Guest guest Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Hey Pete, I have tried many different things from various repellents to a little noise generator but; I highly suggest -and the CDC recommends a 20 - 23% DEET repellent. A few years ago a rather comprehensive test of reppellents showed this to be the best. None of the various herbals or skin so soft or .... worked for long enough to be effective. Here in the states there is a repellent that has the DEET in a time release oil base. This also limits the skin absorption of the DEET. Indoors one needs a good light weight mosquito net for sleeping. Various incenses also work nicely to repel the little beasties while you are awake and indoors. Doc BTW stronger DEET solutions do not increase effectiveness but do become more toxic. Based on a 2002 study: * A product containing 23.8% DEET provided an average of 5 hours of protection from mosquito bites. * A product containing 20% DEET provided almost 4 hours of protection * A product with 6.65% DEET provided almost 2 hours of protection * Products with 4.75% DEET and 2% soybean oil were both able to provide roughly 1 and a half hour of protection. Choose a repellent that provides protection for the amount of time that you will be outdoors. A higher percentage of DEET should be used if you will be outdoors for several hours while a lower percentage of DEET can be used if time outdoors will be limited. You can also re-apply a product if you are outdoors for a longer time than expected and start to be bitten by mosquitoes. --- Pete Theisen <petet wrote: Is there any benefit to mosquito repellent? If I read this correctly she doesn't have malaria *yet* and is looking for a *preventive*. Regards, Pete I am only one; but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I can do something; I will not refuse to do the something I can do. - Helen Keller Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 I wondered if this might be of some interest, Best wishes, Public release date: 16-Jul-2004 [ Print Article | E-mail Article | Close Window ] Contact: Michael Bernstein m_bernstein 202-872-6042 American Chemical Society Cinnamon oil kills mosquitoes NOTE FOR REPORTERS: The statement in our original news release (distributed 7-15) that cinnamon oil can " kill mosquito larvae more effectively than DEET " is misleading since we neglected to point out that DEET is most commonly used in insect repellants, not as a larvicide. We apologize for not making this clear. Please disregard the previous version of this news release and use the following version. Cinnamon oil shows promise as a great-smelling, environmentally friendly pesticide, with the ability to kill mosquito larvae, according to a new study published in the July 14 issue of the Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry, a peer-reviewed journal of the American Chemical Society, the world’s largest scientific society. The researchers also expect that cinnamon oil could be a good mosquito repellant, though they have not yet tested it against adult mosquitoes. Besides being a summer nuisance, mosquitoes pose some major public health problems, carrying such deadly agents as malaria, yellow fever and West Nile virus. While conventional pesticide application is often effective in controlling mosquito larvae before they hatch, repeated use of these agents has raised serious environmental and health concerns. " These problems have highlighted the need for new strategies for mosquito larval control, " says Peter Shang-Tzen Chang, a professor in the School of Forestry and Resource Conservation at National Taiwan University and lead author of the paper. Scientists are increasingly turning to more benign natural chemicals to ward off mosquitoes and other pests. Chang and his coworkers tested eleven compounds in cinnamon leaf oil for their ability to kill emerging larvae of the yellow fever mosquito, Aedes aegypti. " Four compounds — cinnamaldehyde, cinnamyl acetate, eugenol and anethole — exhibited the strongest activity against A. aegypti in 24 hours of testing, " Chang says. Larvicidal activity is judged with a measurement called LC50. " The LC50 value is the concentration that kills 50 percent of mosquito larvae in 24 hours, " Chang explains. Lower LC50 translates into higher activity, because it takes a lower concentration to kill larvae in the same amount of time. All four compounds had LC50 values of less than 50 parts per million (ppm), with cinnamaldehyde showing the strongest activity at an LC50 of 29 ppm. Other common essential oils, such as catnip, have shown similar promise in fighting off mosquitoes, but this is the first time researchers have demonstrated cinnamon’s potential as a safe and effective pesticide, according to Chang. Cinnamaldehyde is the main constituent in cinnamon leaf oil and is used worldwide as a food additive and flavoring agent. A formulation using the compound could be sprayed just like a pesticide, but without the potential for adverse health effects — plus the added bonus of a pleasant smell. Bark oil from the Cinnamomum cassia tree is the most common source of cinnamaldehyde, but the tree used in this study — indigenous cinnamon, or Cinnamomum osmophloeum — has been of interest to researchers because the constituents of its leaf oil are similar to those of C. cassia bark oil. The leaves of C. osmophloeum, which grows in Taiwan’s natural hardwood forests, could be a more economical and sustainable source of cinnamon oil than isolating it from bark, Chang says. Though the team only tested the oil against the yellow fever mosquito, cinnamon oil should prove similarly lethal to the larvae of other mosquito species, the researchers say. In further studies they plan to test cinnamon oil against other types of mosquitoes as well as different commercial pesticides. " We think that cinnamon oil might also affect adult mosquitoes by acting as a repellant, " Chang says. The researchers haven’t yet tested this theory, but they plan to find out in the near future. The Council of Agriculture of the Executive Yuan, a government agency in Taiwan, provided support for this research. — Jason Gorss ### The online version of the research paper cited above was initially published June 10 on the journal's Web site. Journalists can arrange access to this site by sending an e-mail to newsroom or calling the contact person for this release. Chinese Medicine Chinese MedicineOn Behalf Of Doc Wednesday, 18 May 2005 5:04 PM Chinese Medicine Re: malaria prophylaxis/mosquito repellent Hey Pete, I have tried many different things from various repellents to a little noise generator but; I highly suggest -and the CDC recommends a 20 - 23% DEET repellent. A few years ago a rather comprehensive test of reppellents showed this to be the best. None of the various herbals or skin so soft or .... worked for long enough to be effective. Here in the states there is a repellent that has the DEET in a time release oil base. This also limits the skin absorption of the DEET. Indoors one needs a good light weight mosquito net for sleeping. Various incenses also work nicely to repel the little beasties while you are awake and indoors. Doc BTW stronger DEET solutions do not increase effectiveness but do become more toxic. Based on a 2002 study: * A product containing 23.8% DEET provided an average of 5 hours of protection from mosquito bites. * A product containing 20% DEET provided almost 4 hours of protection * A product with 6.65% DEET provided almost 2 hours of protection * Products with 4.75% DEET and 2% soybean oil were both able to provide roughly 1 and a half hour of protection. Choose a repellent that provides protection for the amount of time that you will be outdoors. A higher percentage of DEET should be used if you will be outdoors for several hours while a lower percentage of DEET can be used if time outdoors will be limited. You can also re-apply a product if you are outdoors for a longer time than expected and start to be bitten by mosquitoes. --- Pete Theisen <petet wrote: Is there any benefit to mosquito repellent? If I read this correctly she doesn't have malaria *yet* and is looking for a *preventive*. Regards, Pete I am only one; but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I can do something; I will not refuse to do the something I can do. - Helen Keller Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. http://babel.altavista.com/ and adjust accordingly. ---------- -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Malaria isn't an issue where I wildcraft but mosquitos (and ticks and chiggers) are. I use herbal repellent on my flesh and clothing, refreshing it often. The essential oils in it dissipate fast. My timing for reapplication comes from observing nature; as often as a heavy chain smoker needs to light up another cigarette. If they can make the time, so can I. If you use an herbal repellent, in addition to the essential oil's quality to repel bugs take into consideration how it will affect you. Its all medicine. I use Deet on my clothing (but not near my face). Yes clothing. I always keep my arms, legs, head plus neck covered (drape a babushka down from under my hat). They sell net mosquito clothing but I prefer baggy cotton shirts and baggy cotton pants. If you're not going to be in " the field " , I'm sure one can find stylish/ fashion statement ;-) loose clothing. Penel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 which creates a freakish thought can the mosquito implant a malarial pod and it survive if the Wei is firmly in place? what constitutes the APF? when in the East i would regularly find people who simply were not infected, or were and did not develop infection, or did in a minor form. and there were those who stayed indoors and took antimalarials and still managed to come down with if not the full blown Hot Cold Chill pattern, an attenuated one can it be possible the insect has learned over millenia to not venture to drink a blood meal from a person with Full Wei? which would beg the Q, how can one create an optimal Wei layer? use wei extra points? tone up LU? which again begs the Q, what triggers to use to establish a wayward Wei? or a Deficient LU yin? holmes at www.acu-free.com hyldemoer wrote: > Malaria isn't an issue where I wildcraft but mosquitos (and ticks and > chiggers) are. > I use herbal repellent on my flesh and clothing, refreshing it often. > The essential oils in it dissipate fast. My timing for reapplication > comes from observing nature; as often as a heavy chain smoker > needs to light up another cigarette. > If they can make the time, so can I. > > If you use an herbal repellent, in addition to the essential oil's > quality to repel bugs take into consideration how it will affect you. > Its all medicine. > > I use Deet on my clothing (but not near my face). > Yes clothing. I always keep my arms, legs, head plus neck covered > (drape a babushka down from under my hat). They sell net mosquito > clothing but I prefer baggy cotton shirts and baggy cotton pants. > > If you're not going to be in " the field " , I'm sure one can find > stylish/ fashion statement ;-) loose clothing. > > Penel > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Penel, You make some excellent points. If you are able and willing to re-apply an herbal repellent on an hourly-or more often- basis then there are some that work. I am not usualy able to interupt my volunteer work to do so, and my memory precludes this solution so DEET it is for me. [The brand of DEET I use is Sawyer Controlled Release which lasts longer than standard 20% DEET and absorbs into the body less] You also bring up clothing and that has always been my first line of defense. Long sleeves long pants and all quite baggy, and as they say in the military never forget your cover (hat). I look best in loose cloths any way, ;-) and always wear a hat or kipah. Doc --- hyldemoer <hyldemoer wrote: Malaria isn't an issue where I wildcraft but mosquitos (and ticks and chiggers) are. I use herbal repellent on my flesh and clothing, refreshing it often. The essential oils in it dissipate fast. My timing for reapplication comes from observing nature; as often as a heavy chain smoker needs to light up another cigarette. If they can make the time, so can I. If you use an herbal repellent, in addition to the essential oil's quality to repel bugs take into consideration how it will affect you. Its all medicine. I use Deet on my clothing (but not near my face). Yes clothing. I always keep my arms, legs, head plus neck covered (drape a babushka down from under my hat). They sell net mosquito clothing but I prefer baggy cotton shirts and baggy cotton pants. If you're not going to be in " the field " , I'm sure one can find stylish/ fashion statement ;-) loose clothing. Penel I am only one; but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I can do something; I will not refuse to do the something I can do. - Helen Keller Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail./mailtour.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Just to add to the plethora: I saw oil of catnip was more effective than DEET in a study but that the patent/application was snapped up by the pharm. company that did the test. Of course, I have no idea of its staying power, but for those who are will to frequently re- apply: extra armor in the armamentarium. Cameron Chinese Medicine , Doc <Doc@s...> wrote: > Penel, > You make some excellent points. > If you are able and willing to re-apply an herbal > repellent on an hourly-or more often- basis then there > are some that work. I am not usualy able to interupt > my volunteer work to do so, and my memory precludes > this solution so DEET it is for me. [The brand of DEET > I use is Sawyer Controlled Release which lasts longer > than standard 20% DEET and absorbs into the body less] > > You also bring up clothing and that has always been my > first line of defense. Long sleeves long pants and all > quite baggy, and as they say in the military never > forget your cover (hat). > I look best in loose cloths any way, ;-) and always > wear a hat or kipah. > > Doc > --- hyldemoer <hyldemoer> wrote: > > Malaria isn't an issue where I wildcraft but mosquitos > (and ticks and > chiggers) are. > I use herbal repellent on my flesh and clothing, > refreshing it often. > The essential oils in it dissipate fast. My timing for > reapplication > comes from observing nature; as often as a heavy chain > smoker > needs to light up another cigarette. > If they can make the time, so can I. > > If you use an herbal repellent, in addition to the > essential oil's > quality to repel bugs take into consideration how it > will affect you. > Its all medicine. > > I use Deet on my clothing (but not near my face). > Yes clothing. I always keep my arms, legs, head plus > neck covered > (drape a babushka down from under my hat). They sell > net mosquito > clothing but I prefer baggy cotton shirts and baggy > cotton pants. > > If you're not going to be in " the field " , I'm sure one > can find > stylish/ fashion statement ;-) loose clothing. > > Penel > > > > I am only one; but still I am one. > I cannot do everything, but still I can do something; > I will not refuse to do the something I can do. > - Helen Keller > > > > Mail > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: > http://tour.mail./mailtour.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Cameron, I read that but more reading showed that it was unfortunately being compared to 3.7% DEET solution As much as I end up using repellent I wish someone would come up with something as effective or close to as effective as 23% DEET. I hate the smell of DEET I hate the toxic reality of it but i like Dengue and Malaria even less so since i'm not evolved enough to just wish the mozzys away..... Doc BTW i tried to find an essential oil of catnip but could find none in local herb shops --- cameronhollister <cameronhollister wrote: Just to add to the plethora: I saw oil of catnip was more effective than DEET in a study but that the patent/application was snapped up by the pharm. company that did the test. Of course, I have no idea of its staying power, but for those who are will to frequently re- apply: extra armor in the armamentarium. Cameron I am only one; but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I can do something; I will not refuse to do the something I can do. - Helen Keller Mail Mobile Take Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile./learn/mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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