Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Kiran The spur is just a response to tension on the plantar fascia. If the biomechanics are not treated the spur will come back. Pt with heel spurs do not have a higher % of pain than those that do not. treating the attachment of the fascia, biomechanics and muscle balance works 99% of the time, most of the time completely eliminating all symptoms. - kiran phalke pa-l Tuesday, February 06, 2007 11:07 PM Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis It does not cause any pain as an analgesic and a steroid is already injected. I have seen this Kiran Alon Marcus <alonmarcus wrote: Why brake the spur it does not cause any pain its the plantar fascia - kiran phalke pa-l Monday, February 05, 2007 11:26 PM Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis Ht I have seen in china that a spur is simply broen with a special needle called PHI needle. An injection of steroid and an analgesic is given at a sight and then (if anatomically possible) The PHI needle is inserted and hit on the spur which breakes and eventually gets absobed in the body Kiran Phalke " P.T. Ferrance " <ptf1 wrote: Hi, I have read about dissolving bone spurs and have spoken with others about this but have not actually done it myself. I have a woman with a possible bone spur in her shoulder. Currently presenting with bursitis and biceps long head tendonitis. She is deciding on whether or not to have x-rays re the spur. Has anyone on the list actually dissolved a spur with acupuncture? If you have would you mind sharing your technique. From what I have learned I have a sense that it is done with a surround the dragon technique and then use e-stim. Is it micro or mille-current? Or does it matter. If you did something different please let me know. Thanks for any help you can give. P.T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Plantar fascitis and/or achilles tendonitis are the usual causes of heel spurs. The simplest correction of these biomechanical imbalances can be brought about quickly by combining the use of BaGuaFa (gua sha and cupping) along with acupuncture needles. Once the tension imbalance is alleviated the mechanism of osteoclasts will reverse the heel spur over time. Richard In a message dated 2/7/2007 10:40:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, alonmarcus writes: The spur is just a response to tension on the plantar fascia. If the biomechanics are not treated the spur will come back. Pt with heel spurs do not have a higher % of pain than those that do not. treating the attachment of the fascia, biomechanics and muscle balance works 99% of the time, most of the time completely eliminating all symptoms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 how do you correct biomechanical imbalance with gua sha? can you change an equines foot for example? - acudoc11 Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ; Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:44 AM Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis Plantar fascitis and/or achilles tendonitis are the usual causes of heel spurs. The simplest correction of these biomechanical imbalances can be brought about quickly by combining the use of BaGuaFa (gua sha and cupping) along with acupuncture needles. Once the tension imbalance is alleviated the mechanism of osteoclasts will reverse the heel spur over time. Richard In a message dated 2/7/2007 10:40:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, alonmarcus writes: The spur is just a response to tension on the plantar fascia. If the biomechanics are not treated the spur will come back. Pt with heel spurs do not have a higher % of pain than those that do not. treating the attachment of the fascia, biomechanics and muscle balance works 99% of the time, most of the time completely eliminating all symptoms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Alon, are you asking if you can change a horse's hoof? Or is this yet another term I'm not familiar with? doug , " Alon Marcus " <alonmarcus wrote: > > how do you correct biomechanical imbalance with gua sha? can you change an equines foot for example? > > > > > > > > - > acudoc11 > Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ; > Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:44 AM > Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis > > > > Plantar fascitis and/or achilles tendonitis are the usual causes of heel > spurs. > > The simplest correction of these biomechanical imbalances can be brought > about quickly by combining the use of BaGuaFa (gua sha and cupping) along with > acupuncture needles. > > Once the tension imbalance is alleviated the mechanism of osteoclasts will > reverse the heel spur over time. > > Richard > > > > In a message dated 2/7/2007 10:40:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > alonmarcus writes: > > The spur is just a response to tension on the plantar fascia. If the > biomechanics are not treated the spur will come back. Pt with heel spurs do not have > a higher % of pain than those that do not. treating the attachment of the > fascia, biomechanics and muscle balance works 99% of the time, most of the > time completely eliminating all symptoms. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Anyone knows a good TCM dr in Viena thanks - Alon Marcus Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ; Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:44 AM Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis how do you correct biomechanical imbalance with gua sha? can you change an equines foot for example? - acudoc11 Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ; Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:44 AM Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis Plantar fascitis and/or achilles tendonitis are the usual causes of heel spurs. The simplest correction of these biomechanical imbalances can be brought about quickly by combining the use of BaGuaFa (gua sha and cupping) along with acupuncture needles. Once the tension imbalance is alleviated the mechanism of osteoclasts will reverse the heel spur over time. Richard In a message dated 2/7/2007 10:40:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, alonmarcus writes: The spur is just a response to tension on the plantar fascia. If the biomechanics are not treated the spur will come back. Pt with heel spurs do not have a higher % of pain than those that do not. treating the attachment of the fascia, biomechanics and muscle balance works 99% of the time, most of the time completely eliminating all symptoms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Doug Its the talapi equino varus foot which tends to be a supinated foot (high arched). If it is compensated for the pt tends to have what looks like a very flat foot - Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:18 PM Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis Alon, are you asking if you can change a horse's hoof? Or is this yet another term I'm not familiar with? doug , " Alon Marcus " <alonmarcus wrote: > > how do you correct biomechanical imbalance with gua sha? can you change an equines foot for example? > > > > > > > > - > acudoc11 > Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ; > Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:44 AM > Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis > > > > Plantar fascitis and/or achilles tendonitis are the usual causes of heel > spurs. > > The simplest correction of these biomechanical imbalances can be brought > about quickly by combining the use of BaGuaFa (gua sha and cupping) along with > acupuncture needles. > > Once the tension imbalance is alleviated the mechanism of osteoclasts will > reverse the heel spur over time. > > Richard > > > > In a message dated 2/7/2007 10:40:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > alonmarcus writes: > > The spur is just a response to tension on the plantar fascia. If the > biomechanics are not treated the spur will come back. Pt with heel spurs do not have > a higher % of pain than those that do not. treating the attachment of the > fascia, biomechanics and muscle balance works 99% of the time, most of the > time completely eliminating all symptoms. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Well Richard this foot type is do to body structure not tissues - acudoc11 Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ; Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:14 PM Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis Anyone who has really practiced gua sha would experientially know that one can easily decompress the tissues by these methods (including cupping if there is no hair) thereby changing the tensions and counter tensions. Richard In a message dated 2/7/2007 2:53:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, alonmarcus writes: how do you correct biomechanical imbalance with gua sha? can you change an equines foot for example? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Richard sorry should have said bony structure - Alon Marcus pa-l ; Chinese Medicine ; Wednesday, February 07, 2007 2:17 PM Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis Well Richard this foot type is do to body structure not tissues - acudoc11 Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ; Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:14 PM Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis Anyone who has really practiced gua sha would experientially know that one can easily decompress the tissues by these methods (including cupping if there is no hair) thereby changing the tensions and counter tensions. Richard In a message dated 2/7/2007 2:53:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, alonmarcus writes: how do you correct biomechanical imbalance with gua sha? can you change an equines foot for example? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Anyone who has really practiced gua sha would experientially know that one can easily decompress the tissues by these methods (including cupping if there is no hair) thereby changing the tensions and counter tensions. Richard In a message dated 2/7/2007 2:53:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, alonmarcus writes: how do you correct biomechanical imbalance with gua sha? can you change an equines foot for example? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Kiran The spur is just a response to tension on the plantar fascia. If the biomechanics are not treated the spur will come back. Pt with heel spurs do not have a higher % of pain than those that do not. treating the attachment of the fascia, biomechanics and muscle balance works 99% of the time, most of the time completely eliminating all symptoms. - kiran phalke pa-l Tuesday, February 06, 2007 11:07 PM Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis It does not cause any pain as an analgesic and a steroid is already injected. I have seen this Kiran Alon Marcus <alonmarcus wrote: Why brake the spur it does not cause any pain its the plantar fascia - kiran phalke pa-l Monday, February 05, 2007 11:26 PM Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis Ht I have seen in china that a spur is simply broen with a special needle called PHI needle. An injection of steroid and an analgesic is given at a sight and then (if anatomically possible) The PHI needle is inserted and hit on the spur which breakes and eventually gets absobed in the body Kiran Phalke " P.T. Ferrance " <ptf1 wrote: Hi, I have read about dissolving bone spurs and have spoken with others about this but have not actually done it myself. I have a woman with a possible bone spur in her shoulder. Currently presenting with bursitis and biceps long head tendonitis. She is deciding on whether or not to have x-rays re the spur. Has anyone on the list actually dissolved a spur with acupuncture? If you have would you mind sharing your technique. From what I have learned I have a sense that it is done with a surround the dragon technique and then use e-stim. Is it micro or mille-current? Or does it matter. If you did something different please let me know. Thanks for any help you can give. P.T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Thanks, I thought we were headed for another vet discussion. :-) doug , " Alon Marcus " <alonmarcus wrote: > > Doug > Its the talapi equino varus foot which tends to be a supinated foot (high arched). If it is compensated for the pt tends to have what looks like a very flat foot > > > > > > > > - > > > Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:18 PM > Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis > > > Alon, are you asking if you can change a horse's hoof? Or is this yet another term I'm not > familiar with? > > doug > > , " Alon Marcus " <alonmarcus@> wrote: > > > > how do you correct biomechanical imbalance with gua sha? can you change an equines > foot for example? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > acudoc11@ > > Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ; > > > Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:44 AM > > Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis > > > > > > > > Plantar fascitis and/or achilles tendonitis are the usual causes of heel > > spurs. > > > > The simplest correction of these biomechanical imbalances can be brought > > about quickly by combining the use of BaGuaFa (gua sha and cupping) along with > > acupuncture needles. > > > > Once the tension imbalance is alleviated the mechanism of osteoclasts will > > reverse the heel spur over time. > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/7/2007 10:40:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > alonmarcus@ writes: > > > > The spur is just a response to tension on the plantar fascia. If the > > biomechanics are not treated the spur will come back. Pt with heel spurs do not have > > a higher % of pain than those that do not. treating the attachment of the > > fascia, biomechanics and muscle balance works 99% of the time, most of the > > time completely eliminating all symptoms. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 how do you correct biomechanical imbalance with gua sha? can you change an equines foot for example? - acudoc11 Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ; Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:44 AM Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis Plantar fascitis and/or achilles tendonitis are the usual causes of heel spurs. The simplest correction of these biomechanical imbalances can be brought about quickly by combining the use of BaGuaFa (gua sha and cupping) along with acupuncture needles. Once the tension imbalance is alleviated the mechanism of osteoclasts will reverse the heel spur over time. Richard In a message dated 2/7/2007 10:40:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, alonmarcus writes: The spur is just a response to tension on the plantar fascia. If the biomechanics are not treated the spur will come back. Pt with heel spurs do not have a higher % of pain than those that do not. treating the attachment of the fascia, biomechanics and muscle balance works 99% of the time, most of the time completely eliminating all symptoms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Anyone knows a good TCM dr in Viena thanks - Alon Marcus Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ; Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:44 AM Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis how do you correct biomechanical imbalance with gua sha? can you change an equines foot for example? - acudoc11 Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ; Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:44 AM Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis Plantar fascitis and/or achilles tendonitis are the usual causes of heel spurs. The simplest correction of these biomechanical imbalances can be brought about quickly by combining the use of BaGuaFa (gua sha and cupping) along with acupuncture needles. Once the tension imbalance is alleviated the mechanism of osteoclasts will reverse the heel spur over time. Richard In a message dated 2/7/2007 10:40:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, alonmarcus writes: The spur is just a response to tension on the plantar fascia. If the biomechanics are not treated the spur will come back. Pt with heel spurs do not have a higher % of pain than those that do not. treating the attachment of the fascia, biomechanics and muscle balance works 99% of the time, most of the time completely eliminating all symptoms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Well Richard this foot type is do to body structure not tissues - acudoc11 Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ; Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:14 PM Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis Anyone who has really practiced gua sha would experientially know that one can easily decompress the tissues by these methods (including cupping if there is no hair) thereby changing the tensions and counter tensions. Richard In a message dated 2/7/2007 2:53:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, alonmarcus writes: how do you correct biomechanical imbalance with gua sha? can you change an equines foot for example? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Richard sorry should have said bony structure - Alon Marcus pa-l ; Chinese Medicine ; Wednesday, February 07, 2007 2:17 PM Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis Well Richard this foot type is do to body structure not tissues - acudoc11 Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ; Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:14 PM Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis Anyone who has really practiced gua sha would experientially know that one can easily decompress the tissues by these methods (including cupping if there is no hair) thereby changing the tensions and counter tensions. Richard In a message dated 2/7/2007 2:53:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, alonmarcus writes: how do you correct biomechanical imbalance with gua sha? can you change an equines foot for example? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Alon ] One can effect a substantial change in the fascia that even covers bone and I would even go so far as to say one can effect (release tensions) with gua sha the periosteum. A question comes to mind. Where might a muscle turn into a tendon? Where might a tendon turn into periosteum or bone? Nowhere as there is no specific location that suddenly turns 100% into soft tissue to a more substantial tissue. There is a gradual change. And although bone is more substantial comparatively speaking......yet it is not as solid as some might think. Fascia, tendon, muscle, can all be unnecessarily creating excessive pulling forces on bone thereby stimulating the osteoblasts to activate causing repetitive stress injury thereby causing what in some areas of the body might be called osteoarthritis and in others areas bone spurs. For the most part the body does not grow bone spurs no matter how small or big they are......unless forces are triggering the body to fill in those spaces of excess tension. While all of this is eventing.......blood vessels (even the smallest of capillaries) are being stressed causing blood particles to extravasate from the vascular system. Blood vessels are also not as solid as some might think. When platelest and other blood particles wind up in interstitial tissue they do what platelets do.....they coagulate, they agglutinate. Sometimes in between the fibers of fascia and sometimes in larger clumps often in the interstitial fluid. And those heme molecules so to speak RUST. This is what in major part is seen as a result of gua sha and cupping called blood stagnation. Some surfaces as petechiae and others as slightly larger accumulations = ecchymosis. Recently a discussion I had with a neurologist before seeing the results of gua sha or cupping spoke of this same 'rusting' in the interstitial fluid and fascia. He knew it existed but never was able to see it released. Richard Freiberg, OMD, AP, LAc In a message dated 2/7/2007 5:43:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, alonmarcus writes: Richard sorry should have said bony structure Alon Marcus DOM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 PT With gua sha you can work directly on the achilles tendon and the fascia which covers it....if the spur is towards the rear of the heel. If it is medial then work more in the plantar fascia. Cupping is more difficult unless you have small cups (rarely available but some are curved to go around bone curves). If the patient has tight hamstring muscles consider an acupuncture needle technique of inserting quickly and removing quickly directly into the achilles tendon just above the attachment to the calcaneus. You can also apply BaGuaFa (gua sha and cupping) at the lumbo-sacral area to relieve tensions most likely contributing to some of the problem. Richard In a message dated 2/7/2007 6:16:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ptf1 writes: Thank you all for the wealth of information you have offered. I will have to pick and choose what I can use according to my scope of practice. Those techniques that amount to minor surgery would pose a problem due to insurance issues. Also, the heel is a very different structure than the shoulder. I am comfortable with GUA SHA and cupping and give that a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 unless forces are triggering the body to fill in those spaces of excess tension. >>>>>> Richard That is correct and with some foot dysfunctions unless foot biomechanics is corrected with a GOOD orthotic the stress cannot be reduced. I have used Gua Sha for over 20 yr and know what it can do and what it cannot do - acudoc11 Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ; Thursday, February 08, 2007 7:29 AM Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis Alon ] One can effect a substantial change in the fascia that even covers bone and I would even go so far as to say one can effect (release tensions) with gua sha the periosteum. A question comes to mind. Where might a muscle turn into a tendon? Where might a tendon turn into periosteum or bone? Nowhere as there is no specific location that suddenly turns 100% into soft tissue to a more substantial tissue. There is a gradual change. And although bone is more substantial comparatively speaking......yet it is not as solid as some might think. Fascia, tendon, muscle, can all be unnecessarily creating excessive pulling forces on bone thereby stimulating the osteoblasts to activate causing repetitive stress injury thereby causing what in some areas of the body might be called osteoarthritis and in others areas bone spurs. For the most part the body does not grow bone spurs no matter how small or big they are......unless forces are triggering the body to fill in those spaces of excess tension. While all of this is eventing.......blood vessels (even the smallest of capillaries) are being stressed causing blood particles to extravasate from the vascular system. Blood vessels are also not as solid as some might think. When platelest and other blood particles wind up in interstitial tissue they do what platelets do.....they coagulate, they agglutinate. Sometimes in between the fibers of fascia and sometimes in larger clumps often in the interstitial fluid. And those heme molecules so to speak RUST. This is what in major part is seen as a result of gua sha and cupping called blood stagnation. Some surfaces as petechiae and others as slightly larger accumulations = ecchymosis. Recently a discussion I had with a neurologist before seeing the results of gua sha or cupping spoke of this same 'rusting' in the interstitial fluid and fascia. He knew it existed but never was able to see it released. Richard Freiberg, OMD, AP, LAc In a message dated 2/7/2007 5:43:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, alonmarcus writes: Richard sorry should have said bony structure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 unless forces are triggering the body to fill in those spaces of excess tension. >>>>>> Richard That is correct and with some foot dysfunctions unless foot biomechanics is corrected with a GOOD orthotic the stress cannot be reduced. I have used Gua Sha for over 20 yr and know what it can do and what it cannot do - acudoc11 Chinese Medicine ; pa-l ; Thursday, February 08, 2007 7:29 AM Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis Alon ] One can effect a substantial change in the fascia that even covers bone and I would even go so far as to say one can effect (release tensions) with gua sha the periosteum. A question comes to mind. Where might a muscle turn into a tendon? Where might a tendon turn into periosteum or bone? Nowhere as there is no specific location that suddenly turns 100% into soft tissue to a more substantial tissue. There is a gradual change. And although bone is more substantial comparatively speaking......yet it is not as solid as some might think. Fascia, tendon, muscle, can all be unnecessarily creating excessive pulling forces on bone thereby stimulating the osteoblasts to activate causing repetitive stress injury thereby causing what in some areas of the body might be called osteoarthritis and in others areas bone spurs. For the most part the body does not grow bone spurs no matter how small or big they are......unless forces are triggering the body to fill in those spaces of excess tension. While all of this is eventing.......blood vessels (even the smallest of capillaries) are being stressed causing blood particles to extravasate from the vascular system. Blood vessels are also not as solid as some might think. When platelest and other blood particles wind up in interstitial tissue they do what platelets do.....they coagulate, they agglutinate. Sometimes in between the fibers of fascia and sometimes in larger clumps often in the interstitial fluid. And those heme molecules so to speak RUST. This is what in major part is seen as a result of gua sha and cupping called blood stagnation. Some surfaces as petechiae and others as slightly larger accumulations = ecchymosis. Recently a discussion I had with a neurologist before seeing the results of gua sha or cupping spoke of this same 'rusting' in the interstitial fluid and fascia. He knew it existed but never was able to see it released. Richard Freiberg, OMD, AP, LAc In a message dated 2/7/2007 5:43:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, alonmarcus writes: Richard sorry should have said bony structure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Alon More often than not there are contributing factors such as the need for orthotics. As part of the treatment plan one needs to resolve as many factors which re-create the stress injury. The discussion was what options of therapy for PT to use. There is a huge difference between a practitioner who uses Gua Sha and Cupping day in and day out for 15 years and one who occasionally uses Gua Sha. The point was not about you so please don't take it personally. Richard Freiberg, OMD In a message dated 2/8/2007 1:57:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, alonmarcus writes: Richard That is correct and with some foot dysfunctions unless foot biomechanics is corrected with a GOOD orthotic the stress cannot be reduced. I have used Gua Sha for over 20 yr and know what it can do and what it cannot do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 On Thursday 08 February 2007 1:47 pm, Alon Marcus wrote: > unless > forces are triggering the body to fill in those spaces of excess tension. > > Richard > That is correct and with some foot dysfunctions unless foot biomechanics is > corrected with a GOOD orthotic Hi Alon! How do you get a good orthotic? -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Pete You need to see someone that specializes in biomechanics. Most pediatrists do not - Pete Theisen Chinese Medicine Thursday, February 08, 2007 7:43 PM Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis On Thursday 08 February 2007 1:47 pm, Alon Marcus wrote: > unless > forces are triggering the body to fill in those spaces of excess tension. > > Richard > That is correct and with some foot dysfunctions unless foot biomechanics is > corrected with a GOOD orthotic Hi Alon! How do you get a good orthotic? -- Regards, Pete http://www.pete-theisen.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Richard interesting presentation, thank you. But I am not clear here ... [are you saying that] 'blood stagnation' is the result of gua sha and cupping? ................................ <,snipped>> ... blood particles wind up in interstitial tissue they do what platelets do.....they coagulate, they agglutinate. Sometimes in between the fibers of fascia and sometimes in larger clumps often in the interstitial fluid. And those heme molecules so to speak RUST. This is what in major part is seen as a result of gua sha and cupping called blood stagnation....<<snipped>> Richard Freiberg, OMD, AP, LAc Have a joyous and prosperous new year Peace Ed Kasper LAc. & family www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Many chiropractic physicians cast and fit orthotics. That would probably be your best option. On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:46:40 -0500, Alon Marcus <alonmarcus wrote: > Pete > You need to see someone that specializes in biomechanics. Most > pediatrists do not > > > > > > > > - > Pete Theisen > Chinese Medicine > Thursday, February 08, 2007 7:43 PM > Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis > > > On Thursday 08 February 2007 1:47 pm, Alon Marcus wrote: > > unless > > forces are triggering the body to fill in those spaces of excess > tension. > > > > Richard > > That is correct and with some foot dysfunctions unless foot > biomechanics is > > corrected with a GOOD orthotic > > Hi Alon! > > How do you get a good orthotic? > > -- > Regards, > > Pete > http://www.pete-theisen.com/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Very few chiros are well trained in orthotic therapy - " Dr. Avery Jenkins " <docaltmed <Chinese Medicine > Friday, February 09, 2007 6:02 AM Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis > Many chiropractic physicians cast and fit orthotics. That would probably > be your best option. > > > On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:46:40 -0500, Alon Marcus <alonmarcus > wrote: > >> Pete >> You need to see someone that specializes in biomechanics. Most >> pediatrists do not >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> Pete Theisen >> Chinese Medicine >> Thursday, February 08, 2007 7:43 PM >> Re: Re: [pa-l] bone spurs and bursitis >> >> >> On Thursday 08 February 2007 1:47 pm, Alon Marcus wrote: >> > unless >> > forces are triggering the body to fill in those spaces of excess >> tension. >> > >> > Richard >> > That is correct and with some foot dysfunctions unless foot >> biomechanics is >> > corrected with a GOOD orthotic >> >> Hi Alon! >> >> How do you get a good orthotic? >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Pete >> http://www.pete-theisen.com/ >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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