Biophotonics in the infrared spectral range reveal acupuncture meridian structure of the body

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

 

See abstract, below.

 

 

Is this another hyped up half-truth? Have any of you seen the full text?

Did they claim to see all 14 Channels in the expected anatomical

locations?

 

Phil

 

Schlebusch KP, Maric-Oehler W, Popp FA. Biophotonics in the infrared

spectral range reveal acupuncture meridian structure of the body. J

Altern Complement Med. 2005 Feb;11(1):171-3. International Institute

of Biophysics, Landesstiftung Hombroich, Neuss, Germany. This study

shows, for the first time, evidence of the existence of the acupuncture

meridian structure in the human body. After moxibustion (or similar light

stimulation) of the body in the 3-5 microm range, " light channels " appear

on the body, which appear to be identical to what are known as

meridians in all textbooks of Traditional . These

findings appear not only to confirm the existence of acupuncture

meridians, but they also open a new window on understanding the

energy transfer dynamics of the human body. Furthermore, it is likely

that living matter is not in the ground state, but permanently

electronically excited. PMID: 15750378 [PubMed - in process]

 

Best regards,

 

 

Tel: (H): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

 

 

 

 

Ireland.

Tel: (W): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

 

 

 

" Man who says it can't be done should not interrupt man doing it " -

Chinese Proverb

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Phil,

I find this concept fascinating and it makes sense. There was info reported

about Dr. Soh and his physiological studies of structures resembling the

pathways of the channels. In one of the experiments they conducted light

along a channel. More and more I am seeing a connection of biological

structure(s) and energetic phenomenon that I do not think we can ignore as

it can help us to shed light (my pun) on the biological processes we work

with and also to further show validity. I would like to get a copy of the

complete study if you are able to post it.

Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

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> Biophotonics in the infrared spectral range reveal

>acupuncture meridian structure of the body

>Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:28:40 -0000

>

>Hi All,

>

>See abstract, below.

>

>

>Is this another hyped up half-truth? Have any of you seen the full text?

>Did they claim to see all 14 Channels in the expected anatomical

>locations?

>

>Phil

>

>Schlebusch KP, Maric-Oehler W, Popp FA. Biophotonics in the infrared

>spectral range reveal acupuncture meridian structure of the body. J

>Altern Complement Med. 2005 Feb;11(1):171-3. International Institute

>of Biophysics, Landesstiftung Hombroich, Neuss, Germany. This study

>shows, for the first time, evidence of the existence of the acupuncture

>meridian structure in the human body. After moxibustion (or similar light

>stimulation) of the body in the 3-5 microm range, " light channels " appear

>on the body, which appear to be identical to what are known as

>meridians in all textbooks of Traditional . These

>findings appear not only to confirm the existence of acupuncture

>meridians, but they also open a new window on understanding the

>energy transfer dynamics of the human body. Furthermore, it is likely

>that living matter is not in the ground state, but permanently

>electronically excited. PMID: 15750378 [PubMed - in process]

>

>Best regards,

>

>

>Tel: (H): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

>

>

>

>

>Ireland.

>Tel: (W): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

>

>

>

> " Man who says it can't be done should not interrupt man doing it " -

>Chinese Proverb

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi All, & Emmanuel,

 

Emmanuel Segmen wrote:

> Hi Phil, I've read this paper and can see that it was accepted for

> " peer review " in the Journal of Alternative Complementary Medicine in

> Feb. of 2005. As you've heard me say many times in recent years, if

> you put something (anything) through the mill of Western science, what

> comes out of the hopper is Western science. Western science stands to

> grow from the experiments listed below ... if it had the courage and

> flexibility to do so. Chinese medicine stands to be " Westernized " ,

> and thus greatly reduced by such studies. If successfully accepted

> within the Western scientific community, such studies as these will

> cause CM to be " simply explained " by various scientific mechanisms.

> What, of course, would be more interesting would be if Western science

> managed to " grow " from such things. Perhaps new channels and

> regulatory mechanisms of homeostasis could be posited. For now I'll

> avoid cynicism and hope for the best. Respectfully, Emmanuel Segmen

 

Emmanuel, I agree with you. I had the dream of ONE MEDICINE - ONE

SCIENCE, but I am coming to believe that my dream is a hopeless

illusion.

 

Increasingly, western science & medicine is driven (funded, and

therefore, ultimately controlled) by capitalism (industry, commerce) and

the lust to exploit knowledge for monetary profit. The western machine

will not share power / resources other systems that are perceived to

compete for markets / resources.

 

I also agree that the future of Chinese medicine is grim. As you said, it

stands to be " Westernized " (even from WITHIN China),and thus greatly

reduced.

 

Should we be surprised? NO! The Law of Change is the ultimate law of

Chinese (and many other) philosophies. Humanity has never seen such

pace of social and scientific change as we have seen in the past 10-20

years. And the pace of change is accelerating.

 

There is no going back now, but maybe we can influence some aspects

of the future.

 

 

 

Best regards,

 

 

Tel: (H): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

 

 

 

 

Ireland.

Tel: (W): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

 

 

 

" Man who says it can't be done should not interrupt man doing it " -

Chinese Proverb

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Phil, Emmanuel,

I just watched a DVD of the Crossroads Guitar Festival in Dallas

last year, a collection of some of the greatest blues performers of all

time, from Hubert Sumlin to Eric Clapton to Duane Bramhall III. The

music survives intact, even though the deep Mississippi delta

conditions than inspired it have changed immeasurably from those that

inspired the music.

I feel the same way about Chinese medicine. The civilization and

conditions that inspired Chinese medicine have changed immeasurably as

well. However, like the blues, there is a lineage that potentially can

carry on the essence of this medicine, a soul to it that continues to

be transmitted to patients and students. I don't think it has to

'disappear', or blend in with Western medicine to survive. One just

needs to study the classical texts and apply them to clinical practice.

The essence of Chinese medicine survives in the Nan Jing, Nei Jing and

Shang Han Lun, and if we do not get caught in the fever of being

'modern', so we don't disdain the past, we can find the timeless moment

in the present that is inspired by the past and creates the future.

The secret of Chinese medicine has to do with the relationship of

human beings to the phenomenon we call time. It is right there, but we

are moving so fast in the modern world that sometimes we don't see it.

 

 

On Mar 13, 2005, at 9:46 AM, wrote:

 

>

> Hi All, & Emmanuel,

>

> Emmanuel Segmen wrote:

>> Hi Phil, I've read this paper and can see that it was accepted for

>> " peer review " in the Journal of Alternative Complementary Medicine in

>> Feb. of 2005. As you've heard me say many times in recent years, if

>> you put something (anything) through the mill of Western science, what

>> comes out of the hopper is Western science. Western science stands to

>> grow from the experiments listed below ... if it had the courage and

>> flexibility to do so. Chinese medicine stands to be " Westernized " ,

>> and thus greatly reduced by such studies. If successfully accepted

>> within the Western scientific community, such studies as these will

>> cause CM to be " simply explained " by various scientific mechanisms.

>> What, of course, would be more interesting would be if Western science

>> managed to " grow " from such things. Perhaps new channels and

>> regulatory mechanisms of homeostasis could be posited. For now I'll

>> avoid cynicism and hope for the best. Respectfully, Emmanuel Segmen

>

> Emmanuel, I agree with you. I had the dream of ONE MEDICINE - ONE

> SCIENCE, but I am coming to believe that my dream is a hopeless

> illusion.

>

> Increasingly, western science & medicine is driven (funded, and

> therefore, ultimately controlled) by capitalism (industry, commerce)

> and

> the lust to exploit knowledge for monetary profit. The western machine

> will not share power / resources other systems that are perceived to

> compete for markets / resources.

>

> I also agree that the future of Chinese medicine is grim. As you said,

> it

> stands to be " Westernized " (even from WITHIN China),and thus greatly

> reduced.

>

> Should we be surprised? NO! The Law of Change is the ultimate law of

> Chinese (and many other) philosophies. Humanity has never seen such

> pace of social and scientific change as we have seen in the past 10-20

> years. And the pace of change is accelerating.

>

> There is no going back now, but maybe we can influence some aspects

> of the future.

[Guest guest]

Hi Mike,

 

Mike Bowser wrote:

> Phil, I find this concept fascinating and it makes sense. There was

> info reported about Dr. Soh and his physiological studies of

> structures resembling the pathways of the channels. In one of the

> experiments they conducted light along a channel. More and more I am

> seeing a connection of biological structure(s) and energetic

> phenomenon that I do not think we can ignore as it can help us to shed

> light (my pun) on the biological processes we work with and also to

> further show validity. I would like to get a copy of the complete

> study if you are able to post it. Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

 

Unfortunately, I have the abstract only. See: http://tinyurl.com/5yxsp

 

You can get the full-text if you pay for it [click on the PDF links at the

bottom of that page]

 

 

 

 

 

Best regards,

 

 

Tel: (H): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

 

 

 

 

Ireland.

Tel: (W): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

 

 

 

" Man who says it can't be done should not interrupt man doing it " -

Chinese Proverb

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Phil,

Thanks for bringing this up. I hadn't heard of it yet, very

interesting. I am familiar somewhat with one of the investigators:

Fritz Albert Popp. He has done alot of research on light emissions

from the human body and discovered we emit coherent light, as does a

laser, and he has tested other things such as organic chicken eggs

vs. non-organic and found the organic to emit a more ordered or

coherent type of light. Low level laser acupuncture owes alot to his

research. There is a fascinating chapter in the book " The Field " by

Lynn McTaggart that talks about his and other scientists research on

humans and light.

I also find it fascinating that it may be the light emission from the

moxa and not necessarily (or in addition to ) the heat emission that

is producing effects on the body.

I don't see how this kind of research damages TCM in any way. I think

it is only helpful to us.

I think on the contrary, we can (only?) change the philosophical

orientation of western medicine through science. In my opinion

science in itself is not inherently bad, as some in our profession

seem to cringe whenever it arises, but it is the philosophical

context in which medicine is practiced.

Nicole

 

Chinese Medicine , " "

<@e...> wrote:

> Hi All,

>

> See abstract, below.

>

>

> Is this another hyped up half-truth? Have any of you seen the full

text?

> Did they claim to see all 14 Channels in the expected anatomical

> locations?

>

> Phil

>

> Schlebusch KP, Maric-Oehler W, Popp FA. Biophotonics in the

infrared

> spectral range reveal acupuncture meridian structure of the body. J

> Altern Complement Med. 2005 Feb;11(1):171-3. International

Institute

> of Biophysics, Landesstiftung Hombroich, Neuss, Germany. This

study

> shows, for the first time, evidence of the existence of the

acupuncture

> meridian structure in the human body. After moxibustion (or similar

light

> stimulation) of the body in the 3-5 microm range, " light channels "

appear

> on the body, which appear to be identical to what are known as

> meridians in all textbooks of Traditional . These

> findings appear not only to confirm the existence of acupuncture

> meridians, but they also open a new window on understanding the

> energy transfer dynamics of the human body. Furthermore, it is

likely

> that living matter is not in the ground state, but permanently

> electronically excited. PMID: 15750378 [PubMed - in process]

>

> Best regards,

>

>

> Tel: (H): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

> <@e...>;

>

>

>

> Ireland.

> Tel: (W): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

> <@e...>;

>

>

> " Man who says it can't be done should not interrupt man doing it " -

> Chinese Proverb

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I had run across some other research that shows some connection to this as

well. Dr. Kwang Soh has recently published physics research that confirms

the conduction of light along channel pathways. Scientists in the former

USSR also declared similar findings many years ago.

 

As for moxa, Dr. Kim Bonghan published findings in the 1950's that

discovered that movement in the channels ceases below 27 degrees C. The

jing luo stop circulating their substances below this point. This brings to

mind the concept and import of heat or yang within our being. In addition

to the chemical aspects there is a vibrating frequency as reported in Dr.

Kim's research. This would seem to be a good example of the wave-particle

duality at its best. Maybe both light and heat are impacting our patients

health.

 

> " nicolehohmann " <nicolehohmann

>Chinese Medicine

>Chinese Medicine

> Re: Biophotonics in the infrared spectral range reveal

>acupuncture meridian structure of the body

>Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:58:38 -0000

>

>

>Phil,

>Thanks for bringing this up. I hadn't heard of it yet, very

>interesting. I am familiar somewhat with one of the investigators:

>Fritz Albert Popp. He has done alot of research on light emissions

>from the human body and discovered we emit coherent light, as does a

>laser, and he has tested other things such as organic chicken eggs

>vs. non-organic and found the organic to emit a more ordered or

>coherent type of light. Low level laser acupuncture owes alot to his

>research. There is a fascinating chapter in the book " The Field " by

>Lynn McTaggart that talks about his and other scientists research on

>humans and light.

>I also find it fascinating that it may be the light emission from the

>moxa and not necessarily (or in addition to ) the heat emission that

>is producing effects on the body.

>I don't see how this kind of research damages TCM in any way. I think

>it is only helpful to us.

>I think on the contrary, we can (only?) change the philosophical

>orientation of western medicine through science. In my opinion

>science in itself is not inherently bad, as some in our profession

>seem to cringe whenever it arises, but it is the philosophical

>context in which medicine is practiced.

>Nicole

>

>Chinese Medicine , " "

><@e...> wrote:

> > Hi All,

> >

> > See abstract, below.

> >

> >

> > Is this another hyped up half-truth? Have any of you seen the full

>text?

> > Did they claim to see all 14 Channels in the expected anatomical

> > locations?

> >

> > Phil

> >

> > Schlebusch KP, Maric-Oehler W, Popp FA. Biophotonics in the

>infrared

> > spectral range reveal acupuncture meridian structure of the body. J

> > Altern Complement Med. 2005 Feb;11(1):171-3. International

>Institute

> > of Biophysics, Landesstiftung Hombroich, Neuss, Germany. This

>study

> > shows, for the first time, evidence of the existence of the

>acupuncture

> > meridian structure in the human body. After moxibustion (or similar

>light

> > stimulation) of the body in the 3-5 microm range, " light channels "

>appear

> > on the body, which appear to be identical to what are known as

> > meridians in all textbooks of Traditional . These

> > findings appear not only to confirm the existence of acupuncture

> > meridians, but they also open a new window on understanding the

> > energy transfer dynamics of the human body. Furthermore, it is

>likely

> > that living matter is not in the ground state, but permanently

> > electronically excited. PMID: 15750378 [PubMed - in process]

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> >

> > Tel: (H): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

> > <@e...>;

> >

> >

> >

> > Ireland.

> > Tel: (W): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

> > <@e...>;

> >

> >

> > " Man who says it can't be done should not interrupt man doing it " -

> > Chinese Proverb

> >

> >

> >