Guest guest Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Attilio: Aggressive Energy is a Worsley protocol to clear chaotic energy, that many new patients come in with. It is essentially excessive heat. It goes like this BL13 BL14 BL18 BL20 BL 23 back to BL 15 (Heart last) Right to left , in this order. Needle lightly, even, needles slightly hanging. Leave in for 20 mins (some people need more). If you don't have time, do it in more than one tx. Reddness often shows up around the points. When the AE or heat clears, the reddness goes away. use a test needle in each Jaio (not on a point) to compare reddness - is it a skin reaction or real erythema Many people feel like a million dollars after it. It can bring up law of cure, so warn them that they could experience old symptoms (e.g. headache), or feel like they have th flu (I watch how I say this so as not to have the suggestion create the experience). for 24 to 48 hrs, max 72. Then people usually feel great. That law of cure is not something everyone experiences, or it is very subtle. When people are already in treatment, you can look for it as follows: Person seems chaotic They seem off to you - different than usual irritable, aggressive, angry, emotional Alot of qualities, sharp quality, booming or heat on the pulses treatments aren't moving or holding New person: History of serious emotional or physical illnes history of sbstance abuse or toxic living or working situaiton feeling of chaos but patient is still in control You can feel uncomfortable in their presence. ID's are more when someone has a cloudy look in their eyes, something has got a hold of them. Worsley would say treat this first, then follow with AE I now start most everyone with AE, they may not be ready for ID's unleasing the dragon. Sometimes, if I can't do multiple tx's I will just go after the pain and do AE the next time. It's great to do an interview, AE, and maybe a Dr. Tan Tx on the hand, for low back pain, in one treatment. Hope this is somewhat clear. Anne -------------- Original message ---------------------- " " <attiliodalberto > Aggressive Energy is in the Back Shu points? I've never heard of > that. Can you explain more about it please. > > Attilio > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > Chinese Medicine , anne.crowley > wrote: > > > > Pete: > > > > Aggessive Energy is the Back Shu points. It is in the Worsley > protocol and recommend for most all new patients. I also do it > throughout the course of treatment, when I feel it's needed. > > I did a detailed explanation of this treatment. I am sure it is in > the archives. But you probably areadly know it - drain the back shu > points, needles in lightly (slightly hanging - also I prefer metal > handles on this unless they are sensitive), until redness goes away, > about 20 min. Put in order of Bl 13,14, 18,20, 23 and then back to > BL 15. A stand along treatment. Then you can do other points on the > same day, but this one stands alone. > > > > Anne > > > > P.S. Pete, I hope you are not fully retired. You can do house > calls and someone once thought a mobile acupuncture unit would be a > good idea. What do you think? You can get to all the hot spots in > Florida and maybe see a couple of good basketball games. Seriously, > hope you have your hands in the work somehow. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > Pete Theisen <petetheisen > > > On Wednesday 07 March 2007 9:05 am, anne.crowley wrote: > > > > Karen: > > > > > > > > I will try to stay away from the herb question. Okay, I'll say > it. I > > > > would look to see if a formula like Calm Spirit or Ease Plus > (more wood > > > > related) can add to help with the anxiety. I am sure their are > people here > > > > to give you more detailed analysis of the herbal question. > > > > > > > > Just wanted to add that doing Aggressive Energy more often > > > > > > Hi Anne! > > > > > > Is " Aggressive Energy " TCM? I don't recall anything about it in > school. > > > Perhaps you could share a link to what you are talking about, or > briefly > > > describe it. > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > > > > Pete > > > http://www.pete-theisen.com/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 On Monday 12 March 2007 11:17 am, anne.crowley wrote: <snip> > ID's are more when someone has a cloudy look in their eyes, something has > got a hold of them. Worsley would say treat this first, then follow with > AE Hi Anne! Sorry to ask if it is obvious to everyone else, ID's? What is ID's? -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 ID's are Internal Dragons as opposed to External Dragons - part of Worsley's 5 element teachings. To summon the seven dragons to eat or expel the demons possessing a person. Internal dragons for internal possession - obsession-type stuff, or external possession - for.....well...as it says. stephen > > Sorry to ask if it is obvious to everyone else, ID's? What is ID's? > -- > Regards, > > Pete > http://www.pete-theisen.com/ > ------------- This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 On Monday 12 March 2007 6:30 pm, stephenmacallan wrote: > ID's are Internal Dragons as opposed to External Dragons - part of > Worsley's 5 element teachings. To summon the seven dragons to eat or expel > the demons possessing a person. Internal dragons for internal possession - > obsession-type stuff, or external possession - for.....well...as it says. Hi Stephen! Interesting, thanks. > > stephen > > > Sorry to ask if it is obvious to everyone else, ID's? What is ID's? > > -- > > Regards, > > > > Pete > > http://www.pete-theisen.com/ > > ------------- > This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Hi Anne, Many thanks for the info. I can't say i know much about 5E acup. That's why i've asked Peter Mole to write an article on it for my journal. Attilio www.chinesemedicinetimes.com Chinese Medicine , anne.crowley wrote: > > Attilio: > > Aggressive Energy is a Worsley protocol to clear chaotic energy, that many new patients come in with. It is essentially excessive heat. > > It goes like this > > BL13 > BL14 > BL18 > BL20 > BL 23 > > back to BL 15 (Heart last) > > Right to left , in this order. Needle lightly, even, needles slightly hanging. Leave in for 20 mins (some people need more). If you don't have time, do it in more than one tx. > Reddness often shows up around the points. When the AE or heat clears, the reddness goes away. > use a test needle in each Jaio (not on a point) to compare reddness - is it a skin reaction or real erythema > > Many people feel like a million dollars after it. > It can bring up law of cure, so warn them that they could experience old symptoms (e.g. headache), or feel like they have th flu (I watch how I say this so as not to have the suggestion create the experience). for 24 to 48 hrs, max 72. Then people usually feel great. That law of cure is not something everyone experiences, or it is very subtle. > > When people are already in treatment, you can look for it as follows: > > Person seems chaotic > They seem off to you - different than usual > irritable, aggressive, angry, emotional > Alot of qualities, sharp quality, booming or heat on the pulses > treatments aren't moving or holding > > New person: > History of serious emotional or physical illnes > history of sbstance abuse or toxic living or working situaiton > feeling of chaos but patient is still in control > > You can feel uncomfortable in their presence. > > ID's are more when someone has a cloudy look in their eyes, something has got a hold of them. Worsley would say treat this first, then follow with AE > > > I now start most everyone with AE, they may not be ready for ID's unleasing the dragon. Sometimes, if I can't do multiple tx's I will just go after the pain and do AE the next time. It's great to do an interview, AE, and maybe a Dr. Tan Tx on the hand, for low back pain, in one treatment. > > Hope this is somewhat clear. > > Anne > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > " " <attiliodalberto > > Aggressive Energy is in the Back Shu points? I've never heard of > > that. Can you explain more about it please. > > > > Attilio > > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > > > Chinese Medicine , anne.crowley@ > > wrote: > > > > > > Pete: > > > > > > Aggessive Energy is the Back Shu points. It is in the Worsley > > protocol and recommend for most all new patients. I also do it > > throughout the course of treatment, when I feel it's needed. > > > I did a detailed explanation of this treatment. I am sure it is in > > the archives. But you probably areadly know it - drain the back shu > > points, needles in lightly (slightly hanging - also I prefer metal > > handles on this unless they are sensitive), until redness goes away, > > about 20 min. Put in order of Bl 13,14, 18,20, 23 and then back to > > BL 15. A stand along treatment. Then you can do other points on the > > same day, but this one stands alone. > > > > > > Anne > > > > > > P.S. Pete, I hope you are not fully retired. You can do house > > calls and someone once thought a mobile acupuncture unit would be a > > good idea. What do you think? You can get to all the hot spots in > > Florida and maybe see a couple of good basketball games. Seriously, > > hope you have your hands in the work somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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