Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 I am a type 2 diabetic. I was having problems both with the need to urinate frequently, and having inredibly strong need to urinate *right now!* I normally drink 3 liters of water a day. No alcohol, nor caffeine in my diet. I had to break sleep 4 or 5 times a night to go pee. And I often stained my undies with leakage when the urgency got too strong. For the past 6 or 7 months I have been taking Citrulline. Citrulline helps me get thru the night with zero or one wake-up call to go pee. I started with 1 750 mg cap, once a day. Over time I increased dose to 2 caps x 3 times a day. It would appear that Citrulline helps process wastes which can build up (clog?) kidneys. I seem to be needing less Magnsium, which indicates that the kidneys are now more efficient at taking back minerals and water into the blood. So less volume of urine. Cirrulline is also in watermellon, which I used to crave even though as a diabetic I should not eat watermellon. My bottle of NOW brand Citrulline has the following info on the label: > Citrulline is a non-essential amino acid that is an important > intermediate in the urea cycle, functioning along with Arginine and > Ornithine to rid the body of ammonia, a byproduct of protein > metabolism. > Because Citrulline is a precursor of Arginine, it provides a readily > available source material for Arginine production, which in turn, can > be used for the production of Nitric Oxide (NO). > NO plays a fundamental role in vascular function and blood flow. > Citrulline therefore, not only supports detoxification pathways, but > also supports NO production and a healthy cardiovascular system. Then I discovered Citrulline Malate. Citrulline helps with frequency of urination, but does not do anything for the urgency I feel when it is time to go to the toilet. I started taking Citrulline Malate (3 grams, once a day) in addition to the Citrulline. My urgency to pee significantly dropped. I have since upped my Citrulline Malate to 5 grams, twice a day. just prior to drinking undenatured whey. Urgency to pee is still there, but very much less than it was a year ago. So I get better sleep at night, and do not have to dash to the toilet ever 3 hours when awake, like I had been doing. Alobar On 3/31/08, kevaquinn <wysteria.jackson wrote: > I am sitting here having a glass of wine (rough day) wondering about > this 'affliction' that I have had now for a few years. I have adapted > instead of treating or even finding out what it is. I only recently > have figured out what totally seems to cause it. And in my wondering > I starting wondering if anyone else experienced this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Thank you for the info. I know it is common with diabetes (my grandmother has late onset and when she was undiagnosed it was completely out of control...now she's on insulin.) I am curious why it only affects me when I am dehydrated, have drank alcohol or drink caffinated stuff (caffine dehydrates from what I understand). I can't even drink my tea in the morning (depending on the type of tea). I don't usually have to get up in the night (unless I am dehydrated...then it's awful! Thanks Again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Dehydration is not good, even if one has no bad symptoms. Kidneys flush out wasts then recaim needed minerals and water. As kidneys lose their ability to reclaim minerals and water, the problem gets worse. When you are not dehydrated, how much water do you drink everyday? Not tea or juice, but plain water? Alobar On 4/1/08, kevaquinn <wysteria.jackson wrote: > > Thank you for the info. I know it is common with diabetes (my > grandmother has late onset and when she was undiagnosed it was > completely out of control...now she's on insulin.) > > I am curious why it only affects me when I am dehydrated, have drank > alcohol or drink caffinated stuff (caffine dehydrates from what I > understand). I can't even drink my tea in the morning (depending on the > type of tea). I don't usually have to get up in the night (unless I am > dehydrated...then it's awful! > > Thanks Again! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 If I don't drink at least 1.5 liters a day I have the urination problems. Usually I drink 1-2 glasses first thing in the morning (~16 oz each) and then I drink a full Nalgene (I know bad plastic) then when I get home I drink another 1 - 6 glasses (~16 oz) depending on the day. I sometimes prefer seltzer water (no sodium). So usually I guess close to 2 liters. And on those days I am 100% fine...total control. If I drink less... it's never fun. I literally run to the bathroom at times. Thanks! , Alobar <Alobar wrote: > > Dehydration is not good, even if one has no bad symptoms. Kidneys > flush out wasts then recaim needed minerals and water. As kidneys > lose their ability to reclaim minerals and water, the problem gets > worse. When you are not dehydrated, how much water do you drink > everyday? Not tea or juice, but plain water? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 Your intake of water should be based on how your bod feels: Thirsty? Take a drink; NO need to force-feed water when there's nothing wrong. You've said that 1.5L meets your problem; good. For your need, that sounds ok. It's a popular misconception that we need to 'drown' ourselves... but I mean use water as your basic liquid intake, not other liquids (they are 'extras'). Kool it on carbonated drinks, in my opinion. Good luck, painfredoc ************************** On Apr 2, 2008, at 4:27 AM, kevaquinn wrote: If I don't drink at least 1.5 liters a day I have the urination problems. Usually I drink 1-2 glasses first thing in the morning (~16 oz each) and then I drink a full Nalgene (I know bad plastic) then when I get home I drink another 1 - 6 glasses (~16 oz) depending on the day. I sometimes prefer seltzer water (no sodium). So usually I guess close to 2 liters. And on those days I am 100% fine...total control. If I drink less... it's never fun. I literally run to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 We disagree on this one. Many people have trained themselves into chronic dehydration and can no longer rely just on when they feel thirsty. For me, the trick was taking sips of water all throughout the day instead of gulping down several glassfuls at a time. I have water within reach 24/7. I drink more in hot weather than in cold weather. 1.5 liters is adequate for a small individual, but not a large one. I weigh 180 pounds and drink 2.5 to 3 liters a day. Back when I weighed 270 lbs, I needed almost a gallon a day. If 1.5 liters removes the symptoms, that could mean that is the minimum needed, but not necessarily the optimum. Alobar On 4/2/08, Howard Sadowsky <drhow1 wrote: > Your intake of water should be based on how your bod feels: Thirsty? > Take a drink; NO need to force-feed water when there's nothing wrong. > You've said that 1.5L meets your problem; good. For your need, that > sounds ok. It's a popular misconception that we need to 'drown' > ourselves... but I mean use water as your basic liquid intake, not > other liquids (they are 'extras'). Kool it on carbonated drinks, in > my opinion. > > Good luck, > painfredoc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 The only carbonated drink I ever drink is soda water. It has no sodium or anything else in it (except what makes the bubbles). And I don't do that very often. Is the soda water that bad for you? Lately my body has been craving it mixed with cranberry juice and a touch of lime juice...so I drink it. I am very good about listening to the body. But if I am not thirsty and don't consume at least 1.5 liters of water, because I am not thirsty, I will have problems! Thanks! , Howard Sadowsky <drhow1 wrote: > > Your intake of water should be based on how your bod feels: Thirsty? > Take a drink; NO need to force-feed water when there's nothing wrong. > You've said that 1.5L meets your problem; good. For your need, that > sounds ok. It's a popular misconception that we need to 'drown' > ourselves... but I mean use water as your basic liquid intake, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 I agree with Alobar. I never felt thirsty until I started making myself drink more water. Joy ________________________________ On Behalf Of Alobar Wednesday, April 02, 2008 8:51 PM Re: << >> Kinda off topic... We disagree on this one. Many people have trained themselves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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