehuda frischman < wrote: > > Hi Attilio, > > As Z'ev mentioned, neither he nor I are actually vegetarians. Personally, I do not eat red meat of any kind, nor dairy of any kind. My daily diet consists of organic eggs, fish, grains (mostly white organic basmati rice), avocado and Humous, and lots of cooked vegetables. I also have a whole grain spelt bagel each morning, with almond butter. Once a week, on the Sabbath, I eat free range chicken. I don't eat any soy, as it makes me feel bad. > > I am very sensitive to what I eat, and consciously avoid those foods that are harmful for me, individually. As a mentioned, I use the Coca pulse test, if I have any suspicion. By eating what is good for me, getting adequate sleep, walking at least a half hour twice a day whenever possible, doing work that is incredibly fulfilling, being very much in love and being loved by my significant other, not letting things bother me, and using herbs whenever I am feeling like I am getting out of balance, I feel like a young colt, even though I'm in my mid fifties. > > I think that feeling in balance comes from living in balance and all of these elements need to be addressed. > > Wishing you vibrant health--and a good Shabbos! > > > Yehuda > > Attilio D'Alberto <attiliodalberto wrote: > Zev and Yehuda, > > I've been a vegetarian for some 16 years. > > Have you and other vegetarians noticed a distinctive lack of Yang Qi in your > bodies? > > I'm convinced that my Yang Qi is weaker, almost passive, when compared to > most meat eaters. I'm sure this is due to a lack of eating meat, which is > predominately Yang in nature and a good source of protein. I try and get > protein from alternative sources, but it's not easy. > > Have other vegetarians noticed the same thing? How do you deal with it? > > Kind regards, > > Attilio D'Alberto > Doctor of (Beijing, China) > BSc (Hons) TCM MBAcC MATCM > Editor > Times > +44 (0) 1189 612512 > enquiries > <http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/> www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Hi Rebekka, I'm not generally cold, just lacking in Yang Qi energy as in motion, strength, etc. I now take a Korean red ginseng extract each day, which i must admit is great at tonifying Yang Qi. Now that I'm at the gym each day, i also take a whey protein supplement to try and keep up with all the meat eating gym enthusiasts! Attilio www.chinesemedicinetimes.com Chinese Medicine , " knumpf1 " <knumpf1 wrote: > > hi everybody and specially attilio, > i too am a vegetarian for nearly 15 years now and i can relate to your feelings about lack > of yang-qi. i guess it is due to eating more " cold " food in general as a vegetarian. that is if > you are not very carefully choosing and preparing your food. it certainly takes more effort > to build up your yang this way, but with the right ingredients,herbs,cooking-methods and > a general qi- and yang-qi creating lifestyle you can get by very well. > > love, > rebekka > > Chinese Medicine , yehuda frischman <@> > wrote: > > > > Hi Attilio, > > > > As Z'ev mentioned, neither he nor I are actually vegetarians. Personally, I do not eat > red meat of any kind, nor dairy of any kind. My daily diet consists of organic eggs, fish, > grains (mostly white organic basmati rice), avocado and Humous, and lots of cooked > vegetables. I also have a whole grain spelt bagel each morning, with almond butter. > Once a week, on the Sabbath, I eat free range chicken. I don't eat any soy, as it makes me > feel bad. > > > > I am very sensitive to what I eat, and consciously avoid those foods that are harmful for > me, individually. As a mentioned, I use the Coca pulse test, if I have any suspicion. By > eating what is good for me, getting adequate sleep, walking at least a half hour twice a > day whenever possible, doing work that is incredibly fulfilling, being very much in love > and being loved by my significant other, not letting things bother me, and using herbs > whenever I am feeling like I am getting out of balance, I feel like a young colt, even though > I'm in my mid fifties. > > > > I think that feeling in balance comes from living in balance and all of these elements > need to be addressed. > > > > Wishing you vibrant health--and a good Shabbos! > > > > > > Yehuda > > > > Attilio D'Alberto <attiliodalberto@> wrote: > > Zev and Yehuda, > > > > I've been a vegetarian for some 16 years. > > > > Have you and other vegetarians noticed a distinctive lack of Yang Qi in your > > bodies? > > > > I'm convinced that my Yang Qi is weaker, almost passive, when compared to > > most meat eaters. I'm sure this is due to a lack of eating meat, which is > > predominately Yang in nature and a good source of protein. I try and get > > protein from alternative sources, but it's not easy. > > > > Have other vegetarians noticed the same thing? How do you deal with it? > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Attilio D'Alberto > > Doctor of (Beijing, China) > > BSc (Hons) TCM MBAcC MATCM > > Editor > > Times > > +44 (0) 1189 612512 > > enquiries@ > > <http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/> www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Attilio: I am going to ask an obvious question. Why don't you start eating meat. Start with fish (do you do that? - low mercury levels of course), then chicken, or buffalo (as a lot of animal conscious people will choose) I use to be a vegetarian too. I was a lot younger. I remember going to a vegetarian group meeting once (because none of my friends were vegans). Everyone (almost hands down, except the Herablife representative) looked not so healthy. That stuck in my mind and over the years I eventually added fish and chicken. I remember reading studies when I took nutrition that vegans can live longer, but Ithink they have to really plan out that diet well, and maintain a certain lifestyle to build the Qi. I hope I am not getting into territory here that opens too many cans of worms. I am now in the years where yin Qi and yang Qi and blood need some nourishing. I do eat red meat and find at this time in my life it makes me feel better. No I don't like how animals are treated. The only thing I can come up with is hunting them which I am not also fond of. I see a heard of deer everytime I come home. There are plenty of hunters in this area, but to me, the deer are pets. I guess my dog would be viewed differently in different parts of the world. Anne -------------- Original message ---------------------- " " <attiliodalberto > Hi Rebekka, > > I'm not generally cold, just lacking in Yang Qi energy as in motion, > strength, etc. I now take a Korean red ginseng extract each day, > which i must admit is great at tonifying Yang Qi. Now that I'm at the > gym each day, i also take a whey protein supplement to try and keep > up with all the meat eating gym enthusiasts! > > Attilio > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > > Chinese Medicine , " knumpf1 " > <knumpf1 wrote: > > > > hi everybody and specially attilio, > > i too am a vegetarian for nearly 15 years now and i can relate to > your feelings about lack > > of yang-qi. i guess it is due to eating more " cold " food in general > as a vegetarian. that is if > > you are not very carefully choosing and preparing your food. it > certainly takes more effort > > to build up your yang this way, but with the right > ingredients,herbs,cooking-methods and > > a general qi- and yang-qi creating lifestyle you can get by very > well. > > > > love, > > rebekka > > > > Chinese Medicine , yehuda > frischman <@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Attilio, > > > > > > As Z'ev mentioned, neither he nor I are actually vegetarians. > Personally, I do not eat > > red meat of any kind, nor dairy of any kind. My daily diet > consists of organic eggs, fish, > > grains (mostly white organic basmati rice), avocado and Humous, and > lots of cooked > > vegetables. I also have a whole grain spelt bagel each morning, > with almond butter. > > Once a week, on the Sabbath, I eat free range chicken. I don't eat > any soy, as it makes me > > feel bad. > > > > > > I am very sensitive to what I eat, and consciously avoid those > foods that are harmful for > > me, individually. As a mentioned, I use the Coca pulse test, if I > have any suspicion. By > > eating what is good for me, getting adequate sleep, walking at > least a half hour twice a > > day whenever possible, doing work that is incredibly fulfilling, > being very much in love > > and being loved by my significant other, not letting things bother > me, and using herbs > > whenever I am feeling like I am getting out of balance, I feel like > a young colt, even though > > I'm in my mid fifties. > > > > > > I think that feeling in balance comes from living in balance > and all of these elements > > need to be addressed. > > > > > > Wishing you vibrant health--and a good Shabbos! > > > > > > > > > Yehuda > > > > > > Attilio D'Alberto <attiliodalberto@> wrote: > > > Zev and Yehuda, > > > > > > I've been a vegetarian for some 16 years. > > > > > > Have you and other vegetarians noticed a distinctive lack of Yang > Qi in your > > > bodies? > > > > > > I'm convinced that my Yang Qi is weaker, almost passive, when > compared to > > > most meat eaters. I'm sure this is due to a lack of eating meat, > which is > > > predominately Yang in nature and a good source of protein. I try > and get > > > protein from alternative sources, but it's not easy. > > > > > > Have other vegetarians noticed the same thing? How do you deal > with it? > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > Attilio D'Alberto > > > Doctor of (Beijing, China) > > > BSc (Hons) TCM MBAcC MATCM > > > Editor > > > Times > > > +44 (0) 1189 612512 > > > enquiries@ > > > <http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/> > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Anne, I'm not going to explain why i'm a vegetarian. That falls outside the scope of this forum. I do eat some fish (not sea food), eggs and milk, so i am a pseudo-vegetarian. I will leave it at that. I don't know about vegans living longer, but there was a study a few months ago in the British press that stated vegetarians have a higher IQ. Unfortunately, that rule doesn't apply to me! Attilio www.chinesemedicinetimes.com Chinese Medicine , anne.crowley wrote: > > Attilio: > > I am going to ask an obvious question. Why don't you start eating meat. Start with fish (do you do that? - low mercury levels of course), then chicken, or buffalo (as a lot of animal conscious people will choose) > > I use to be a vegetarian too. I was a lot younger. I remember going to a vegetarian group meeting once (because none of my friends were vegans). Everyone (almost hands down, except the Herablife representative) looked not so healthy. That stuck in my mind and over the years I eventually added fish and chicken. I remember reading studies when I took nutrition that vegans can live longer, but Ithink they have to really plan out that diet well, and maintain a certain lifestyle to build the Qi. I hope I am not getting into territory here that opens too many cans of worms. > > I am now in the years where yin Qi and yang Qi and blood need some nourishing. I do eat red meat and find at this time in my life it makes me feel better. No I don't like how animals are treated. The only thing I can come up with is hunting them which I am not also fond of. I see a heard of deer everytime I come home. There are plenty of hunters in this area, but to me, the deer are pets. I guess my dog would be viewed differently in different parts of the world. > > Anne > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > " " <attiliodalberto > > Hi Rebekka, > > > > I'm not generally cold, just lacking in Yang Qi energy as in motion, > > strength, etc. I now take a Korean red ginseng extract each day, > > which i must admit is great at tonifying Yang Qi. Now that I'm at the > > gym each day, i also take a whey protein supplement to try and keep > > up with all the meat eating gym enthusiasts! > > > > Attilio > > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > > > > > Chinese Medicine , " knumpf1 " > > <knumpf1@> wrote: > > > > > > hi everybody and specially attilio, > > > i too am a vegetarian for nearly 15 years now and i can relate to > > your feelings about lack > > > of yang-qi. i guess it is due to eating more " cold " food in general > > as a vegetarian. that is if > > > you are not very carefully choosing and preparing your food. it > > certainly takes more effort > > > to build up your yang this way, but with the right > > ingredients,herbs,cooking-methods and > > > a general qi- and yang-qi creating lifestyle you can get by very > > well. > > > > > > love, > > > rebekka > > > > > > Chinese Medicine , yehuda > > frischman <@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Attilio, > > > > > > > > As Z'ev mentioned, neither he nor I are actually vegetarians. > > Personally, I do not eat > > > red meat of any kind, nor dairy of any kind. My daily diet > > consists of organic eggs, fish, > > > grains (mostly white organic basmati rice), avocado and Humous, and > > lots of cooked > > > vegetables. I also have a whole grain spelt bagel each morning, > > with almond butter. > > > Once a week, on the Sabbath, I eat free range chicken. I don't eat > > any soy, as it makes me > > > feel bad. > > > > > > > > I am very sensitive to what I eat, and consciously avoid those > > foods that are harmful for > > > me, individually. As a mentioned, I use the Coca pulse test, if I > > have any suspicion. By > > > eating what is good for me, getting adequate sleep, walking at > > least a half hour twice a > > > day whenever possible, doing work that is incredibly fulfilling, > > being very much in love > > > and being loved by my significant other, not letting things bother > > me, and using herbs > > > whenever I am feeling like I am getting out of balance, I feel like > > a young colt, even though > > > I'm in my mid fifties. > > > > > > > > I think that feeling in balance comes from living in balance > > and all of these elements > > > need to be addressed. > > > > > > > > Wishing you vibrant health--and a good Shabbos! > > > > > > > > > > > > Yehuda > > > > > > > > Attilio D'Alberto <attiliodalberto@> wrote: > > > > Zev and Yehuda, > > > > > > > > I've been a vegetarian for some 16 years. > > > > > > > > Have you and other vegetarians noticed a distinctive lack of Yang > > Qi in your > > > > bodies? > > > > > > > > I'm convinced that my Yang Qi is weaker, almost passive, when > > compared to > > > > most meat eaters. I'm sure this is due to a lack of eating meat, > > which is > > > > predominately Yang in nature and a good source of protein. I try > > and get > > > > protein from alternative sources, but it's not easy. > > > > > > > > Have other vegetarians noticed the same thing? How do you deal > > with it? > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > > > Attilio D'Alberto > > > > Doctor of (Beijing, China) > > > > BSc (Hons) TCM MBAcC MATCM > > > > Editor > > > > Times > > > > +44 (0) 1189 612512 > > > > enquiries@ > > > > <http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/> > > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 One of the biggest problems with meat in the modern world is its quality. The hormones, antibiotics, preparation and breeding methods have radically transformed the quality of meat that most people eat. On Mar 24, 2007, at 2:13 AM, wrote: > Yes, plants are Yang in nature, but meat is muscle, which relates to > the Spleen, Spleen Yang and the source of Qi and Blood. I would say > the opposite, in that animals are more Yang and plants are more Yin. > Animals are often mammals, warm blooded and therefore Yang. Plants > are not warm blooded, they need the sun to gain their warmth and are > therefore more Yin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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