[pa-l] Biophotonics in the infrared spectral rangereveal acupuncture meridian structure of the body

[Guest guest]

'integrative medicine'

<<<<<Lets not forget that true integrative medicine is integrative thinking not

a little of this and a little of that.When you view it form that perspective the

options are much different

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

That's not how I would define the word 'fashion', but anyway. How much of

the 'original flavouring' of CM do you think there is left?

>>>>>

Attilio for which period? which CM? These are loosing arguments to start with

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I can open up

several commonly used texts and see western medical symtoms and diseases.

To me that is not the ancient classical medicine of which many speak. Due

to the educational systems we are forcing our graduates to learn both.

>>>>The integration was always there. There was foreign influence on CM

throughout its history. WM had strong influence on wen bing theory for example.

Should we dump wen bing?

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

" Foreign influence " is different than outright dilution of the

underlying theoretical foundation. I think it needs to be made clear

when a practitioner is using Chinese medical strategy or biomedical

strategy, not blurred.

 

 

On Mar 14, 2005, at 8:12 AM, wrote:

 

> I can open up

> several commonly used texts and see western medical symtoms and

> diseases.

> To me that is not the ancient classical medicine of which many speak.

> Due

> to the educational systems we are forcing our graduates to learn both.

>>>>> The integration was always there. There was foreign influence on

>>>>> CM throughout its history. WM had strong influence on wen bing

>>>>> theory for example. Should we dump wen bing?

>

[Guest guest]

The whole period.

 

Kind regards

 

Attilio D'Alberto

Doctor of (Beijing, China)

BSc (Hons) TCM MATCM

07786198900

attiliodalberto

<http://www.attiliodalberto.com/> www.attiliodalberto.com

 

 

[alonmarcus]

14 March 2005 16:05

Chinese Medicine

Re: Re: [pa-l] Biophotonics in the infrared spectral

rangereveal acupuncture meridian structure of the body

 

 

 

That's not how I would define the word 'fashion', but anyway. How much of

the 'original flavouring' of CM do you think there is left?

>>>>>

Attilio for which period? which CM? These are loosing arguments to start

with

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

No need. Just strongly reinforce the chinese medical concepts that many

still seem to be missing.

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

> " " <alonmarcus

>Chinese Medicine

><Chinese Medicine >

>Re: Re: [pa-l] Biophotonics in the infrared spectral

>rangereveal acupuncture meridian structure of the body

>Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:12:36 -0600

>

>

> I can open up

>several commonly used texts and see western medical symtoms and diseases.

>To me that is not the ancient classical medicine of which many speak. Due

>to the educational systems we are forcing our graduates to learn both.

> >>>>The integration was always there. There was foreign influence on CM

>throughout its history. WM had strong influence on wen bing theory for

>example. Should we dump wen bing?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mike, Alon,

Just to clarify my position again, which I've done several times in

the past, but still doesn't seem to register for some reason with some.

Whether one uses herbs, Chinese or Western, needles or drugs, or any

other modality, it is how the physician develops his diagnosis and

treatment strategy that determines, for me, what is Chinese medicine

and what is something else. One can use herbs and acupuncture

biomedically, or apply drugs or other treatments as part of an overall

Chinese medical treatment plan. One can absorb ideas from other

disciplines, medicinals from other lands, if one understands qi, yin

yang, and five phase theory very well. However, developing new ideas

needs clinical application and testing over time to become part of the

'body' of Chinese medicine. The Chinese adapted medicinals from India,

Tibet and the Middle East centuries ago, but it took time for their

qualities to be understood from a CM perspective and be adapted.

To sum up, it is how the physician thinks, diagnoses, develops

treatment strategies, and refers to source materials that determines

what he or she practices.

 

 

On Mar 14, 2005, at 6:52 PM, mike Bowser wrote:

 

> No need. Just strongly reinforce the chinese medical concepts that

> many

> still seem to be missing.

> Mike W. Bowser, L Ac