RE: channel reality

March 30, 2005

Alon:

As stated in my message, research on this point is far

from complete, but is ongoing, mostly in Chinese.

If it pleases you to take this as a statement of

faith, so be it. If leading Chinese researchers felt

this simply a matter of faith, they wouldn't include

it in their published works.

Regards, Jack

--- <alonmarcus wrote:

> Somewhere within the Zhou Yi lies the answer to

> these riddles, and

> the answer probably concerns DNA as information,

> >>>>That is a statment of faith

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

March 31, 2005

Mike:

Chinese scholars study the Zhou Yi and the Tai Xuan

Jing, especially with regard to medicine, math and

physics. Not much of this work reaches translation.

Only one of Yang Li's books has been translated into

English, and reportedly bowlderized in the process.

An octegenarian country doctor told me he was

surprised to see such esoteric knowledge in print,

saying that China would not release such knowledge in

the past.

The Cultural Revolution decimated a generation of

intellectuals and set back study of the classics, so

there needs to be more of such research.

Western physics is the most advanced in terms of

coming to terms with the Chinese classics, begining

with the Tao of Physics and continuing to the present.

The trend is clear in physics, but may take some time

for math and medicine to catch up.

For example, few understand or apply trinary (ternary)

math, which forms the structure of the Tai Xuan Jing,

and which may power future generations of computers.

We're still a binary civilization, for the most part,

and have no use for trinary computers yet.

--- mike Bowser <naturaldoc1 wrote:

" This > type of work is needed as we are running into

a

> disturbing trend of practitioners that believe that

the blood vessels and nerves are what the > classics

thought of as jing luo. "

This would prove an egregious mistake, signalling a

complete failure to understand the classics, along the

lines of viewing the world through Newtonian physics

when we ought to be thinking more in terms of

superstring theory and beyond.

Paradigm shift is called for, and that requires more

work and research, as well as opening closed minds.

Regards, Jack

Make your home page

http://www./r/hs

March 31, 2005

I find this to be a most interesting and often neglected idea when it comes

to explanations of things scientific.

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

> <>

>Chinese Medicine

><Chinese Medicine >

>RE: RE: channel reality

>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:36:02 +1000

>

>I suspect it is a hologram principle.

>

> mike Bowser [naturaldoc1]

> Wednesday, 30 March 2005 10:47 PM

> Chinese Medicine

> Re: RE: channel reality

>

> One would have to question any connections from ear to hand. In my

>medical

> anatomy course we have not ID any such direct connection. Some will not

> doubt argue that there must be an indirect one and I would consider that

> argument.

>

> Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

>

> > " " <alonmarcus

> >Chinese Medicine

> ><Chinese Medicine >

> >Re: RE: channel reality

> >Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:38:29 -0600

> >

> >There are no nervous system connections from the ear to the hand.

> > >>>You mean there is no simple exon going from the ear to the hand. To

>say

> >there is no nervous system connection is false

> >

March 31, 2005

Jack,

Glad you see it this way too. I am hopeful that others on this site might

also take up the call and work to get a better understanding of the classics

and making it known throughout the profession as the more you speak of it,

the more likely it will become commonly known.

As for the accreditation group they go by the name of NOMAA and have begun

to accredit a few schools in an entry level doctorate program. Their

founders have mentioned their belief in blood and nerves in past interviews

with Acupuncturetoday. Check out their website and you will see such things

as competency or evidence-based medicine as well as a course on the

physiological basis of Oriental medicine is required. I know of only one

program that has initiated this.

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

>Jack Sweeney <mojavecowboy

>Chinese Medicine

>Re: RE: channel reality

>Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:44:55 -0800 (PST)

>

>Mike:

>

>Chinese scholars study the Zhou Yi and the Tai Xuan

>Jing, especially with regard to medicine, math and

>physics. Not much of this work reaches translation.

>Only one of Yang Li's books has been translated into

>English, and reportedly bowlderized in the process.

>

>An octegenarian country doctor told me he was

>surprised to see such esoteric knowledge in print,

>saying that China would not release such knowledge in

>the past.

>

>The Cultural Revolution decimated a generation of

>intellectuals and set back study of the classics, so

>there needs to be more of such research.

>

>Western physics is the most advanced in terms of

>coming to terms with the Chinese classics, begining

>with the Tao of Physics and continuing to the present.

>The trend is clear in physics, but may take some time

>for math and medicine to catch up.

>

>For example, few understand or apply trinary (ternary)

>math, which forms the structure of the Tai Xuan Jing,

>and which may power future generations of computers.

>We're still a binary civilization, for the most part,

>and have no use for trinary computers yet.

>

>--- mike Bowser <naturaldoc1 wrote:

>

> " This > type of work is needed as we are running into

>a

> > disturbing trend of practitioners that believe that

>the blood vessels and nerves are what the > classics

>thought of as jing luo. "

>

>This would prove an egregious mistake, signalling a

>complete failure to understand the classics, along the

>lines of viewing the world through Newtonian physics

>when we ought to be thinking more in terms of

>superstring theory and beyond.

>

>Paradigm shift is called for, and that requires more

>work and research, as well as opening closed minds.

>

>Regards, Jack

>

>Make your home page

>http://www./r/hs

March 31, 2005

Mike:

NOMAA does look scary, glad to see that AAOMA put them

off last year.

http://www.acupuncture.com/bboard/_disc1/00000048.htm

Keeping them away takes lots of hard work.

Regards, Jack

--- mike Bowser <naturaldoc1 wrote:

> Jack,

> Glad you see it this way too. I am hopeful that

> others on this site might

> also take up the call and work to get a better

> understanding of the classics

> and making it known throughout the profession as the

> more you speak of it,

> the more likely it will become commonly known.

>

> As for the accreditation group they go by the name

> of NOMAA and have begun

> to accredit a few schools in an entry level

> doctorate program. Their

> founders have mentioned their belief in blood and

> nerves in past interviews

> with Acupuncturetoday. Check out their website and

> you will see such things

> as competency or evidence-based medicine as well as

> a course on the

> physiological basis of Oriental medicine is

> required. I know of only one

> program that has initiated this.

>

> Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

>

> >Jack Sweeney <mojavecowboy

> >

> Chinese Medicine

> >Chinese Medicine

> >Re: RE: channel reality

> >Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:44:55 -0800 (PST)

> >

> >Mike:

> >

> >Chinese scholars study the Zhou Yi and the Tai Xuan

> >Jing, especially with regard to medicine, math and

> >physics. Not much of this work reaches translation.

> >Only one of Yang Li's books has been translated

> into

> >English, and reportedly bowlderized in the process.

> >

> >An octegenarian country doctor told me he was

> >surprised to see such esoteric knowledge in print,

> >saying that China would not release such knowledge

> in

> >the past.

> >

> >The Cultural Revolution decimated a generation of

> >intellectuals and set back study of the classics,

> so

> >there needs to be more of such research.

> >

> >Western physics is the most advanced in terms of

> >coming to terms with the Chinese classics, begining

> >with the Tao of Physics and continuing to the

> present.

> >The trend is clear in physics, but may take some

> time

> >for math and medicine to catch up.

> >

> >For example, few understand or apply trinary

> (ternary)

> >math, which forms the structure of the Tai Xuan

> Jing,

> >and which may power future generations of

> computers.

> >We're still a binary civilization, for the most

> part,

> >and have no use for trinary computers yet.

> >

> >--- mike Bowser <naturaldoc1 wrote:

> >

> > " This > type of work is needed as we are running

> into

> >a

> > > disturbing trend of practitioners that believe

> that

> >the blood vessels and nerves are what the >

> classics

> >thought of as jing luo. "

> >

> >This would prove an egregious mistake, signalling a

> >complete failure to understand the classics, along

> the

> >lines of viewing the world through Newtonian

> physics

> >when we ought to be thinking more in terms of

> >superstring theory and beyond.

> >

> >Paradigm shift is called for, and that requires

> more

> >work and research, as well as opening closed minds.

> >

> >Regards, Jack

> >

> >Make your home page

> >http://www./r/hs

>

March 31, 2005

Mike,

" The physicist David Bohm argues that the entire universe is a hologram.

This model allowed him to explain and resolve certain difficulties in

experimental physics. ... The importance of this model is that it allows

descriptions of how non-local events can produce local changes and how local

event can produce non-local changes, that is, how every part of the universe

communicates with all the other parts of the universe. " Chasing the Dragon's

Tail, p xxxii Glossary of Terminology.

So the change in polarity at the ear LI point can cause a non-local change

at Hegu LI 4. Depending on polarity or side of ear LI point this change

will either increase or decrease palpation pressure on the hand point.

Best wishes,

mike Bowser [naturaldoc1]

Thursday, 31 March 2005 10:47 AM

Chinese Medicine

RE: RE: channel reality

I find this to be a most interesting and often neglected idea when it

comes

to explanations of things scientific.

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

> <>

>Chinese Medicine

><Chinese Medicine >

>RE: RE: channel reality

>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:36:02 +1000

>

>I suspect it is a hologram principle.

>

> mike Bowser [naturaldoc1]

> Wednesday, 30 March 2005 10:47 PM

> Chinese Medicine

> Re: RE: channel reality

>

> One would have to question any connections from ear to hand. In my

>medical

> anatomy course we have not ID any such direct connection. Some will

not

> doubt argue that there must be an indirect one and I would consider

that

> argument.

>

> Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

>

> > " " <alonmarcus

> >Chinese Medicine

> ><Chinese Medicine >

> >Re: RE: channel reality

> >Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:38:29 -0600

> >

> >There are no nervous system connections from the ear to the hand.

> > >>>You mean there is no simple exon going from the ear to the hand.

To

>say

> >there is no nervous system connection is false

> >

March 31, 2005

Sharon,

I agree and have read about many such people like Bohm. Do you have a good

link where others might read about such and did you have a chance to read

any of the pdf files about the Korean research that I posted? What do you

think, a picture is worth a thousand words.

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

> <>

>Chinese Medicine

><Chinese Medicine >

>RE: RE: channel reality

>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:42:50 +1000

>

>Mike,

> " The physicist David Bohm argues that the entire universe is a hologram.

>This model allowed him to explain and resolve certain difficulties in

>experimental physics. ... The importance of this model is that it allows

>descriptions of how non-local events can produce local changes and how

>local

>event can produce non-local changes, that is, how every part of the

>universe

>communicates with all the other parts of the universe. " Chasing the

>Dragon's

>Tail, p xxxii Glossary of Terminology.

>

>So the change in polarity at the ear LI point can cause a non-local change

>at Hegu LI 4. Depending on polarity or side of ear LI point this change

>will either increase or decrease palpation pressure on the hand point.

>

>Best wishes,

>

> mike Bowser [naturaldoc1]

> Thursday, 31 March 2005 10:47 AM

> Chinese Medicine

> RE: RE: channel reality

>

> I find this to be a most interesting and often neglected idea when it

>comes

> to explanations of things scientific.

>

> Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

>

> > <>

> >Chinese Medicine

> ><Chinese Medicine >

> >RE: RE: channel reality

> >Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:36:02 +1000

> >

> >I suspect it is a hologram principle.

> >

> > mike Bowser [naturaldoc1]

> > Wednesday, 30 March 2005 10:47 PM

> > Chinese Medicine

> > Re: RE: channel reality

> >

> > One would have to question any connections from ear to hand. In my

> >medical

> > anatomy course we have not ID any such direct connection. Some will

>not

> > doubt argue that there must be an indirect one and I would consider

>that

> > argument.

> >

> > Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

> >

> > > " " <alonmarcus

> > >Chinese Medicine

> > ><Chinese Medicine >

> > >Re: RE: channel reality

> > >Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:38:29 -0600

> > >

> > >There are no nervous system connections from the ear to the hand.

> > > >>>You mean there is no simple exon going from the ear to the

>hand.

>To

> >say

> > >there is no nervous system connection is false

> > >

March 31, 2005

Jack,

If the AAOM,ACAOM and CCAOM come to terms with the need for entry doctoral

programs and then move to create them, the NOMAA will cease to exist for

many reasons. We are being forced to move to this whether we like it of

not, it is only a matter of when and how smooth. If we wait too long we

only make things more difficult by allowing such fringe elements to get a

foot hold. This will be problematic later on and could lead to an unwanted

rift.

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

>Jack Sweeney <mojavecowboy

>Chinese Medicine

>Re: RE: channel reality

>Wed, 30 Mar 2005 17:41:54 -0800 (PST)

>

>Mike:

>

>NOMAA does look scary, glad to see that AAOMA put them

>off last year.

>

>http://www.acupuncture.com/bboard/_disc1/00000048.htm

>

>Keeping them away takes lots of hard work.

>

>Regards, Jack

>

>--- mike Bowser <naturaldoc1 wrote:

> > Jack,

> > Glad you see it this way too. I am hopeful that

> > others on this site might

> > also take up the call and work to get a better

> > understanding of the classics

> > and making it known throughout the profession as the

> > more you speak of it,

> > the more likely it will become commonly known.

> >

> > As for the accreditation group they go by the name

> > of NOMAA and have begun

> > to accredit a few schools in an entry level

> > doctorate program. Their

> > founders have mentioned their belief in blood and

> > nerves in past interviews

> > with Acupuncturetoday. Check out their website and

> > you will see such things

> > as competency or evidence-based medicine as well as

> > a course on the

> > physiological basis of Oriental medicine is

> > required. I know of only one

> > program that has initiated this.

> >

> > Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

> >

> > >Jack Sweeney <mojavecowboy

> > >

> > Chinese Medicine

> > >Chinese Medicine

> > >Re: RE: channel reality

> > >Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:44:55 -0800 (PST)

> > >

> > >Mike:

> > >

> > >Chinese scholars study the Zhou Yi and the Tai Xuan

> > >Jing, especially with regard to medicine, math and

> > >physics. Not much of this work reaches translation.

> > >Only one of Yang Li's books has been translated

> > into

> > >English, and reportedly bowlderized in the process.

> > >

> > >An octegenarian country doctor told me he was

> > >surprised to see such esoteric knowledge in print,

> > >saying that China would not release such knowledge

> > in

> > >the past.

> > >

> > >The Cultural Revolution decimated a generation of

> > >intellectuals and set back study of the classics,

> > so

> > >there needs to be more of such research.

> > >

> > >Western physics is the most advanced in terms of

> > >coming to terms with the Chinese classics, begining

> > >with the Tao of Physics and continuing to the

> > present.

> > >The trend is clear in physics, but may take some

> > time

> > >for math and medicine to catch up.

> > >

> > >For example, few understand or apply trinary

> > (ternary)

> > >math, which forms the structure of the Tai Xuan

> > Jing,

> > >and which may power future generations of

> > computers.

> > >We're still a binary civilization, for the most

> > part,

> > >and have no use for trinary computers yet.

> > >

> > >--- mike Bowser <naturaldoc1 wrote:

> > >

> > > " This > type of work is needed as we are running

> > into

> > >a

> > > > disturbing trend of practitioners that believe

> > that

> > >the blood vessels and nerves are what the >

> > classics

> > >thought of as jing luo. "

> > >

> > >This would prove an egregious mistake, signalling a

> > >complete failure to understand the classics, along

> > the

> > >lines of viewing the world through Newtonian

> > physics

> > >when we ought to be thinking more in terms of

> > >superstring theory and beyond.

> > >

> > >Paradigm shift is called for, and that requires

> > more

> > >work and research, as well as opening closed minds.

> > >

> > >Regards, Jack

> > >

> > >Make your home page

> > >http://www./r/hs

> >

>

March 31, 2005

Mike & Sharon,

You may already be familiar with The Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot, but

if not let me recommend it as an easy introduction to Bohm's and Bohr's work.

Kim Blankenship, L.Ac.

mike Bowser <naturaldoc1 wrote:

Sharon,

I agree and have read about many such people like Bohm. Do you have a good

link where others might read about such and did you have a chance to read

any of the pdf files about the Korean research that I posted? What do you

think, a picture is worth a thousand words.

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

> <>

>Chinese Medicine

><Chinese Medicine >

>RE: RE: channel reality

>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:42:50 +1000

>

>Mike,

> " The physicist David Bohm argues that the entire universe is a hologram.

>This model allowed him to explain and resolve certain difficulties in

>experimental physics. ... The importance of this model is that it allows

>descriptions of how non-local events can produce local changes and how

>local

>event can produce non-local changes, that is, how every part of the

>universe

>communicates with all the other parts of the universe. " Chasing the

>Dragon's

>Tail, p xxxii Glossary of Terminology.

>

>So the change in polarity at the ear LI point can cause a non-local change

>at Hegu LI 4. Depending on polarity or side of ear LI point this change

>will either increase or decrease palpation pressure on the hand point.

>

>Best wishes,

>

> mike Bowser [naturaldoc1]

> Thursday, 31 March 2005 10:47 AM

> Chinese Medicine

> RE: RE: channel reality

>

> I find this to be a most interesting and often neglected idea when it

>comes

> to explanations of things scientific.

>

> Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

>

> > <>

> >Chinese Medicine

> ><Chinese Medicine >

> >RE: RE: channel reality

> >Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:36:02 +1000

> >

> >I suspect it is a hologram principle.

> >

> > mike Bowser [naturaldoc1]

> > Wednesday, 30 March 2005 10:47 PM

> > Chinese Medicine

> > Re: RE: channel reality

> >

> > One would have to question any connections from ear to hand. In my

> >medical

> > anatomy course we have not ID any such direct connection. Some will

>not

> > doubt argue that there must be an indirect one and I would consider

>that

> > argument.

> >

> > Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

> >

> > > " " <alonmarcus

> > >Chinese Medicine

> > ><Chinese Medicine >

> > >Re: RE: channel reality

> > >Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:38:29 -0600

> > >

> > >There are no nervous system connections from the ear to the hand.

> > > >>>You mean there is no simple exon going from the ear to the

>hand.

>To

> >say

> > >there is no nervous system connection is false

> > >

March 31, 2005

In my medical

anatomy course we have not ID any such direct connection. Some will not

doubt argue that there must be an indirect one and I would consider that

argument.

>>>>>

It is clear now that brain mapping is often extremely fluid and that connections

are there or can be created from all structures. You are correct if you are

looking for some simple tract, non-exist between the ear and hand. But that is

differed than saying there is no nervous system connection between the hand and

ear.

alon

mike Bowser <naturaldoc1 wrote:

One would have to question any connections from ear to hand. In my medical

anatomy course we have not ID any such direct connection. Some will not

doubt argue that there must be an indirect one and I would consider that

argument.

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

> " " <alonmarcus

>Chinese Medicine

><Chinese Medicine >

>Re: RE: channel reality

>Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:38:29 -0600

>

>There are no nervous system connections from the ear to the hand.

> >>>You mean there is no simple exon going from the ear to the hand. To say

>there is no nervous system connection is false

>

April 1, 2005

Hi Mike,

What was the link to the PDF files?

mike Bowser [naturaldoc1]

Thursday, 31 March 2005 10:28 PM

Chinese Medicine

RE: RE: channel reality

Sharon,

I agree and have read about many such people like Bohm. Do you have a

good

link where others might read about such and did you have a chance to read

any of the pdf files about the Korean research that I posted? What do you

think, a picture is worth a thousand words.

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

> <>

>Chinese Medicine

><Chinese Medicine >

>RE: RE: channel reality

>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:42:50 +1000

>

>Mike,

> " The physicist David Bohm argues that the entire universe is a hologram.

>This model allowed him to explain and resolve certain difficulties in

>experimental physics. ... The importance of this model is that it allows

>descriptions of how non-local events can produce local changes and how

>local

>event can produce non-local changes, that is, how every part of the

>universe

>communicates with all the other parts of the universe. " Chasing the

>Dragon's

>Tail, p xxxii Glossary of Terminology.

>

>So the change in polarity at the ear LI point can cause a non-local

change

>at Hegu LI 4. Depending on polarity or side of ear LI point this change

>will either increase or decrease palpation pressure on the hand point.

>

>Best wishes,

>

> mike Bowser [naturaldoc1]

> Thursday, 31 March 2005 10:47 AM

> Chinese Medicine

> RE: RE: channel reality

>

> I find this to be a most interesting and often neglected idea when it

>comes

> to explanations of things scientific.

>

> Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

>

> > <>

> >Chinese Medicine

> ><Chinese Medicine >

> >RE: RE: channel reality

> >Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:36:02 +1000

> >

> >I suspect it is a hologram principle.

> >

> > mike Bowser [naturaldoc1]

> > Wednesday, 30 March 2005 10:47 PM

> > Chinese Medicine

> > Re: RE: channel reality

> >

> > One would have to question any connections from ear to hand. In

my

> >medical

> > anatomy course we have not ID any such direct connection. Some

will

>not

> > doubt argue that there must be an indirect one and I would

consider

>that

> > argument.

> >

> > Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

> >

> > > " " <alonmarcus

> > >Chinese Medicine

> > ><Chinese Medicine >

> > >Re: RE: channel reality

> > >Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:38:29 -0600

> > >

> > >There are no nervous system connections from the ear to the hand.

> > > >>>You mean there is no simple exon going from the ear to the

>hand.

>To

> >say

> > >there is no nervous system connection is false

> > >

April 1, 2005

Alon,

What is your source of this info?

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

>Alon Marcus <alonmarcus

>Chinese Medicine

>Re: RE: channel reality

>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 14:58:14 -0800 (PST)

>

>In my medical

>anatomy course we have not ID any such direct connection. Some will not

>doubt argue that there must be an indirect one and I would consider that

>argument.

> >>>>>

>It is clear now that brain mapping is often extremely fluid and that

>connections are there or can be created from all structures. You are

>correct if you are looking for some simple tract, non-exist between the ear

>and hand. But that is differed than saying there is no nervous system

>connection between the hand and ear.

>

>alon

>

>mike Bowser <naturaldoc1 wrote:

>One would have to question any connections from ear to hand. In my medical

>anatomy course we have not ID any such direct connection. Some will not

>doubt argue that there must be an indirect one and I would consider that

>argument.

>

>Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

>

> > " " <alonmarcus

> >Chinese Medicine

> ><Chinese Medicine >

> >Re: RE: channel reality

> >Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:38:29 -0600

> >

> >There are no nervous system connections from the ear to the hand.

> > >>>You mean there is no simple exon going from the ear to the hand. To

>say

> >there is no nervous system connection is false

> >

April 1, 2005

Sharon,

You can go to

http://kmc.snu.ac.kr/Aframe.htm

and check out their research and results. I am glad to see that someone is

carrying on the work of Dr. Kim Bonghan. If these structures are further

studied and Bonghan's original work confirmed this could be the single

biggest discovery for our profession as we use these in our patient care.

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

> <>

>Chinese Medicine

><Chinese Medicine >

>RE: RE: channel reality

>Fri, 1 Apr 2005 13:01:26 +1000

>

>Hi Mike,

>What was the link to the PDF files?

>

> mike Bowser [naturaldoc1]

> Thursday, 31 March 2005 10:28 PM

> Chinese Medicine

> RE: RE: channel reality

>

> Sharon,

> I agree and have read about many such people like Bohm. Do you have a

>good

> link where others might read about such and did you have a chance to

>read

> any of the pdf files about the Korean research that I posted? What do

>you

> think, a picture is worth a thousand words.

>

> Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

>

> > <>

> >Chinese Medicine

> ><Chinese Medicine >

> >RE: RE: channel reality

> >Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:42:50 +1000

> >

> >Mike,

> > " The physicist David Bohm argues that the entire universe is a

>hologram.

> >This model allowed him to explain and resolve certain difficulties in

> >experimental physics. ... The importance of this model is that it

>allows

> >descriptions of how non-local events can produce local changes and how

> >local

> >event can produce non-local changes, that is, how every part of the

> >universe

> >communicates with all the other parts of the universe. " Chasing the

> >Dragon's

> >Tail, p xxxii Glossary of Terminology.

> >

> >So the change in polarity at the ear LI point can cause a non-local

>change

> >at Hegu LI 4. Depending on polarity or side of ear LI point this

>change

> >will either increase or decrease palpation pressure on the hand point.

> >

> >Best wishes,

> >

> > mike Bowser [naturaldoc1]

> > Thursday, 31 March 2005 10:47 AM

> > Chinese Medicine

> > RE: RE: channel reality

> >

> > I find this to be a most interesting and often neglected idea when

>it

> >comes

> > to explanations of things scientific.

> >

> > Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

> >

> > > <>

> > >Chinese Medicine

> > ><Chinese Medicine >

> > >RE: RE: channel reality

> > >Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:36:02 +1000

> > >

> > >I suspect it is a hologram principle.

> > >

> > > mike Bowser [naturaldoc1]

> > > Wednesday, 30 March 2005 10:47 PM

> > > Chinese Medicine

> > > Re: RE: channel reality

> > >

> > > One would have to question any connections from ear to hand. In

>my

> > >medical

> > > anatomy course we have not ID any such direct connection. Some

>will

> >not

> > > doubt argue that there must be an indirect one and I would

>consider

> >that

> > > argument.

> > >

> > > Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

> > >

> > > > " " <alonmarcus

> > > >Chinese Medicine

> > > ><Chinese Medicine >

> > > >Re: RE: channel reality

> > > >Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:38:29 -0600

> > > >

> > > >There are no nervous system connections from the ear to the

>hand.

> > > > >>>You mean there is no simple exon going from the ear to the

> >hand.

> >To

> > >say

> > > >there is no nervous system connection is false

> > > >

April 1, 2005

What is your source of this info?

>>>>Just read neuro journals, also i just came back from the annual meeting of

the american academy of osteopathy and Willard, probably the best anatomist i

have ever known, gave a talk just on that topic

April 1, 2005

Alon,

It sounds like you are excited by this discovery. It seems interesting to

me that your acceptance of this is much like mine for the biological

discovery of microtubules and their large contribution to the channel

theory. So, why is there such a problem with a biological structure being

considered as a possibility of the ancient theories? Notice I said

possibility, which requires an open mind.

Just curious.

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

> " " <alonmarcus

>Chinese Medicine

><Chinese Medicine >

>Re: RE: channel reality

>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 21:26:07 -0600

>

>What is your source of this info?

> >>>>Just read neuro journals, also i just came back from the annual

>meeting of the american academy of osteopathy and Willard, probably the

>best anatomist i have ever known, gave a talk just on that topic

>

April 1, 2005

So, why is there such a problem with a biological structure being

considered as a possibility of the ancient theories? Notice I said

possibility, which requires an open mind.

Just curious.

>>>>>>Mike i really do not have a problem with it, and the site had some very

interesting articles, great find. I was talking about the statement that the

eching will have all the answers we just need to find them. That to me is a

statement of faith.

April 1, 2005

Alon,

The same faith can be added to that of medicine as well as religion. When

you have a chance check out this article by Dr. Charles Shang MD on points

as mediators of growth and development.

http://www.vxm.com/21R.65.html

I hope that others will also post info of this nature and maybe we can

create a database. Information is power.

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

> " " <alonmarcus

>Chinese Medicine

><Chinese Medicine >

>Re: RE: channel reality

>Fri, 1 Apr 2005 11:07:05 -0600

>

>So, why is there such a problem with a biological structure being

>considered as a possibility of the ancient theories? Notice I said

>possibility, which requires an open mind.

>Just curious.

> >>>>>>Mike i really do not have a problem with it, and the site had some

>very interesting articles, great find. I was talking about the statement

>that the eching will have all the answers we just need to find them. That

>to me is a statement of faith.

>

April 1, 2005

The same faith can be added to that of medicine as well as religion. When

you have a chance check out this article by Dr. Charles Shang MD on points

as mediators of growth and development.

>>>>There is a big difference between faith and evidence, but for those that

insist otherwise I am with there is no starting point for discussion.

April 1, 2005

Alon,

There is no evidence on future predictions of disease treatment

through genetic medicine. One has or doesn't have faith that in the

future that these treatments will extend life, repair genetic damage

or, in the case of Kurzweil, produce immortality. I, for one, think

that we should investigate genetic medicine, it has some great

possibilities, especially in such areas as cancer treatment. However,

some of the claims are fanciful.

Not discussing issues of faith, evidence and medicine is avoiding

some serious issues, in my opinion.

On Apr 1, 2005, at 12:00 PM, wrote:

> The same faith can be added to that of medicine as well as religion.

> When

> you have a chance check out this article by Dr. Charles Shang MD on

> points

> as mediators of growth and development.

>>>>> There is a big difference between faith and evidence, but for

>>>>> those that insist otherwise I am with there is no starting

>>>>> point for discussion.

>

April 1, 2005

There is no evidence on future predictions of disease treatment

through genetic medicine.

>>>>Zev, we already have treatments based on genes. So there is already

evidence. Otherwise i would have absolutely no interest

April 1, 2005

On some conditions, very limited in fact. But many others are proposed

that are mere speculations. That doesn't mean we shouldn't be

interested, however.

On Apr 1, 2005, at 2:47 PM, wrote:

> There is no evidence on future predictions of disease treatment

> through genetic medicine.

>>>>> Zev, we already have treatments based on genes. So there is

>>>>> already evidence. Otherwise i would have absolutely no interest

April 2, 2005

mike Bowser wrote:

> Alon,

> The same faith can be added to that of medicine as well as religion. When

> you have a chance check out this article by Dr. Charles Shang MD on points

> as mediators of growth and development.

>

> http://www.vxm.com/21R.65.html

>

> I hope that others will also post info of this nature and maybe we can

> create a database. Information is power.

>

Hi Mike!

Interesting idea. Database of links, or copy the article?

Regards,

Pete

April 2, 2005

When

> you have a chance check out this article by Dr. Charles Shang MD on points

> as mediators of growth and development.

>

>>>>>>>>>>>>Mike i reviewed these ideas in my book

April 2, 2005

Either

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

>Pete Theisen <petet

>Chinese Medicine

>Re: RE: channel reality

>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 21:56:27 -0500

>

>mike Bowser wrote:

> > Alon,

> > The same faith can be added to that of medicine as well as religion.

>When

> > you have a chance check out this article by Dr. Charles Shang MD on

>points

> > as mediators of growth and development.

> >

> > http://www.vxm.com/21R.65.html

> >

> > I hope that others will also post info of this nature and maybe we can

> > create a database. Information is power.

> >

>

>Hi Mike!

>

>Interesting idea. Database of links, or copy the article?

>

>Regards,

>

>Pete

April 3, 2005

Morphogenesis from the Greek morphe, form and genesis,

coming into being.

Pleomorphism is the theory of microorganisms and infectious

disease and is closely associated with .

Pleomorphism where cells/diseases, and especially one-celled

microorganisms, can change to cells/diseases of another

type. For example Pleomorphism in human cells might be the

morphing of skin cells to connective tissue cells, or of

blood cells to bone tissue. In TCM - Wood to Fire to Earth

to Metal to Water. Excess to Deficiency, Hot to Cold. yang

to Yin.

While Morphogenesis is highly respected and researched

western trend, Pleomorphism and TCM remain viewed as kooky.

A process of creating new organizational forms. In response

to changing environmental conditions morphogenesis may be

adaptive. [http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/ASC/MORPHOGENES.html]

All changes that involve growth, molting, and maturation are

known as morphogenesis.

[http://www.cals.ncsu.edu/course/ent425/tutorial/morphogenes

is.html]

Prostate Gland Branching Morphogenesis Database

http://www.ana.ed.ac.uk/anatomy/database/prosbase/proshome.h

tml

The vertebrae, ribs, and sternum all arise by different

signaling mechanisms. Axial Skeleton: Morphogenesis

http://www.brown.edu/Courses/BI0032/bone/axial4.htm

Channel reality does not rest upon the recognition of

" science " to be valid or to exist.

However, channel reality, helps to illuminate.

Nice article by the way Pete.

Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist

Acupuncture is a jab well done

www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA.

Fri, 01 Apr 2005 21:56:27 -0500

Pete Theisen <petet

Re: RE: channel reality

mike Bowser wrote:

> Alon,

> The same faith can be added to that of medicine as well as

religion. When

> you have a chance check out this article by Dr. Charles

Shang MD on points

> as mediators of growth and development.

>

> http://www.vxm.com/21R.65.html

>

> I hope that others will also post info of this nature and

maybe we can

> create a database. Information is power.

>

Hi Mike!

Interesting idea. Database of links, or copy the article?

Regards,

Pete

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