Zhe Chong Yin--need info

[Guest guest]

Thad,

 

All I have on zhe chong yin is from Hsu. I have not used it:

Source:San Ron Compiler: Genyetsu Kagawa

 

Functions: Tonifies & nourishes blood, disperses stagnant blood, &

promotes circulation of blood.

 

Indications

Traditional: Subacute or chronic pain in lower abdomen and pelvis

due to stagnant blood.

Modern: Irregular menstruation, inlflammation of uterus and related

organs, painful menstruation due to retroflexion of uterus,

inflammation of pelvic region.

 

Sorry I can't be of more help. It appears to be a well constructed

formula.

Warren Sheir

 

 

 

, " badumpbump " <badumpbump>

wrote:

>

>

> I'm looking for some information on the formula " Zhe Chong Yin, "

> aka " Cinnamon and Persica Combination. " It doesn't seem to be in

any

> texts that I have, nor can I find much about it online. Does anyone

> have any info on it or know where I can find out more about it? I

> know its constituents, that it's a derivative of Tao Hong Si Wu

Tang,

> and that it's apparently used a lot in Japan.

>

> Also, has anyone had any results using it with dysmenorrhea?

>

> Thanks,

> Thad

[Guest guest]

Zhe chong yin would be more accurately translated with an English

name that reflects its Chinese name to avoid confusion (since zhe

chong in pinyin is also the name of an insect used in Chinese

medicine, tu bie chong). Literally, the formula name means " break

thoroughfare [i.e., chong vessel] beverage. "

 

Ingredients and proportions (granules): taoren 5, danggui 5, mudanpi

5, chuanxiong 3, shaoyao (unspecified red or white peony) 3, guizhi

3, yanhusuo 2, niuxi 2, honghua 1.

 

Actions: dispels stasis and quickens the blood, transforms

accumulations and dissipates stagnation.

 

Indications: Female gynecological disorders, dizzy vision

(dizziness) and headache, aching lumbus and abdominal pain, blood

conglomerations and stasis binds, possibly with block or

irregularities of menstruation.

 

The Chinese book I am referred to is called (more or less) " clinical

handbook of frequently used chinese medicinal formulas, " by Li Shi

Cang. It is a famous book in Taiwan for its dui yao information.

 

Hope that helps.

 

Eric Brand

 

n , " wsheir " <wsheir> wrote:

>

> Thad,

>

> All I have on zhe chong yin is from Hsu. I have not used it:

> Source:San Ron Compiler: Genyetsu Kagawa

>

> Functions: Tonifies & nourishes blood, disperses stagnant blood, &

> promotes circulation of blood.

>

> Indications

> Traditional: Subacute or chronic pain in lower abdomen and

pelvis

> due to stagnant blood.

> Modern: Irregular menstruation, inlflammation of uterus and

related

> organs, painful menstruation due to retroflexion of uterus,

> inflammation of pelvic region.

>

> Sorry I can't be of more help. It appears to be a well constructed

> formula.

> Warren Sheir

>

>

>

> , " badumpbump " <badumpbump>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > I'm looking for some information on the formula " Zhe Chong Yin, "

> > aka " Cinnamon and Persica Combination. " It doesn't seem to be in

> any

> > texts that I have, nor can I find much about it online. Does

anyone

> > have any info on it or know where I can find out more about it?

I

> > know its constituents, that it's a derivative of Tao Hong Si Wu

> Tang,

> > and that it's apparently used a lot in Japan.

> >

> > Also, has anyone had any results using it with dysmenorrhea?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Thad

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your help, Warren. Is this text in English?

 

thad

>

> Thad,

>

> All I have on zhe chong yin is from Hsu. I have not used it:

> Source:San Ron Compiler: Genyetsu Kagawa

>

> Functions: Tonifies & nourishes blood, disperses stagnant blood, &

> promotes circulation of blood.

>

> Indications

> Traditional: Subacute or chronic pain in lower abdomen and pelvis

> due to stagnant blood.

> Modern: Irregular menstruation, inlflammation of uterus and

related

> organs, painful menstruation due to retroflexion of uterus,

> inflammation of pelvic region.

>

> Sorry I can't be of more help. It appears to be a well constructed

> formula.

> Warren Sheir

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the great info Re: Zhe Chong Yin, Eric. Does the text

you're referring to mention anything about its chief, assistants, etc?

And, have you had a chance to use it?

 

Thanks,

thad ekdahl

[Guest guest]

Does anyone have any information or evidence on the efficacy of the

formula " Zhe Chong Yin? " I'm looking for information on it and know

of only 2 texts that mention it: one by Li Shi Cang and the other by

Hsu, compiled by G. Kagawa.

 

Is anyone familiar with its history, chief constituents, how commonly

it's used, or other texts where information can be found about it?

 

Thanks,

Thad Ekdahl

[Guest guest]

It is first mentioned in the chan3 lun4, " treatise on childbirth. "

 

Eric Brand

 

Chinese Medicine , " badumpbump "

<badumpbump> wrote:

>

> Does anyone have any information or evidence on the efficacy of

the

> formula " Zhe Chong Yin? " I'm looking for information on it and

know

> of only 2 texts that mention it: one by Li Shi Cang and the other

by

> Hsu, compiled by G. Kagawa.

>

> Is anyone familiar with its history, chief constituents, how

commonly

> it's used, or other texts where information can be found about it?

>

> Thanks,

> Thad Ekdahl

[Guest guest]

Hi Thad, & All,

 

> Does anyone have any information or evidence on the efficacy of

> the formula " Zhe Chong Yin? " I'm looking for information on it and

> know of only 2 texts that mention it: one by Li Shi Cang and the

> other by Hsu, compiled by G. Kagawa. Is anyone familiar with its

> history, chief constituents, how commonly it's used, or other

> texts where information can be found about it? Thanks, Thad

> Ekdahl

 

Google has a few hits for " Zhe Chong Yin " (Cinnamon & Persica

Combination).

 

Crane Herbs [ http://www.craneherb.com/Products/Product009754

] says:

 

Ingredient (%) | Taoren 17.5; Danggui (Shen) 17.5; Baishao 10.5;

Guizhi 10.5; Chuanxiong 10.5; Mudanpi (Su) 10.5; Yanhusuo 8.8;

Niuxi (Chuan) 8.8; Honghua 5.4

Channels | No data available

Properties | No data available

Tastes | No data available

Western Signs, Symptoms & Disease Categories | Menses-

Painful; Menses- Late; Menstrual Block; Menses-Clots; Menses-

Irregular; Pelvic Inflammatory Disease; Post-Miscarriage-Bleeding;

Post-Miscarriage-Blood Stasis Pain; Pregnancy-Clotted Blood;

Abdomen-Stabbing Pain; Adomen-Accumulations; Fibroid

Tumors; Uterine-Fibroids; Uterine-Functional Bleeding;

Inflammation- Fallopian Tubes

Chinese Patterns | None Listed

Tongue Signs | None Listed

Pulse Signs | None Listed

Contraindications | None Listed

 

Subhuti has an article on it. It says: The Japanese herbalist

Kagawa Genyetsu (1700-1777), who specialized in gynecology

and obstetrics, adjusted the original formulation according to the

model of traditional formulas in the Shanghan Lun yielding Zhe

Chong Yin (Cinnamon and Persica Combination), a formula still

used in Japan (6): Ingredients (in g): (Danggui 15; Baishao 9;

Chuanxiong 9; Mudanpi 9; Guizhi 9g; Taoren 6; Honghua 4). The

main adjustment is replacing rehmannia with cinnamon and

moutan, which are considered aids to vitalizing blood circulation.

Cinnamon (the twig is used) opens the meridians and alleviates

pain. The formula has the same indications as Tao Hong Siwu

Tang but is also used in Japan for treating inflammatory disorders

of the pelvic organs, such as uterine inflammation and peritonitis.

Kagawa indicated it additionally for treatment of blood stasis

following pregnancy, miscarriage, or spontaneous abortion.

Moutan is used here to vitalize blood and clear heat. This

formulation is similar to a prescription of the Jingui Yaolue, Guizhi

Fuling Wan (Cinnamon and Hoelen Formula), made with

cinnamon, peony, moutan, persica, and hoelen. In Japan,

Cinnamon and Hoelen Formula is the most frequently used

therapy for abdominal blood stasis and its secondary

manifestations (e.g., heat disorders, mental distress, abdominal

pain).

 

For further details, see: http://www.itmonline.org/arts/persica.htm

 

[Note by Phil: Yanhusuo & Niuxi (Chuan), as in the Crane Herb

Formula, are omitted in Subhuti's article, and the ratios of the

herbs in common differ from those in the Crane Herb Comb].

 

 

Best regards,

 

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[Guest guest]

, " badumpbump "

<badumpbump> wrote:

>

>

> Thanks for the great info Re: Zhe Chong Yin, Eric. Does the text

> you're referring to mention anything about its chief, assistants,

etc?

 

The book I used doesn't have the information organized in that way.

 

> And, have you had a chance to use it?

 

I have not specifically used it. It has a number of very closely

related formulas which are generally effective. If the presentation

fits the construction of the formula, it should work.

 

Eric

 

 

 

> Thanks,

> thad ekdahl

[Guest guest]

Hi Thad, & All,

 

> Does anyone have any information or evidence on the efficacy of the

> formula " Zhe Chong Yin? " I'm looking for information on it and know

> of only 2 texts that mention it: one by Li Shi Cang and the other

> by Hsu, compiled by G. Kagawa. Is anyone familiar with its

> history, chief constituents, how commonly it's used, or other

> texts where information can be found about it? Thanks,

> Thad Ekdahl

 

Google has a few hits for " Zhe Chong Yin " (Cinnamon & Persica Combination).

 

Crane Herbs [ http://www.craneherb.com/Products/Product009754 ] says:

 

Ingredient (%) | Taoren 17.5; Danggui (Shen) 17.5; Baishao 10.5; Guizhi 10.5;

Chuanxiong 10.5; Mudanpi (Su) 10.5; Yanhusuo 8.8; Niuxi (Chuan) 8.8;

Honghua 5.4

Channels | No data available

Properties | No data available

Tastes | No data available

Western Signs, Symptoms & Disease Categories | Menses-Painful; Menses-

Late; Menstrual Block; Menses-Clots; Menses-Irregular; Pelvic Inflammatory

Disease; Post-Miscarriage-Bleeding; Post-Miscarriage-Blood Stasis Pain;

Pregnancy-Clotted Blood; Abdomen-Stabbing Pain; Adomen-Accumulations;

Fibroid Tumors; Uterine-Fibroids; Uterine-Functional Bleeding; Inflammation-

Fallopian Tubes

Chinese Patterns | None Listed

Tongue Signs | None Listed

Pulse Signs | None Listed

Contraindications | None Listed

 

Subhuti has an article on it. It says: The Japanese herbalist Kagawa Genyetsu

(1700-1777), who specialized in gynecology and obstetrics, adjusted the

original formulation according to the model of traditional formulas in the

Shanghan Lun yielding Zhe Chong Yin (Cinnamon and Persica Combination), a

formula still used in Japan (6): Ingredients (in g): (Danggui 15; Baishao 9;

Chuanxiong 9; Mudanpi 9; Guizhi 9g; Taoren 6; Honghua 4). The main

adjustment is replacing rehmannia with cinnamon and moutan, which are

considered aids to vitalizing blood circulation. Cinnamon (the twig is used)

opens the meridians and alleviates pain. The formula has the same indications

as Tao Hong Siwu Tang but is also used in Japan for treating inflammatory

disorders of the pelvic organs, such as uterine inflammation and peritonitis.

Kagawa indicated it additionally for treatment of blood stasis following

pregnancy, miscarriage, or spontaneous abortion. Moutan is used here to

vitalize blood and clear heat. This formulation is similar to a prescription of

the

Jingui Yaolue, Guizhi Fuling Wan (Cinnamon and Hoelen Formula), made with

cinnamon, peony, moutan, persica, and hoelen. In Japan, Cinnamon and

Hoelen Formula is the most frequently used therapy for abdominal blood stasis

and its secondary manifestations (e.g., heat disorders, mental distress,

abdominal pain).

 

For further details, see: http://www.itmonline.org/arts/persica.htm

 

[Note by Phil: Yanhusuo & Niuxi (Chuan), as in the Crane Herb Formula, are

omitted in Subhuti's article, and the ratios of the herbs in common differ from

those in the Crane Herb Comb].

 

Best regards,

 

Email: <

 

WORK : Teagasc, c/o 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland

Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0]

 

HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland

Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0]

WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm

 

Chinese Proverb: " Man who says it can't be done, should not interrupt man doing

it "