Care homes sedating Alzheimer patients with 'chemical cosh' leads to early death

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Care homes sedating Alzheimer patients with 'chemical cosh' which could lead to early death

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By JENNY HOPE February 4, 2008

Dangerous drugs are being prescribed to sedate thousands of Alzheimer's sufferers in care homes, campaigners claimed yesterday.

An official inquiry will be told today that the use of the so-called "chemical cosh" has serious side effects and can even lead to premature death.

The campaigners say that dementia patients with behavioural problems are being "killed" to make life easier for staff looking after them.

The antipsychotic drugs at the centre of the claims are not licensed for the treatment of Alzheimer's and instead are prescribed to control agitation, delusions, sleep disturbance and aggression.

Growing concern about the misuse of antipsychotic drugs has led to the inquiry by the all-party parliamentary group on dementia.

 

Typical drugs used for dementia symptoms are Largactil, Serenace, Stelazine and Risperdal, which were originally designed to treat schizophrenia patients.

An estimated 45 per cent of the Alzheimer's sufferers who live in care homes are given the drugs - around 100,000 in all.

Campaigners are concerned that antipsychotic drugs will cause distress to Alzheimer patients rather than helping them.

A long-term study last year showed that patients treated with the medication die on average six months earlier than those who are not.

After three years, only a third of patients taking the drugs were alive compared with two thirds of those not taking them.

The drugs were also linked to a significant deterioration in speaking and thinking abilities.

U.S. research found that antipsychotic drugs trigger strokes, heart disease and falls among dementia patients.

Health Service guidelines allow their use only as a last resort when non-drug methods have failed.

A ban imposed last year on anti-dementia drugs for patients with anything other than moderate symptoms is thought to be behind the increased demand for antipsychotics.

Among those giving evidence at the parliamentary group's two-day inquiry are members of the Royal College of Psychiatrists, private care home managers and experts from the Alzheimer's Society.

Neil Hunt, chief executive of the society, said: "Thousands of people with dementia are routinely prescribed dangerous antipsychotic drugs, increasing their chance of death and causing distressing side effects such as excessive sedation, motor problems and dizziness.

"These drugs should only be used as a last resort when all other options have been exhausted.

"The all-party parliamentary group inquiry into the use of antipsychotic drugs in care homes is an important step in understanding the scale of this serious problem."

Harriet Millward, deputy chief executive of the Alzheimer's Research Trust, said: "We have serious concerns about the long-term use of antipsychotics in people with dementia.

"We want doctors to try to replace these drugs with safer management approaches.

"The latest research funded by the Alzheimer's Research Trust suggests that most patients with Alzheimer's on long-term antipsychotic treatment would benefit from having the drugs withdrawn.

"Disturbingly, people on the drugs were shown to have died on average six months earlier.

The use of so-called 'chemical cosh' treatments for patients with dementia is deeply troubling."

She said antipsychotics should continue only in dementia patients with severe behavioural symptoms which can put the patient and carer at risk.

"We need to develop better treatments - with more research funding we could produce better drugs that are fit for purpose," she added.

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True.

 

Not only Alzheimer patients - just "elderly" patients.

 

Jane

 

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Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:07 AM

Care homes sedating Alzheimer patients with 'chemical cosh' leads to early death

 

Care homes sedating Alzheimer patients with 'chemical cosh' which could lead to early death

Medicine Alternatives | Psychiatry | Toxic substances

 

DailyMail

http://tinyurl.com/32hfbr

By JENNY HOPE February 4, 2008

Dangerous drugs are being prescribed to sedate thousands of Alzheimer's sufferers in care homes, campaigners claimed yesterday.

An official inquiry will be told today that the use of the so-called "chemical cosh" has serious side effects and can even lead to premature death.

The campaigners say that dementia patients with behavioural problems are being "killed" to make life easier for staff looking after them.

The antipsychotic drugs at the centre of the claims are not licensed for the treatment of Alzheimer's and instead are prescribed to control agitation, delusions, sleep disturbance and aggression.

Growing concern about the misuse of antipsychotic drugs has led to the inquiry by the all-party parliamentary group on dementia.

 

Typical drugs used for dementia symptoms are Largactil, Serenace, Stelazine and Risperdal, which were originally designed to treat schizophrenia patients.

An estimated 45 per cent of the Alzheimer's sufferers who live in care homes are given the drugs - around 100,000 in all.

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They call it "chemical restraints" Which used to be unethical and illegal. Is common place now in most facilities. Is so much easier than keeping them occupied with the activity programs they tell the public they use. They also do it with the mentally ill.

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Jane MacRoss

Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:02 AM

Re: Care homes sedating Alzheimer patients with 'chemical cosh' leads to early death

 

 

 

True.

 

Not only Alzheimer patients - just "elderly" patients.

 

Jane

 

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Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:07 AM

Care homes sedating Alzheimer patients with 'chemical cosh' leads to early death

 

Care homes sedating Alzheimer patients with 'chemical cosh' which could lead to early death

Medicine Alternatives | Psychiatry | Toxic substances

 

DailyMail

http://tinyurl.com/32hfbr

By JENNY HOPE February 4, 2008

Dangerous drugs are being prescribed to sedate thousands of Alzheimer's sufferers in care homes, campaigners claimed yesterday.

An official inquiry will be told today that the use of the so-called "chemical cosh" has serious side effects and can even lead to premature death.

The campaigners say that dementia patients with behavioural problems are being "killed" to make life easier for staff looking after them.

The antipsychotic drugs at the centre of the claims are not licensed for the treatment of Alzheimer's and instead are prescribed to control agitation, delusions, sleep disturbance and aggression.

Growing concern about the misuse of antipsychotic drugs has led to the inquiry by the all-party parliamentary group on dementia.

Typical drugs used for dementia symptoms are Largactil, Serenace, Stelazine and Risperdal, which were originally designed to treat schizophrenia patients.

An estimated 45 per cent of the Alzheimer's sufferers who live in care homes are given the drugs - around 100,000 in all.

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Here you need a medical certificate to get a chemical restraint for a patient in a Nursing Home and you need the family or POA to agree to it too, probably with a family meeting prior to it happening. And they have activity programmes - quite extensive ones - here otherwise Aged Care Facilities don't pass the required government standards tests and then are not approved to continue and can be closed.

 

The best advocate for good Aged Care Facilities comes from the US - Dr Bill Thomas - Eden Alternative - I admire him greatly. I doubt he would ever approve sedation for any patient for restraint.

 

Jane

 

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Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:58 PM

Re: Care homes sedating Alzheimer patients with 'chemical cosh' leads to early death

 

They call it "chemical restraints" Which used to be unethical and illegal. Is common place now in most facilities. Is so much easier than keeping them occupied with the activity programs they tell the public they use. They also do it with the mentally ill.

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Jane MacRoss

Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:02 AM

Re: Care homes sedating Alzheimer patients with 'chemical cosh' leads to early death

 

 

 

True.

 

Not only Alzheimer patients - just "elderly" patients.

 

Jane

 

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NWRaven

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Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:07 AM

Care homes sedating Alzheimer patients with 'chemical cosh' leads to early death

 

Care homes sedating Alzheimer patients with 'chemical cosh' which could lead to early death

Medicine Alternatives | Psychiatry | Toxic substances

 

DailyMail

http://tinyurl.com/32hfbr

By JENNY HOPE February 4, 2008

Dangerous drugs are being prescribed to sedate thousands of Alzheimer's sufferers in care homes, campaigners claimed yesterday.

An official inquiry will be told today that the use of the so-called "chemical cosh" has serious side effects and can even lead to premature death.

The campaigners say that dementia patients with behavioural problems are being "killed" to make life easier for staff looking after them.

The antipsychotic drugs at the centre of the claims are not licensed for the treatment of Alzheimer's and instead are prescribed to control agitation, delusions, sleep disturbance and aggression.

Growing concern about the misuse of antipsychotic drugs has led to the inquiry by the all-party parliamentary group on dementia.

Typical drugs used for dementia symptoms are Largactil, Serenace, Stelazine and Risperdal, which were originally designed to treat schizophrenia patients.

An estimated 45 per cent of the Alzheimer's sufferers who live in care homes are given the drugs - around 100,000 in all.

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They have been doing that in nursing homes here for years and years...no one has stopped them...not to mention people who fall and hurt themselves and ambulance called many hours later. I used to be an EMT. If I thought Ron Paul had a snow balls chance in ...., but I don't want to make my vote useless at this point. I like him, but no one wants to listen to the guy who tells the truth like it is, never have.Nan <blueslady1 wrote: They call it "chemical restraints" Which used to be unethical and

illegal. Is common place now in most facilities. Is so much easier than keeping them occupied with the activity programs they tell the public they use. They also do it with the mentally ill. VOTE RON PAUL for FREEDOMIf this does not convert you nothing will.Please watch:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxldrCsVByA & feature=relatedPlease watch: One Nation Under Siegehttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7455325731648062338 - Jane MacRoss Thursday, February 14, 2008 2:02 AM Re: Care homes sedating Alzheimer patients with 'chemical cosh' leads to early death True. Not only Alzheimer patients - just "elderly" patients. Jane ----- Original

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which could lead to early death Medicine Alternatives | Psychiatry | Toxic substances DailyMail http://tinyurl.com/32hfbr By JENNY HOPE February 4, 2008 Dangerous drugs are being prescribed to sedate thousands of Alzheimer's sufferers in care homes, campaigners claimed yesterday. An official inquiry will be told today that the use of the so-called "chemical cosh" has serious side effects and can even

lead to premature death. The campaigners say that dementia patients with behavioural problems are being "killed" to make life easier for staff looking after them. The antipsychotic drugs at the centre of the claims are not licensed for the treatment of Alzheimer's and instead are prescribed to control agitation, delusions, sleep disturbance and aggression. Growing concern about the misuse of antipsychotic drugs has led to the inquiry by the all-party parliamentary group on dementia. Typical drugs used for dementia symptoms are Largactil, Serenace, Stelazine and Risperdal, which were originally designed to treat schizophrenia patients. An estimated 45 per cent of the Alzheimer's sufferers who live in care homes are given the drugs -

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Oh. and tying them in chairs so they won't wander around. My Dad went to visit my aunt and found her tied in a chair.Jane MacRoss <highfield1 wrote: True. Not only Alzheimer patients - just "elderly" patients. Jane - NWRaven 1 @ ; 1 MedicalConspiracies@googlegrou Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:07 AM Care homes sedating Alzheimer patients with 'chemical cosh' leads to early death Care homes sedating Alzheimer patients with 'chemical cosh' which could lead to early death Medicine Alternatives | Psychiatry | Toxic substances DailyMail http://tinyurl.com/32hfbr By JENNY HOPE February 4, 2008 Dangerous drugs are being prescribed to sedate thousands of Alzheimer's sufferers in care

homes, campaigners claimed yesterday. An official inquiry will be told today that the use of the so-called "chemical cosh" has serious side effects and can even lead to premature death. The campaigners say that dementia patients with behavioural problems are being "killed" to make life easier for staff looking after them. The antipsychotic drugs at the centre of the claims are not licensed for the treatment of Alzheimer's and instead are prescribed to control agitation, delusions, sleep disturbance and aggression. Growing concern about the misuse of antipsychotic drugs has led to the inquiry by the all-party parliamentary group on dementia. Typical drugs used for dementia symptoms are Largactil, Serenace, Stelazine and Risperdal,

which were originally designed to treat schizophrenia patients. An estimated 45 per cent of the Alzheimer's sufferers who live in care homes are given the drugs - around 100,000 in all.

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Louise you said:

If I thought Ron Paul had a snow balls chance in ...., but I don't want to make my vote useless at this point.

 

Awww how awefull.... how many think he doesn't have a snowballs chance???? IF YOU ALL VOTED FOR HIM...... well then HE WOULD have a chance and a darned good chance at that................

 

What are your options?

 

Curious I am

 

Clare

 

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What ordinary rubbish......what will your vote on any one of the establishment candidate be........?Den 14/02/2008 kl. 20.58 skrev clare mcconville - harris:Louise you said:If I thought Ron Paul had a snow balls chance in ...., but I don't want to make my vote useless at this point. Awww how awefull.... how many think he doesn't have a snowballs chance???? IF YOU ALL VOTED FOR HIM...... well then HE WOULD have a chance and a darned good chance at that................ What are your options? Curious I am Clare

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>how many think he doesn't have a snowballs chance???? <

 

come on...for an unknown, he's done pretty good...but if he had

a snowball's chance, he'd be our candidate, and he's not won a

single time...so you write him in, and you give the vote to the

other guy. period!

 

Theresa

 

Bob, Theresa & Benjamin WegnerNovelty FarmSt James MO

 

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I have to pick the lesser of all evils because, like I said, anyone who speaks the truth will not get it.Kenn Johnsen <kennj wrote: What ordinary rubbish......what will your vote on any one of the establishment candidate be........? Den 14/02/2008 kl. 20.58 skrev clare mcconville - harris: Louise you said: If I thought Ron Paul had a snow balls chance in ...., but I don't want to make my vote useless at this point. Awww how awefull.... how many think he doesn't have a snowballs chance???? IF YOU ALL VOTED FOR HIM...... well then HE WOULD have a chance and a darned good chance at that................ What are your options? Curious I am Clare

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Not allowed either in Australia.

 

 

Here you need a medical certificate to get a chemical restraint for a patient in a Nursing Home and you need the family or POA to agree to it too, probably with a family meeting prior to it happening. And they have activity programmes - quite extensive ones - here otherwise Aged Care Facilities don't pass the required government standards tests and then are not approved to continue and can be closed.

 

The best advocate for good Aged Care Facilities comes from the US - Dr Bill Thomas - Eden Alternative - I admire him greatly. I doubt he would ever approve sedation for any patient for restraint.

 

Jane

 

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Friday, February 15, 2008 1:41 AM

Re: Care homes sedating Alzheimer patients with 'chemical cosh' leads to early death

Oh. and tying them in chairs so they won't wander around. My Dad went to visit my aunt and found her tied in a chair.Jane MacRoss <highfield1 wrote:

 

 

True.

 

Not only Alzheimer patients - just "elderly" patients.

 

Jane

 

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NWRaven

1 @ ; 1 MedicalConspiracies@googlegrou

Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:07 AM

Care homes sedating Alzheimer patients with 'chemical cosh' leads to early death

 

Care homes sedating Alzheimer patients with 'chemical cosh' which could lead to early death

Medicine Alternatives | Psychiatry | Toxic substances

 

DailyMail

http://tinyurl.com/32hfbr

By JENNY HOPE February 4, 2008

Dangerous drugs are being prescribed to sedate thousands of Alzheimer's sufferers in care homes, campaigners claimed yesterday.

An official inquiry will be told today that the use of the so-called "chemical cosh" has serious side effects and can even lead to premature death.

The campaigners say that dementia patients with behavioural problems are being "killed" to make life easier for staff looking after them.

The antipsychotic drugs at the centre of the claims are not licensed for the treatment of Alzheimer's and instead are prescribed to control agitation, delusions, sleep disturbance and aggression.

Growing concern about the misuse of antipsychotic drugs has led to the inquiry by the all-party parliamentary group on dementia.

Typical drugs used for dementia symptoms are Largactil, Serenace, Stelazine and Risperdal, which were originally designed to treat schizophrenia patients.

An estimated 45 per cent of the Alzheimer's sufferers who live in care homes are given the drugs - around 100,000 in all.

 

 

 

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At 07:45 AM 15/02/2008, you wrote:

>I have to pick the lesser of all evils because, like I said, anyone

>who speaks the truth will not get it.

 

 

Personally, I believe it is going to be a really testing of the

courage of the American people time with the elections.

 

Voting for any of the lesser evils is going to mean: war and more wars...

 

Louise, are you aware of the real support out there for Ron Paul?...

it is not something you will glean from any of the main stream

media. It is huge, so huge that they have the establishment very worried.

 

The more people who dare make a stand. the chances of real change

might be a reality. Instead, people are still afraid of whittling

away their vote . What future is there with more wars.

 

Sorry this is just a simplistic short ramble on my part.

 

Think about it: .. when between 70 and 80 percent, if not more, of

the people want the war to stop, for the sons and daughters to come

home... how is it that the warmongerers win primaries according to MSM.

 

Hanneke

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Hi Jane, et al

 

Regrettably it goes on anyway, often under the guise of treatment

for something else, or it’s just done and no-one is consulted – my mother-in-law

was in a brand new nursing home and she deteriorated very rapidly there, to the

point where she didn’t recognise her only son and was dribbling down her

front in a near vegetative state.   We eventually moved her for other reasons,

then after only a week at the new nursing home she was suddenly able to sit up

properly again, stopped dribbling and could recognise us again!  It turns out

they had intentionally heavily sedated her (for various unpleasant reasons that

I don’t want to go into).

 

So, yes, it’s supposed to be not allowed, but in reality

the practice is rife.

 

Cheers  ~  Marina in South Australia

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Jane MacRoss

Friday, 15 February 2008 7:58 AM

 

Re: Care homes sedating Alzheimer patients

with 'chemical cosh' leads to early death

 

 

 

 

Not allowed either in Australia.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here you need a medical certificate to get a chemical restraint for

a patient in a Nursing Home and you need the family or POA to agree to it too,

probably with a family meeting prior to it happening. And they have

activity programmes - quite extensive ones - here otherwise Aged Care

Facilities don't pass the required government standards tests and then are not

approved to continue and can be closed.

 

 

 

 

 

The best advocate for good Aged Care Facilities comes from the US -

Dr Bill Thomas - Eden Alternative - I admire him greatly. I doubt he

would ever approve sedation for any patient for restraint.

 

 

 

 

 

Jane

 

 

 

 

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LOuise Johnson

 

 

 

 

 

 

Friday, February 15,

2008 1:41 AM

 

 

Re:

Care homes sedating Alzheimer patients with 'chemical

cosh' leads to early death

 

 

 

 

Oh. and tying them in chairs so they won't wander around. My

Dad went to visit my aunt and found her tied in a chair.

 

Jane MacRoss <highfield1

wrote:

 

 

 

True.

 

 

 

 

 

Not only Alzheimer patients - just " elderly " patients.

 

 

 

 

 

Jane

 

 

 

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07, 2008 9:07 AM

 

 

 

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death

 

 

 

 

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http://tinyurl.com/32hfbr

 

 

By JENNY HOPE

February 4, 2008

 

 

Dangerous drugs are being prescribed to sedate thousands of

Alzheimer's sufferers in care homes, campaigners claimed yesterday.

 

 

An official inquiry will be told today that the use of the

so-called " chemical cosh " has serious side effects and can even lead

to premature death.

 

 

The campaigners say that dementia patients with behavioural

problems are being " killed " to make life easier for staff looking

after them.

 

 

The antipsychotic drugs at the centre of the claims are not

licensed for the treatment of Alzheimer's and instead are prescribed to control

agitation, delusions, sleep disturbance and aggression.

 

 

Growing concern about the misuse of antipsychotic drugs has

led to the inquiry by the all-party parliamentary group on dementia.

 

 

Typical drugs used for dementia symptoms

are Largactil, Serenace, Stelazine and Risperdal, which were originally

designed to treat schizophrenia patients.

 

 

An estimated 45 per cent of the Alzheimer's sufferers who

live in care homes are given the drugs - around 100,000 in all.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I believe Ron Paul still has a chance. It is not over yet. The other issue is: how useful is your vote for any of the other candidates. I firmly believe that if everyone that wanted to be on the "winning" side voted for Ron Paul he would win. I do not care if I am on the winning side or not, there are many of us in this for the long haul, to save our future and that of our children and those that come after us. Do you have faith?

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Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:58 PM

Re: Care homes sedating Alzheimer patients with 'chemical cosh' leads to early death

 

 

 

Louise you said:

If I thought Ron Paul had a snow balls chance in ...., but I don't want to make my vote useless at this point.

 

Awww how awefull.... how many think he doesn't have a snowballs chance???? IF YOU ALL VOTED FOR HIM...... well then HE WOULD have a chance and a darned good chance at that................

 

What are your options?

 

Curious I am

 

Clare

 

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Well then, you pick the evil......Den 14/02/2008 kl. 22.15 skrev LOuise Johnson:I have to pick the lesser of all evils because, like I said, anyone who speaks the truth will not get it.Kenn Johnsen <kennj (AT) webspeed (DOT) dk> wrote:What ordinary rubbish......what will your vote on any one of the establishment candidate be........?Den 14/02/2008 kl. 20.58 skrev clare mcconville - harris:Louise you said:If I thought Ron Paul had a snow balls chance in ...., but I don't want to make my vote useless at this point. Awww how awefull.... how many think he doesn't have a snowballs chance???? IF YOU ALL VOTED FOR HIM...... well then HE WOULD have a chance and a darned good chance at that................ What are your options? Curious I am Clare Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search.

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At 12:17 PM 15/02/2008, you wrote:

>Well then, you pick the evil......

 

I have heard already suggestions for bumper stickers: 'Don't blame

me... I voted for Ron Paul'

 

Let's hope more people wake up to the evil around the corner before

those stickers are becoming a most wanted item.

 

H

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I saw on You Tube that Ron Paul wants a gold standard for our money. Now that the US doesn't have gold in fort Knox, then it wouldn't matter if we got rid of the fed reserve cause we would all be choked into the world bank cause they're the ones that have all the gold. That's the one thing that makes me not trust Ron Paul.

 

Sincerely Barb M.

 

 

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Hanneke

2/14/2008 9:14:36 PM

 

Re: Care homes sedating Alzheimer patients with 'chemical cosh' leads to early death

 

 

At 12:17 PM 15/02/2008, you wrote:>Well then, you pick the evil......I have heard already suggestions for bumper stickers: 'Don't blame me... I voted for Ron Paul'Let's hope more people wake up to the evil around the corner before those stickers are becoming a most wanted item.H

 

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I started the slogan

 

" Dare to Care "

 

when I was helping Pauline Hanson - some other group picked it up - but I

still like it - but it does take courage..............

 

Jane

 

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Friday, February 15, 2008 1:14 PM

Re: Care homes sedating Alzheimer patients

with 'chemical cosh' leads to early death

 

 

At 12:17 PM 15/02/2008, you wrote:

>Well then, you pick the evil......

 

I have heard already suggestions for bumper stickers: 'Don't blame

me... I voted for Ron Paul'

 

Let's hope more people wake up to the evil around the corner before

those stickers are becoming a most wanted item.

 

H

 

 

 

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Sorry to hear this Marina - I hope you can report it to someone somewhere to good effect? OK - I guess no one is listening.

 

I was talking about this type of thing to an elderly patient this morning who said she was never going into a nursing home - she has so much help from various organisations at home - but, oh dear, such a totally submissive attitude when it comes to "what her doctor orders" fluvax, pneumovax - she has a bag full of medication which she won't even show me "as she knows what I'll say" when I talked to her about my experience with the effects of fluvax, she said oh well this is probably why I have asthma and I was admitted with pneumonia after my pneumonia shot - and when my hair stood up on end and she saw that she had a response from me, she just laughed and said - "oh well - I've had a good life"

 

You say these events are rife - and this patient tell me what other nurses experience too - undocumented unlawful admin of sedating meds especially over night so staff can sleep in peace - I mean who wants to take people to the toilet all night?

 

Why can these people not fight for their rights, before they go into a nursing home?

 

What has happened to them that they are so submissive? I suppose its our conditioning and the lack of strength in old age - you need someone to fight for you. They are polite, don't want to offend Dr by declining the poison he advises - oh dear.

 

Marina - please google Dr Bill Thomas, Eden Alternative - not the Australian version - this is a farce - and enjoy - what he aims for. Why not the Australian version? Well they managed to get the rights to his theories and his courses, charge the earth for the seminars, and laugh about his ideas once he is out of the way - I mean these ideas are not really terribly CONVENIENT in application are they!

 

Best,

 

Jane

 

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Marina Wright

Friday, February 15, 2008 10:08 AM

RE: Care homes sedating Alzheimer patients with 'chemical cosh' leads to early death

 

 

Hi Jane, et al

 

Regrettably it goes on anyway, often under the guise of treatment for something else, or it’s just done and no-one is consulted – my mother-in-law was in a brand new nursing home and she deteriorated very rapidly there, to the point where she didn’t recognise her only son and was dribbling down her front in a near vegetative state. We eventually moved her for other reasons, then after only a week at the new nursing home she was suddenly able to sit up properly again, stopped dribbling and could recognise us again! It turns out they had intentionally heavily sedated her (for various unpleasant reasons that I don’t want to go into).

 

So, yes, it’s supposed to be not allowed, but in reality the practice is rife.

 

Cheers ~ Marina in South Australia