Guest guest Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 Attilio Yes....running cupping and possibly more importantly GuaSha especially if one uses appropriate topical Chinese herbs to disperse. Richard In a message dated 11/16/2004 7:16:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, attiliodalberto writes: Hi all, I heard that you can treat cellulite using running cupping. Has anyone heard of this or know any good TCM methods to treat cellulite? Attilio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 As example for chronic Yin skin type problems - goiter, scrofula, subcutaneous nodules Ban Xia can be used with Kun Bu, Hai Zao, Chuan Bei Mu either internally or topically. But topically use Sheng Ban Xia as it is much better in function. For joint pain - powder Sheng Ban Xia and mix with rice wine.....put on joint to stop pain. Can also mix Sheng Ban Xia powder with raw egg and put on topically for chronic yin skin problems. Sheng Bai Jie Zi to invigorate qi circulation, disperse nodules, open channels, and stop pain. Can use topically mixed with rice wine to make a cake o rmix powder and put into moxa. Sheng Nan Xing Can be prepared with ginger juice (Zhi Nan Xing) and alum. Can be used for heat-phlegm balanced with Hunag Qin or Gua Lou. Dries dampness and expels tough sticky phlegn. Disperses wind-phlegm in channels, stops spasms, reduces swellings, alleviates pain. Tian Nan Xing with Tian Ma can be used topically for wind-phlegm as seen in hemiplegia, hypertension, etc. Bie Xie - can be used topically for skin damp problems such as in eczema. This list is just a beginning....there is much more. Richard In a message dated 11/16/2004 9:58:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, aryaone writes: Can you name some topical herbs? Would dearly like to become familiar with these. Dr. Holmes Keikobad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 Hi all, I heard that you can treat cellulite using running cupping. Has anyone heard of this or know any good TCM methods to treat cellulite? Attilio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 Hi Attilio ! This is a verry efective traetment, i do in my clinic : http://www.mtc.es/congresos/viicongres_sp/pedrochoysp.pdf CLINICA Centro de Medicina Oriental Dr.H.Peter Nussbaumer Acupunctura,Laserterapia,Shiatsu, 351- 269 827272 351-967044284 medoriental http://www.vistaprint.de/frfde?frf=705086129198 ---- Chinese Medicine 11/16/04 12:11:31 Chinese Medicine Cellulite and Running Cupping Hi all, I heard that you can treat cellulite using running cupping. Has anyone heard of this or know any good TCM methods to treat cellulite? Attilio http://babel.altavista.com/ http://groups. com and adjust accordingly. If you , it takes a few days for the messages to stop being delivered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 > I heard that you can treat cellulite using running cupping. Has > anyone heard of this or know any good TCM methods to treat cellulite? > > Attilio > > Won't be a good idea to " abrade " cellulite with cold cupping, thing won't ,move readily and trauma may cause more extracellular extravasation and fluid compaction. Since the condition is literally " yellow congealed " and by nature greasy, a simple heat based liniment coupled with punctuated heating of cold spots will loosen tissue and then cupping will give fair results. As a final consideration one must work out where to move cellulite. If one moves to the reverse one is sending an unnatural substance into a natural pathway. If one moves to the forward one is sending an unnatural substance into a unnatural pathway setting up a precedence. Sort of between the Devilish gentleman and the deep sea. Dr. Holmes Keikobad MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ www.acu-free.com - 15 CEUS by video. NCCAOM reviewed. Approved in CA & most states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 Can you name some topical herbs? Would dearly like to become familiar with these. Dr. Holmes Keikobad MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ www.acu-free.com - 15 CEUS by video. NCCAOM reviewed. Approved in CA & most states. - <acudoc11 <Chinese Medicine > Tuesday, November 16, 2004 6:29 AM Re: Cellulite and Running Cupping > > Attilio > > Yes....running cupping and possibly more importantly GuaSha especially if > one > uses appropriate topical Chinese herbs to disperse. > > Richard > > In a message dated 11/16/2004 7:16:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, > attiliodalberto writes: > Hi all, > > I heard that you can treat cellulite using running cupping. Has > anyone heard of this or know any good TCM methods to treat cellulite? > > Attilio > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 I usually deal with subcutaneous nodules, spongy, hardish, India Rubbery consistency. These lie on ST channel in the main; on LU nearer LU 5 Japanese location, on HT 3, again Japanese location [don't know if Japnese is the right term]. Sometimes there is a matting of smallish sago-sized nodules at LU 5. K 9 Japanese location which is inferior by a cun to the conventional position, presents as a wider [1.5 to 2 cm] disk, flattish, no graining. Most cases fall into: LU yin def - LV yang rising HT yin def - LI yang rising but mainly presenting as LU yin def ST True qi def - most symptoms are ST based and belatedly SP Suggest a topical from these? Dr. Holmes Keikobad MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ www.acu-free.com - 15 CEUS by video. NCCAOM reviewed. Approved in CA & most states. - <acudoc11 <Chinese Medicine > Tuesday, November 16, 2004 9:26 AM Re: Cellulite and Running Cupping > > As example for chronic Yin skin type problems - goiter, scrofula, > subcutaneous nodules Ban Xia can be used with Kun Bu, Hai Zao, Chuan Bei > Mu either > internally or topically. But topically use Sheng Ban Xia as it is much > better in > function. > > For joint pain - powder Sheng Ban Xia and mix with rice wine.....put on > joint > to stop pain. Can also mix Sheng Ban Xia powder with raw egg and put on > topically for chronic yin skin problems. > > Sheng Bai Jie Zi to invigorate qi circulation, disperse nodules, open > channels, and stop pain. Can use topically mixed with rice wine to make a > cake o rmix > powder and put into moxa. > > Sheng Nan Xing > Can be prepared with ginger juice (Zhi Nan Xing) and alum. Can be used for > heat-phlegm balanced with Hunag Qin or Gua Lou. Dries dampness and expels > tough > sticky phlegn. Disperses wind-phlegm in channels, stops spasms, reduces > swellings, alleviates pain. > > Tian Nan Xing with Tian Ma can be used topically for wind-phlegm as seen > in > hemiplegia, hypertension, etc. > > Bie Xie - can be used topically for skin damp problems such as in eczema. > > This list is just a beginning....there is much more. > > Richard > > > In a message dated 11/16/2004 9:58:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, > aryaone writes: > Can you name some topical herbs? > Would dearly like to become familiar with these. > Dr. Holmes Keikobad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2004 Report Share Posted November 17, 2004 Dr.H.Peter wrote: > > Hi Attilio ! > > This is a verry efective traetment, i do in my clinic : Hi Dr. Peter! If it isn't a secret, could you bang together a little description of it in English for those of us who don't read Spanish that well? Thanks. Regards, Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2004 Report Share Posted November 17, 2004 > Re: Cellulite and Running Cupping I'd love to know more detail about the protocol for running cupping for cellulite. I'd also be interested in knowing about your successes. Also Richard wrote cupping alone won't accomplish the task fully. a combination of therapies including a form of GuaSha, along with heat, along with herbs. Could you share your protocols and successful experiences? Thanks, Sharon Sharon Weizenbaum 86 Henry Street Amherst, MA 01002 413-549-4021 sweiz www.whitepinehealingarts.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2004 Report Share Posted November 18, 2004 Sharon I believe I have to a fair extent. So not to bother anyone with hearing it again maybe you can first go to archives and coupled with that I can take you through it.... off group. regards, Richard In a message dated 11/17/2004 10:57:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, sweiz writes: > Re: Cellulite and Running Cupping I'd love to know more detail about the protocol for running cupping for cellulite. I'd also be interested in knowing about your successes. Also Richard wrote cupping alone won't accomplish the task fully. a combination of therapies including a form of GuaSha, along with heat, along with herbs. Could you share your protocols and successful experiences? Thanks, Sharon Sharon Weizenbaum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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