Guest guest Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 I'm sorry, Alon, you say that on the basis of what evidence? Avery On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 11:24:19 -0500, Alon Marcus <alonmarcus wrote: > Very few chiros are well trained in orthotic therapy > > > > > > > > - > " Dr. Avery Jenkins " <docaltmed > <Chinese Medicine > > Friday, February 09, 2007 6:02 AM > Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis > > >> Many chiropractic physicians cast and fit orthotics. That would probably >> be your best option. >> >> >> On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:46:40 -0500, Alon Marcus <alonmarcus >> wrote: >> >>> Pete >>> You need to see someone that specializes in biomechanics. Most >>> pediatrists do not >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> Pete Theisen >>> Chinese Medicine >>> Thursday, February 08, 2007 7:43 PM >>> Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis >>> >>> >>> On Thursday 08 February 2007 1:47 pm, Alon Marcus wrote: >>> > unless >>> > forces are triggering the body to fill in those spaces of excess >>> tension. >>> > >>> > Richard >>> > That is correct and with some foot dysfunctions unless foot >>> biomechanics is >>> > corrected with a GOOD orthotic >>> >>> Hi Alon! >>> >>> How do you get a good orthotic? >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> >>> Pete >>> http://www.pete-theisen.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 I have taught biomechanics in seminars were many DCs attended and seen many devices done by DCs. I am not saying all are poorly trained but many just make generic devises many using foam molds and even worse many make weight bearing foam molds - " Dr. Avery Jenkins " <docaltmed <Chinese Medicine > Friday, February 09, 2007 9:09 AM Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis > I'm sorry, Alon, you say that on the basis of what evidence? > > Avery > > > On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 11:24:19 -0500, Alon Marcus <alonmarcus > wrote: > >> Very few chiros are well trained in orthotic therapy >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> " Dr. Avery Jenkins " <docaltmed >> <Chinese Medicine > >> Friday, February 09, 2007 6:02 AM >> Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis >> >> >>> Many chiropractic physicians cast and fit orthotics. That would probably >>> be your best option. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:46:40 -0500, Alon Marcus <alonmarcus >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Pete >>>> You need to see someone that specializes in biomechanics. Most >>>> pediatrists do not >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> - >>>> Pete Theisen >>>> Chinese Medicine >>>> Thursday, February 08, 2007 7:43 PM >>>> Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday 08 February 2007 1:47 pm, Alon Marcus wrote: >>>> > unless >>>> > forces are triggering the body to fill in those spaces of excess >>>> tension. >>>> > >>>> > Richard >>>> > That is correct and with some foot dysfunctions unless foot >>>> biomechanics is >>>> > corrected with a GOOD orthotic >>>> >>>> Hi Alon! >>>> >>>> How do you get a good orthotic? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Pete >>>> http://www.pete-theisen.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 suggest having a look at proprioceptive insoles ( Prof.. Brain A. Rothbart) vs orthotics Ross Ralph Dr.TCM - " Alon Marcus " <alonmarcus <Chinese Medicine > Friday, February 09, 2007 8:24 AM Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis > Very few chiros are well trained in orthotic therapy > > > > > > > > - > " Dr. Avery Jenkins " <docaltmed > <Chinese Medicine > > Friday, February 09, 2007 6:02 AM > Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis > > >> Many chiropractic physicians cast and fit orthotics. That would probably >> be your best option. >> >> >> On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:46:40 -0500, Alon Marcus <alonmarcus >> wrote: >> >>> Pete >>> You need to see someone that specializes in biomechanics. Most >>> pediatrists do not >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> Pete Theisen >>> Chinese Medicine >>> Thursday, February 08, 2007 7:43 PM >>> Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis >>> >>> >>> On Thursday 08 February 2007 1:47 pm, Alon Marcus wrote: >>> > unless >>> > forces are triggering the body to fill in those spaces of excess >>> tension. >>> > >>> > Richard >>> > That is correct and with some foot dysfunctions unless foot >>> biomechanics is >>> > corrected with a GOOD orthotic >>> >>> Hi Alon! >>> >>> How do you get a good orthotic? >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> >>> Pete >>> http://www.pete-theisen.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2007 Report Share Posted February 11, 2007 Ross The type of device really depends on the type of foot. Some patient do very well with accomodative devises which stimulate proprioceptive input, others need a lot of control, and some need some of both. There is no fit all device - " Ross Ralph " <courtenayhealing <Chinese Medicine > Saturday, February 10, 2007 12:57 AM Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis > suggest having a look at proprioceptive insoles ( Prof.. Brain A. > Rothbart) > vs orthotics > Ross Ralph Dr.TCM > - > " Alon Marcus " <alonmarcus > <Chinese Medicine > > Friday, February 09, 2007 8:24 AM > Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis > > >> Very few chiros are well trained in orthotic therapy >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> " Dr. Avery Jenkins " <docaltmed >> <Chinese Medicine > >> Friday, February 09, 2007 6:02 AM >> Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis >> >> >>> Many chiropractic physicians cast and fit orthotics. That would probably >>> be your best option. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:46:40 -0500, Alon Marcus <alonmarcus >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Pete >>>> You need to see someone that specializes in biomechanics. Most >>>> pediatrists do not >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> - >>>> Pete Theisen >>>> Chinese Medicine >>>> Thursday, February 08, 2007 7:43 PM >>>> Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday 08 February 2007 1:47 pm, Alon Marcus wrote: >>>> > unless >>>> > forces are triggering the body to fill in those spaces of excess >>>> tension. >>>> > >>>> > Richard >>>> > That is correct and with some foot dysfunctions unless foot >>>> biomechanics is >>>> > corrected with a GOOD orthotic >>>> >>>> Hi Alon! >>>> >>>> How do you get a good orthotic? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Pete >>>> http://www.pete-theisen.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Alon, I would like to respond to your statement that chiropractors are not properly trained in the use of prescription foot orthoses and that the techniques that some chiropractors use to cast the foot are invalid. With regard to your first statement, that chiropractic physicians are not well-trained in prescription or use of orthotics, you are either ignorant of, or are willingly misrepresenting, the facts. Chiropractic physicians are trained in the biomechanics of the foot and the use of custom orthoses as a core part of their training. The chiropractic colleges whose curriculum I am familiar with instruct students in the prescription and preparation of both NWB and weight-bearing orthoses. In addition chiropractic physicians who are board-certified specialists in either sports medicine or orthopedics receive additional training in the use of foot orthoses. As I'm sure you know, those two specialities are two of the largest in the chiropractic profession. It may be that the chiropractic doctors that attended your seminars were unaware of their proper prescription or use, but I doubt that is representative of the profession. I was intrigued that, despite being active in many facets of the profession for over a dozen years, I had never heard of your seminars until you mentioned them. In fact, when I queried the largest chiropractic listservs regarding your seminars, representing thousands of chiropractic physicians nationwide, including research scientists as well as college, state association and national association presidents, nobody had even heard of your seminars. Thus, I would suggest that the number of chiropractic physicians attending your seminars is probably a rather small, self-selecting sample. Secondly, with regard to the use of weight-bearing casts for foot orthoses, your statement is out of sync with the research. Both weight-bearing and NWB orthotics casting techniques have their place, depending on the patient and the condition. As you should know, the subtalar joint neutral system of podiatric biomechanics upon which you apparently base your concepts of appropriate orthotic prescription is well over 40 years old, and serious challenges to Dr. Root's initial research (as comprehensive as it was) have been around for decades. There is, of course, the work of McPoil and Hunt, as well as Payne and Dananberg, which demonstrated that alternative orthotic prescriptive procedures, specifically weight-bearing pressure analysis, were highly effective, particularly in dealing with problems relating to the other joints of the lower extremity, pelvis, and lumbar spine. I hope that this clears up any misconceptions that other participants on this list may have gotten as a result of your statements. I appreciate the moderator's tolerance of my reply. Since the allegations were made publicly, I felt it appropriate to respond publicly, but I truly do not want to detract from the purpose of this list, and would request that any further comments be made privately. Avery L. Jenkins, DC, FIAMA, DACBN Chiropractic Physician Fellow, International Academy of Medical Acupuncturists Diplomate, American Clinical Board of Nutrition www.docaltmed.com -- -- E-MAIL CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE - This transmission may be: (1) subject to Physician-Patient confidentiality, or, (2) strictly confidential. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you may not disclose, print, copy or disseminate this information under the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act. If you have received this in error, please reply and notify the sender (only) and delete the message. Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of federal criminal law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Avery At least in CA DC schools most advance foot biomechanics are elective classes. I once helped Michael Brown teach one so i am familiar at least with the San Jose school. I am especially aware of Dananberg's work as he is one of my main mentors and while he uses a gait lab he usually cast in neutral. Here in northern CA i see pt getting generic foam casted devices every day. There are no corrections in them, at best they can be called arch supports. At the same time i do know some DCs as well as quite a few PTs that are very well trained. - " Dr. Avery Jenkins " <docaltmed <Chinese Medicine > Monday, February 12, 2007 11:06 AM Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis > Alon, > > I would like to respond to your statement that chiropractors are not > properly trained in the use of prescription foot orthoses and that the > techniques that some chiropractors use to cast the foot are invalid. > > With regard to your first statement, that chiropractic physicians are not > well-trained in prescription or use of orthotics, you are either ignorant > of, or are willingly misrepresenting, the facts. Chiropractic physicians > are trained in the biomechanics of the foot and the use of custom orthoses > as a core part of their training. The chiropractic colleges whose > curriculum I am familiar with instruct students in the prescription and > preparation of both NWB and weight-bearing orthoses. In addition > chiropractic physicians who are board-certified specialists in either > sports medicine or orthopedics receive additional training in the use of > foot orthoses. As I'm sure you know, those two specialities are two of the > largest in the chiropractic profession. > > It may be that the chiropractic doctors that attended your seminars were > unaware of their proper prescription or use, but I doubt that is > representative of the profession. I was intrigued that, despite being > active in many facets of the profession for over a dozen years, I had > never heard of your seminars until you mentioned them. In fact, when I > queried the largest chiropractic listservs regarding your seminars, > representing thousands of chiropractic physicians nationwide, including > research scientists as well as college, state association and national > association presidents, nobody had even heard of your seminars. > > Thus, I would suggest that the number of chiropractic physicians attending > your seminars is probably a rather small, self-selecting sample. > > Secondly, with regard to the use of weight-bearing casts for foot > orthoses, your statement is out of sync with the research. Both > weight-bearing and NWB orthotics casting techniques have their place, > depending on the patient and the condition. > > As you should know, the subtalar joint neutral system of podiatric > biomechanics upon which you apparently base your concepts of appropriate > orthotic prescription is well over 40 years old, and serious challenges to > Dr. Root's initial research (as comprehensive as it was) have been around > for decades. There is, of course, the work of McPoil and Hunt, as well as > Payne and Dananberg, which demonstrated that alternative orthotic > prescriptive procedures, specifically weight-bearing pressure analysis, > were highly effective, particularly in dealing with problems relating to > the other joints of the lower extremity, pelvis, and lumbar spine. > > I hope that this clears up any misconceptions that other participants on > this list may have gotten as a result of your statements. > > I appreciate the moderator's tolerance of my reply. Since the allegations > were made publicly, I felt it appropriate to respond publicly, but I truly > do not want to detract from the purpose of this list, and would request > that any further comments be made privately. > > > Avery L. Jenkins, DC, FIAMA, DACBN > Chiropractic Physician > Fellow, International Academy of Medical Acupuncturists > Diplomate, American Clinical Board of Nutrition > www.docaltmed.com > -- > -- > E-MAIL CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE - This transmission may be: (1) subject to > Physician-Patient confidentiality, or, (2) strictly confidential. If you > are not the intended recipient of this message, you may not disclose, > print, copy or disseminate this information under the Health Insurance > Portability and Accountability Act. 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Guest guest Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Every Let me give you an example i saw a few weeks ago. I saw a pt for chronic PT dysfunction and pain. His wife, a DC, made a weightbearing mold and gave him a very accomodative devise which did not help. The pt had a typical PT dysfunction with severe arch collapse as well severe FHL. Her devise actually increase hallux height and thus his FHL. I talked to her and she admitted to not really understanding orthotic therapy. She told me they did learn orthotic therapy and that these were mostly elective or post grad classes (she is 18 yr out of school). In many ways this is true for many DPMs as well. Those that are interested learn a lot and take a lot of biomechanics, however many do not even though the RX these daily. I have never said no Chiro physicians understand orthotic therapy just that from what i see many do not take additional training and tend to make generic devises that often do not help and are inappropriate for the patient. Michael Brown DC, MD is one of the most educated practitioners i have ever met and was the one that actually got me into using orthotics. So don't take me wrong i have nothing against chiros i am just speaking to what i see. And by the way the courses i was talking about are courses were i was assisting in not running. None were geared to DC professions and i do not think were advertised there but i have no idea. - " Dr. Avery Jenkins " <docaltmed <Chinese Medicine > Monday, February 12, 2007 11:06 AM Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis > Alon, > > I would like to respond to your statement that chiropractors are not > properly trained in the use of prescription foot orthoses and that the > techniques that some chiropractors use to cast the foot are invalid. > > With regard to your first statement, that chiropractic physicians are not > well-trained in prescription or use of orthotics, you are either ignorant > of, or are willingly misrepresenting, the facts. Chiropractic physicians > are trained in the biomechanics of the foot and the use of custom orthoses > as a core part of their training. The chiropractic colleges whose > curriculum I am familiar with instruct students in the prescription and > preparation of both NWB and weight-bearing orthoses. In addition > chiropractic physicians who are board-certified specialists in either > sports medicine or orthopedics receive additional training in the use of > foot orthoses. As I'm sure you know, those two specialities are two of the > largest in the chiropractic profession. > > It may be that the chiropractic doctors that attended your seminars were > unaware of their proper prescription or use, but I doubt that is > representative of the profession. I was intrigued that, despite being > active in many facets of the profession for over a dozen years, I had > never heard of your seminars until you mentioned them. In fact, when I > queried the largest chiropractic listservs regarding your seminars, > representing thousands of chiropractic physicians nationwide, including > research scientists as well as college, state association and national > association presidents, nobody had even heard of your seminars. > > Thus, I would suggest that the number of chiropractic physicians attending > your seminars is probably a rather small, self-selecting sample. > > Secondly, with regard to the use of weight-bearing casts for foot > orthoses, your statement is out of sync with the research. Both > weight-bearing and NWB orthotics casting techniques have their place, > depending on the patient and the condition. > > As you should know, the subtalar joint neutral system of podiatric > biomechanics upon which you apparently base your concepts of appropriate > orthotic prescription is well over 40 years old, and serious challenges to > Dr. Root's initial research (as comprehensive as it was) have been around > for decades. There is, of course, the work of McPoil and Hunt, as well as > Payne and Dananberg, which demonstrated that alternative orthotic > prescriptive procedures, specifically weight-bearing pressure analysis, > were highly effective, particularly in dealing with problems relating to > the other joints of the lower extremity, pelvis, and lumbar spine. > > I hope that this clears up any misconceptions that other participants on > this list may have gotten as a result of your statements. > > I appreciate the moderator's tolerance of my reply. Since the allegations > were made publicly, I felt it appropriate to respond publicly, but I truly > do not want to detract from the purpose of this list, and would request > that any further comments be made privately. > > > Avery L. Jenkins, DC, FIAMA, DACBN > Chiropractic Physician > Fellow, International Academy of Medical Acupuncturists > Diplomate, American Clinical Board of Nutrition > www.docaltmed.com > -- > -- > E-MAIL CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE - This transmission may be: (1) subject to > Physician-Patient confidentiality, or, (2) strictly confidential. If you > are not the intended recipient of this message, you may not disclose, > print, copy or disseminate this information under the Health Insurance > Portability and Accountability Act. 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Guest guest Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 On Monday 12 February 2007 5:45 pm, Alon Marcus wrote: > Every > Let me give you an example i saw a few weeks ago. I saw a pt for chronic PT > dysfunction and pain. His wife, a DC, made a weightbearing mold and gave > him a very accomodative devise which did not help. The pt had a typical PT > dysfunction with severe arch collapse as well severe FHL. Hi Alon! We didn't all go to the same school. What do you mean by PT dysfunction and sever FHL? -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 Hi Pete PT is posterior tibialis, FHL is functional hallux limitus - " Pete Theisen " <petetheisen <Chinese Medicine > Monday, February 12, 2007 4:45 PM Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis > On Monday 12 February 2007 5:45 pm, Alon Marcus wrote: >> Every >> Let me give you an example i saw a few weeks ago. I saw a pt for chronic >> PT >> dysfunction and pain. His wife, a DC, made a weightbearing mold and gave >> him a very accomodative devise which did not help. The pt had a typical >> PT >> dysfunction with severe arch collapse as well severe FHL. > > Hi Alon! > > We didn't all go to the same school. What do you mean by PT dysfunction > and > sever FHL? > -- > Regards, > > Pete > http://www.pete-theisen.com/ > > > Subscribe to the new FREE online journal for TCM at Times > http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > Download the all new TCM Forum Toolbar, click, > http://toolbar.thebizplace.com/LandingPage.aspx/CT145145 > > > and adjust > accordingly. > > Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the group > requires prior permission from the author. > > Please consider the environment and only print this message if absolutely > necessary. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 This is a reply to a question about orthotic therapy from a friend who is a DC, MD. I think its interesting Orthotic training in chiropractic College, you have got to be kidding me! I will tell you the truth about orthotic training in chiropractic college. Many years ago a chiropractor by the name of Monty Greenwalt DC started the " Footlevelers " company. They were not true orthotics but little cookies that were prescribed to poor ignorant chiropractors who didn't know any better. They use little foam boxes that to make their impressions and send them and this guy would send back what he would call an orthotic. He wrapped his concept around applied kinesiology and showed that muscles would get stronger with the wearing of the devices. A concept quite common to chiropractors who understand principles of applied kinesiology and gave them the right to used these devices. They looked like they worked so I kept using them just like everyone else. What I didn't know then was that I could roll up " a sock " in the right shape and put it in a shoe and it could control pronation in the majority of the population and have some therapeutic benefit.It took me extensive postgraduate training to understand various principles of orthotics, biomechanical analysis, etc. before I really knew what I was doing. Personally, I had a number of chiropractic students (when I was teaching chiropractic students) that were heavily influenced at Palmer College West by a teacher in the program. She did introduce her students to slipper casting and orthotics. Her teachings were at least a little more sophisticated than the days of Monty Greenwalt DC. My guess is there are a few Mavericks scattered around chiropractic colleges that are teaching students some basic principles. The training is limited, the experience is limited, and I have yet to see a student graduate from the chiropractic College who knows what they're doing with orthotics. The key is for them to recognize they only have foundational knowledge and to build on it if they so desire. There is one college of honorable mention and that is Los Angeles College of chiropractic now southern California University health sciences. In that college there are in fact a number of individuals who were actually quite knowledgeable about orthotics, and the application of orthotic principles. They do teach their students. So if you're talking to a LACC graduate you're talking to someone who probably has more advanced knowledge but otherwise forget it. - " Dr. Avery Jenkins " <docaltmed <Chinese Medicine > Monday, February 12, 2007 11:06 AM Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis > Alon, > > I would like to respond to your statement that chiropractors are not > properly trained in the use of prescription foot orthoses and that the > techniques that some chiropractors use to cast the foot are invalid. > > With regard to your first statement, that chiropractic physicians are not > well-trained in prescription or use of orthotics, you are either ignorant > of, or are willingly misrepresenting, the facts. Chiropractic physicians > are trained in the biomechanics of the foot and the use of custom orthoses > as a core part of their training. The chiropractic colleges whose > curriculum I am familiar with instruct students in the prescription and > preparation of both NWB and weight-bearing orthoses. In addition > chiropractic physicians who are board-certified specialists in either > sports medicine or orthopedics receive additional training in the use of > foot orthoses. As I'm sure you know, those two specialities are two of the > largest in the chiropractic profession. > > It may be that the chiropractic doctors that attended your seminars were > unaware of their proper prescription or use, but I doubt that is > representative of the profession. I was intrigued that, despite being > active in many facets of the profession for over a dozen years, I had > never heard of your seminars until you mentioned them. In fact, when I > queried the largest chiropractic listservs regarding your seminars, > representing thousands of chiropractic physicians nationwide, including > research scientists as well as college, state association and national > association presidents, nobody had even heard of your seminars. > > Thus, I would suggest that the number of chiropractic physicians attending > your seminars is probably a rather small, self-selecting sample. > > Secondly, with regard to the use of weight-bearing casts for foot > orthoses, your statement is out of sync with the research. Both > weight-bearing and NWB orthotics casting techniques have their place, > depending on the patient and the condition. > > As you should know, the subtalar joint neutral system of podiatric > biomechanics upon which you apparently base your concepts of appropriate > orthotic prescription is well over 40 years old, and serious challenges to > Dr. Root's initial research (as comprehensive as it was) have been around > for decades. There is, of course, the work of McPoil and Hunt, as well as > Payne and Dananberg, which demonstrated that alternative orthotic > prescriptive procedures, specifically weight-bearing pressure analysis, > were highly effective, particularly in dealing with problems relating to > the other joints of the lower extremity, pelvis, and lumbar spine. > > I hope that this clears up any misconceptions that other participants on > this list may have gotten as a result of your statements. > > I appreciate the moderator's tolerance of my reply. Since the allegations > were made publicly, I felt it appropriate to respond publicly, but I truly > do not want to detract from the purpose of this list, and would request > that any further comments be made privately. > > > Avery L. Jenkins, DC, FIAMA, DACBN > Chiropractic Physician > Fellow, International Academy of Medical Acupuncturists > Diplomate, American Clinical Board of Nutrition > www.docaltmed.com > -- > -- > E-MAIL CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE - This transmission may be: (1) subject to > Physician-Patient confidentiality, or, (2) strictly confidential. If you > are not the intended recipient of this message, you may not disclose, > print, copy or disseminate this information under the Health Insurance > Portability and Accountability Act. If you have received this in error, > please reply and notify the sender (only) and delete the message. > Unauthorized interception of this e-mail is a violation of federal > criminal law. > > > Subscribe to the new FREE online journal for TCM at Times > http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > Download the all new TCM Forum Toolbar, click, > http://toolbar.thebizplace.com/LandingPage.aspx/CT145145 > > > and adjust > accordingly. > > Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the group > requires prior permission from the author. > > Please consider the environment and only print this message if absolutely > necessary. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Professor/Dr Brian A rothb Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Good information on Orthotics. Bottom line, treat the cause, not the symptom (e.g., pain) and no one type of foot device works for every patient. Professor/Dr Brian A Rothbart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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