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That is really a modern way of achieving acupuncture and almost nonexistiant way

of getting good herbal training. Most of the older practioneers learned at

someones feet. Many of the finest herbalists that I know don't even have a BA

and yet are true masters of the art. Up until very recently it only took 2 years

of undergraduate and 2 years of AP school to get a license. I now have a MS in

OM but can't hold a match to most herbalists that I study with.

B

 

anne.crowley wrote:

Thanks for that background on Tierra's program. There is a graduate of

that program in my town, so it helps in knowing the training. I do know that

people can acheive this without a college degree and I guess I go back to my

bias about that. I strongly believe in liberal arts education with technical

education if the field requires. I just think professionals with certificaitons

like herbalist, acupuncturists, doctor of anything should have degress, starting

with a Bachelors and with the word doctor, an advanced degree of some kind,

hopefully a Ph.D or MD or equivalent. Oh, boy I may have opened a flood gate on

this education thing. I earned my Masters degree by the age of 25, put myself

through college, was not living at home and it was not free education. I guess I

am highly biased in this regard but always thought of education as I described

above.

 

Anne

-------------- Original message ----------------------

" Bob Linde,AP, Herbalist " <boblindeherbalist

> anyone can join, but to be a professional member you have to have a some form

of

> training, letters of recommondation, 4 years clinical experience, and turn in

3

> case studies that are reviewed by a three tiered system of other professional

> members. I know of many people who are turned down. MTs course is a good one

> and to get his recommendation to be a professional member requires that you

> attend 3 of his 10 day intensives the last of which is working in his clinic

> under his direct supervision.

> I know many people who can memorize really well and pass the herb exam and yet

> have no ability to work with herbs. For me, I would choose a professional

member

> to treat me with herbs before another acupuncturist.

> Bob

> www.acuherbals.com

>

> anne.crowley wrote:

> Okay Bob, you may have opened a can of worms for me. Can't you be

> included in the American Herbalist Guild after obtaining a distance degree

such

> as Michael Tierra's 36 lessons for 3 types of herbs, Chinese, Auryvedic, and

> Western. This brings up the question of training again. While you can

certainly

> learn from these programs, I rather prefer someone who has sat in a seat in

> acupuncture school for 1800, 2000 or 2300 hours.

>

> Anne

> -------------- Original message ----------------------

> " Bob Linde,AP, Herbalist " <boblindeherbalist

> > Great article, For those of you in the US I would recommend checking out the

> > American Herbalists Guild www.americanherbalistsguild.com They have a great

> > conference every year, with amazing speakers and they are working hard to

> unify

> > and create a standard for all herbalists regardless of system.

> > Bob

> > www.acuherbals.com

> >

> > <attiliodalberto wrote:

> > Tom,

> >

> > A new European directive was introduced in October 2004, which has to

> > be fully implemented by April 2011. The UK has been quick to

> > implement this law whilst other European countries haven't. But

> > herbal OTC sales have been outlawed. These decisions were made at th

> > European HQ in Belgium!

> >

> > I'm not sure if Belgium uses the same Napolenic laws which means only

> > western MD's can be called doctors or state their ability to treat,

> > but in countries that do use Napolenic law such as France and Spain,

> > herbal medicine will be totally outlawed whether its over the

> > internet or in a clinic. You won't be able to even teach the use of

> > herbs. If you read Stephen Gascoigne's column a few issues ago in

> > Times, he states how this is affecting herbalists in

> > France.

> >

> > I suggest you read the EU herbal regulation article again, carefully

> > http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/section.php?xSec=132 If European

> > countries do not introduce legislation to protect the title of

> > herbalist (which also involves introducing regulation for herbal

> > medicine), the practice of herbal medicine will be outlawed under the

> > new European directive.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Attilio

> > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com

> >

> > Chinese Medicine , " Tom Verhaeghe "

> > <tom.verhaeghe wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > I'm not so sure if selling herbs (online) has been outlawed across

> > Europe.

> > > Many websites are active, and no changes have been made to Belgian

> > law

> > > applying to herbs. I don't see that this kind of thing can happen

> > without

> > > much media and public attention.

> > > I'm not sure if outlawing sales of herbs is in fact progress, I

> > respectfully

> > > disagree with Attilio on this matter. If we follow this reasoning,

> > all OTC

> > > medicines should be outlawed, right?

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > Tom.

> > >

> > > ----

> > >

> > > Bob Linde,AP, Herbalist

> > > 29/01/2007 14:58:39

> > > Chinese Medicine

> > > Re: Internet herb store

> > >

> > > amazing since I usually think of Europe as being more liberal than

> > the US.

> > > To think they would outlaw plant medicine is surprising. Have they

> > outlawed

> > > all medicinal herbs or just chinese?

> > > Bob

> > > www.acuherbals.com

> > >

> > > <attiliodalberto wrote:

> > > Selling patents and/or raw herbs online is now illegal in Europe,

> > for

> > > more info see http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/section.php?

> > > xSec=132.

> > >

> > > As i've said on another forum, i'm sure the US will follow and

> > > introduce regulation to govern herbal medicine. It's progress.

> > >

> > > Attilio

> > > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com

> > >

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> > >

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