Guest guest Report post Posted August 20, 2008 I am so hoping this is true for me. I bought some GABA today to try. Very depressed. Have grief issues going on too. L. -------------- Original message ---------------------- Barbara Battibulli <barbbat > Amen!! I have found this to be true as well. I am a firm believer in GABA and > have had positive results from using it. > > > >>>>>GABA was a real life saver for me and it worked pretty quick. > After experiencing the results of this particular substance, I am > totally convinced that depression is a metabolic condition. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 25, 2008 Hi Sharon, Your email sounds like awesome advice. I've been going through a depressive episode which has mixed features with grief around losing people in my life recently. But when I hit age 60 I really started to have major mental imbalances and lots and lots of anger. I actually had them prior, but they are more pronounced now. From reading our forum over many years, I knew that I was not taking enough omega 3's. So I started increasing those. Then I decided to try GABA. Now I'm taking one a day and don't know if I should increase that. I've been in the process of planning for a liver cleanse because, anyone correct me if thinking is incorrect, the liver does not function optimally if you have lots of gallstones and fatty acids like Omega 3's may not be absorbing into the whole body system as they should be. I also need to do a parasite cleanse and will do that before the liver cleanse. Then I believe liver cleanses need to be done more or less regularly to keep the liver free and performing optimally. I do take Vit. D, but will switch to more absorbable Vit. D3. Thus far I'm feeling quite a bit better as a result of the GABA. I am doing another thing as well. I'm taking pancreatin to help with digestion of proteins, carbos, etc. My digestion had gone into a gastritis type of thing and I'm prone to that. If you start to have gastritis. Dr. William Kelley talks about the use of pancreatin and I'm post cancer 9 years. I'm on also on SJW too at night. I'll look into Pfeiffer book too. Wonder if I should increase GABA. Bottle says take one a day. Thank you!. Linda -------------- Original message ---------------------- " sharonstrahan " <sharonstrahan > Hi Karen, > > I understand exactly where you are coming from. Doctor had told me > with my recurrent depressive episodes I would need to stay on meds for > life. > > I refused to accept that as the last word... Hope you don't mind but > instead of repeating myself I am just going to post links here of my > replies in previous threads: > > This talks about a method which approaches mental illnesses as > biochemical imbalances which can be managed nutritionally: > http://health./message/48998 > > About some supplements: > http://health./message/50699 > http://health./message/52820 > > I live by the Pfeiffer approach now and have been meds free for over 2 > years now. I stay on the diet and I take ALL the supplements, everyday. > > Someone mentioned Vitamin D - I do supplement this also, mostly in > winter now, but was everyday at the beginning of the programme. You > are on the right track with the SJW, SAMe and Omega 3 fatty acids, but > may need other things too. > > EFT also helped me a huge amount to clear out some emotional issues > which were holding me back and which I think also contributed to my > depression. Acupuncture also helped me a great deal. (If your > acupuncturist diagnoses problems with liver chi/meridian, you may want > to consider a liver cleanse too - search this forum for details or > email me and I can tell you what I do). > > I suggest you get your hand on Pfeiffer's book and see if you > think it's relevant for you. Personally I think depression needs to > be approached from a physical AND emotional basis. > > All the best, > Sharon > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 16, 2008 Moderator's Note: Correct, all homeopathic remedies can cause the symptoms they are meant to cure if wrongly matched to the symptoms or taken excessively- something that is called a proving and is the basis of originally determining what a homeopathic remedy will do. And I agree that suicide should not be treated by a layperson or by one's self, unless one is willing to take the risk. It is a difficult position to be in to want to help but not be able to offer an idea because someone, somewhere might do something. ALL information provided here is for research purposes ONLY. And it is understood by the rules that are sent when a member first joins, when they leave, and are repeatedly posted every two weeks that any attempt to use a remedy mentioned here will be fully be at the risk of the member, and it is HIGHLY recommended that said member will completely and throughly research the remedy & holistic system (of any sort, for any thing) to their own satisfaction FIRST. That being said, for me, myself and I, if at anytime I take a remedy for X and X becomes worse, I stop taking the remedy as frequently or if need be- change remedies. For me, myself and I, it is a small worsening- not going for the kitchen knife to slit my wrists or explosive expelling of stomach contents if for a stomach flue- just a small regression that passes in a few minutes. This is something I have learned to observe and I have learned how to act accordingly. Best Wishes, DesertSkyNM ------------- Aurum metallicaum should be given only by an experienced homeopath. It can make people very emotional and can actually trigger suicide attempts. Here's something I sent in reply to another email some minutes ago: The following is part of Dr Jim Howenstine's article " Is Psychiatry Scientific and Dangerous " . http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james58.htm * * *Causes And Therapy Of Depression.* Ten percent of persons visiting physicians in the USA suffer from depression. *Many persons with depression have either undiagnosed hypothyroidism, are lacking omega 3 fatty acids in their diet, or are deficient in vitamin D.* The RDA for vitamin D, at 400 IU daily, is set far below needed levels. Everyone probably needs more than 800 IU daily, and persons with depression or living far from the equator may benefit from 1200 IU or more daily. Correction of any of these three common conditions may eliminate the depression. *Countries with the highest intake of fish have the lowest incidence of depression*. Less than 1% of Japanese, who average 140 pounds of fish annually, have depression whereas 6% of persons in New Zealand are depressed where they eat only forty pounds of fish annually. Fish contain abundant omega 3 fatty acids. *Countries with higher average fish consumption also have lower rates of homicide, bipolar disorder, depression, and suicide*. *What Is Avea?* Turmeric (curcumin) has long been used in Ayurvedic and Chinese medicine as an anti-inflammatory, to treat digestive disorders and liver problems and for the treatment of skin diseases and wound healing. Curcumin stimulates the production of bile and facilitates emptying of the gall bladder. In animals curcumin protects the liver, has anti-tumor action, reduces inflammation and fights some infections. Avea is an extract from the root of Curcuma longa, commonly know as turmeric. Nutramedix has a proprietary formulation of curcumin that is more effective than conventional curcumin because of special extraction and enhancement techniques. The German Commission E reports that curcumin has no known contraindications, no known side effects and no known interactions with other drugs. In May 2005, toxicology studies were completed on Avea at the University of Guayaquil, Ecuador. No toxic effects were seen even when the animals were given doses 160,000 times the equivalent human dose. *Patients suffering from depression often report relief from depression within a few hours to a few days after starting Avea*. A 38 year old woman had been seriously depressed for more than ten years despite therapy with several different pharmaceutical drugs. When started on her first dose of Avea she felt less depressed after thirty minutes. The depression was gone in 24 hours but the therapy was continued. The dosage of Avea is ten to twelve drops three or four times daily. Patients who respond rapidly to Avea should remain on this therapy for one to two months to allow the body to reset neurochemical balances in the brain. Patients who have been taking SSRI drugs should slowly taper off SSRI therapy over many weeks if they wish to terminate SSRI therapy. We think that persons trying Avea for depression will be pleased with this safe rapidly acting therapy. Avea can be obtained from naturalhealthteam.comphone 1-800-416-2806 and from nutramedix.com phone 1-561-745-2917. On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 4:27 AM, ssherryhh46 <ssherryhh46 wrote: > Dear ssherryhh46- > > Like I said, I know it will piss people off, it did me. I did not say " it > ain't so " and " think your way out " , and if it was interpreted that way let > me restate again- the practice is to stop playing with the sticky > non-nuturing thought patterns/emotions and redirect our mind and attentions > to something we do want. Don't interact with those thought patterns/emotions > and become engaged in something that nutures us more. This is actually a > structured practice and if anyone is interested I would recommend: > > > If there is a possibility of suicide- which I don't remember the original > poster mentioning then look at homeopathic Aurum Metallicum. > > This life long issue has led me to consider at some point, to some degree I > have to look at myself and how I use my mind. I find that a much more > empowering statement than just take xxx. > > It is fine if we disagree. > ------- > > There comes a time in some people's lives that > just saying " it aint so " won't cut it. You think most depressed > people haven't thought about thinking your way out of the " well " ? > Everyone has a right to their opinion and mine is that your's is NOT > always right. There might be some poor soul who will give up on > themself and end it all because they were not able to think their way > into feeling " good " . > > --- In <%40gro\ ups.com>, > " desertskynm " > <desertskynm wrote: > > > > Ok, let me tell you what others have told me- it is not pleasant at > > first hearing (at least for me at the time)- the best way to stop > being > > depressed is to STOP. > > > > But how do I do that- was my first question. You just make a > conscious > > decision that you will no longer entertain thoughts of being > > depressed. Are we are feelings? Do we have authority over where > we > > direct our minds? > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 25, 2009 Certainly spending time in the sun and sea is a great anti-depressant because of the vitamin D and the stimulation of the pineal gland - no dark glasses and no sun block. Also, adrenalin and exhaustion are great anti-depressants. I once walked a failed love affair out of my system - kept walking in the mountains for eight hours. Felt great the next day. Also skiing is probably the best natural high I know. I know about long term depression - these are not flippant suggestions Jonathan Jonathan Chamberlain www.fightingcancer.com --- On Sat, 1/24/09, backupemail108 <backupemail108 wrote: backupemail108 <backupemail108 << >> Re: depression Saturday, January 24, 2009, 1:21 AM Alternative- Medicine- Forum@ s.com, " bubbles_is_ kool " <bubbles_is_ kool wrote: > > i'm on celexa right now for depression. but i'm wondering if there is > anything natural t Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 26, 2009 Hi, I am all too familiar with depression. Did your doctor rule out any thyroid problems before putting you on celexa? _____ On Behalf Of backupemail108 Friday, January 23, 2009 8:22 PM << >> Re: depression Alternative- <%40> Medicine-Forum , " bubbles_is_kool " <bubbles_is_kool wrote: > > i'm on celexa right now for depression. but i'm wondering if there is > anything natural that would work to help with my depression so i don't > have to take meds? thanx. > > PixiFairy > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 26, 2009 Participate in some daily exercise. It doesn't have to be a major marathon or hours long. Even ten minutes of walking will lift your mood. Look at your diet. Do some research on organic raw food meal plans. Leave off the sugar and processed food. Check out some supplements. Eat an apple or some blueberries if you are not allergic. Drink more water. Enjoy some tulsi tea with peppermint. If you can swing it financially and medically, get a pet! My fur-kids bring me great joy. Get out of the house, too. Sunshine is an amazing tonic. Sunrise is my personal favorite. To feel that first ray of light on my face in the morning is exhilarating! Most importantly, talk to people when you are feeling down and let them help you through the most difficult times. In joy, Ravija Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 23, 2009 There is some decent evidence that depression can also be linked to pathogens. I used to have it terribly myself, anxiety, the works, and when I say it was severe, I mean it WAS severe (meaning...both in intensity, and in PAST TENSE). :-) I would at least give some alternative options a try, such as MMS. The increased bio-available oxygenation makes a person feel good for starters, and it's ability to detoxify and rid the body of many pathogens might...get rid of some of the mental issue. These kinds of protocols worked wonders for me. I am literally almost never depressed anymore, where ten years ago it was a daily misery. Then supplemental Vitamin D, Glutamine, cod liver oil, maple syrup/aluminum-free baking soda, a quality CoQ10 and stuff like this are great ways to maintain an UP attitude. Tim......youtube/facelessfatloss In the Moment. --- On Thu, 5/21/09, carolreeves280 <carolreeves280 wrote: carolreeves280 <carolreeves280 << >> Re: Depression Thursday, May 21, 2009, 9:10 AM Works great for me but now I am just on B12 every day it works wonders and I haven't had a prescribed med for depression in over two years did a tapering off about two years ago with my Dr's help he slowly reduced the meds dosage etc.. Alternative- Medicine- Forum@ s.com, " Elizabeth " <chazepping@ ....> wrote: > > > Hi Janet, > > Please look up folinic acid and B-Complex (need to take them together). > It has worked wonders for me. > Kind regards, > > Elizabeth in Spain > > Alternative- Medicine- Forum@ s.com, " Janet358 " <janetforstr@ > wrote: > > > > I was diagnosed about 4 years ago with major depression. I was put on so much medication I don't know how I functioned. I have since changed doctors and am only on 3 meds now. I have so many negative things going on in my life right now and feel it is too much to handle. I just want to sleep or go run away . I don't want the doc to increase my meds. I think I should be able to deal with lives ups and downs. I am basically a very strong person. I was divorced in OC from an abusive alcoholic. I since met a great guy but don't know if things are going to work out. I want to quit my job cause someone there has a very bad attitude towards me and I find it extremely hard to deal with any kind of controversy. I don't know if I can handle this ll on my own. I feel I am going into a depression again. I can't and don't want to go through that again. Any advice? Please! > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites