Osteoporosis

[Guest guest]

Dear Group,

Thank you for all of your suggestions. I appreciate your help greatly.

I will write more later.

Have a Happy New Year!

Love,

Rhavda

>Rhavda,

> It must be so hard to see your mother slip away from what you are used

>to knowing her.

>Osteoporosis, once advanced can be 'arrested' with drugs, etc, but the

>brittle bone mass still will be there, maybe spinal fractures can be

>avoided, but a bad fall still can fracture the hip or arms..

>I already broke my hip and the recovery has been slow and nasty. A

>limp, constant pain and a good amount of frustration are steady

>companions. I can not do the low impact exercises that help the bones

>best with the right amount of medication, may it be herbal of allopathic.

>BUT, I can do the pool.

[Guest guest]

Hi Majid & All,

 

What are the ingredients of Bushen Migu Wan , Tone KI &

Solidify Bone Pill?

 

What are the ingredients of Bushen Migu Ye , Tone KI &

Solidify Bone Liquid?

 

Apparently, they are used to treat osteoporosis.

 

Majid wrote:

> See the following abstracts on osteoporosis, very interesting,

 

The following are my attempts to extract data from http://tinyurl.com/ye5jkd

[Click on Migu in that page and drop the translation into Wenlin for further

processing]:

 

Migu Dan (, Solidify Bone Bolus) is a 10-Chinese Hb (Shiwei

Zhongyao ) formula composed of Buguzhi, Gusuibu, Xuduan,

Chuanxiong, Zhichuanwu, Tougucao, Niuxi, Xixin, etc.

 

What are the two missing herbs? I can only find the names of 8 of the 10

Hbs.

 

Migu Dan can be used as a TOPICAL (Waifu ) OINTMENT applied to

acupoints Shenque Guanyuan CV06-Qihai GV04-

Mingmen BL23-Shenshu BL20-Pishu to treat

osteoporosis, in line with Tx Principle " Support SP & Tone KI (Jianpi

Bushen ), Warm Yang & Free Vessels (Wenyang Tongmai

) " .

 

In TCM Theory, " KI Controls Bone & Generates Marrow (Shen Zhugu

Shengsui ), SP accounts for Post-Heaven & similar Root Issues

(Pi Wei Houtian Zhiben ), controls 4 limbs & whole body (Zhu

Sizhi Baihai ) " .

 

TCM understanding of osteoporosis pathogenesis is a " KI Weakness

(Shenkui) & SP Xu, bone marrow loses nourishment (Gusui Shiyang) " . To

Tx osteoporosis in TCM, one should " Tone & Nourish LV & KI (Buyi

Ganshen ),Strengthen Sinew & Strengthen Bone (Qiangjin

Zhuanggu ) & Free Collaterals & Ease Pain (Tongluo Zhitong

) " .

 

See also: http://www.ehn.clara.net/medicine.html#bonelossherbs

Two Chinese herbal remedies - Bushen Jiangu and Bushen Migu Ye -

reverse postmenopausal bone loss. After three months of the Bushen

Jiangu trial at Union Hospital, Tongji Medical University, 92% of the patients

taking the herb had improved and after six months 69% had significantly

higher bone density of the lumbar vertebrae than before treatment. Patients

in the calcium-treatment control group had actually lost bone density.

 

Similar results were found with Bushen Migu Ye. Confirming the measured

effect, the ratio of fasting urinary calcium and hydroxyproline to creatinine

was lower than before treatment showing that less calcium was leaching

from the body.

 

http://www.cccm.co.uk/herbalmedicine.0.html

 

Shen L, Du JY, Yang JY. [Preliminary clinical study on prevention of bone

loss in postmenopausal women with kidney invigoration][Article in Chinese]

Zhongguo Zhong Xi Yi Jie He Za Zhi. 1994 Sep;14(9):515-8. Xiehe Hospital,

Tongji Medical University, Wuhan. The effect of Bushen Migu Ye (BSMGY)

on preventing the bone loss in postmenopausal women was observed. 43

healthy women with the menopause within 5 years were randomly divided

into the treated and control groups, which were basically similar in age and

menopausal time. BSMGY and Rhizoma Dioscoreae decoction was given

orally in two groups. Some biochemical parameters related to bone

metabolism, serum estradiol and forearm bone density were taken before

and after treatment. The results showed that 5 months after BSMGY

treatment, the ulnar and radial bone mineral content was higher than that of

pretreatmental value (P < 0.05), while in control group this index was

continually decreased. The change in bone density were also significant

different (P < 0.05). It seems that BSMGY is able to prevent the bone loss in

postmenopausal women. In the treated group, ratio of fasting urinary

calcium and hydroxyproline to creatinine was lower than that of before

treatment and the control group (P < 0.05); the concentration of serum

alkaline phosphatase had no significant difference (P < 0.05). This

preliminary study suggested that one of the therapeutic mechanism of

BSMGY was probably due to declining of bone resorption, without affecting

the bone formation in postmenopausal women. PMID: 7865997 [PubMed -

indexed for MEDLINE]

 

See also other abstracts on osteoporosis at http://lib.bioinfo.pl/auid:4664674

and at Medline: http://tinyurl.com/yd4kp9

 

Best regards,

 

HOME + WORK: 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland

Tel: (H): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

<

 

 

 

" Man who says it can't be done should not interrupt man doing it " - Chinese

Proverb

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Majid & All,

 

What are the ingredients of Bushen Migu Wan , Tone KI &

Solidify Bone Pill?

 

What are the ingredients of Bushen Migu Ye , Tone KI &

Solidify Bone Liquid?

 

Apparently, they are used to treat osteoporosis.

 

Majid wrote:

> See the following abstracts on osteoporosis, very interesting,

 

The following are my attempts to extract data from http://tinyurl.com/ye5jkd

[Click on Migu in that page and drop the translation into Wenlin for further

processing]:

 

Migu Dan (, Solidify Bone Bolus) is a 10-Chinese Hb (Shiwei

Zhongyao ) formula composed of Buguzhi, Gusuibu, Xuduan,

Chuanxiong, Zhichuanwu, Tougucao, Niuxi, Xixin, etc.

 

What are the two missing herbs? I can only find the names of 8 of the 10

Hbs.

 

Migu Dan can be used as a TOPICAL (Waifu ) OINTMENT applied to

acupoints Shenque Guanyuan CV06-Qihai GV04-

Mingmen BL23-Shenshu BL20-Pishu to treat

osteoporosis, in line with Tx Principle " Support SP & Tone KI (Jianpi

Bushen ), Warm Yang & Free Vessels (Wenyang Tongmai

) " .

 

In TCM Theory, " KI Controls Bone & Generates Marrow (Shen Zhugu

Shengsui ), SP accounts for Post-Heaven & similar Root Issues

(Pi Wei Houtian Zhiben ), controls 4 limbs & whole body (Zhu

Sizhi Baihai ) " .

 

TCM understanding of osteoporosis pathogenesis is a " KI Weakness

(Shenkui) & SP Xu, bone marrow loses nourishment (Gusui Shiyang) " . To

Tx osteoporosis in TCM, one should " Tone & Nourish LV & KI (Buyi

Ganshen ),Strengthen Sinew & Strengthen Bone (Qiangjin

Zhuanggu ) & Free Collaterals & Ease Pain (Tongluo Zhitong

) " .

 

See also: http://www.ehn.clara.net/medicine.html#bonelossherbs

Two Chinese herbal remedies - Bushen Jiangu and Bushen Migu Ye -

reverse postmenopausal bone loss. After three months of the Bushen

Jiangu trial at Union Hospital, Tongji Medical University, 92% of the patients

taking the herb had improved and after six months 69% had significantly

higher bone density of the lumbar vertebrae than before treatment. Patients

in the calcium-treatment control group had actually lost bone density.

 

Similar results were found with Bushen Migu Ye. Confirming the measured

effect, the ratio of fasting urinary calcium and hydroxyproline to creatinine

was lower than before treatment showing that less calcium was leaching

from the body.

 

http://www.cccm.co.uk/herbalmedicine.0.html

 

Shen L, Du JY, Yang JY. [Preliminary clinical study on prevention of bone

loss in postmenopausal women with kidney invigoration][Article in Chinese]

Zhongguo Zhong Xi Yi Jie He Za Zhi. 1994 Sep;14(9):515-8. Xiehe Hospital,

Tongji Medical University, Wuhan. The effect of Bushen Migu Ye (BSMGY)

on preventing the bone loss in postmenopausal women was observed. 43

healthy women with the menopause within 5 years were randomly divided

into the treated and control groups, which were basically similar in age and

menopausal time. BSMGY and Rhizoma Dioscoreae decoction was given

orally in two groups. Some biochemical parameters related to bone

metabolism, serum estradiol and forearm bone density were taken before

and after treatment. The results showed that 5 months after BSMGY

treatment, the ulnar and radial bone mineral content was higher than that of

pretreatmental value (P < 0.05), while in control group this index was

continually decreased. The change in bone density were also significant

different (P < 0.05). It seems that BSMGY is able to prevent the bone loss in

postmenopausal women. In the treated group, ratio of fasting urinary

calcium and hydroxyproline to creatinine was lower than that of before

treatment and the control group (P < 0.05); the concentration of serum

alkaline phosphatase had no significant difference (P < 0.05). This

preliminary study suggested that one of the therapeutic mechanism of

BSMGY was probably due to declining of bone resorption, without affecting

the bone formation in postmenopausal women. PMID: 7865997 [PubMed -

indexed for MEDLINE]

 

See also other abstracts on osteoporosis at http://lib.bioinfo.pl/auid:4664674

and at Medline: http://tinyurl.com/yd4kp9

 

Best regards,

 

HOME + WORK: 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland

Tel: (H): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

<

 

 

 

" Man who says it can't be done should not interrupt man doing it " - Chinese

Proverb

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Any nutritional and herbal suggestions for osteoporosis.  I just learned I have

that in lumbar area and osteopenia in neck area. Yikes.  I know I have been

busy growing a practice but that was a bit of a shocker.  So any nutritional

suggestions are welcomed.  I am aware of calcium, vit D, and magnesium.  Are

their foods that inhibit it's absorbption in the bone? Is osteoporosis

reversable?

 

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

Anne

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anne C. Crowley, L.Ac., Dipl.Ac.

www.LaPlataAcupuncture.com

 

-

 

Traditional Chinese Herbal Medicine , " TCM "

<Chinese Traditional Medicine >

Friday, June 19, 2009 1:43:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

 feature on longevity valley in Southern China, just north of

Vietnam border

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thought you might enjoy this.

 

China's fountain of youth

www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/Weekend/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

 I have helped many peole regain their bone density and recover completely from

osteo-porosis/penia.

 

 I'd like to briefly get on my soapbox and mention that the more we buy into

western medicine the less we'll be able to do. Who says osteoporosis can't be

reversed? The people who can't reverse it obviously. Ok, off soapbox.

 

 Anne, forget calcium and mag etc. They can help, but they are bandaids. The

solution out of osteo lies in the dx of CM patterns. Again, as far as cal-mag

go, you can dump as much as you want into your body and it will not affect two

crucially important things: 1. the natural maximum rate of bone growth, and 2.

your personal over-expenditure of Nutritive Qi and Yin/Jing.

 

 If you'd like to provide us with your CM pattern information, I am sure we can

come up with a plan that has nothing to do with a cal-mag supplement or vit D

(which you should be getting from sunbathing anyway).

 

 Hugo

 

 

________________________________

Hugo Ramiro

http://middlemedicine.wordpress.com

http://www.chinesemedicaltherapies.org

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Anne Crowley <anne.crowley

Traditional <Chinese Medicine >

Friday, 19 June, 2009 7:49:44

Re: Osteoporosis

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Any nutritional and herbal suggestions for osteoporosis.  I just learned I have

that in lumbar area and osteopenia in neck area. Yikes.  I know I have been busy

growing a practice but that was a bit of a shocker.  So any nutritional

suggestions are welcomed.  I am aware of calcium, vit D, and magnesium.  Are

their foods that inhibit it's absorbption in the bone? Is osteoporosis

reversable?

 

Thanks,

 

Anne

 

Anne C. Crowley, L.Ac., Dipl.Ac.

www.LaPlataAcupunct ure.com

 

-

 

Traditional Chinese Herbal Medicine, " TCM " <traditional_

chinese_medicine >

Friday, June 19, 2009 1:43:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

 feature on longevity valley in Southern China, just north of

Vietnam border

 

Thought you might enjoy this.

 

China's fountain of youth

www.abcnews. go.com/GMA/ Weekend/

 

 

www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net

www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Anne,

Yes there are foods that can prevent absorption of calcium, recommend taking it

away from meals unless this brings on discomfort. Probably the number one thing

here, is weight bearing exercise, as this helps the bone remodel itself under

stress. Many women avoid this form of exercise though.

 

Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc

 

Chinese Medicine

anne.crowley

Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:49:44 +0000

Re: Osteoporosis

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Any nutritional and herbal suggestions for osteoporosis. I just learned I have

that in lumbar area and osteopenia in neck area. Yikes. I know I have been busy

growing a practice but that was a bit of a shocker. So any nutritional

suggestions are welcomed. I am aware of calcium, vit D, and magnesium. Are

their foods that inhibit it's absorbption in the bone? Is osteoporosis

reversable?

 

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

Anne

 

 

 

Anne C. Crowley, L.Ac., Dipl.Ac.

 

www.LaPlataAcupuncture.com

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

Traditional Chinese Herbal Medicine , " TCM "

<Chinese Traditional Medicine >

 

Friday, June 19, 2009 1:43:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

 

feature on longevity valley in Southern China, just north of

Vietnam border

 

 

 

Thought you might enjoy this.

 

 

 

China's fountain of youth

 

www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/Weekend/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Tx, Hugo. I will get back to you when I am at my computer.

Anne

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 

 

Hugo Ramiro <subincor

 

Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:24:36

<Chinese Medicine >

Re: Osteoporosis

 

 

 I have helped many peole regain their bone density and recover completely from

osteo-porosis/penia.

 

 I'd like to briefly get on my soapbox and mention that the more we buy into

western medicine the less we'll be able to do. Who says osteoporosis can't be

reversed? The people who can't reverse it obviously. Ok, off soapbox.

 

 Anne, forget calcium and mag etc. They can help, but they are bandaids. The

solution out of osteo lies in the dx of CM patterns. Again, as far as cal-mag

go, you can dump as much as you want into your body and it will not affect two

crucially important things: 1. the natural maximum rate of bone growth, and 2.

your personal over-expenditure of Nutritive Qi and Yin/Jing.

 

 If you'd like to provide us with your CM pattern information, I am sure we can

come up with a plan that has nothing to do with a cal-mag supplement or vit D

(which you should be getting from sunbathing anyway).

 

 Hugo

 

 

________________________________

Hugo Ramiro

http://middlemedicine.wordpress.com

http://www.chinesemedicaltherapies.org

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Anne Crowley <anne.crowley

Traditional <Chinese Medicine >

Friday, 19 June, 2009 7:49:44

Re: Osteoporosis

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Any nutritional and herbal suggestions for osteoporosis.  I just learned I have

that in lumbar area and osteopenia in neck area. Yikes.  I know I have been busy

growing a practice but that was a bit of a shocker.  So any nutritional

suggestions are welcomed.  I am aware of calcium, vit D, and magnesium.  Are

their foods that inhibit it's absorbption in the bone? Is osteoporosis

reversable?

 

Thanks,

 

Anne

 

Anne C. Crowley, L.Ac., Dipl.Ac.

www.LaPlataAcupunct ure.com

 

-

 

Traditional Chinese Herbal Medicine, " TCM " <traditional_

chinese_medicine >

Friday, June 19, 2009 1:43:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

 feature on longevity valley in Southern China, just north of

Vietnam border

 

Thought you might enjoy this.

 

China's fountain of youth

www.abcnews. go.com/GMA/ Weekend/

 

 

www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net

www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Anne,

 

I would agree with Hugo 100% about the key being to treat based upon your

specific differential diagnosis.  But  I also strongly feel that the role

that insufficient magnesium plays in osteoporosis should not be underestimated,

nor should it be considered a bandaid.  Magnesium delivers calcium to the

bones.  No other nutrient does that. and on the contrary, without magnesium,

calcium accumulates vascularly and poisons the body.  Of course, as we have

spoken of before, and as I have been taught by our wise colleagues on this list,

the right vehicle can make a major difference.  Over the past year or so I have

been encouraging my patients with osteoporosis to take Magnesium glycinate along

with specific dietary modifications (less animal protein which

tends to promote bone loss), increased exercise (walking 300 minutes per week,

minimum, on a daily basis) and, of course herbs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Fri, 6/19/09, Hugo Ramiro <subincor wrote:

 

 

Hugo Ramiro <subincor

Re: Osteoporosis

Chinese Medicine

Friday, June 19, 2009, 6:24 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 I have helped many peole regain their bone density and recover completely from

osteo-porosis/ penia.

 

 I'd like to briefly get on my soapbox and mention that the more we buy into

western medicine the less we'll be able to do. Who says osteoporosis can't be

reversed? The people who can't reverse it obviously. Ok, off soapbox.

 

 Anne, forget calcium and mag etc. They can help, but they are bandaids. The

solution out of osteo lies in the dx of CM patterns. Again, as far as cal-mag

go, you can dump as much as you want into your body and it will not affect two

crucially important things: 1. the natural maximum rate of bone growth, and 2.

your personal over-expenditure of Nutritive Qi and Yin/Jing.

 

 If you'd like to provide us with your CM pattern information, I am sure we can

come up with a plan that has nothing to do with a cal-mag supplement or vit D

(which you should be getting from sunbathing anyway).

 

 Hugo

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Hugo Ramiro

http://middlemedici ne.wordpress. com

http://www.chinesem edicaltherapies. org

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Anne Crowley <anne.crowley@ comcast.net>

Traditional <Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine @.

com>

Friday, 19 June, 2009 7:49:44

Re: Osteoporosis

 

Any nutritional and herbal suggestions for osteoporosis.  I just learned I have

that in lumbar area and osteopenia in neck area. Yikes.  I know I have been busy

growing a practice but that was a bit of a shocker.  So any nutritional

suggestions are welcomed.  I am aware of calcium, vit D, and magnesium.  Are

their foods that inhibit it's absorbption in the bone? Is osteoporosis

reversable?

 

Thanks,

 

Anne

 

Anne C. Crowley, L.Ac., Dipl.Ac.

www.LaPlataAcupunct ure.com

 

-

 

Traditional Chinese Herbal Medicine, " TCM " <traditional_

chinese_medicine >

Friday, June 19, 2009 1:43:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

 feature on longevity valley in Southern China, just north of

Vietnam border

 

Thought you might enjoy this.

 

China's fountain of youth

www.abcnews. go.com/GMA/ Weekend/

 

 

www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net

www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Anne,

 

Health Concerns has several products that address osteoporosis and osteopenia. 

Some are very warming, and others are not.  Check them out.

 

Andrea Beth

 

Traditional Oriental Medicine

Happy Hours in the CALM Center

635 S. 10th St.

Cottonwood, AZ  86326

(928) 274-1373

 

 

--- On Fri, 6/19/09, Anne Crowley <anne.crowley wrote:

 

Anne Crowley <anne.crowley

Re: Osteoporosis

" Traditional "

<Chinese Medicine >

Friday, June 19, 2009, 4:49 AM

 

 

 

Any nutritional and herbal suggestions for osteoporosis.  I just learned I have

that in lumbar area and osteopenia in neck area. Yikes.  I know I have been busy

growing a practice but that was a bit of a shocker.  So any nutritional

suggestions are welcomed.  I am aware of calcium, vit D, and magnesium.  Are

their foods that inhibit it's absorbption in the bone? Is osteoporosis

reversable?

 

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

Anne

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anne C. Crowley, L.Ac., Dipl.Ac.

www.LaPlataAcupuncture.com

 

-

 

Traditional Chinese Herbal Medicine , " TCM "

<Chinese Traditional Medicine >

Friday, June 19, 2009 1:43:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

 feature on longevity valley in Southern China, just north of

Vietnam border

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thought you might enjoy this.

 

China's fountain of youth

www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/Weekend/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Anne,

 

There has been good research lately about bone density losses as a result of

antacids and other stomach acid-reducing medications.  They interfere with the

absorption of minerals.  FYI.

 

Andrea Beth

 

Traditional Oriental Medicine

Happy Hours in the CALM Center

635 S. 10th St.

Cottonwood, AZ  86326

(928) 274-1373

 

 

--- On Fri, 6/19/09, mike Bowser <naturaldoc1 wrote:

 

mike Bowser <naturaldoc1

RE: Osteoporosis

Chinese Traditional Medicine

Friday, June 19, 2009, 7:48 AM

 

 

Anne,

Yes there are foods that can prevent absorption of calcium, recommend taking it

away from meals unless this brings on discomfort.  Probably the number one

thing here, is weight bearing exercise, as this helps the bone remodel itself

under stress.   Many women avoid this form of exercise though. 

 

Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc

 

Chinese Medicine

anne.crowley

Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:49:44 +0000

Re: TCM -  Osteoporosis

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   

           

           

 

 

     

     

 

 

 

Any nutritional and herbal suggestions for osteoporosis.  I just learned I have

that in lumbar area and osteopenia in neck area. Yikes.  I know I have been

busy growing a practice but that was a bit of a shocker.  So any nutritional

suggestions are welcomed.  I am aware of calcium, vit D, and magnesium.  Are

their foods that inhibit it's absorbption in the bone? Is osteoporosis

reversable?

 

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

Anne

 

 

 

Anne C. Crowley, L.Ac., Dipl.Ac.

 

www.LaPlataAcupuncture.com

 

 

 

-

 

 

 

Traditional Chinese Herbal Medicine , " TCM "

<Chinese Traditional Medicine >

 

Friday, June 19, 2009 1:43:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

 

TCM -  feature on longevity valley in Southern China, just north of

Vietnam border

 

 

 

Thought you might enjoy this.

 

 

 

China's fountain of youth

 

www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/Weekend/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Absolutely, Andrea Beth.  But it's both ways:  That which interferes with

mineral absorption (including foods high in phytic and oxalic acid),  diuretics

which also drain out minerals, like coffee and Coke, and foods high in

phosphoric acid, like, as I said, meat and, also, of course,  Coke.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Fri, 6/19/09, < wrote:

 

 

<

RE: Osteoporosis

Chinese Medicine

Friday, June 19, 2009, 9:14 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anne,

 

There has been good research lately about bone density losses as a result of

antacids and other stomach acid-reducing medications.  They interfere with the

absorption of minerals.  FYI.

 

Andrea Beth

 

Traditional Oriental Medicine

Happy Hours in the CALM Center

635 S. 10th St.

Cottonwood, AZ  86326

(928) 274-1373

 

--- On Fri, 6/19/09, mike Bowser <naturaldoc1@ hotmail.com> wrote:

 

mike Bowser <naturaldoc1@ hotmail.com>

RE: Osteoporosis

traditional_ chinese_medicine

Friday, June 19, 2009, 7:48 AM

 

Anne,

Yes there are foods that can prevent absorption of calcium, recommend taking it

away from meals unless this brings on discomfort.  Probably the number one

thing here, is weight bearing exercise, as this helps the bone remodel itself

under stress.   Many women avoid this form of exercise though. 

 

Michael W. Bowser, DC, LAc

 

 

anne.crowley@ comcast.net

Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:49:44 +0000

Re: TCM -  Osteoporosis

 

   

           

           

 

     

     

 

Any nutritional and herbal suggestions for osteoporosis.  I just learned I have

that in lumbar area and osteopenia in neck area. Yikes.  I know I have been

busy growing a practice but that was a bit of a shocker.  So any nutritional

suggestions are welcomed.  I am aware of calcium, vit D, and magnesium.  Are

their foods that inhibit it's absorbption in the bone? Is osteoporosis

reversable?

 

Thanks,

 

Anne

 

Anne C. Crowley, L.Ac., Dipl.Ac.

 

www.LaPlataAcupunct ure.com

 

-

 

 

 

Traditional Chinese Herbal Medicine, " TCM " <traditional_

chinese_medicine >

 

Friday, June 19, 2009 1:43:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern

 

TCM -  feature on longevity valley in Southern China, just north of

Vietnam border

 

Thought you might enjoy this.

 

 

 

China's fountain of youth

 

www.abcnews. go.com/GMA/ Weekend/

 

 

 

www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net

 

www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

These prognoses are based on " the average American. "

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 13:24 +0000, Hugo Ramiro wrote:

> I have helped many peole regain their bone density and recover completely

from osteo-porosis/penia.

>

> I'd like to briefly get on my soapbox and mention that the more we buy into

western medicine the less we'll be able to do. Who says osteoporosis can't be

reversed? The people who can't reverse it obviously. Ok, off soapbox.

>

> Anne, forget calcium and mag etc. They can help, but they are bandaids. The

solution out of osteo lies in the dx of CM patterns. Again, as far as cal-mag

go, you can dump as much as you want into your body and it will not affect two

crucially important things: 1. the natural maximum rate of bone growth, and 2.

your personal over-expenditure of Nutritive Qi and Yin/Jing.

>

> If you'd like to provide us with your CM pattern information, I am sure we

can come up with a plan that has nothing to do with a cal-mag supplement or vit

D (which you should be getting from sunbathing anyway).

>

> Hugo

>

>

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> http://www.chinesemedicaltherapies.org

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> ________________________________

> Anne Crowley <anne.crowley

> Traditional

<Chinese Medicine >

> Friday, 19 June, 2009 7:49:44

> Re: Osteoporosis

>

Any nutritional and herbal suggestions for osteoporosis. I just learned I

have that in lumbar area and osteopenia in neck area. Yikes. I know I have been

busy growing a practice but that was a bit of a shocker. So any nutritional

suggestions are welcomed. I am aware of calcium, vit D, and magnesium. Are

their foods that inhibit it's absorbption in the bone? Is osteoporosis

reversable?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Anne

>

> Anne C. Crowley, L.Ac., Dipl.Ac.

> www.LaPlataAcupunct ure.com

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[Guest guest]

You're most welcome Deb.

I love to help ;o)

In regards the Lemon Egg Formula. This will go a long ways to

preventing AND reversing the condition. Adding Vit D3 would also

contribute to your never getting Osteo. Good on ya for giving up the

coffee. This will also help. The only other thing I'd do would be to

ensure you're not eating too many acid ash foods.

I'll post my pH chart as an attachment to this response.

In Knowledge, Health and Freedom,

Doc

 

Debra Garrett wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Doc,

 

I wanted to again

say thank you for all of

your wonderful advice over the years. Your advice has been so helpful

to

me and my family. We have escaped so many health “pitfalls”

because of your efforts in sharing with us how to be responsible for

our own

health. Thank you._

 

My question

today is on

Osteoporosis. I had a bone density test done several years ago that

said

I have a 90% chance of developing Osteoporosis. Horrors. Not good.

 

If I were to

add the “Lemon-egg

formula” with adding Vit D3 (or does it need to be a different “D?)

to my morning drink routine, would that reverse it? I gave up coffee 4

years ago when I realize it took calcium from ones bones. When I

was a child I had 13 broken arms due to brittle bones. Three years ago

I

had a broken toe that took forever to heal.

 

What else

can I do to shore up the bones?

 

Blessings!!

 

Debra

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Doc Shillington's Food pH Chart.xls

[Guest guest]

Sheree

Google Permaguard diatomaceous earth (DE) they are the first and best source of

DE. Most other distributors get from them.

Melly