Looking for personal accounts of actual experience

May 1, 2010

Hi All

Last week I was told that the melanoma that was cut from my temple 18 months ago

has returned, and that a lump on my cheek and two in my neck are malignant

melanoma.

Surgery wasn't a success for me.

The interesting bit, is that I noticed a lump in my cheek in December last, and

went to my local GP, who thought it was likely a sebaceous cyst. I arranged an

appointment with my surgeon just to be sure, and put myself on high does (1g per

hour) vitamin C - as I do for most infections.

By the time I got to the surgeon in January, he could not detect any lump.

I thought " great - must have been a cyst " , and relaxed my use of vitamin C.

The growth on my cheek grew, but when I increased the Vitamin C it reduced in

size.

Two weeks ago I found a small lump in my neck, and went to my GP. GP gave me an

urgent referral to the Surgeon.

Last week I saw the surgeon, who ordered an immediate fine needle biopsy, and a

full body CT scan.

Later that day I got the news that the biopsy was an identical cell type to the

original removed melanoma - so we suspect the other two are similar.

Currently I am back on vitamin C - 5g morning and night, with 1g per hour in

between. I am scheduled for surgery on May 19th, and the surgeon wants to

remove my left salivary gland, and thinks it may result in me losing motor

control in the left side of my face. He also wants to take out all the lymph

nodes in my neck, and the SCM muscle.

I am investigating alternatives.

I want to live.

I am aware that the survival rates for those with metastasized melanoma is not

great.

I am concerned that the biopsy will have released malignant cells into my

bloodstream, and have doubts about the long term use of surgery at this time.

I would love to hear from anyone who has had actual experience of Oleander soup

in a similar situation, and is still here to talk about it ( also any reports of

people who did not make it).

I am a scientist by training, with a strong interest in biochemistry and

statistics.

I am open to possibility (familiar with infinity in many of its manifestations).

All help gratefully received.

Arohanui

Ted

May 1, 2010

Hi Ted,

Well I have not had cancer but my Stepfather was diagnosed 29 months ago with stage 4 pancreatic cancer, he was very ill and had lost over 100lbs in 5 months when he finally got the diagnosis. Anyway, he opted for the natural route because they told him there was no cure and all they could do is possible extend his life for a few months. So we started researching the Oleander recipe and at first I made it and for the first couple of months he had the homemade stuff, but after that we started buying it from Africa (sutherlandiaopc.com) and now it is sold in the USA at utopiasilver.com and that is where we purchase it along with their colloidal silver. He is doing amazingly great and has actually put on about 15 lbs and has great quality of life and he drives and plays golf everyweek. He is 80 years old! I know without a doubt if he hadn't started this protocol he would have been long gone! I won't say that he

is 100% cured , but I will say without a doubt he is managing his health and easily keeping everything in check and living a GREAT life easily! My Stepdad has been taking the Oleander almost 2.5years and takes the max dosage (6 caps/day) along with a gallon of collodial silver every other month (4oz/day) until the gallon is gone and then he takes a 2-3 week break and then starts the silver again. Don't give up, with your background you are a smart man and this is a blessing that you have come to this site! It was for us too and continues to be!

If you have any questions about my stepdad feel free to ask.

God Bless,

Tracy

--- On Fri, 4/30/10, Ted H <ted wrote:

Ted H <ted Looking for personal accounts of actual experienceoleander soup Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 11:22 PM

Hi AllLast week I was told that the melanoma that was cut from my temple 18 months ago has returned, and that a lump on my cheek and two in my neck are malignant melanoma.Surgery wasn't a success for me.The interesting bit, is that I noticed a lump in my cheek in December last, and went to my local GP, who thought it was likely a sebaceous cyst. I arranged an appointment with my surgeon just to be sure, and put myself on high does (1g per hour) vitamin C - as I do for most infections.By the time I got to the surgeon in January, he could not detect any lump.I thought "great - must have been a cyst", and relaxed my use of vitamin C. The growth on my cheek grew, but when I increased the Vitamin C it reduced in size.Two weeks ago I found a small lump in my neck, and went to my GP. GP gave me an urgent referral to the Surgeon.Last week I saw the surgeon, who ordered an immediate fine needle biopsy, and a

full body CT scan.Later that day I got the news that the biopsy was an identical cell type to the original removed melanoma - so we suspect the other two are similar.Currently I am back on vitamin C - 5g morning and night, with 1g per hour in between. I am scheduled for surgery on May 19th, and the surgeon wants to remove my left salivary gland, and thinks it may result in me losing motor control in the left side of my face. He also wants to take out all the lymph nodes in my neck, and the SCM muscle.I am investigating alternatives.I want to live.I am aware that the survival rates for those with metastasized melanoma is not great.I am concerned that the biopsy will have released malignant cells into my bloodstream, and have doubts about the long term use of surgery at this time.I would love to hear from anyone who has had actual experience of Oleander soup in a similar situation, and is still here to talk

about it ( also any reports of people who did not make it).I am a scientist by training, with a strong interest in biochemistry and statistics.I am open to possibility (familiar with infinity in many of its manifestations) .All help gratefully received.ArohanuiTed

May 1, 2010

Ted -

We probably have some members with melanoma and they might even have success stories to share, but I find that in general members don't often publish their success stories. I do know that oleander has been used very successfully against melanoma and the folks who make the patented medicine version (Anvirzel) report good success.

No, mainstream medicine does not have a very good success rate against melanoma that has metasticized to other locations, the same as they don't have a good success record against virtually all cancers once they have metasticized and the same as they don't have a very good track record against many forms of cancer period.

Mainstream medicine has been locked into the same failed paradigm of trying to cut out, poison out or burn out the mere symptoms of cancer (the tumors) instead of addressing the root causes of cancer and actually curing cancer since before the lost war on cancer was declared 40 years ago. Meanwhile, despite all the statistical juggling and annual reports of progress and cures being just around the corner, more people are getting cancer and dying of cancer every year.

Just look at what they want to do to you and what they have done already! Cut out your lymph nodes? It is the job of the lymph nodes to trap toxins, and toxins are the primary cause of cancer. Remove your salivary gland and neck muscle? Needle biopsies which penetrate the protective shell around the tumor and often result in the further and faster spread of cancer?

How utterly barbaric! No doubt, once you have vital parts of your body removed, they will then want to embark on a series of chemotherapy, which virtually never cures metasticized cancer and often uses chemo drugs that are themselves carcinogens. I am convinced that someday mankind will look back on today's system of managed illness and cancer treatments as the true dark ages of medicine.

Now, I am no medical professional and thus anything I have to say must be taken as opinion, but how about the idea of getting rid of the cancer without getting rid of essential body parts, avoiding poisons that may lead to other cancers, damage your major organs and immune system and making sure the cancer never returns?

If it were me, I would not hesitate to use an oleander based protocol against melanoma and I would make extra sure to include items that would be good for cleansing and purifying the blood, such as the Jon Barron Blood Tonic product mentioned in our suggested protocol:

/anticancer.htm

One other item I might consider to do along with the protocol is an experimental treatment that is available at MD Anderson, where they produce a vaccine using your own cancer cells. My cousin, who had stage 3 melanoma, did that over 4 years ago and remains cancer free to this day.

On the other hand I would be very hesitant to have any parts of my body cut out.

Suggested reading:

Modern Medicine versus Nature in Treating Cancer

Hiding the Truth about Losing the War on Cancer

An Amazing Discovery in Turkey

The Father of Oleander Soup

The History of Oleander Before 1960

Success Against Cancer and HIV in South Africa

Oleander Induces Autophagy - Exclusive Story

Case Reports and Studies on Oleander

Unraveling the Mysteries of the Cancer Fighting Oleander Plant

Two Oleander HIV Success Stories from Africa

Oleandrin-mediated oxidative stress in human melanoma cells.

Just because modern medicine has no clue or much hope against various forms of cancer does not mean the the answers and hope are not out there.

Welcome to the group and feel free to ask any other questions you might have. We are here for you!

All the best,

oleander soup , "Ted H" <ted wrote:>> Hi All> > Last week I was told that the melanoma that was cut from my temple 18 months ago has returned, and that a lump on my cheek and two in my neck are malignant melanoma.> > Surgery wasn't a success for me.> > The interesting bit, is that I noticed a lump in my cheek in December last, and went to my local GP, who thought it was likely a sebaceous cyst. I arranged an appointment with my surgeon just to be sure, and put myself on high does (1g per hour) vitamin C - as I do for most infections.> By the time I got to the surgeon in January, he could not detect any lump.> > I thought "great - must have been a cyst", and relaxed my use of vitamin C. The growth on my cheek grew, but when I increased the Vitamin C it reduced in size.> > Two weeks ago I found a small lump in my neck, and went to my GP. GP gave me an urgent referral to the Surgeon.> Last week I saw the surgeon, who ordered an immediate fine needle biopsy, and a full body CT scan.> Later that day I got the news that the biopsy was an identical cell type to the original removed melanoma - so we suspect the other two are similar.> > Currently I am back on vitamin C - 5g morning and night, with 1g per hour in between. I am scheduled for surgery on May 19th, and the surgeon wants to remove my left salivary gland, and thinks it may result in me losing motor control in the left side of my face. He also wants to take out all the lymph nodes in my neck, and the SCM muscle.> > I am investigating alternatives.> I want to live.> I am aware that the survival rates for those with metastasized melanoma is not great.> > I am concerned that the biopsy will have released malignant cells into my bloodstream, and have doubts about the long term use of surgery at this time.> > I would love to hear from anyone who has had actual experience of Oleander soup in a similar situation, and is still here to talk about it ( also any reports of people who did not make it).> > I am a scientist by training, with a strong interest in biochemistry and statistics.> > I am open to possibility (familiar with infinity in many of its manifestations).> > All help gratefully received.> > Arohanui> > Ted>

May 1, 2010

Hello there Ted,My friends grandmother had melanoma when she was in her 40-50's, shes now 84. I am not sure of the details, but she had cured it with high doses of Iodine supplementation, from inside and applying directly to the lesions, with a surgery you cannot be sure if its all gone, but Iodine apparently takes it all off.

I am not sure about the doses and the type of Iodine. I'm sure if you google or check curezone you will find a lot of info on iodine + melanoma.All the best,NikOn Sat, May 1, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Ted H <ted wrote:

Hi All

Last week I was told that the melanoma that was cut from my temple 18 months ago has returned, and that a lump on my cheek and two in my neck are malignant melanoma.

Surgery wasn't a success for me.

The interesting bit, is that I noticed a lump in my cheek in December last, and went to my local GP, who thought it was likely a sebaceous cyst. I arranged an appointment with my surgeon just to be sure, and put myself on high does (1g per hour) vitamin C - as I do for most infections.

By the time I got to the surgeon in January, he could not detect any lump.

I thought " great - must have been a cyst " , and relaxed my use of vitamin C. The growth on my cheek grew, but when I increased the Vitamin C it reduced in size.

Two weeks ago I found a small lump in my neck, and went to my GP. GP gave me an urgent referral to the Surgeon.

Last week I saw the surgeon, who ordered an immediate fine needle biopsy, and a full body CT scan.

Later that day I got the news that the biopsy was an identical cell type to the original removed melanoma - so we suspect the other two are similar.

Currently I am back on vitamin C - 5g morning and night, with 1g per hour in between. I am scheduled for surgery on May 19th, and the surgeon wants to remove my left salivary gland, and thinks it may result in me losing motor control in the left side of my face. He also wants to take out all the lymph nodes in my neck, and the SCM muscle.

I am investigating alternatives.

I want to live.

I am aware that the survival rates for those with metastasized melanoma is not great.

I am concerned that the biopsy will have released malignant cells into my bloodstream, and have doubts about the long term use of surgery at this time.

I would love to hear from anyone who has had actual experience of Oleander soup in a similar situation, and is still here to talk about it ( also any reports of people who did not make it).

I am a scientist by training, with a strong interest in biochemistry and statistics.

I am open to possibility (familiar with infinity in many of its manifestations).

All help gratefully received.

Arohanui

Ted

May 1, 2010

Hm...Also, when taking iodine be sure to take - At least 2000mg of vitamin c- At least 400mg magnesium- At least 200mg seleniumThe above are a must when taking Iodine.Take good care,

NikOn Sat, May 1, 2010 at 12:53 PM, NS <overloaded wrote:

Hello there Ted,My friends grandmother had melanoma when she was in her 40-50's, shes now 84. I am not sure of the details, but she had cured it with high doses of Iodine supplementation, from inside and applying directly to the lesions, with a surgery you cannot be sure if its all gone, but Iodine apparently takes it all off.

I am not sure about the doses and the type of Iodine. I'm sure if you google or check curezone you will find a lot of info on iodine + melanoma.All the best,Nik

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Ted H <ted wrote:

Hi All

Last week I was told that the melanoma that was cut from my temple 18 months ago has returned, and that a lump on my cheek and two in my neck are malignant melanoma.

Surgery wasn't a success for me.

The interesting bit, is that I noticed a lump in my cheek in December last, and went to my local GP, who thought it was likely a sebaceous cyst. I arranged an appointment with my surgeon just to be sure, and put myself on high does (1g per hour) vitamin C - as I do for most infections.

By the time I got to the surgeon in January, he could not detect any lump.

I thought " great - must have been a cyst " , and relaxed my use of vitamin C. The growth on my cheek grew, but when I increased the Vitamin C it reduced in size.

Two weeks ago I found a small lump in my neck, and went to my GP. GP gave me an urgent referral to the Surgeon.

Last week I saw the surgeon, who ordered an immediate fine needle biopsy, and a full body CT scan.

Later that day I got the news that the biopsy was an identical cell type to the original removed melanoma - so we suspect the other two are similar.

Currently I am back on vitamin C - 5g morning and night, with 1g per hour in between. I am scheduled for surgery on May 19th, and the surgeon wants to remove my left salivary gland, and thinks it may result in me losing motor control in the left side of my face. He also wants to take out all the lymph nodes in my neck, and the SCM muscle.

I am investigating alternatives.

I want to live.

I am aware that the survival rates for those with metastasized melanoma is not great.

I am concerned that the biopsy will have released malignant cells into my bloodstream, and have doubts about the long term use of surgery at this time.

I would love to hear from anyone who has had actual experience of Oleander soup in a similar situation, and is still here to talk about it ( also any reports of people who did not make it).

I am a scientist by training, with a strong interest in biochemistry and statistics.

I am open to possibility (familiar with infinity in many of its manifestations).

All help gratefully received.

Arohanui

Ted

May 1, 2010

Nik -

Thanks for your input and report. Iodine can definitely be effective against skin melanomas and likely is a good item to include for internal melanoma as well (and it is a recommended part of the protocol we suggest). For skin melanoma, a cream made of concentrated oleander extract, iodine, colloidal silver and a few drops of DMSO should be especially effective.

However, what Ted is referring to is melanoma that has spread and is no longer only on the surface of the skin. For that situation, it will likely take more than just iodine.

All he best,

oleander soup , NS <overloaded wrote:>> Hello there Ted,> > My friends grandmother had melanoma when she was in her 40-50's, shes now> 84. I am not sure of the details, but she had cured it with high doses of> Iodine supplementation, from inside and applying directly to the lesions,> with a surgery you cannot be sure if its all gone, but Iodine apparently> takes it all off.> > I am not sure about the doses and the type of Iodine. I'm sure if you google> or check curezone you will find a lot of info on iodine + melanoma.> > All the best,> Nik

May 2, 2010

TedH,

I think you're getting some good advice here from Tony and others.

You might want to explore the use of two more remedies that have shown

tremendous success. The first one is called " BCGG Paste " , sometimes

referred to as " melanoma mud " and " black salve " . When used topically it

will destroy a melanoma or sarcoma in the skin without fail, but it can also

be taken internally. Let me know if you need a source for this, I happen

to know of one (no it's not me). Also, if you live an a state where medical

marijuana is legal, you can make and take cannabis oil at the rate of 60

grams over a 90 day period. Go to phoenixtears.ca for more info on that.

There are many studies showing cannabinoids as effective cancer killers. I

wish you the best of luck in your journey and I hope you opt for Tony's

protocol of oleander along with the iodine... it's a good one.

Bob

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" Ted H " <ted

Friday, April 30, 2010 9:22 PM

Looking for personal accounts of actual experience

> Hi All

>

> Last week I was told that the melanoma that was cut from my temple 18

> months ago has returned, and that a lump on my cheek and two in my neck

> are malignant melanoma.

>

> Surgery wasn't a success for me.

>

> The interesting bit, is that I noticed a lump in my cheek in December

> last, and went to my local GP, who thought it was likely a sebaceous cyst.

> I arranged an appointment with my surgeon just to be sure, and put myself

> on high does (1g per hour) vitamin C - as I do for most infections.

> By the time I got to the surgeon in January, he could not detect any lump.

>

> I thought " great - must have been a cyst " , and relaxed my use of vitamin

> C. The growth on my cheek grew, but when I increased the Vitamin C it

> reduced in size.

>

> Two weeks ago I found a small lump in my neck, and went to my GP. GP gave

> me an urgent referral to the Surgeon.

> Last week I saw the surgeon, who ordered an immediate fine needle biopsy,

> and a full body CT scan.

> Later that day I got the news that the biopsy was an identical cell type

> to the original removed melanoma - so we suspect the other two are

> similar.

>

> Currently I am back on vitamin C - 5g morning and night, with 1g per hour

> in between. I am scheduled for surgery on May 19th, and the surgeon wants

> to remove my left salivary gland, and thinks it may result in me losing

> motor control in the left side of my face. He also wants to take out all

> the lymph nodes in my neck, and the SCM muscle.

>

> I am investigating alternatives.

> I want to live.

> I am aware that the survival rates for those with metastasized melanoma is

> not great.

>

> I am concerned that the biopsy will have released malignant cells into my

> bloodstream, and have doubts about the long term use of surgery at this

> time.

>

> I would love to hear from anyone who has had actual experience of Oleander

> soup in a similar situation, and is still here to talk about it ( also any

> reports of people who did not make it).

>

> I am a scientist by training, with a strong interest in biochemistry and

> statistics.

>

> I am open to possibility (familiar with infinity in many of its

> manifestations).

>

> All help gratefully received.

>

> Arohanui

>

> Ted

>

> ---

>

May 2, 2010

Hi Thanks for the advice.

There is so much divergent advice on the net.

Some say vitamin C, which is acidic, others say alkaline vegetables.

You have mentioned several of the protocols, but finding out how

effective they are is trickier.

Looking for hard data - true statements about exactly who has been

treated and died,a nd who has been treated and lived, average lifespans

after treatment, aggregated by stage of disease prior to treatment - just

that sort of basic stuff.

When I look at the protocol set you have given me, I see a lot of

different things to do, but not a lot of explanation as to why.

I appreciate your help - I really do, and I am finding the sheer volume

of divergent advice daunting.

Given the substantial increase in pain from the lumps in my neck over the

last few days, I think excision of these tumors asap with as little

collateral damage as possible will be my request to the

surgeon. That should give me enough time evaluate and test

some of the options given me.

Right now I am close to tears. The child within me just thinks

" it's not fair " , which it isn't.

Mind if I ask you what has got you interested and involved in

this?

Thanks again.

Ted

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May 2, 2010

Thanks Bob

I am looking seriously at it.

I live in New Zealand - about 8,000 miles from the USA - South Pacific -

about the same latitude as Seattle, but the other hemisphere - just going

into winter here - woke to snow on the hills this morning.

Cannabis illegal here, and I don't want to seriously investigate that

option - not that fond of the side effects.

Interested in why you made the recommendations you did?

What experience has lead you to say that?

Arohanui

Ted

Ted Howard

Managing Director - Solution-Multipliers NZ Ltd.

http://www.fishnet.co.nz/

http://www.solnx.org/

Skype - nz-ted

Ph 027 442 4281 AH/Fax 03 319 6797 International

+64 27 442 4281

Physical/Postal: 1 Maui St, Kaikoura, NEW ZEALAND

Location:

42°25.123'S

173°41.626'E

2010 Solution-Multipliers NZ Ltd.

May 2, 2010

Hi Ted;

All I can do is pull for you and urge you to keep your chin up and to believe

you will conquer this and try everything which will do you no harm and might be

of help. If it helps, I am writng as a survivor of a carcinoma.

I am curious, please.

You are taking a lot of vitamin C. Is this in pill form?

Be kind to and gentle with yourself.

Very good luck.

Thank you.

Kathy

oleander soup , " Ted H " <ted wrote:

>

> Hi All

>

> Last week I was told that the melanoma that was cut from my temple 18 months

ago has returned, and that a lump on my cheek and two in my neck are malignant

melanoma.

>

> Surgery wasn't a success for me.

>

> The interesting bit, is that I noticed a lump in my cheek in December last,

and went to my local GP, who thought it was likely a sebaceous cyst. I arranged

an appointment with my surgeon just to be sure, and put myself on high does (1g

per hour) vitamin C - as I do for most infections.

> By the time I got to the surgeon in January, he could not detect any lump.

>

> I thought " great - must have been a cyst " , and relaxed my use of vitamin C.

The growth on my cheek grew, but when I increased the Vitamin C it reduced in

size.

>

> Two weeks ago I found a small lump in my neck, and went to my GP. GP gave me

an urgent referral to the Surgeon.

> Last week I saw the surgeon, who ordered an immediate fine needle biopsy, and

a full body CT scan.

> Later that day I got the news that the biopsy was an identical cell type to

the original removed melanoma - so we suspect the other two are similar.

>

> Currently I am back on vitamin C - 5g morning and night, with 1g per hour in

between. I am scheduled for surgery on May 19th, and the surgeon wants to

remove my left salivary gland, and thinks it may result in me losing motor

control in the left side of my face. He also wants to take out all the lymph

nodes in my neck, and the SCM muscle.

>

> I am investigating alternatives.

> I want to live.

> I am aware that the survival rates for those with metastasized melanoma is not

great.

>

> I am concerned that the biopsy will have released malignant cells into my

bloodstream, and have doubts about the long term use of surgery at this time.

>

> I would love to hear from anyone who has had actual experience of Oleander

soup in a similar situation, and is still here to talk about it ( also any

reports of people who did not make it).

>

> I am a scientist by training, with a strong interest in biochemistry and

statistics.

>

> I am open to possibility (familiar with infinity in many of its

manifestations).

>

> All help gratefully received.

>

> Arohanui

>

> Ted

>

May 2, 2010

Hi Kathy

When at home I mostly take ascorbic acid dissolved in water.

When away from home mostly in tablet form - sodium ascorbate

mostly.

Determining what will assist and what will do no harm is part of my

problem.

My sister is a vet, and sent me a paper showing that vitamin C can

interfere with cancer drugs - because it makes the cells more resistant

to the killing effect of the drugs.

As I have said many times - so much contradictory information, that is

why I am seeking first hand accounts, of people themselves, or people who

actually know others very closely.

Thanks for you interest.

Ted

Ted Howard

Managing Director - Solution-Multipliers NZ Ltd.

http://www.fishnet.co.nz/

http://www.solnx.org/

Skype - nz-ted

Ph 027 442 4281 AH/Fax 03 319 6797 International

+64 27 442 4281

Physical/Postal: 1 Maui St, Kaikoura, NEW ZEALAND

Location:

42°25.123'S

173°41.626'E

2010 Solution-Multipliers NZ Ltd.

May 2, 2010

Hi Ted,Pam here from Waihi,up north,still sunny and warm.I have had cancer now for 6 yrs.Initially diagnosed with breast cancer ,i had a large lump under breast over rib .Was told given the size of my tumour ,5.5cm I should have a masectomy straight away,chemo,radiation and drug therapy.I said no to all.The surgeon stamped her foot at me and said i'd probably be dead in 5 yrs.....I had 2 surgeries,a second one to excise the area more thouroughly which went horribly wrong and got infected and 600ml fluid taken out when cut open again.I had an open wound for 6mnths which husband had to clean out everyday for me...I had already started researching and found Oleander soup,which was readily available to make myself,and almost free just for the price of the vodka !Given that most of us here in NZ fly finacially close to the wind anything I could get for free resonated with me.We are artists and its feast or famine in this home! So I boiled up the recipe and got into it....starting at 3 tablespoons daily.......I had wicked dioreah for bout 2 weeks,fast beating heart and a feeling of delirium for a few days then symptoms settled down and it became a symptomless regime which I religeously kept up for 2 years.........All my follow up visits to my surgeons etc were with excamations of how well i was doing......I got slack and blase and stopped the oleander,basically because i could no longer stand the taste.I would retch at just the thought of it..........I now have mets to bones but so far in these 6 yrs I have no symptoms.....I take my supplements and I found a way of taking oleander .I buy clear capsules from Healthpost NZ and fill with concentrated oleander mixture....no taste ! There are ways to live an extended and happy life with cancer.No 1 way is the right way everyone is different and responds differently.Ive researched endlessly and gone off on all sorts of tacks trying to get to the bottom of why my body let this disease happen.I have hormone driven C,I havnt had a gall bladder for over 10 yrs,I found out to my amazement I'm borderline diabetic...all these things require nutting out........one of the conclusions I have come to isThe greatest thing you can do for your body is to go totally RAW FOOD......in saying that,its bloody hard and I'm not there yet.I believe in oleander,its not a stand alone therapy,but it sure kickstarts the imune system and I make oleander body cream.My dad had melanoma,I am fair and freckly and I've had skin thingys drop offwith just using it on skin after showers.. and this is the end of my rant......happy days sending you some sunshine from up north.....Pam

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Ted Howard

oleander soup

Sunday, May 02, 2010 6:26 PM

Re: Re: Looking for personal accounts of actual experience

Hi TonyThanks for the advice.There is so much divergent advice on the net.Some say vitamin C, which is acidic, others say alkaline vegetables.You have mentioned several of the protocols, but finding out how effective they are is trickier.Looking for hard data - true statements about exactly who has been treated and died,a nd who has been treated and lived, average lifespans after treatment, aggregated by stage of disease prior to treatment - just that sort of basic stuff.When I look at the protocol set you have given me, I see a lot of different things to do, but not a lot of explanation as to why.I appreciate your help - I really do, and I am finding the sheer volume of divergent advice daunting.Given the substantial increase in pain from the lumps in my neck over the last few days, I think excision of these tumors asap with as little collateral damage as possible will be my request to the surgeon. That should give me enough time evaluate and test some of the options given me.Right now I am close to tears. The child within me just thinks "it's not fair", which it isn't.Mind if I ask you what has got you interested and involved in this?Thanks again.Ted

Ted HowardManaging Director - Solution-Multipliers NZ Ltd. http://www.fishnet.co.nz/ http://www.solnx.org/ Skype - nz-ted Ph 027 442 4281 AH/Fax 03 319 6797 International +64 27 442 4281 Physical/Postal: 1 Maui St, Kaikoura, NEW ZEALAND Location: 42°25.123'S 173°41.626'E 2010 Solution-Multipliers NZ Ltd.

May 2, 2010

Hi Ted,My experience with Vit C is that it works for a while, and then the cancer gets around it. I would strongly suggest that you get into the whole anticancer protocol that Tony suggests. His premise, as I understand it, is that you throw everything at it at once, while strengthening your immune system. Cancer is getting stronger, so no single therapy will do the job anymore. Also, stop the CT scans. They give you way too much radiation. MRI is more expensive but safer.Fight on,Ted --- On Sun, 5/2/10, geekling <geekling wrote:geekling <geekling Re: Looking for personal accounts of actual experienceTo:

oleander soup Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 4:31 AM

Hi Ted;

All I can do is pull for you and urge you to keep your chin up and to believe you will conquer this and try everything which will do you no harm and might be of help. If it helps, I am writng as a survivor of a carcinoma.

I am curious, please.

You are taking a lot of vitamin C. Is this in pill form?

Be kind to and gentle with yourself.

Very good luck.

Thank you.

Kathy

oleander soup, "Ted H" <ted wrote:

>

> Hi All

>

> Last week I was told that the melanoma that was cut from my temple 18 months ago has returned, and that a lump on my cheek and two in my neck are malignant melanoma.

>

> Surgery wasn't a success for me.

>

> The interesting bit, is that I noticed a lump in my cheek in December last, and went to my local GP, who thought it was likely a sebaceous cyst. I arranged an appointment with my surgeon just to be sure, and put myself on high does (1g per hour) vitamin C - as I do for most infections.

> By the time I got to the surgeon in January, he could not detect any lump.

>

> I thought "great - must have been a cyst", and relaxed my use of vitamin C. The growth on my cheek grew, but when I increased the Vitamin C it reduced in size.

>

> Two weeks ago I found a small lump in my neck, and went to my GP. GP gave me an urgent referral to the Surgeon.

> Last week I saw the surgeon, who ordered an immediate fine needle biopsy, and a full body CT scan.

> Later that day I got the news that the biopsy was an identical cell type to the original removed melanoma - so we suspect the other two are similar.

>

> Currently I am back on vitamin C - 5g morning and night, with 1g per hour in between. I am scheduled for surgery on May 19th, and the surgeon wants to remove my left salivary gland, and thinks it may result in me losing motor control in the left side of my face. He also wants to take out all the lymph nodes in my neck, and the SCM muscle.

>

> I am investigating alternatives.

> I want to live.

> I am aware that the survival rates for those with metastasized melanoma is not great.

>

> I am concerned that the biopsy will have released malignant cells into my bloodstream, and have doubts about the long term use of surgery at this time.

>

> I would love to hear from anyone who has had actual experience of Oleander soup in a similar situation, and is still here to talk about it ( also any reports of people who did not make it).

>

> I am a scientist by training, with a strong interest in biochemistry and statistics.

>

> I am open to possibility (familiar with infinity in many of its manifestations) .

>

> All help gratefully received.

>

> Arohanui

>

> Ted

>

May 2, 2010

Ted, if you don't mind, I am going to jump in here. I want you to know that we are all here for you, to help you physically and emotionally. Tony will reply to you in detail, but I just want to say that the majority of people that have followed the protocol in full force and effect have achieved success. And I do hope that these people come forward. Regardless, I would urge you to follow it, actually, in full force and effect.As for the story as to how Tony got involved in natural healing, all I am going to say is that it is most inspiring. My Best,Ted Howard <tedoleander soup Sent: Sun, May 2, 2010 1:26:47 AMRe: Re: Looking for personal accounts of actual experience

Hi Thanks for the advice.

There is so much divergent advice on the net.

Some say vitamin C, which is acidic, others say alkaline vegetables.

You have mentioned several of the protocols, but finding out how

effective they are is trickier.

Looking for hard data - true statements about exactly who has been

treated and died,a nd who has been treated and lived, average lifespans

after treatment, aggregated by stage of disease prior to treatment - just

that sort of basic stuff.

When I look at the protocol set you have given me, I see a lot of

different things to do, but not a lot of explanation as to why.

I appreciate your help - I really do, and I am finding the sheer volume

of divergent advice daunting.

Given the substantial increase in pain from the lumps in my neck over the

last few days, I think excision of these tumors asap with as little

collateral damage as possible will be my request to the

surgeon. That should give me enough time evaluate and test

some of the options given me.

Right now I am close to tears. The child within me just thinks

"it's not fair", which it isn't.

Mind if I ask you what has got you interested and involved in

this?

Thanks again.

Ted

Ted Howard

Managing Director - Solution-Multiplier s NZ Ltd.

http://www.fishnet. co.nz/

http://www.solnx. org/

Skype - nz-ted

Ph 027 442 4281 AH/Fax 03 319 6797 International

+64 27 442 4281

Physical/Postal: 1 Maui St, Kaikoura, NEW ZEALAND

Location:

42Â°25.123'S

173Â°41.626'E

May 3, 2010

Hi Ted.

Here are some videos about hemp seed oil for cancer, have a look and make up your mind.

Wish you all the best in you jerney for wellness and good health.

Hugs Mary

http://www.youtube.com/chrychek

-

Ted Howard

oleander soup

Sunday, May 02, 2010 4:51 PM

Re: Looking for personal accounts of actual experience

Thanks BobI am looking seriously at it.I live in New Zealand - about 8,000 miles from the USA - South Pacific - about the same latitude as Seattle, but the other hemisphere - just going into winter here - woke to snow on the hills this morning.Cannabis illegal here, and I don't want to seriously investigate that option - not that fond of the side effects.Interested in why you made the recommendations you did?What experience has lead you to say that?ArohanuiTed

Ted HowardManaging Director - Solution-Multipliers NZ Ltd. http://www.fishnet.co.nz/ http://www.solnx.org/ Skype - nz-ted Ph 027 442 4281 AH/Fax 03 319 6797 International +64 27 442 4281 Physical/Postal: 1 Maui St, Kaikoura, NEW ZEALAND Location: 42°25.123'S 173°41.626'E 2010 Solution-Multipliers NZ Ltd.

May 3, 2010

Of course I am interested, Ted. What point to my suffering and survival if not

to help you along?

I am happy Pam brought it up: Raw Food.

you are taking a ton of vitamin C but, in truth you are not getting the stuff as

Mom Nature intends. I know you said you are scientifically trained but if you

know Asimov, you know the last question has its answer as what we call God. We

are finite creatures in an infinite landscape. We can't know everything nor why

everything works unless we become infinite. Some things which are here for our

benefit we need to just accept. Like whole unadulterated food and herbs and

spices.

Doubtless you don't actually know how to eat to heal yourself. all our lives

we've been told 3 square and a bit of this or a dab of that. I submit to you

that a weakened body needs over a pound of whole dark greens and more vegetables

and lots of fruit each day and a little bit of nuts and seeds to round things

out. It is not impossible. and you will have time for your other pursuits.

There was a dr. named ann wigmore. She cured herself of cancer (the story

changes as to which type it was) but she did it. She refused conventional

medicines and opted for whole foods and the use of herbs and grasses about which

she had learned from her grandmother. Although they call her the Grand Dame of

Raw food, she is only one is a long historical line of folks who healed

themselves through the ingestion of living and growing plants.

ascorbic acid is very nice but has it occured to you that the food from whence

it is derived has a host of other ingredients which work in concert with the

vitamin?

I am not saying to stop what you are doing or to stop your search for a magic

bullet but i am saying to you that you might consider a new theory. to cure

cancer, the alleopath, basically, tries to kill the patient in the hope that the

cancer dies prior to the patient expiring, yes?. With raw food, the theory is to

strengthen a body enough with decent fuel to have the body heal itself and rout

the cancer, which are just cells gone wildly mad, aren't they?

I don't know how you are fixed for cash but there has got to be a wellness

center in your area which uses the raw food method. they are pricey. If that is

beyond your means, may I refer you to Nomi Shannon, who wrote a book called " The

Raw Gourmet " or to Rene Oswald who wrote a book called " Transitioning to Raw

Food " ? I'm writing a book too but it won't be done for a while yet. The idea is

to show you tasty ways to get more food down your gullet than you thought

possible and to have you ingest that food in a way that makes it most

nutritionally effective. Inside food is every bit of medicine you need. Isn't

that what Hippocrates said? And Voltaire?

There are books by members of the Boutenko family. I met the hubby and he has

more energy than 20 fresh horses. A Dr. Brenda Cobb cured herself of cancer

(breast). I know you've a computer. Use a search engine with the keywords 'raw

food' & 'cancer'.

dr. ann wrote books too but, in truth, she had not much in the way of taste

buds.

You can't afford to delay and eating certainly can't hurt you. it can be

accomplished along with any other methodology you opt to use.

It is more than eating an apple a day. You don't actually give anything up. You

just prepare food differently. It will be helpful to focus rather than to worry

and rail at the Wind " why me? " Even well people are getting into it because the

food is tasty and gives you energy. All you need is getting used to the how to

and the new textures.

nomi overcame chronic fatigue, rene something I forgot, I am fighting hcv and

mold allergy (which i believe caused the cancer), the boutenkos was diabetes

and so on and so forth

The first hcv protocol told me about for hcv does not work for me. i am

trying a second one recommended by the group and already have a third lined up.

The third is growing in the garden. all of them are 'natural' because i hear the

therapy for hcv makes cancer treats look like a walk in the park.

Nobody knows poo poo about mold but I am slowly hooking up with folks and

learning more things which help slightly. 5 slight helps is as good as one big

help, yes?

Cheers and best wishes and blessings and lots of very good luck to you from your

fan,

Kathy K

P. S. I was mostly raw through all of the radiation and chemotherapy.

This was mostly because I prefer raw fruit and begetables to the crapola candies

and cookies the docs put out for their patients. when they told me to maintain

my weight, i took them seriously. not only did I maintain my weight but it took

another year before I could get over the fear of dropping an ounce. This inspite

of radiation causing all my fillings to drop out and a hellavalot of pain. :-)

oleander soup , Ted Howard <ted wrote:

>

> Hi Kathy

>

> When at home I mostly take ascorbic acid dissolved in water.

> When away from home mostly in tablet form - sodium ascorbate mostly.

>

> Determining what will assist and what will do no harm is part of my problem.

> My sister is a vet, and sent me a paper showing

> that vitamin C can interfere with cancer drugs -

> because it makes the cells more resistant to the killing effect of the drugs.

>

> As I have said many times - so much contradictory

> information, that is why I am seeking first hand

> accounts, of people themselves, or people who

> actually know others very closely.

>

> Thanks for you interest.

>

> Ted

>

> Ted Howard

> Managing Director - Solution-Multipliers NZ Ltd.

> http://www.fishnet.co.nz/

> http://www.solnx.org/

> Skype - nz-ted

> Ph 027 442 4281 AH/Fax 03 319 6797 International +64 27 442 4281

> Physical/Postal: 1 Maui St, Kaikoura, NEW ZEALAND

> Location: 42°25.123'S 173°41.626'E

> 2010 Solution-Multipliers NZ Ltd.

>

May 3, 2010

Hi Kathy

I eat a lot of raw foods.

I have orange, banana, and apple for breakfast, with 2 Brasil nuts and

half a dozen almonds.

I eat a lot of raw veges - cauli, broccoli, carrots, cabbage, beets,

peas, beans, watermellon, kiwi fruit, pears, blackberries, ....

Quite a few different sorts of nuts and grains. Quite a bit of

fresh juice.

I am also a keen hunter and fisherman, and enjoy some raw fish, and

lightly cooked meat.

So yes - I am giving raw food a go, and have always enjoyed a lot of raw

food.

I have almost eliminated junk food, and I am a recovering

chocoholic.

Cheers

Ted

Ted Howard

Managing Director - Solution-Multipliers NZ Ltd.

http://www.fishnet.co.nz/

http://www.solnx.org/

Skype - nz-ted

Ph 027 442 4281 AH/Fax 03 319 6797 International

+64 27 442 4281

Physical/Postal: 1 Maui St, Kaikoura, NEW ZEALAND

Location:

42°25.123'S

173°41.626'E

2010 Solution-Multipliers NZ Ltd.

May 3, 2010

To Kathy KSome interesting articles in "The China Study" book about "molds". Lots of interesting and very well researched information. Hope it may help.Irene.oleander soup From: geeklingDate: Mon, 3 May 2010 09:07:09 +0000 Re: Looking for personal accounts of actual experience

Of course I am interested, Ted. What point to my suffering and survival if not to help you along?

I am happy Pam brought it up: Raw Food.

you are taking a ton of vitamin C but, in truth you are not getting the stuff as Mom Nature intends. I know you said you are scientifically trained but if you know Asimov, you know the last question has its answer as what we call God. We are finite creatures in an infinite landscape. We can't know everything nor why everything works unless we become infinite. Some things which are here for our benefit we need to just accept. Like whole unadulterated food and herbs and spices.

Doubtless you don't actually know how to eat to heal yourself. all our lives we've been told 3 square and a bit of this or a dab of that. I submit to you that a weakened body needs over a pound of whole dark greens and more vegetables and lots of fruit each day and a little bit of nuts and seeds to round things out. It is not impossible. and you will have time for your other pursuits.

There was a dr. named ann wigmore. She cured herself of cancer (the story changes as to which type it was) but she did it. She refused conventional medicines and opted for whole foods and the use of herbs and grasses about which she had learned from her grandmother. Although they call her the Grand Dame of Raw food, she is only one is a long historical line of folks who healed themselves through the ingestion of living and growing plants.

ascorbic acid is very nice but has it occured to you that the food from whence it is derived has a host of other ingredients which work in concert with the vitamin?

I am not saying to stop what you are doing or to stop your search for a magic bullet but i am saying to you that you might consider a new theory. to cure cancer, the alleopath, basically, tries to kill the patient in the hope that the cancer dies prior to the patient expiring, yes?. With raw food, the theory is to strengthen a body enough with decent fuel to have the body heal itself and rout the cancer, which are just cells gone wildly mad, aren't they?

I don't know how you are fixed for cash but there has got to be a wellness center in your area which uses the raw food method. they are pricey. If that is beyond your means, may I refer you to Nomi Shannon, who wrote a book called "The Raw Gourmet" or to Rene Oswald who wrote a book called "Transitioning to Raw Food"? I'm writing a book too but it won't be done for a while yet. The idea is to show you tasty ways to get more food down your gullet than you thought possible and to have you ingest that food in a way that makes it most nutritionally effective. Inside food is every bit of medicine you need. Isn't that what Hippocrates said? And Voltaire?

There are books by members of the Boutenko family. I met the hubby and he has more energy than 20 fresh horses. A Dr. Brenda Cobb cured herself of cancer (breast). I know you've a computer. Use a search engine with the keywords 'raw food' & 'cancer'.

dr. ann wrote books too but, in truth, she had not much in the way of taste buds.

You can't afford to delay and eating certainly can't hurt you. it can be accomplished along with any other methodology you opt to use.

It is more than eating an apple a day. You don't actually give anything up. You just prepare food differently. It will be helpful to focus rather than to worry and rail at the Wind "why me?" Even well people are getting into it because the food is tasty and gives you energy. All you need is getting used to the how to and the new textures.

nomi overcame chronic fatigue, rene something I forgot, I am fighting hcv and mold allergy (which i believe caused the cancer), the boutenkos was diabetes and so on and so forth

The first hcv protocol told me about for hcv does not work for me. i am trying a second one recommended by the group and already have a third lined up. The third is growing in the garden. all of them are 'natural' because i hear the therapy for hcv makes cancer treats look like a walk in the park.

Nobody knows poo poo about mold but I am slowly hooking up with folks and learning more things which help slightly. 5 slight helps is as good as one big help, yes?

Cheers and best wishes and blessings and lots of very good luck to you from your fan,

Kathy K

P. S. I was mostly raw through all of the radiation and chemotherapy.

This was mostly because I prefer raw fruit and begetables to the crapola candies and cookies the docs put out for their patients. when they told me to maintain my weight, i took them seriously. not only did I maintain my weight but it took another year before I could get over the fear of dropping an ounce. This inspite of radiation causing all my fillings to drop out and a hellavalot of pain. :-)

oleander soup , Ted Howard <ted wrote:

>

> Hi Kathy

>

> When at home I mostly take ascorbic acid dissolved in water.

> When away from home mostly in tablet form - sodium ascorbate mostly.

>

> Determining what will assist and what will do no harm is part of my problem.

> My sister is a vet, and sent me a paper showing

> that vitamin C can interfere with cancer drugs -

> because it makes the cells more resistant to the killing effect of the drugs.

>

> As I have said many times - so much contradictory

> information, that is why I am seeking first hand

> accounts, of people themselves, or people who

> actually know others very closely.

>

> Thanks for you interest.

>

> Ted

>

> Ted Howard

> Managing Director - Solution-Multipliers NZ Ltd.

> http://www.fishnet.co.nz/

> http://www.solnx.org/

> Skype - nz-ted

> Ph 027 442 4281 AH/Fax 03 319 6797 International +64 27 442 4281

> Physical/Postal: 1 Maui St, Kaikoura, NEW ZEALAND

> Location: 42°25.123'S 173°41.626'E

> 2010 Solution-Multipliers NZ Ltd.

>

Find it at CarPoint.com.au New, Used, Demo, Dealer or Private?

May 3, 2010

Hi Ted

With oleander, iodine, vitamin C, it looks like you have ample choices to " put

out the fire " .

I would suggest that you try to find the reason that these cysts occur in the

first place. It could be a lot of little things like your deodorant, or even a

psychological thing. Try to take this as an opportunity to become more aware of

your body/mind. With some diligence you could at least become an expert on

cysts. It is quite rewarding to more knowledgeable about an ailment then anyone

in the mainstream field, and a lot more safer and less expensive.

Michael

oleander soup , " Ted H " <ted wrote:

>

> Hi All

>

> Last week I was told that the melanoma that was cut from my temple 18 months

ago has returned, and that a lump on my cheek and two in my neck are malignant

melanoma.

>

> Surgery wasn't a success for me.

>

> The interesting bit, is that I noticed a lump in my cheek in December last,

and went to my local GP, who thought it was likely a sebaceous cyst. I arranged

an appointment with my surgeon just to be sure, and put myself on high does (1g

per hour) vitamin C - as I do for most infections.

> By the time I got to the surgeon in January, he could not detect any lump.

>

> I thought " great - must have been a cyst " , and relaxed my use of vitamin C.

The growth on my cheek grew, but when I increased the Vitamin C it reduced in

size.

>

> Two weeks ago I found a small lump in my neck, and went to my GP. GP gave me

an urgent referral to the Surgeon.

> Last week I saw the surgeon, who ordered an immediate fine needle biopsy, and

a full body CT scan.

> Later that day I got the news that the biopsy was an identical cell type to

the original removed melanoma - so we suspect the other two are similar.

>

> Currently I am back on vitamin C - 5g morning and night, with 1g per hour in

between. I am scheduled for surgery on May 19th, and the surgeon wants to

remove my left salivary gland, and thinks it may result in me losing motor

control in the left side of my face. He also wants to take out all the lymph

nodes in my neck, and the SCM muscle.

>

> I am investigating alternatives.

> I want to live.

> I am aware that the survival rates for those with metastasized melanoma is not

great.

>

> I am concerned that the biopsy will have released malignant cells into my

bloodstream, and have doubts about the long term use of surgery at this time.

>

> I would love to hear from anyone who has had actual experience of Oleander

soup in a similar situation, and is still here to talk about it ( also any

reports of people who did not make it).

>

> I am a scientist by training, with a strong interest in biochemistry and

statistics.

>

> I am open to possibility (familiar with infinity in many of its

manifestations).

>

> All help gratefully received.

>

> Arohanui

>

> Ted

>

May 3, 2010

Ted,The way I understand it, most Vit C today is made from corn, and most comes from China. There is some made in England, but it is very expensive. Also, there was a discussion here not too long ago about liposomal Vit C, and how to make your own. It is reputed to be more effective.Ted--- On Mon, 5/3/10, geekling <geekling wrote:geekling <geekling Re: Looking for personal accounts of actual experienceoleander soup Date: Monday, May 3, 2010, 5:07 AM