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What amount(s) constitutes " large doses of vitamin C " ?

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Physicians giving large doses of vitamin C have had striking success in

reversing depression. It is a remarkably safe and inexpensive approach to try.

 

 

 

 

 

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Please have your vitamin D levels checked as soon as possible and also

have your thyroid checked and iodine levels if the Dr. will do that

test... but ask for the results on all your tests and discuss the

results with other medical professional to get a second opinion because

many docs will say levels to both are fine when there is controversy

about what is optimal... so maybe your doc thinks it is fine but another

doc would still put you on vit D or iodine because of symptoms showing

a need for optimal levels within your system.

 

I take Vitamin D and if I miss for too long I too become very depressed.

I was on prozac for a couple years at a very strong dose and started to

have side-effects. I am so glad I found vitamin D and iodine helps me

as well.

 

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Hi Ravenflight,

 

You may find useful information at:

*The Road Back*. How to withdrawal off psychotropic medication

*...*<http://www.theroadback.org/>

*The Road Back* - How to Get Off Drugs Safely. Drug withdrawal program.

www.the*road**back*.org/

 

Glutamine, an amino acid, is necessary to produce glutathione.

 

The Analyst - Internet Health Report: Treatment:

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*Glutamine*: A non-essential amino acid, *glutamine* is considered to be a

brain fuel. *Glutamine* has been used therapeutically for alcoholism, mild *

depression* *...*

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*Glutamine* promotes mental ability and maintenance of a healthy digestive

tract. Potential therapeutic uses of *Glutamine*: 1.-*Depression* and Mood

Disorders. *...*

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On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:28 PM, ravenflight393 <ravenflight393wrote:

 

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I found it necessary to go off antidepressants. I had been taking them

> for Obsessive compulsive disorder. Since going off of them about 2

> months ago I have become extremely depressed. I have often been

> depressed because I am disabled and have a very difficult life but I

> have never experienced anything like this. This goes way beyond that

> previous unhappiness. I beleive that withdrawal itself produced the

> problem. But since it has been a little more than 2 months now I am

> afraid that the drugs caused permanenet brain damage and that I will

> never be O.k. again. I feel so empty inside. I force myself to

> function but it doesn't releive the emptiness and I am unable to get

> interested in anything. I have always loved to read for instance but I

> can't read anymore,reading seems pointless. I think about killing

> myself everyday and research methods to do so because when I am

> planning suicide is the only time I feel some hope of controlling my

> own fate and stopping the emptiness and the pain. Circumstances

> prevent me from seeking counseling. Does anyone know anything that

> might help?

>

>

>

 

 

 

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Just found this:

http://www.revolutionhealth.com/healthy-living/mens-

health/mind/depression/fishing-good-mood

 

 

On 8/14/08, ravenflight393 <ravenflight393 wrote:

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I found it necessary to go off antidepressants. I had been taking them

> for Obsessive compulsive disorder. Since going off of them about 2

> months ago I have become extremely depressed. I have often been

> depressed because I am disabled and have a very difficult life but I

> have never experienced anything like this. This goes way beyond that

> previous unhappiness. I beleive that withdrawal itself produced the

> problem. But since it has been a little more than 2 months now I am

> afraid that the drugs caused permanenet brain damage and that I will

> never be O.k. again. I feel so empty inside. I force myself to

> function but it doesn't releive the emptiness and I am unable to get

> interested in anything. I have always loved to read for instance but I

> can't read anymore,reading seems pointless. I think about killing

> myself everyday and research methods to do so because when I am

> planning suicide is the only time I feel some hope of controlling my

> own fate and stopping the emptiness and the pain. Circumstances

> prevent me from seeking counseling. Does anyone know anything that

> might help?

>

>

>

 

 

 

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Hi there,

 

GABA was a real life saver for me and it worked pretty quick.

After experiencing the results of this particular substance, I am

totally convinced that depression is a metabolic condition.

 

The body gets used to producing an inordinate amount of adrenalin to

counteract stress. The supply gets depleted but not before stopping

the habit to churn out the stuff at an increased rate. And of course

this produces an ever increasing spiral of anxiety and discomfort,

the need to prop up energy when the bank account is overdrawn.

 

But the storehouse can be eventually and patiently refilled like

hope itself.

 

ZB

 

 

 

 

, " Dorothee Krien "

<dorotheekrien wrote:

>

> Just found this:

> http://www.revolutionhealth.com/healthy-living/mens-

> health/mind/depression/fishing-good-mood

>

>

> On 8/14/08, ravenflight393 <ravenflight393 wrote:

> >

> > Hi Everyone,

> >

> > I found it necessary to go off antidepressants. I had been

taking them

> > for Obsessive compulsive disorder. Since going off of them about

2

> > months ago I have become extremely depressed. I have often been

> > depressed because I am disabled and have a very difficult life

but I

> > have never experienced anything like this. This goes way beyond

that

> > previous unhappiness. I beleive that withdrawal itself produced

the

> > problem. But since it has been a little more than 2 months now I

am

> > afraid that the drugs caused permanenet brain damage and that I

will

> > never be O.k. again. I feel so empty inside. I force myself to

> > function but it doesn't releive the emptiness and I am unable to

get

> > interested in anything. I have always loved to read for instance

but I

> > can't read anymore,reading seems pointless. I think about killing

> > myself everyday and research methods to do so because when I am

> > planning suicide is the only time I feel some hope of

controlling my

> > own fate and stopping the emptiness and the pain. Circumstances

> > prevent me from seeking counseling. Does anyone know anything

that

> > might help?

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I've been on antidepressents for 16 yrs, & would like to get off them

too. I'm also on Klonipin, & that is a whole other topic. I have been

researching alot of natural supplements & vitamin. saMe, 5-HTP all

promising. St. johns wort (depends on your blood type, type O's tend to

be bleeders. St. john wort thins the blood.) Have complete blood work

done & check into eating for your blood type. You are definently going

through withdrawl. What is the extent of your disability? Also you

should of started taking supplements & vitamins before going off meds.

But believe me when I say this, You are not alone, there are alot of

people that feel the same why you do right now. I will keep you in my

prayers. Keep us posted, 13 comments have been posted so far, we do

care! God bless! Dawn from OH.

 

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I can reply to that, I picked up some 5-HTP, over the internet, the

stuff is amazing, and because I am now sleeping properely at night my

body is healing. It has been pretty amazing to go on to it, and

apparently there are links that it is a strong reliever of

Fibromyalgia (which I strongly suspect I have).

 

, " dayray41 "

<dayray41 wrote:

>

> I've been on antidepressents for 16 yrs, & would like to get off them

> too. I'm also on Klonipin, & that is a whole other topic. I have been

> researching alot of natural supplements & vitamin. saMe, 5-HTP all

> promising. St. johns wort (depends on your blood type, type O's tend to

> be bleeders. St. john wort thins the blood.) Have complete blood work

> done & check into eating for your blood type. You are definently going

> through withdrawl. What is the extent of your disability? Also you

> should of started taking supplements & vitamins before going off meds.

> But believe me when I say this, You are not alone, there are alot of

> people that feel the same why you do right now. I will keep you in my

> prayers. Keep us posted, 13 comments have been posted so far, we do

> care! God bless! Dawn from OH.

>

> =====================

> Posted through Grouply, the better way

> to access your like this one.

> http://www.grouply.com/?code=post

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I have fibromyalgia, CFIDS (also called ME or CFS), depression. 5-HTP did not

work for my sleep.

 

Linda

 

-------------- Original message ----------------------

" zebra77a " <zebra77a

> I can reply to that, I picked up some 5-HTP, over the internet, the

> stuff is amazing, and because I am now sleeping properely at night my

> body is healing. It has been pretty amazing to go on to it, and

> apparently there are links that it is a strong reliever of

> Fibromyalgia (which I strongly suspect I have).

>

> , " dayray41 "

> <dayray41 wrote:

> >

> > I've been on antidepressents for 16 yrs, & would like to get off them

> > too. I'm also on Klonipin, & that is a whole other topic. I have been

> > researching alot of natural supplements & vitamin. saMe, 5-HTP all

> > promising. St. johns wort (depends on your blood type, type O's tend to

> > be bleeders. St. john wort thins the blood.) Have complete blood work

> > done & check into eating for your blood type. You are definently going

> > through withdrawl. What is the extent of your disability? Also you

> > should of started taking supplements & vitamins before going off meds.

> > But believe me when I say this, You are not alone, there are alot of

> > people that feel the same why you do right now. I will keep you in my

> > prayers. Keep us posted, 13 comments have been posted so far, we do

> > care! God bless! Dawn from OH.

> >

> > =====================

> > Posted through Grouply, the better way

> > to access your like this one.

> > http://www.grouply.com/?code=post

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

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There is research into the role of essential fatty acids in depression and

huge improvement by taking primrose oil linseed, borage oil etc

 

 

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On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 3:57 PM, evelyn_chadwick <consciouswrote:

 

> There are some mood disorder support groups in NYC. Here is the link to

> one of them: http://www.mdsg.org/links.html. When I was depressed, I

> found them very helpful. Also, it is very important for you to force

> yourself to get out and do things even when ou don't feel like doing

> anything. The more you are up and about, the greater chance for

> recovery.Also, have you visited a psychopharmacologist? They are better

> equiped to perscribe meds than a general internist. I hope this helps.

>

>

>

 

 

 

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Have you ever had your thyroid checked? Free T3 and Free T4 and TSH?

 

 

 

 

 

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On Behalf Of Ann Quinn

Thursday, March 05, 2009 8:37 PM

 

<< >> depression

 

 

 

I just joined this group and am curious if there are any women out there

that suffer from constant depression though there is nothing apparent in

their lives to be depressed about. I am suffering from severe depression

and can not even have an intelligent productive conversation with out

crying. I cry about everything and once the flood gates are open they can

not be closed. I have tried perscription drugs but do not want to take them

anymore. I am looking for an herbal alternative. Ive been taking St. John's

wart and beechwood. Can anyone offer assistance?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Ann - I know that at least 400 mgs of 5HTP really helps me...and a local doctor

says that one can tale up to 900 mgs a day. However, since you are a woman,

when I used to feel weepy/emotional, I would take a combination of Wild

Yam/Chaste Tree...and within 30 minutes I would feel better (hormonal). ~ Lynn

Koiner

PS I strong suggest buying a good name brand. Some Vitamin Shoppe supplements

stopped working last summer. I got better results when I switched to Jarrow

5htp.

 

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Ann Quinn

Thursday, March 05, 2009 8:36 PM

<< >> depression

 

 

I just joined this group and am curious if there are any women out there that

suffer from constant depression though there is nothing apparent in their lives

to be depressed about. I am suffering from severe depression and can not even

have an intelligent productive conversation with out crying. I cry about

everything and once the flood gates are open they can not be closed. I have

tried perscription drugs but do not want to take them anymore. I am looking for

an herbal alternative. Ive been taking St. John's wart and beechwood. Can anyone

offer assistance?

 

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Have you had your thyroid checked? Huge difference for me to find out it was my

thyroid and get it treated.

 

 

--- On Thu, 3/5/09, Ann Quinn <aquinn66 wrote:

 

Ann Quinn <aquinn66

<< >> depression

 

Thursday, March 5, 2009, 8:36 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

I just joined this group and am curious if there are any women out there that

suffer from constant depression though there is nothing apparent in their lives

to be depressed about. I am suffering from severe depression and can not even

have an intelligent productive conversation with out crying. I cry about

everything and once the flood gates are open they can not be closed. I have

tried perscription drugs but do not want to take them anymore. I am looking for

an herbal alternative. Ive been taking St. John's wart and beechwood. Can anyone

offer assistance?

 

 

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Yes, this is an excellent suggestion but blood tests are not always accurate --

have a hormone saliva test for the adrenal/thyroid. A regular doctor has rarely

heard of this but gynocologists always know about it. Just checking your body

temperature can give you a clue about the thyroid....if your temperature is

low...Lynn

 

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Mia Harrod

Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:26 PM

RE: << >> depression

 

 

Have you ever had your thyroid checked? Free T3 and Free T4 and TSH?

 

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On Behalf Of Ann Quinn

Thursday, March 05, 2009 8:37 PM

<< >> depression

 

I just joined this group and am curious if there are any women out there

that suffer from constant depression though there is nothing apparent in

their lives to be depressed about. I am suffering from severe depression

and can not even have an intelligent productive conversation with out

crying. I cry about everything and once the flood gates are open they can

not be closed. I have tried perscription drugs but do not want to take them

anymore. I am looking for an herbal alternative. Ive been taking St. John's

wart and beechwood. Can anyone offer assistance?

 

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Lynn is right, I had to go to an " alternative doctor " to get a real thyroid

diagnosis.

 

You can learn all about the lousy thyroid tests and why they don't work

here: www.stopthethyroidmadness.com <http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/>

 

 

This lady has been researching it for years and even wrote a great book

about it. She also has her own support group.

 

Mia

 

 

 

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Koiner

Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:52 AM

 

Re: << >> depression

 

 

 

Yes, this is an excellent suggestion but blood tests are not always

accurate -- have a hormone saliva test for the adrenal/thyroid. A regular

doctor has rarely heard of this but gynocologists always know about it.

Just checking your body temperature can give you a clue about the

thyroid....if your temperature is low...Lynn

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Gail, can you tell us more about this.

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Gail Ringland

Monday, March 09, 2009 6:26 AM

<< >> depression

 

 

serotonin recptor agonist----works in 3 days--gone an a week

 

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Chamomile helps when your melancholy or real sad and don't know why. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I'm not sure how old you are Janet but you remind me of me when I was a little

younger. For some reason I didn't want controversy in my life and certainly no

confrontations. It took me forever to realise that people can 'smell' your lack

of willingness to become confrontational, and aggressive. Eventually as I got

older, more like 45 years old or something, I realised that this was no

different than wild animals and in particular I noticed feral cats doing this.

Any cat who doesn't want confrontation and battles is the one that gets picked

on because the others 'smell it' on them. I finally learned to give off 'don't

mess with me' vibes, and make someone think twice about causing me any grief at

all. It's something that is intangible that I can not describe, but it's

something that you have to feel in your heart and when you do, the people will

sense that you will not put up with nonsense and they will not bombard you with

negativity.

As far as being depressed, I found that repeating things over and over to

yourself works just like in meditation. It is meditation actually but it's also

daily affirmations of a sort.  Some of the exercises in meditation can be used

all day to repeat to yourself over and over. Little by little what you are

saying to yourself will become part of your being. The other thing is to learn

to live in the here and now and not worry about something that you can't change.

Take a look ( for free) on the internet at the works of Eckhart Tolle. There is

a lot of videos available on youtube that you can watch. His ideas and methods

really work!

Lastly, if you want to know how you got on all those medications all you have to

do is read the book 'Selling Sickness' by Ray Moynihan. This book really lays it

all out on the line and in fact, it's been made into a film by now even!

 

http://icarusfilms.com/new2005/sell.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Janet358 <janetforstr

 

Sunday, 17 May, 2009 20:05:17

<< >> Depression

 

 

 

 

 

I was diagnosed about 4 years ago with major depression. I was put on so much

medication I don't know how I functioned. I have since changed doctors and am

only on 3 meds now. I have so many negative things going on in my life right now

and feel it is too much to handle. I just want to sleep or go run away . I don't

want the doc to increase my meds. I think I should be able to deal with lives

ups and downs. I am basically a very strong person. I was divorced in OC from an

abusive alcoholic. I since met a great guy but don't know if things are going to

work out. I want to quit my job cause someone there has a very bad attitude

towards me and I find it extremely hard to deal with any kind of controversy. I

don't know if I can handle this ll on my own. I feel I am going into a

depression again. I can't and don't want to go through that again. Any advice?

Please!

 

 

 

 

 

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You can do a lot for depression with your diet. Some things to try are

B vitamins, especially B12 and folic acid, magnesium, probiotics, omega

3, Kava kava, raw veggie juicing, 5TP, amino acids. Also exercise,

going for a walk in nature and really connecting with it, being present

in the moment and not in the past, sunshine (light therapy).

 

Look into correcting hypothyroidism, if you have it. Depression may be

a symptom of gut and liver dysfunction, so do some cleanses, perhap

with bentonite clay and psyllium husks.

 

 

 

Janet358 <janetforstr

 

Sun, 17 May 2009 6:05 pm

<< >> Depression

 

I was diagnosed about 4 years ago with major depression. I was put on

so much medication I don't know how I functioned. I have since changed

doctors and am only on 3 meds now. I have so many negative things going

on in my life right now and feel it is too much to handle. I just want

to sleep or go run away . I don't want the doc to increase my meds. I

think I should be able to deal with lives ups and downs. I am basically

a very strong person. I was divorced in OC from an abusive alcoholic. I

since met a great guy but don't know if things are going to work out. I

want to quit my job cause someone there has a very bad attitude towards

me and I find it extremely hard to deal with any kind of controversy. I

don't know if I can handle this ll on my own. I feel I am going into a

depression again. I can't and don't want to go through that again. Any

advice? Please!

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