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Hi all - I've been snared (through a patient with a whiplash injury)

by the insurance industry, which I've assiduously avoided. Now I need

to know what CPT (?) code to submit with the bills. (The insurance co

doesn't seem to know; how confident am I of being paid?)

 

I saw the pnt 2x/wk for roughly 12 weeks, straight up acupuncture - no

electro, no herbs, no cupping, just needles.

 

Thanks for your help, all you daring souls who have decided to join

that dance.

 

Karen

 

ps the patient has fully recovered; outcome still uncertain for the

practitioner... ;-)

 

 

Karen R. Adams

Lic Ac, Dipl Ac, BA(Hons), BS

Four Directions Healing Arts

112 Avenue A

Turners Falls, MA 01376

413-863-8033

413-768-8333

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this is great, thanks so much. Do you only charge for 15 min

treatments? Eg:

 

1st visit:

97810 first 15 min - intake? or is this the check-in for every visit?

97811 nest 15 min - begin treatment/insert needles

then what? I saw this patient for 45 min - 1 hr (needles in and

'cooking' for at least 45 min)

 

and the codes for the subsequent 23 treatments are...

 

Barbara, I think I'll accept your offer to send me an example bill; you

can do off list if you like.

 

Karen

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Karen,

 

I've used the same codes over and over for all the visits. You would

have one 97810 and three 97811 for each hour visit, or two 97811 for 45

min.

 

Christopher Vedeler L.Ac., C.Ht.

Oasis Acupuncture

http://www.oasisacupuncture.com

8233 N. Via Paseo del Norte

Suite D-35

Scottsdale, AZ 85258

Phone: (480) 991-3650

 

 

 

Chinese Medicine

Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of karen

Wednesday, July 19, 2006 6:58 PM

Chinese Medicine

re: insurance fun

 

 

 

this is great, thanks so much. Do you only charge for 15 min

treatments? Eg:

 

1st visit:

97810 first 15 min - intake? or is this the check-in for every visit?

97811 nest 15 min - begin treatment/insert needles

then what? I saw this patient for 45 min - 1 hr (needles in and

'cooking' for at least 45 min)

 

and the codes for the subsequent 23 treatments are...

 

Barbara, I think I'll accept your offer to send me an example bill; you

can do off list if you like.

 

Karen

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi,

 

I use 723.1 Cervicalgia for all neck related pain.

I work with a medical billing company and never had a problem with that code.

We also bill for moxa, tui na etc. and have started to get paid for some of

them. :)

 

Elie

 

 

 

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so what codes do you use for those...anybody using codes for herbs?

Bob

www.acuherbals.com

 

Elie Goldschmidt <elieg1969 wrote:

Hi,

 

I use 723.1 Cervicalgia for all neck related pain.

I work with a medical billing company and never had a problem with that code.

We also bill for moxa, tui na etc. and have started to get paid for some of

them. :)

 

Elie

 

 

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What's the code you used for Tui Na?

 

Mike L.

 

Elie Goldschmidt <elieg1969 wrote:

Hi,

 

I use 723.1 Cervicalgia for all neck related pain.

I work with a medical billing company and never had a problem with that code.

We also bill for moxa, tui na etc. and have started to get paid for some of

them. :)

 

Elie

 

 

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Hey Bob and Mike,

I put moxa and heat lamp under the same code for infrared heat 97026

Tui Na is manual therapy 97140

 

We only charge 5% if your interested in our billing service.

Either way, good luck with it.

Elie

 

 

 

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