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I changed the subject for this thread.

 

Alon,

Is this a book? Is the acup protocol

discussed?

Marian

 

 

Alon wrote:

>Re: Moringa-Morinda

Posted by: " "

alonmarcus alonmarcus2003

Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:57 am (PST)

Somatosensory cortical plasticity in carpal

tunnel syndrome treated by acupuncture. Hum

Brain Mapp. 2006 Jun 7;. Carpal tunnel

syndrome (CTS) is a common entrapment

neuropathy of the median nerve characterized

by paresthesias and pain in the first through

fourth digits. We hypothesize that aberrant

afferent input from CTS will lead to

maladaptive cortical plasticity, which may be

corrected by appropriate therapy. Functional

MRI (fMRI) scanning and clinical testing was

performed on CTS patients at baseline and

after 5 weeks of acupuncture treatment. As a

control, healthy adults were also tested 5

weeks apart. During fMRI, sensory stimulation

was performed for median nerve innervated

digit 2 (D2) and digit 3 (D3), and ulnar

nerve innervated digit 5 (D5). Surface-based

and region of interest (ROI)-based analyses

demonstrated that while the extent of fMRI

activity in contralateral Brodmann Area 1 (BA

1) and BA 4 was increased in CTS compared to

healthy adults, after acupuncture there was a

significant decrease in contralateral BA 1 (P

< 0.005) and BA 4 (P < 0.05) activity during

D3 sensory stimulation. Healthy adults

demonstrated no significant test-retest

differences for any digit tested. While D3/D2

separation was contracted or blurred in CTS

patients compared to healthy adults, the D2

SI representation shifted laterally after

acupuncture treatment, leading to increased

D3/D2 separation. Increasing D3/D2 separation

correlated with decreasing paresthesias in

CTS patients (P < 0.05). As CTS-induced

paresthesias constitute diffuse,

synchronized, multidigit symptomatology, our

results for maladaptive change and correction

are consistent with Hebbian plasticity

mechanisms. Acupuncture, a somatosensory

conditioning stimulus, shows promise in

inducing beneficial cortical plasticity

manifested by more focused digital

representations. Hum Brain Mapp, 2006. ©

2006 Wiley-Liss, Inc.

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Its a abstract from pubmed

 

 

 

 

Oakland, CA 94609

 

 

-

Marian Blum

Chinese Medicine

Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:57 PM

CTS research

 

 

 

I changed the subject for this thread.

 

Alon,

Is this a book? Is the acup protocol

discussed?

Marian

 

Alon wrote:

>Re: Moringa-Morinda

Posted by: " "

alonmarcus alonmarcus2003

Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:57 am (PST)

Somatosensory cortical plasticity in carpal

tunnel syndrome treated by acupuncture. Hum

Brain Mapp. 2006 Jun 7;. Carpal tunnel

syndrome (CTS) is a common entrapment

neuropathy of the median nerve characterized

by paresthesias and pain in the first through

fourth digits. We hypothesize that aberrant

afferent input from CTS will lead to

maladaptive cortical plasticity, which may be

corrected by appropriate therapy. Functional

MRI (fMRI) scanning and clinical testing was

performed on CTS patients at baseline and

after 5 weeks of acupuncture treatment. As a

control, healthy adults were also tested 5

weeks apart. During fMRI, sensory stimulation

was performed for median nerve innervated

digit 2 (D2) and digit 3 (D3), and ulnar

nerve innervated digit 5 (D5). Surface-based

and region of interest (ROI)-based analyses

demonstrated that while the extent of fMRI

activity in contralateral Brodmann Area 1 (BA

1) and BA 4 was increased in CTS compared to

healthy adults, after acupuncture there was a

significant decrease in contralateral BA 1 (P

< 0.005) and BA 4 (P < 0.05) activity during

D3 sensory stimulation. Healthy adults

demonstrated no significant test-retest

differences for any digit tested. While D3/D2

separation was contracted or blurred in CTS

patients compared to healthy adults, the D2

SI representation shifted laterally after

acupuncture treatment, leading to increased

D3/D2 separation. Increasing D3/D2 separation

correlated with decreasing paresthesias in

CTS patients (P < 0.05). As CTS-induced

paresthesias constitute diffuse,

synchronized, multidigit symptomatology, our

results for maladaptive change and correction

are consistent with Hebbian plasticity

mechanisms. Acupuncture, a somatosensory

conditioning stimulus, shows promise in

inducing beneficial cortical plasticity

manifested by more focused digital

representations. Hum Brain Mapp, 2006. ©

2006 Wiley-Liss, Inc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hello Marian,

 

i'd be happy to answer any questions. the acupuncture protocol was

semi-individualized and mostly local / meridian based treatment

approach. this is from the text of the paper:

 

" Acupuncture was performed by experienced practitioners on CTS

patients over a 5 week period, after baseline clinical and fMRI

evaluation. Treatments were provided 3 times per week for three weeks

and 2 times per week for the remaining two weeks. A semi-

individualized approach was used wherein every subject was treated

for 10 minutes with 2Hz electro-acupuncture at common acupoints

(Figure 1) - unilateral TW-5 (triple-warmer 5, dorsal aspect of

forearm) to PC-7 (pericardium 7, 1st wrist crease). This was followed

by manual needling at acupoints chosen by the practitioner that were

based on the individual symptoms of the presenting patient. Three

points were chosen out of the following six: HT-3 (heart 3, medial

aspect of elbow), PC-3 (pericardium 3, medial aspect of elbow

crease), SI-4 (small intestine 4, ulnar aspect of wrist), LI-5 (large

intestine 5, radial aspect of wrist), LI-10 (large intestine 10,

lateral aspect of forearm), LU-5 (lung 5, lateral aspect of elbow

crease). These points were stimulated with a manual even needle

technique where a deqi response was obtained. "

 

the pdf is not out yet, but i'll put it here once i get it:

http://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/~vitaly/

 

best regards,

-vitaly napadow

 

 

Chinese Medicine , " Marian Blum "

<chinesemed wrote:

>

>

> I changed the subject for this thread.

>

> Alon,

> Is this a book? Is the acup protocol

> discussed?

> Marian

>

>

> Alon wrote:

> >Re: Moringa-Morinda

> Posted by: " "

> alonmarcus alonmarcus2003

> Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:57 am (PST)

> Somatosensory cortical plasticity in carpal

> tunnel syndrome treated by acupuncture. Hum

> Brain Mapp. 2006 Jun 7;. Carpal tunnel

> syndrome (CTS) is a common entrapment

> neuropathy of the median nerve characterized

> by paresthesias and pain in the first through

> fourth digits. We hypothesize that aberrant

> afferent input from CTS will lead to

> maladaptive cortical plasticity, which may be

> corrected by appropriate therapy. Functional

> MRI (fMRI) scanning and clinical testing was

> performed on CTS patients at baseline and

> after 5 weeks of acupuncture treatment. As a

> control, healthy adults were also tested 5

> weeks apart. During fMRI, sensory stimulation

> was performed for median nerve innervated

> digit 2 (D2) and digit 3 (D3), and ulnar

> nerve innervated digit 5 (D5). Surface-based

> and region of interest (ROI)-based analyses

> demonstrated that while the extent of fMRI

> activity in contralateral Brodmann Area 1 (BA

> 1) and BA 4 was increased in CTS compared to

> healthy adults, after acupuncture there was a

> significant decrease in contralateral BA 1 (P

> < 0.005) and BA 4 (P < 0.05) activity during

> D3 sensory stimulation. Healthy adults

> demonstrated no significant test-retest

> differences for any digit tested. While D3/D2

> separation was contracted or blurred in CTS

> patients compared to healthy adults, the D2

> SI representation shifted laterally after

> acupuncture treatment, leading to increased

> D3/D2 separation. Increasing D3/D2 separation

> correlated with decreasing paresthesias in

> CTS patients (P < 0.05). As CTS-induced

> paresthesias constitute diffuse,

> synchronized, multidigit symptomatology, our

> results for maladaptive change and correction

> are consistent with Hebbian plasticity

> mechanisms. Acupuncture, a somatosensory

> conditioning stimulus, shows promise in

> inducing beneficial cortical plasticity

> manifested by more focused digital

> representations. Hum Brain Mapp, 2006. ©

> 2006 Wiley-Liss, Inc.

>

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Vitaly,

 

A few questions:

 

Why work on the ulnar nerve distribution in CTS patients?

Were the manually-stimulated needles retained?

 

Do you think it important to pass the 2hz between dorsal and ventral

aspects (TW5-PC7)--perhaps in order to encompass the nerve itself

rather than 'just' the meridians?

 

Can your conclusions be stated in more vernacular language? I only

understand enough to see this is very cool research.

 

I'll look for the pdf in the future.

 

thank you,

Marian

 

 

Chinese Medicine , " napadov "

<napadov wrote:

>

> Hello Marian,

>

> i'd be happy to answer any questions. the acupuncture protocol was

> semi-individualized and mostly local / meridian based treatment

> approach. this is from the text of the paper:

>

> " Acupuncture was performed by experienced practitioners on CTS

> patients over a 5 week period, after baseline clinical and fMRI

> evaluation. Treatments were provided 3 times per week for three

weeks

> and 2 times per week for the remaining two weeks. A semi-

> individualized approach was used wherein every subject was treated

> for 10 minutes with 2Hz electro-acupuncture at common acupoints

> (Figure 1) - unilateral TW-5 (triple-warmer 5, dorsal aspect of

> forearm) to PC-7 (pericardium 7, 1st wrist crease). This was

followed

> by manual needling at acupoints chosen by the practitioner that

were

> based on the individual symptoms of the presenting patient. Three

> points were chosen out of the following six: HT-3 (heart 3, medial

> aspect of elbow), PC-3 (pericardium 3, medial aspect of elbow

> crease), SI-4 (small intestine 4, ulnar aspect of wrist), LI-5

(large

> intestine 5, radial aspect of wrist), LI-10 (large intestine 10,

> lateral aspect of forearm), LU-5 (lung 5, lateral aspect of elbow

> crease). These points were stimulated with a manual even needle

> technique where a deqi response was obtained. "

>

> the pdf is not out yet, but i'll put it here once i get it:

> http://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/~vitaly/

>

> best regards,

> -vitaly napadow

>

>

> Chinese Medicine , " Marian Blum "

> <chinesemed@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > I changed the subject for this thread.

> >

> > Alon,

> > Is this a book? Is the acup protocol

> > discussed?

> > Marian

> >

> >

> > Alon wrote:

> > >Re: Moringa-Morinda

> > Posted by: " "

> > alonmarcus@ alonmarcus2003

> > Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:57 am (PST)

> > Somatosensory cortical plasticity in carpal

> > tunnel syndrome treated by acupuncture. Hum

> > Brain Mapp. 2006 Jun 7;. Carpal tunnel

> > syndrome (CTS) is a common entrapment

> > neuropathy of the median nerve characterized

> > by paresthesias and pain in the first through

> > fourth digits. We hypothesize that aberrant

> > afferent input from CTS will lead to

> > maladaptive cortical plasticity, which may be

> > corrected by appropriate therapy. Functional

> > MRI (fMRI) scanning and clinical testing was

> > performed on CTS patients at baseline and

> > after 5 weeks of acupuncture treatment. As a

> > control, healthy adults were also tested 5

> > weeks apart. During fMRI, sensory stimulation

> > was performed for median nerve innervated

> > digit 2 (D2) and digit 3 (D3), and ulnar

> > nerve innervated digit 5 (D5). Surface-based

> > and region of interest (ROI)-based analyses

> > demonstrated that while the extent of fMRI

> > activity in contralateral Brodmann Area 1 (BA

> > 1) and BA 4 was increased in CTS compared to

> > healthy adults, after acupuncture there was a

> > significant decrease in contralateral BA 1 (P

> > < 0.005) and BA 4 (P < 0.05) activity during

> > D3 sensory stimulation. Healthy adults

> > demonstrated no significant test-retest

> > differences for any digit tested. While D3/D2

> > separation was contracted or blurred in CTS

> > patients compared to healthy adults, the D2

> > SI representation shifted laterally after

> > acupuncture treatment, leading to increased

> > D3/D2 separation. Increasing D3/D2 separation

> > correlated with decreasing paresthesias in

> > CTS patients (P < 0.05). As CTS-induced

> > paresthesias constitute diffuse,

> > synchronized, multidigit symptomatology, our

> > results for maladaptive change and correction

> > are consistent with Hebbian plasticity

> > mechanisms. Acupuncture, a somatosensory

> > conditioning stimulus, shows promise in

> > inducing beneficial cortical plasticity

> > manifested by more focused digital

> > representations. Hum Brain Mapp, 2006. ©

> > 2006 Wiley-Liss, Inc.

> >

>

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ulnar nerve: are you refering to why SI-4 was included? it was there

as an alternate point depending on individual patient presentation.

theoretically all polyneuropathy patients are excluded from nerve

conduction studies beforehand, but sometimes patients still report

pain/tingling to pinky finger or ulnar side of hand...

 

the manually stimulated needles were retained for full 30min during

treatments.

 

for EA, that was the general point; to pass stimulation through the

arm. however, from a TCM point of view, you are promoting the natural

flow of qi and connection from hand jue yin (PC) to hand shao yang

(TW) meridians.

 

basically, our conclusions are that CTS is not just present in the

wrist. There is a concomittant mal-adaptive change in the cortex of

the brain as well. Successful treatment with acupuncture seems to

produce not just an amelioration of symptoms, but also a positive

change in the brain as well. So acupuncture can imporve both the

peripheral (wrist) and central (brain) components of CTS. we're hpoing

to follow this up and explore some related hypotheses in the future

with help (funding) from NIH...

 

so, stay tuned. research progress is unfotunately glacially slow...

wish i could change that, but....

 

vitaly

 

 

Chinese Medicine , " marianpblac "

<chinesemed wrote:

>

> Vitaly,

>

> A few questions:

>

> Why work on the ulnar nerve distribution in CTS patients?

> Were the manually-stimulated needles retained?

>

> Do you think it important to pass the 2hz between dorsal and ventral

> aspects (TW5-PC7)--perhaps in order to encompass the nerve itself

> rather than 'just' the meridians?

>

> Can your conclusions be stated in more vernacular language? I only

> understand enough to see this is very cool research.

>

> I'll look for the pdf in the future.

>

> thank you,

> Marian

>

>

> Chinese Medicine , " napadov "

> <napadov@> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Marian,

> >

> > i'd be happy to answer any questions. the acupuncture protocol was

> > semi-individualized and mostly local / meridian based treatment

> > approach. this is from the text of the paper:

> >

> > " Acupuncture was performed by experienced practitioners on CTS

> > patients over a 5 week period, after baseline clinical and fMRI

> > evaluation. Treatments were provided 3 times per week for three

> weeks

> > and 2 times per week for the remaining two weeks. A semi-

> > individualized approach was used wherein every subject was treated

> > for 10 minutes with 2Hz electro-acupuncture at common acupoints

> > (Figure 1) - unilateral TW-5 (triple-warmer 5, dorsal aspect of

> > forearm) to PC-7 (pericardium 7, 1st wrist crease). This was

> followed

> > by manual needling at acupoints chosen by the practitioner that

> were

> > based on the individual symptoms of the presenting patient. Three

> > points were chosen out of the following six: HT-3 (heart 3, medial

> > aspect of elbow), PC-3 (pericardium 3, medial aspect of elbow

> > crease), SI-4 (small intestine 4, ulnar aspect of wrist), LI-5

> (large

> > intestine 5, radial aspect of wrist), LI-10 (large intestine 10,

> > lateral aspect of forearm), LU-5 (lung 5, lateral aspect of elbow

> > crease). These points were stimulated with a manual even needle

> > technique where a deqi response was obtained. "

> >

> > the pdf is not out yet, but i'll put it here once i get it:

> > http://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/~vitaly/

> >

> > best regards,

> > -vitaly napadow

> >

> >

> > Chinese Medicine , " Marian Blum "

> > <chinesemed@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > I changed the subject for this thread.

> > >

> > > Alon,

> > > Is this a book? Is the acup protocol

> > > discussed?

> > > Marian

> > >

> > >

> > > Alon wrote:

> > > >Re: Moringa-Morinda

> > > Posted by: " "

> > > alonmarcus@ alonmarcus2003

> > > Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:57 am (PST)

> > > Somatosensory cortical plasticity in carpal

> > > tunnel syndrome treated by acupuncture. Hum

> > > Brain Mapp. 2006 Jun 7;. Carpal tunnel

> > > syndrome (CTS) is a common entrapment

> > > neuropathy of the median nerve characterized

> > > by paresthesias and pain in the first through

> > > fourth digits. We hypothesize that aberrant

> > > afferent input from CTS will lead to

> > > maladaptive cortical plasticity, which may be

> > > corrected by appropriate therapy. Functional

> > > MRI (fMRI) scanning and clinical testing was

> > > performed on CTS patients at baseline and

> > > after 5 weeks of acupuncture treatment. As a

> > > control, healthy adults were also tested 5

> > > weeks apart. During fMRI, sensory stimulation

> > > was performed for median nerve innervated

> > > digit 2 (D2) and digit 3 (D3), and ulnar

> > > nerve innervated digit 5 (D5). Surface-based

> > > and region of interest (ROI)-based analyses

> > > demonstrated that while the extent of fMRI

> > > activity in contralateral Brodmann Area 1 (BA

> > > 1) and BA 4 was increased in CTS compared to

> > > healthy adults, after acupuncture there was a

> > > significant decrease in contralateral BA 1 (P

> > > < 0.005) and BA 4 (P < 0.05) activity during

> > > D3 sensory stimulation. Healthy adults

> > > demonstrated no significant test-retest

> > > differences for any digit tested. While D3/D2

> > > separation was contracted or blurred in CTS

> > > patients compared to healthy adults, the D2

> > > SI representation shifted laterally after

> > > acupuncture treatment, leading to increased

> > > D3/D2 separation. Increasing D3/D2 separation

> > > correlated with decreasing paresthesias in

> > > CTS patients (P < 0.05). As CTS-induced

> > > paresthesias constitute diffuse,

> > > synchronized, multidigit symptomatology, our

> > > results for maladaptive change and correction

> > > are consistent with Hebbian plasticity

> > > mechanisms. Acupuncture, a somatosensory

> > > conditioning stimulus, shows promise in

> > > inducing beneficial cortical plasticity

> > > manifested by more focused digital

> > > representations. Hum Brain Mapp, 2006. ©

> > > 2006 Wiley-Liss, Inc.

> > >

> >

>

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Vitaly,

 

Is there a reason why you didn't use EA for longer than 10 minutes?

I usually use EA 20 mins, often with mixed hz-2to100 to get more

types of responses.

 

I see the TCM rationale: P7 source point and TB5 luo point.

 

Thanks for the further explanation. I wonder whether the peripheral

nerve impingement feeds back to the brain to, in effect, maintain or

exacerbate the perception of the impingement? Lots of interesting

hypotheses to explore ... if you're patient.

 

Marian

 

 

Chinese Medicine , " napadov "

<napadov wrote:

>

>

> ulnar nerve: are you refering to why SI-4 was included? it was

there

> as an alternate point depending on individual patient presentation.

> theoretically all polyneuropathy patients are excluded from nerve

> conduction studies beforehand, but sometimes patients still report

> pain/tingling to pinky finger or ulnar side of hand...

>

> the manually stimulated needles were retained for full 30min during

> treatments.

>

> for EA, that was the general point; to pass stimulation through the

> arm. however, from a TCM point of view, you are promoting the

natural flow of qi and connection from hand jue yin (PC) to hand

shao yang TW) meridians.

>

> basically, our conclusions are that CTS is not just present in the

> wrist. There is a concomittant mal-adaptive change in the cortex of

> the brain as well. Successful treatment with acupuncture seems to

> produce not just an amelioration of symptoms, but also a positive

> change in the brain as well. So acupuncture can imporve both the

> peripheral (wrist) and central (brain) components of CTS. we're

hpoing

> to follow this up and explore some related hypotheses in the future

> with help (funding) from NIH...

>

> so, stay tuned. research progress is unfotunately glacially slow...

> wish i could change that, but....

>

> vitaly

>

>

> Chinese Medicine , " marianpblac "

> <chinesemed@> wrote:

> >

> > Vitaly,

> >

> > A few questions:

> >

> > Why work on the ulnar nerve distribution in CTS patients?

> > Were the manually-stimulated needles retained?

> >

> > Do you think it important to pass the 2hz between dorsal and

ventral

> > aspects (TW5-PC7)--perhaps in order to encompass the nerve

itself

> > rather than 'just' the meridians?

> >

> > Can your conclusions be stated in more vernacular language? I

only

> > understand enough to see this is very cool research.

> >

> > I'll look for the pdf in the future.

> >

> > thank you,

> > Marian

> >

> >

> > Chinese Medicine , " napadov "

> > <napadov@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello Marian,

> > >

> > > i'd be happy to answer any questions. the acupuncture protocol

was

> > > semi-individualized and mostly local / meridian based

treatment

> > > approach. this is from the text of the paper:

> > >

> > > " Acupuncture was performed by experienced practitioners on CTS

> > > patients over a 5 week period, after baseline clinical and

fMRI

> > > evaluation. Treatments were provided 3 times per week for

three

> > weeks

> > > and 2 times per week for the remaining two weeks. A semi-

> > > individualized approach was used wherein every subject was

treated

> > > for 10 minutes with 2Hz electro-acupuncture at common

acupoints

> > > (Figure 1) - unilateral TW-5 (triple-warmer 5, dorsal aspect

of

> > > forearm) to PC-7 (pericardium 7, 1st wrist crease). This was

> > followed

> > > by manual needling at acupoints chosen by the practitioner

that

> > were

> > > based on the individual symptoms of the presenting patient.

Three

> > > points were chosen out of the following six: HT-3 (heart 3,

medial

> > > aspect of elbow), PC-3 (pericardium 3, medial aspect of elbow

> > > crease), SI-4 (small intestine 4, ulnar aspect of wrist), LI-5

> > (large

> > > intestine 5, radial aspect of wrist), LI-10 (large intestine

10,

> > > lateral aspect of forearm), LU-5 (lung 5, lateral aspect of

elbow

> > > crease). These points were stimulated with a manual even

needle

> > > technique where a deqi response was obtained. "

> > >

> > > the pdf is not out yet, but i'll put it here once i get it:

> > > http://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/~vitaly/

> > >

> > > best regards,

> > > -vitaly napadow

> > >

> > >

> > > Chinese Medicine , " Marian

Blum "

> > > <chinesemed@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I changed the subject for this thread.

> > > >

> > > > Alon,

> > > > Is this a book? Is the acup protocol

> > > > discussed?

> > > > Marian

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Alon wrote:

> > > > >Re: Moringa-Morinda

> > > > Posted by: " "

> > > > alonmarcus@ alonmarcus2003

> > > > Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:57 am (PST)

> > > > Somatosensory cortical plasticity in carpal

> > > > tunnel syndrome treated by acupuncture. Hum

> > > > Brain Mapp. 2006 Jun 7;. Carpal tunnel

> > > > syndrome (CTS) is a common entrapment

> > > > neuropathy of the median nerve characterized

> > > > by paresthesias and pain in the first through

> > > > fourth digits. We hypothesize that aberrant

> > > > afferent input from CTS will lead to

> > > > maladaptive cortical plasticity, which may be

> > > > corrected by appropriate therapy. Functional

> > > > MRI (fMRI) scanning and clinical testing was

> > > > performed on CTS patients at baseline and

> > > > after 5 weeks of acupuncture treatment. As a

> > > > control, healthy adults were also tested 5

> > > > weeks apart. During fMRI, sensory stimulation

> > > > was performed for median nerve innervated

> > > > digit 2 (D2) and digit 3 (D3), and ulnar

> > > > nerve innervated digit 5 (D5). Surface-based

> > > > and region of interest (ROI)-based analyses

> > > > demonstrated that while the extent of fMRI

> > > > activity in contralateral Brodmann Area 1 (BA

> > > > 1) and BA 4 was increased in CTS compared to

> > > > healthy adults, after acupuncture there was a

> > > > significant decrease in contralateral BA 1 (P

> > > > < 0.005) and BA 4 (P < 0.05) activity during

> > > > D3 sensory stimulation. Healthy adults

> > > > demonstrated no significant test-retest

> > > > differences for any digit tested. While D3/D2

> > > > separation was contracted or blurred in CTS

> > > > patients compared to healthy adults, the D2

> > > > SI representation shifted laterally after

> > > > acupuncture treatment, leading to increased

> > > > D3/D2 separation. Increasing D3/D2 separation

> > > > correlated with decreasing paresthesias in

> > > > CTS patients (P < 0.05). As CTS-induced

> > > > paresthesias constitute diffuse,

> > > > synchronized, multidigit symptomatology, our

> > > > results for maladaptive change and correction

> > > > are consistent with Hebbian plasticity

> > > > mechanisms. Acupuncture, a somatosensory

> > > > conditioning stimulus, shows promise in

> > > > inducing beneficial cortical plasticity

> > > > manifested by more focused digital

> > > > representations. Hum Brain Mapp, 2006. ©

> > > > 2006 Wiley-Liss, Inc.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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the general idea was to not be too stimulating - hence the lower

frequency and shorter duration (needles were retained for longer after

EA). our protoocl was designed mainly by a senior acupuncturist (not

me) who prefers gentle stimulation.

 

Chronic pain, by the way, is certainly maintained in the brain. in

many chronic pain conditions, the originating peripheral lesion is

improved or even resolved, but the brain circuitry is wound-up in such

a way that the perception of pain remains and is now maintained by

brain circuitry... In CTS, the peripheral lesion is still probably

there and is reflected by changed brain circuitry. perhaps if you can

attack the brain hyperactivation (by needling points away from the

wrist) it can indeed modify the severity of the originating lesion at

the wrist by such things as autonomic anti-inflammatory reflexes

etc... this remains to be seen...

 

vitaly

 

 

Chinese Medicine , " marianpblac "

<chinesemed wrote:

>

> Vitaly,

>

> Is there a reason why you didn't use EA for longer than 10 minutes?

> I usually use EA 20 mins, often with mixed hz-2to100 to get more

> types of responses.

>

> I see the TCM rationale: P7 source point and TB5 luo point.

>

> Thanks for the further explanation. I wonder whether the peripheral

> nerve impingement feeds back to the brain to, in effect, maintain or

> exacerbate the perception of the impingement? Lots of interesting

> hypotheses to explore ... if you're patient.

>

> Marian

>

>

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I have found many cases where pain from peripheral nerve lesions is

exacerbated by EA. I'll turn down the intensity but leave frequency

and length of treatment the same and that usually works. I'll try

shorter time.

 

I wonder whether scalp acupuncture has been studied--whether it has

particular effects on autonomic reflexes. Does its proximity to the

brain mean its effects on it are more direct, or more effective than

body acupuncture?

 

Marian

 

 

Chinese Medicine , " napadov "

<napadov wrote:

>

> the general idea was to not be too stimulating - hence the lower

> frequency and shorter duration (needles were retained for longer

after

> EA). our protoocl was designed mainly by a senior acupuncturist

(not

> me) who prefers gentle stimulation.

>

> Chronic pain, by the way, is certainly maintained in the brain. in

> many chronic pain conditions, the originating peripheral lesion is

> improved or even resolved, but the brain circuitry is wound-up in

such

> a way that the perception of pain remains and is now maintained by

> brain circuitry... In CTS, the peripheral lesion is still probably

> there and is reflected by changed brain circuitry. perhaps if you

can

> attack the brain hyperactivation (by needling points away from the

> wrist) it can indeed modify the severity of the originating lesion

at

> the wrist by such things as autonomic anti-inflammatory reflexes

> etc... this remains to be seen...

>

> vitaly

>

>

> Chinese Medicine , " marianpblac "

> <chinesemed@> wrote:

> >

> > Vitaly,

> >

> > Is there a reason why you didn't use EA for longer than 10

minutes?

> > I usually use EA 20 mins, often with mixed hz-2to100 to get more

> > types of responses.

> >

> > I see the TCM rationale: P7 source point and TB5 luo point.

> >

> > Thanks for the further explanation. I wonder whether the

peripheral

> > nerve impingement feeds back to the brain to, in effect,

maintain or

> > exacerbate the perception of the impingement? Lots of

interesting

> > hypotheses to explore ... if you're patient.

> >

> > Marian

> >

> >

>

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I think hand points may have a stronger central (brain) effects because of the

hands large representation. I use them often in nerve pains. I almost never use

local EA on any neuropathic type pain, especially at the start of treatment.

What is find most important for CTS is to use the above techniques while at the

same time use manual techniques to release the wrist, use functional and fluid

techniques. Also, use retinacular release i will show you them in the next

course.

 

 

 

 

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Re: CTS research

 

 

I have found many cases where pain from peripheral nerve lesions is

exacerbated by EA. I'll turn down the intensity but leave frequency

and length of treatment the same and that usually works. I'll try

shorter time.

 

I wonder whether scalp acupuncture has been studied--whether it has

particular effects on autonomic reflexes. Does its proximity to the

brain mean its effects on it are more direct, or more effective than

body acupuncture?

 

Marian

 

Chinese Medicine , " napadov "

<napadov wrote:

>

> the general idea was to not be too stimulating - hence the lower

> frequency and shorter duration (needles were retained for longer

after

> EA). our protoocl was designed mainly by a senior acupuncturist

(not

> me) who prefers gentle stimulation.

>

> Chronic pain, by the way, is certainly maintained in the brain. in

> many chronic pain conditions, the originating peripheral lesion is

> improved or even resolved, but the brain circuitry is wound-up in

such

> a way that the perception of pain remains and is now maintained by

> brain circuitry... In CTS, the peripheral lesion is still probably

> there and is reflected by changed brain circuitry. perhaps if you

can

> attack the brain hyperactivation (by needling points away from the

> wrist) it can indeed modify the severity of the originating lesion

at

> the wrist by such things as autonomic anti-inflammatory reflexes

> etc... this remains to be seen...

>

> vitaly

>

>

> Chinese Medicine , " marianpblac "

> <chinesemed@> wrote:

> >

> > Vitaly,

> >

> > Is there a reason why you didn't use EA for longer than 10

minutes?

> > I usually use EA 20 mins, often with mixed hz-2to100 to get more

> > types of responses.

> >

> > I see the TCM rationale: P7 source point and TB5 luo point.

> >

> > Thanks for the further explanation. I wonder whether the

peripheral

> > nerve impingement feeds back to the brain to, in effect,

maintain or

> > exacerbate the perception of the impingement? Lots of

interesting

> > hypotheses to explore ... if you're patient.

> >

> > Marian

> >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I have been using a protocol for CTS that I found in a Chinese article. The

translated title of the article is " horizontal unidirectional needling in

treatment of 48 cases of CTS " , published in Chinese Acupuncture and

Moxibustion, Aug 2002, Vol. 22, No. 8, p. 550. It was written by Peng

Jiang-Hua.

 

The technique has worked really well on my CTS patients, so I thought I'd

share it to the group.

 

I have uploaded a file to the files/ articles/ acupuncture section of the

that shows a picture of the extra points used in this protocol.

 

The points clearly aim to reduce pressure in the carpal tunnel, and they do

so by " loosening and elongating the retinaculum flexorum, increasing its

elasticity, and increasing the volume of the carpal tunnel and decreasing

pressure on the n. medianus in the carpal tunnel. "

 

 

Location of the points: (look at the picture that I uploaded)

let the patient make a fist and you can see three lines (lines between the

fingers). We don't need the middle " line " but we need the line between the

index and middle finger = line B, and the line between the ring finger and

the little finger= line A.

At the proximal side, point A1 is to be found where line A crosses the

hypothenar, and A2 is to be found appr. 2 cm distally.

And again proximally, point B1 is to be found where line B crosses the

thenar bulge, and B2 2 cm distal from there.

You will notice that these four points are the attchachments of the

retinaculum flexorum.

 

Technique:

Needle the four points like in the picture; needles are to be inserted

horizontally, facing each other. First needle perpendicularly, and then move

to a 15 degree angle (so that the needles are almost horizontal).

Insert the needles appr 0.8 cms deep.

 

After insertion, manipulate the needles in pairs:

 

for the A points, the practitioner stands on the ulnar side: right hand

grasps the A2 needle, left hand graps A1 needle. Right hand turns the needle

clockwise, and the left hand turns the needle counterclockwise, so that the

needles move in the same direction. You twist the needles rapidly and until

you feel you cannot twist the needle any further. Then tape the needles to

the palm, or let an assistant hold the needles horizontally.

 

for the B points, the practitioner stands on the radial side: right hand

grasps the B1 needle, left hand graps B2 needle. Right hand turns the needle

clockwise, and the left hand turns the needle counterclockwise, so that the

needles move in the same direction. You twist the needles rapidly and until

you feel you cannot twist the needle any further. Then tape the needles to

the palm, or hold the needles horizontally.

 

After 20 minutes of releasing the retinaculum with the previous technique,

remove the needles and apply some three minutes of mild moxibustion to each

of the four points, until some redness appears.

 

Treatment may be done every day (in China, yes), 10 treatments make up one

course, if necessary start a second course.

 

Needless to say that results were excellent : ) only 2 people got no

benefit of this treatment (4.2%). 45.8% cured. and 50% markedly better.

 

Anyway, I have used the technique with success in my clinic. Even after one

time people report significant benefit. I just met a patient today on the

street, whom I treated only one time. She felt so good that she forgot to

make a new appointment. She said she could still feel some numbness, but she

could easily sleep through the night. Other patients also report benefit.

Make sure your technique is good for needling the four points. Better tell

them beforehand it possibly might hurt a bit - don't forget the patient

still has a good hand to strike you : )

I sometimes combine this with (deep) needling on Daling PC7.

 

Hope all of this is clear; if you want to read the original in Chinese,

please send me an email...

 

Greetings from a sunny Belgium,

 

Tom.

 

 

.

 

 

 

 

 

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Sunday, June 18, 2006 9:51 AM

Re: Re: CTS research

 

 

I have been using a protocol for CTS that I found in a Chinese article. The

translated title of the article is " horizontal unidirectional needling in

treatment of 48 cases of CTS " , published in Chinese Acupuncture and

Moxibustion, Aug 2002, Vol. 22, No. 8, p. 550. It was written by Peng

Jiang-Hua.

 

The technique has worked really well on my CTS patients, so I thought I'd

share it to the group.

 

I have uploaded a file to the files/ articles/ acupuncture section of the

that shows a picture of the extra points used in this protocol.

 

The points clearly aim to reduce pressure in the carpal tunnel, and they do

so by " loosening and elongating the retinaculum flexorum, increasing its

elasticity, and increasing the volume of the carpal tunnel and decreasing

pressure on the n. medianus in the carpal tunnel. "

 

 

Location of the points: (look at the picture that I uploaded)

let the patient make a fist and you can see three lines (lines between the

fingers). We don't need the middle " line " but we need the line between the

index and middle finger = line B, and the line between the ring finger and

the little finger= line A.

At the proximal side, point A1 is to be found where line A crosses the

hypothenar, and A2 is to be found appr. 2 cm distally.

And again proximally, point B1 is to be found where line B crosses the

thenar bulge, and B2 2 cm distal from there.

You will notice that these four points are the attchachments of the

retinaculum flexorum.

 

Technique:

Needle the four points like in the picture; needles are to be inserted

horizontally, facing each other. First needle perpendicularly, and then move

to a 15 degree angle (so that the needles are almost horizontal).

Insert the needles appr 0.8 cms deep.

 

After insertion, manipulate the needles in pairs:

 

for the A points, the practitioner stands on the ulnar side: right hand

grasps the A2 needle, left hand graps A1 needle. Right hand turns the needle

clockwise, and the left hand turns the needle counterclockwise, so that the

needles move in the same direction. You twist the needles rapidly and until

you feel you cannot twist the needle any further. Then tape the needles to

the palm, or let an assistant hold the needles horizontally.

 

for the B points, the practitioner stands on the radial side: right hand

grasps the B1 needle, left hand graps B2 needle. Right hand turns the needle

clockwise, and the left hand turns the needle counterclockwise, so that the

needles move in the same direction. You twist the needles rapidly and until

you feel you cannot twist the needle any further. Then tape the needles to

the palm, or hold the needles horizontally.

 

After 20 minutes of releasing the retinaculum with the previous technique,

remove the needles and apply some three minutes of mild moxibustion to each

of the four points, until some redness appears.

 

Treatment may be done every day (in China, yes), 10 treatments make up one

course, if necessary start a second course.

 

Needless to say that results were excellent : ) only 2 people got no

benefit of this treatment (4.2%). 45.8% cured. and 50% markedly better.

 

Anyway, I have used the technique with success in my clinic. Even after one

time people report significant benefit. I just met a patient today on the

street, whom I treated only one time. She felt so good that she forgot to

make a new appointment. She said she could still feel some numbness, but she

could easily sleep through the night. Other patients also report benefit.

Make sure your technique is good for needling the four points. Better tell

them beforehand it possibly might hurt a bit - don't forget the patient

still has a good hand to strike you : )

I sometimes combine this with (deep) needling on Daling PC7.

 

Hope all of this is clear; if you want to read the original in Chinese,

please send me an email...

 

Greetings from a sunny Belgium,

 

Tom.

 

 

.

 

 

 

 

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which direction are the line supposed to be?

 

 

 

 

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Sunday, June 18, 2006 9:51 AM

Re: Re: CTS research

 

 

I have been using a protocol for CTS that I found in a Chinese article. The

translated title of the article is " horizontal unidirectional needling in

treatment of 48 cases of CTS " , published in Chinese Acupuncture and

Moxibustion, Aug 2002, Vol. 22, No. 8, p. 550. It was written by Peng

Jiang-Hua.

 

The technique has worked really well on my CTS patients, so I thought I'd

share it to the group.

 

I have uploaded a file to the files/ articles/ acupuncture section of the

that shows a picture of the extra points used in this protocol.

 

The points clearly aim to reduce pressure in the carpal tunnel, and they do

so by " loosening and elongating the retinaculum flexorum, increasing its

elasticity, and increasing the volume of the carpal tunnel and decreasing

pressure on the n. medianus in the carpal tunnel. "

 

 

Location of the points: (look at the picture that I uploaded)

let the patient make a fist and you can see three lines (lines between the

fingers). We don't need the middle " line " but we need the line between the

index and middle finger = line B, and the line between the ring finger and

the little finger= line A.

At the proximal side, point A1 is to be found where line A crosses the

hypothenar, and A2 is to be found appr. 2 cm distally.

And again proximally, point B1 is to be found where line B crosses the

thenar bulge, and B2 2 cm distal from there.

You will notice that these four points are the attchachments of the

retinaculum flexorum.

 

Technique:

Needle the four points like in the picture; needles are to be inserted

horizontally, facing each other. First needle perpendicularly, and then move

to a 15 degree angle (so that the needles are almost horizontal).

Insert the needles appr 0.8 cms deep.

 

After insertion, manipulate the needles in pairs:

 

for the A points, the practitioner stands on the ulnar side: right hand

grasps the A2 needle, left hand graps A1 needle. Right hand turns the needle

clockwise, and the left hand turns the needle counterclockwise, so that the

needles move in the same direction. You twist the needles rapidly and until

you feel you cannot twist the needle any further. Then tape the needles to

the palm, or let an assistant hold the needles horizontally.

 

for the B points, the practitioner stands on the radial side: right hand

grasps the B1 needle, left hand graps B2 needle. Right hand turns the needle

clockwise, and the left hand turns the needle counterclockwise, so that the

needles move in the same direction. You twist the needles rapidly and until

you feel you cannot twist the needle any further. Then tape the needles to

the palm, or hold the needles horizontally.

 

After 20 minutes of releasing the retinaculum with the previous technique,

remove the needles and apply some three minutes of mild moxibustion to each

of the four points, until some redness appears.

 

Treatment may be done every day (in China, yes), 10 treatments make up one

course, if necessary start a second course.

 

Needless to say that results were excellent : ) only 2 people got no

benefit of this treatment (4.2%). 45.8% cured. and 50% markedly better.

 

Anyway, I have used the technique with success in my clinic. Even after one

time people report significant benefit. I just met a patient today on the

street, whom I treated only one time. She felt so good that she forgot to

make a new appointment. She said she could still feel some numbness, but she

could easily sleep through the night. Other patients also report benefit.

Make sure your technique is good for needling the four points. Better tell

them beforehand it possibly might hurt a bit - don't forget the patient

still has a good hand to strike you : )

I sometimes combine this with (deep) needling on Daling PC7.

 

Hope all of this is clear; if you want to read the original in Chinese,

please send me an email...

 

Greetings from a sunny Belgium,

 

Tom.

 

 

.

 

 

 

 

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Well, when you look at the picture the rotation of the needling is in the

direction of the palm. So not outwardly but inwardly.

How does the technique work? Perhaps by breaking adhesions so that the

retinaculum releases?

 

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i am asking about locating the points, i am not sure how you locate lines A and

B

 

 

 

 

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Re: Re: CTS research

 

 

 

Well, when you look at the picture the rotation of the needling is in the

direction of the palm. So not outwardly but inwardly.

How does the technique work? Perhaps by breaking adhesions so that the

retinaculum releases?

 

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I see, just follow the " lines " BETWEEN 2nd and 3rd finger, and 4th and 5th

finger (= the line that extends from proximal to distal phalanx). You can

either extend or flex the fingers; the phalangeal line stays the same.

I know, it is not a common " line " to use in anatomy, but that is the

description used in the article.

 

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i am asking about locating the points, i am not sure how you locate lines A

and B

 

 

 

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with threading, do you mean through-needling?

 

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Threading from p6 into p7 (into the tunnel) also gets great results.

 

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Sunday, June 18, 2006 9:20 PM

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I see, just follow the " lines " BETWEEN 2nd and 3rd finger, and 4th and 5th

finger (= the line that extends from proximal to distal phalanx). You can

either extend or flex the fingers; the phalangeal line stays the same.

I know, it is not a common " line " to use in anatomy, but that is the

description used in the article.

 

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P6 to p7 into the carpal space with the median nevre under the

flexor retinaculum.

 

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>

>

> Kevin,

>

> with threading, do you mean through-needling?

>

> Tom.

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> Threading from p6 into p7 (into the tunnel) also gets great

results.

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By the way the photo and description of the points are distal to the flexor

retinaculum in the thenar and hypothenar muscle

 

 

 

 

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Chinese Medicine

Sunday, June 18, 2006 9:51 AM

Re: Re: CTS research

 

 

I have been using a protocol for CTS that I found in a Chinese article. The

translated title of the article is " horizontal unidirectional needling in

treatment of 48 cases of CTS " , published in Chinese Acupuncture and

Moxibustion, Aug 2002, Vol. 22, No. 8, p. 550. It was written by Peng

Jiang-Hua.

 

The technique has worked really well on my CTS patients, so I thought I'd

share it to the group.

 

I have uploaded a file to the files/ articles/ acupuncture section of the

that shows a picture of the extra points used in this protocol.

 

The points clearly aim to reduce pressure in the carpal tunnel, and they do

so by " loosening and elongating the retinaculum flexorum, increasing its

elasticity, and increasing the volume of the carpal tunnel and decreasing

pressure on the n. medianus in the carpal tunnel. "

 

 

Location of the points: (look at the picture that I uploaded)

let the patient make a fist and you can see three lines (lines between the

fingers). We don't need the middle " line " but we need the line between the

index and middle finger = line B, and the line between the ring finger and

the little finger= line A.

At the proximal side, point A1 is to be found where line A crosses the

hypothenar, and A2 is to be found appr. 2 cm distally.

And again proximally, point B1 is to be found where line B crosses the

thenar bulge, and B2 2 cm distal from there.

You will notice that these four points are the attchachments of the

retinaculum flexorum.

 

Technique:

Needle the four points like in the picture; needles are to be inserted

horizontally, facing each other. First needle perpendicularly, and then move

to a 15 degree angle (so that the needles are almost horizontal).

Insert the needles appr 0.8 cms deep.

 

After insertion, manipulate the needles in pairs:

 

for the A points, the practitioner stands on the ulnar side: right hand

grasps the A2 needle, left hand graps A1 needle. Right hand turns the needle

clockwise, and the left hand turns the needle counterclockwise, so that the

needles move in the same direction. You twist the needles rapidly and until

you feel you cannot twist the needle any further. Then tape the needles to

the palm, or let an assistant hold the needles horizontally.

 

for the B points, the practitioner stands on the radial side: right hand

grasps the B1 needle, left hand graps B2 needle. Right hand turns the needle

clockwise, and the left hand turns the needle counterclockwise, so that the

needles move in the same direction. You twist the needles rapidly and until

you feel you cannot twist the needle any further. Then tape the needles to

the palm, or hold the needles horizontally.

 

After 20 minutes of releasing the retinaculum with the previous technique,

remove the needles and apply some three minutes of mild moxibustion to each

of the four points, until some redness appears.

 

Treatment may be done every day (in China, yes), 10 treatments make up one

course, if necessary start a second course.

 

Needless to say that results were excellent : ) only 2 people got no

benefit of this treatment (4.2%). 45.8% cured. and 50% markedly better.

 

Anyway, I have used the technique with success in my clinic. Even after one

time people report significant benefit. I just met a patient today on the

street, whom I treated only one time. She felt so good that she forgot to

make a new appointment. She said she could still feel some numbness, but she

could easily sleep through the night. Other patients also report benefit.

Make sure your technique is good for needling the four points. Better tell

them beforehand it possibly might hurt a bit - don't forget the patient

still has a good hand to strike you : )

I sometimes combine this with (deep) needling on Daling PC7.

 

Hope all of this is clear; if you want to read the original in Chinese,

please send me an email...

 

Greetings from a sunny Belgium,

 

Tom.

 

 

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I also noticed that B2 and A2 are not really located on the retinaculum,

but A1 and B1 are, won't you agree?And if you needle B2 and A2 in a proximal

direction, don't you still reach the retinaculum?

 

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Tom

By the way the photo and description of the points are distal to the flexor

retinaculum in the thenar and hypothenar muscle

 

 

 

 

Oakland, CA 94609

 

 

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Sunday, June 18, 2006 9:51 AM

Re: Re: CTS research

 

I have been using a protocol for CTS that I found in a Chinese article. The

translated title of the article is " horizontal unidirectional needling in

treatment of 48 cases of CTS " , published in Chinese Acupuncture and

Moxibustion, Aug 2002, Vol. 22, No. 8, p. 550. It was written by Peng

Jiang-Hua.

 

The technique has worked really well on my CTS patients, so I thought I'd

share it to the group.

 

I have uploaded a file to the files/ articles/ acupuncture section of the

that shows a picture of the extra points used in this protocol.

 

The points clearly aim to reduce pressure in the carpal tunnel, and they do

so by " loosening and elongating the retinaculum flexorum, increasing its

elasticity, and increasing the volume of the carpal tunnel and decreasing

pressure on the n. medianus in the carpal tunnel. "

 

Location of the points: (look at the picture that I uploaded)

let the patient make a fist and you can see three lines (lines between the

fingers). We don't need the middle " line " but we need the line between the

index and middle finger = line B, and the line between the ring finger and

the little finger= line A.

At the proximal side, point A1 is to be found where line A crosses the

hypothenar, and A2 is to be found appr. 2 cm distally.

And again proximally, point B1 is to be found where line B crosses the

thenar bulge, and B2 2 cm distal from there.

You will notice that these four points are the attchachments of the

retinaculum flexorum.

 

Technique:

Needle the four points like in the picture; needles are to be inserted

horizontally, facing each other. First needle perpendicularly, and then move

to a 15 degree angle (so that the needles are almost horizontal).

Insert the needles appr 0.8 cms deep.

 

After insertion, manipulate the needles in pairs:

 

for the A points, the practitioner stands on the ulnar side: right hand

grasps the A2 needle, left hand graps A1 needle. Right hand turns the needle

clockwise, and the left hand turns the needle counterclockwise, so that the

needles move in the same direction. You twist the needles rapidly and until

you feel you cannot twist the needle any further. Then tape the needles to

the palm, or let an assistant hold the needles horizontally.

 

for the B points, the practitioner stands on the radial side: right hand

grasps the B1 needle, left hand graps B2 needle. Right hand turns the needle

clockwise, and the left hand turns the needle counterclockwise, so that the

needles move in the same direction. You twist the needles rapidly and until

you feel you cannot twist the needle any further. Then tape the needles to

the palm, or hold the needles horizontally.

 

After 20 minutes of releasing the retinaculum with the previous technique,

remove the needles and apply some three minutes of mild moxibustion to each

of the four points, until some redness appears.

 

Treatment may be done every day (in China, yes), 10 treatments make up one

course, if necessary start a second course.

 

Needless to say that results were excellent : ) only 2 people got no

benefit of this treatment (4.2%). 45.8% cured. and 50% markedly better.

 

Anyway, I have used the technique with success in my clinic. Even after one

time people report significant benefit. I just met a patient today on the

street, whom I treated only one time. She felt so good that she forgot to

make a new appointment. She said she could still feel some numbness, but she

could easily sleep through the night. Other patients also report benefit.

Make sure your technique is good for needling the four points. Better tell

them beforehand it possibly might hurt a bit - don't forget the patient

still has a good hand to strike you : )

I sometimes combine this with (deep) needling on Daling PC7.

 

Hope all of this is clear; if you want to read the original in Chinese,

please send me an email...

 

Greetings from a sunny Belgium,

 

Tom.

 

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not if the picture is correct and its hard to know from the description

 

 

 

 

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Monday, June 19, 2006 12:24 PM

Re: Re: CTS research

 

 

I also noticed that B2 and A2 are not really located on the retinaculum,

but A1 and B1 are, won't you agree?And if you needle B2 and A2 in a proximal

direction, don't you still reach the retinaculum?

 

Tom.

 

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Tom

By the way the photo and description of the points are distal to the flexor

retinaculum in the thenar and hypothenar muscle

 

 

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Chinese Medicine

Sunday, June 18, 2006 9:51 AM

Re: Re: CTS research

 

I have been using a protocol for CTS that I found in a Chinese article. The

translated title of the article is " horizontal unidirectional needling in

treatment of 48 cases of CTS " , published in Chinese Acupuncture and

Moxibustion, Aug 2002, Vol. 22, No. 8, p. 550. It was written by Peng

Jiang-Hua.

 

The technique has worked really well on my CTS patients, so I thought I'd

share it to the group.

 

I have uploaded a file to the files/ articles/ acupuncture section of the

that shows a picture of the extra points used in this protocol.

 

The points clearly aim to reduce pressure in the carpal tunnel, and they do

so by " loosening and elongating the retinaculum flexorum, increasing its

elasticity, and increasing the volume of the carpal tunnel and decreasing

pressure on the n. medianus in the carpal tunnel. "

 

Location of the points: (look at the picture that I uploaded)

let the patient make a fist and you can see three lines (lines between the

fingers). We don't need the middle " line " but we need the line between the

index and middle finger = line B, and the line between the ring finger and

the little finger= line A.

At the proximal side, point A1 is to be found where line A crosses the

hypothenar, and A2 is to be found appr. 2 cm distally.

And again proximally, point B1 is to be found where line B crosses the

thenar bulge, and B2 2 cm distal from there.

You will notice that these four points are the attchachments of the

retinaculum flexorum.

 

Technique:

Needle the four points like in the picture; needles are to be inserted

horizontally, facing each other. First needle perpendicularly, and then move

to a 15 degree angle (so that the needles are almost horizontal).

Insert the needles appr 0.8 cms deep.

 

After insertion, manipulate the needles in pairs:

 

for the A points, the practitioner stands on the ulnar side: right hand

grasps the A2 needle, left hand graps A1 needle. Right hand turns the needle

clockwise, and the left hand turns the needle counterclockwise, so that the

needles move in the same direction. You twist the needles rapidly and until

you feel you cannot twist the needle any further. Then tape the needles to

the palm, or let an assistant hold the needles horizontally.

 

for the B points, the practitioner stands on the radial side: right hand

grasps the B1 needle, left hand graps B2 needle. Right hand turns the needle

clockwise, and the left hand turns the needle counterclockwise, so that the

needles move in the same direction. You twist the needles rapidly and until

you feel you cannot twist the needle any further. Then tape the needles to

the palm, or hold the needles horizontally.

 

After 20 minutes of releasing the retinaculum with the previous technique,

remove the needles and apply some three minutes of mild moxibustion to each

of the four points, until some redness appears.

 

Treatment may be done every day (in China, yes), 10 treatments make up one

course, if necessary start a second course.

 

Needless to say that results were excellent : ) only 2 people got no

benefit of this treatment (4.2%). 45.8% cured. and 50% markedly better.

 

Anyway, I have used the technique with success in my clinic. Even after one

time people report significant benefit. I just met a patient today on the

street, whom I treated only one time. She felt so good that she forgot to

make a new appointment. She said she could still feel some numbness, but she

could easily sleep through the night. Other patients also report benefit.

Make sure your technique is good for needling the four points. Better tell

them beforehand it possibly might hurt a bit - don't forget the patient

still has a good hand to strike you : )

I sometimes combine this with (deep) needling on Daling PC7.

 

Hope all of this is clear; if you want to read the original in Chinese,

please send me an email...

 

Greetings from a sunny Belgium,

 

Tom.

 

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I'd still think that at least A1 and B1 are located on the retinaculum: for

example, compare the picture on this page http://tinyurl.com/ne4ny with the

one I uploaded

 

 

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i guess a better description would be for the proximal points to start at the

crease of the wrist

 

 

 

 

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Monday, June 19, 2006 12:56 PM

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I'd still think that at least A1 and B1 are located on the retinaculum: for

example, compare the picture on this page http://tinyurl.com/ne4ny with the

one I uploaded

 

 

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Those needles are in the abducto pollicis brevis, flexor pollicis

brevis, opponensdigiti minimi, and flexor digiti minimi brevis

which all attach to the retinaculum flexorum.

 

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