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trick: superior sore throat spray powder works nicely most of the time.

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Tecnu is great. Also: never wash w/ soap. Soap is made from fat, which spreads the poison ivy. You need either brown soap or detergent or alcohol. Something that will denature the oil in the PI.

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At 6:52 PM +0000 6/19/03, wrote:

Does anyone have any cool topicals for poison ivy? Are there any

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Tecnu. It's otc at most pharmacies and works very well -- best when used within 24 hours after exposure. Originally I was turned on to it by a National Parks Ranger who said he and his colleagues bought it in bulk, used it preventively after every patrol, whether or not they were aware of being exposed. You put it on the skin prior to a shower. It works by neutralizing the toxic oils of the ivy.

 

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Honestly, I don’t know what it is besides Brown Soap- you can get at most drugstores. I just did a quick search on google and came up with nothing. It doesn’t suds up and has an abrasive quality to it. I think that it is not a true soap: hence it dissolves the PI oils on the skin. I’m sorry. - Actually, I can find out this weekend. I’ll try to get back to you on it

 

 

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Cara, what is brown soap??

 

 

 

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I have some memory that it was also called tar soap?? I remember it from childhood for poison ivy.

 

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Honestly, I don’t know what it is besides Brown Soap- you can get at most drugstores. I just did a quick search on google and came up with nothing. It doesn’t suds up and has an abrasive quality to it. I think that it is not a true soap: hence it dissolves the PI oils on the skin. I’m sorry. - Actually, I can find out this weekend. I’ll try to get back to you on itCara O. Frank, R.AcherbbabeChina Herb Company

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Thanx everyone for the poison ivy info...

 

 

 

 

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> Tecnu is great. Also: never wash w/ soap. Soap is made from fat,

which

 

 

> spreads the poison ivy. You need either brown soap or detergent or

alcohol.

 

 

> Something that will denature the oil in the PI.

 

 

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> > At 6:52 PM +0000 6/19/03, wrote:

 

 

> >> Does anyone have any cool topicals for poison ivy? Are there any

 

 

> >> discussions of this topic anywhere?

 

 

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> > Tecnu. It's otc at most pharmacies and works very well -- best

when used

 

 

> > within 24 hours after exposure. Originally I was turned on to it

by a National

 

 

> > Parks Ranger who said he and his colleagues bought it in bulk,

used it

 

 

> > preventively after every patrol, whether or not they were aware of

being

 

 

> > exposed. You put it on the skin prior to a shower. It works by

neutralizing

 

 

> > the toxic oils of the ivy.

 

 

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Try a bath in tea. Get a big box of cheap Lipton black tea, put all of the

teabags in a warm tub and let them steep for a bit. Then soak in it. The

tannins in the tea help break down the oils of the poison ivy and also help

calm the skin irritation and sooth the itching. This also works well to

take the sting out of a bad sunburn. A wet teabag applied to spot areas can

be helpful for small local irritations.

 

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As a fellow poison ivy sufferee, Have her/him wash with homemade lye

soap...scrub till the area is almost raw. Rinse very well. Hydrogen Peroxide

can be poured over the area, but it will hurt. Then take the soap, wet the bar,

then rub the wet bar all over the break-out area. This leaves a coating of the

soap. Don't exactly know what it is in the lye soap (aside from the fact that

this soap removes the oils/drainage from the poison), but it sure helps. You

might also make up a spray of distilled water with a few (start with 5) drops of

peppermint EO to help with the itch problem. Also, make sure he is covered

with clothing all over or any spot he touches (bare skin to bare skin) will be

infected....especially the personal area. Poor little thing. Also, if she has

any Benadryl(sp?) for allergies, that will also help.

 

HTH

Betty Ott

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Carol Pearce

Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:45 AM

Poison Ivy

 

 

 

Hi. does anyone know of a blend for Poison Ivy ?

 

My nephew just came home from camping and he is covered from head to toe,

looks like he rolled in it..LOL

 

Anyway, my sister is in a panic, can anyone provide me with any solutions?

 

Thanks in advance..

 

Carol

 

 

 

 

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Hi Carol, there are many many herbal remedies, Jewelweed being the most widely

suggested. If it were me and I had no herbs on hand, I'd go to the drug store

and get Tecnu or I heard an even better one is Zanfel. HTH...Diana of Dewberry

Hill

 

Hi. does anyone know of a blend for Poison Ivy ?

 

My nephew just came home from camping and he is covered from head to toe,

looks like he rolled in it..LOL

 

Anyway, my sister is in a panic, can anyone provide me with any solutions?

 

Thanks in advance..

 

Carol

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Oh Carol, tell your sis in law to watch for breathing problems. It isn't hard

to get into the lungs as well as on the outside of the body and watch out for

genitalia.

Jenn

 

Hi. does anyone know of a blend for Poison Ivy ?

 

Anyway, my sister is in a panic, can anyone provide me with any solutions?

 

Thanks in advance..

 

Carol

 

 

 

 

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Thank you... to Diana, Jenn and Betty... I will forward the info on to my

sister...

 

Carol

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Diana of Dewberry Hill

Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:58 PM

Re: Poison Ivy

 

 

Hi Carol, there are many many herbal remedies, Jewelweed being the most widely

suggested. If it were me and I had no herbs on hand, I'd go to the drug store

and get Tecnu or I heard an even better one is Zanfel. HTH...Diana of Dewberry

Hill

 

Hi. does anyone know of a blend for Poison Ivy ?

 

My nephew just came home from camping and he is covered from head to toe,

looks like he rolled in it..LOL

 

Anyway, my sister is in a panic, can anyone provide me with any solutions?

 

Thanks in advance..

 

Carol

 

 

 

 

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Quite truthfully if he has it that bad, I would take him to the doctor. My son

had it really bad years ago and I took him to the doctor. He said it was a good

thing because Poison Ivy over large areas of the body can be dangerous. They

gave him some oral medication to take besides the external lotions.

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Carol Pearce

Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:45 AM

Poison Ivy

 

 

 

Hi. does anyone know of a blend for Poison Ivy ?

 

My nephew just came home from camping and he is covered from head to toe,

looks like he rolled in it..LOL

 

Anyway, my sister is in a panic, can anyone provide me with any solutions?

 

Thanks in advance..

 

Carol

 

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Hi, thanks....she will be taking him to the doctors today... We had a family

emergency yesterday and Everything else in our lives including the kids got put

on hold.

She checked up on him a few times by phone and he was fine...itchy but

fine...BTW, he was with his Dad.

 

Carol

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Evelyn Millican

Sunday, August 03, 2003 11:06 PM

Re: Poison Ivy

 

 

Quite truthfully if he has it that bad, I would take him to the doctor. My

son had it really bad years ago and I took him to the doctor. He said it was a

good thing because Poison Ivy over large areas of the body can be dangerous.

They gave him some oral medication to take besides the external lotions.

MAKE A HAPPY MEMORY EVERY DAY:

Evelyn

Alternasense Skin Design Products

www.alternasense.com

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Carol Pearce

Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:45 AM

Poison Ivy

 

 

 

Hi. does anyone know of a blend for Poison Ivy ?

 

My nephew just came home from camping and he is covered from head to toe,

looks like he rolled in it..LOL

 

Anyway, my sister is in a panic, can anyone provide me with any solutions?

 

Thanks in advance..

 

Carol

 

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OK . . . gotta clear up a few things here . . . .

 

" Betty Ott " <booper19 writes:

> Have her/him wash with homemade

> lye soap... Don't exactly

> know what it is in the lye soap (aside from the fact that this soap

> removes the oils/drainage from the poison), but it sure helps.

 

What do you mean by " lye soap? " *All* soap is made w/ lye . . . whether

it's home mede soap, so-called " glycerine " soap, liquid soap, or any of

the " eveil corporate " soaps. There just ain't no way to make soap w/out

using lye!

 

What I have heard/read, though is that old fashoined Fels Naptha soap can

be helpful for poison ivy . . . It's just not as easy to find as it used

to be . . .

 

> make sure he is covered with clothing all over or any spot he

> touches (bare skin to bare skin) will be infected

 

This is only true if he touches other areas of his body *before* washing!

It's the oils from the poison ivy that cause the rash and that can be

spread to other areas. Once they're washed off, it doesn't matter how

much the rash oozes, it can't be spread any further. This is a very old,

but nonetheless very mistaken, belief . . .

 

As far as infection goes, though, if the rash is severe, it *can* become

infected. Basically it's an open sore, subject to infection like any

other, so keepin the area clean is important.

 

There's also another product on the market called " Ivy Dry. " I've never

used it because I don't get poison ivy, but a friend who does swears by

it.

 

Good luck to your friend!

 

HTH, rox

 

 

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I will see if I can find this Ivy Dry and the soap that you recommended, this is

the second time this year that one of my sister's kids have gotten poison Ivy.

So, I think the soap would make a terrific first aid gift next time we go

camping togethor.

 

Thanks for the Info

Carol

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gentlelake

Monday, August 04, 2003 1:57 PM

Re: Poison Ivy

 

 

OK . . . gotta clear up a few things here . . . .

 

" Betty Ott " <booper19 writes:

> Have her/him wash with homemade

> lye soap... Don't exactly

> know what it is in the lye soap (aside from the fact that this soap

> removes the oils/drainage from the poison), but it sure helps.

 

What do you mean by " lye soap? " *All* soap is made w/ lye . . . whether

it's home mede soap, so-called " glycerine " soap, liquid soap, or any of

the " eveil corporate " soaps. There just ain't no way to make soap w/out

using lye!

 

What I have heard/read, though is that old fashoined Fels Naptha soap can

be helpful for poison ivy . . . It's just not as easy to find as it used

to be . . .

 

> make sure he is covered with clothing all over or any spot he

> touches (bare skin to bare skin) will be infected

 

This is only true if he touches other areas of his body *before* washing!

It's the oils from the poison ivy that cause the rash and that can be

spread to other areas. Once they're washed off, it doesn't matter how

much the rash oozes, it can't be spread any further. This is a very old,

but nonetheless very mistaken, belief . . .

 

As far as infection goes, though, if the rash is severe, it *can* become

infected. Basically it's an open sore, subject to infection like any

other, so keepin the area clean is important.

 

There's also another product on the market called " Ivy Dry. " I've never

used it because I don't get poison ivy, but a friend who does swears by

it.

 

Good luck to your friend!

 

HTH, rox

 

 

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By lye soap, I find the homemade soap to be much better at healing MY poison

ivy. I do not agree that all soaps are lye soap. Many of the commercial bars

that are touted as soap are detergents. You are correct with the comment

" There just ain't no way to make soap w/out

using lye! " BUT, if a person is not informed, then he/she assumes that all

'soap' purchased at the store is 'soap'.

 

>> make sure he is covered with clothing all over or any spot he

> touches (bare skin to bare skin) will be infected

 

This is only true if he touches other areas of his body *before* washing!

It's the oils from the poison ivy that cause the rash and that can be

spread to other areas. Once they're washed off, it doesn't matter how

much the rash oozes, it can't be spread any further. This is a very old,

but nonetheless very mistaken, belief . . .

 

Unfortunately this is NOT true. My husband and I sleep in the buff. The times

I have poison and he touches it, then places his arm across me in other areas, I

end up with poison ivy there (at the new location).

 

There are also drops available at health food stores that will aid in getting

rid of Poison Ivy. Not sure of the name, but it is several doses after you have

been in contact with the poison.

 

Betty Ott

Soaps by Betty

 

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gentlelake

Monday, August 04, 2003 1:57 PM

Re: Poison Ivy

 

 

OK . . . gotta clear up a few things here . . . .

 

" Betty Ott " <booper19 writes:

> Have her/him wash with homemade

> lye soap... Don't exactly

> know what it is in the lye soap (aside from the fact that this soap

> removes the oils/drainage from the poison), but it sure helps.

 

What do you mean by " lye soap? " *All* soap is made w/ lye . . . whether

it's home mede soap, so-called " glycerine " soap, liquid soap, or any of

the " eveil corporate " soaps. There just ain't no way to make soap w/out

using lye!

 

What I have heard/read, though is that old fashoined Fels Naptha soap can

be helpful for poison ivy . . . It's just not as easy to find as it used

to be . . .

 

> make sure he is covered with clothing all over or any spot he

> touches (bare skin to bare skin) will be infected

 

This is only true if he touches other areas of his body *before* washing!

It's the oils from the poison ivy that cause the rash and that can be

spread to other areas. Once they're washed off, it doesn't matter how

much the rash oozes, it can't be spread any further. This is a very old,

but nonetheless very mistaken, belief . . .

 

As far as infection goes, though, if the rash is severe, it *can* become

infected. Basically it's an open sore, subject to infection like any

other, so keepin the area clean is important.

 

There's also another product on the market called " Ivy Dry. " I've never

used it because I don't get poison ivy, but a friend who does swears by

it.

 

Good luck to your friend!

 

HTH, rox

 

 

 

 

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Oh, how I do love synchronicities . . .

 

I was just reading another list and someone mentioned that liquid bandage

(New Shin is one brand) is great for poison ivy!

 

Might be worth a try . . .

 

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Cool, Thanks...Will forward it on..

Carol

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Monday, August 04, 2003 2:51 PM

Re: Poison Ivy

 

 

Oh, how I do love synchronicities . . .

 

I was just reading another list and someone mentioned that liquid bandage

(New Shin is one brand) is great for poison ivy!

 

Might be worth a try . . .

 

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Thanks,

 

I will check out the health stores tomorrow ( Canadian Holiday today), You have

me curious..

 

Carol

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Betty Ott

Monday, August 04, 2003 2:36 PM

Re: Re: Poison Ivy

 

 

My turn.....

 

By lye soap, I find the homemade soap to be much better at healing MY poison

ivy. I do not agree that all soaps are lye soap. Many of the commercial bars

that are touted as soap are detergents. You are correct with the comment

" There just ain't no way to make soap w/out

using lye! " BUT, if a person is not informed, then he/she assumes that all

'soap' purchased at the store is 'soap'.

 

>> make sure he is covered with clothing all over or any spot he

> touches (bare skin to bare skin) will be infected

 

This is only true if he touches other areas of his body *before* washing!

It's the oils from the poison ivy that cause the rash and that can be

spread to other areas. Once they're washed off, it doesn't matter how

much the rash oozes, it can't be spread any further. This is a very old,

but nonetheless very mistaken, belief . . .

 

Unfortunately this is NOT true. My husband and I sleep in the buff. The

times I have poison and he touches it, then places his arm across me in other

areas, I end up with poison ivy there (at the new location).

 

There are also drops available at health food stores that will aid in getting

rid of Poison Ivy. Not sure of the name, but it is several doses after you have

been in contact with the poison.

 

Betty Ott

Soaps by Betty

 

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gentlelake

Monday, August 04, 2003 1:57 PM

Re: Poison Ivy

 

 

OK . . . gotta clear up a few things here . . . .

 

" Betty Ott " <booper19 writes:

> Have her/him wash with homemade

> lye soap... Don't exactly

> know what it is in the lye soap (aside from the fact that this soap

> removes the oils/drainage from the poison), but it sure helps.

 

What do you mean by " lye soap? " *All* soap is made w/ lye . . . whether

it's home mede soap, so-called " glycerine " soap, liquid soap, or any of

the " eveil corporate " soaps. There just ain't no way to make soap w/out

using lye!

 

What I have heard/read, though is that old fashoined Fels Naptha soap can

be helpful for poison ivy . . . It's just not as easy to find as it used

to be . . .

 

> make sure he is covered with clothing all over or any spot he

> touches (bare skin to bare skin) will be infected

 

This is only true if he touches other areas of his body *before* washing!

It's the oils from the poison ivy that cause the rash and that can be

spread to other areas. Once they're washed off, it doesn't matter how

much the rash oozes, it can't be spread any further. This is a very old,

but nonetheless very mistaken, belief . . .

 

As far as infection goes, though, if the rash is severe, it *can* become

infected. Basically it's an open sore, subject to infection like any

other, so keepin the area clean is important.

 

There's also another product on the market called " Ivy Dry. " I've never

used it because I don't get poison ivy, but a friend who does swears by

it.

 

Good luck to your friend!

 

HTH, rox

 

 

 

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You can look for a couple of things at the health food store that may help

with your poison ivy. The first one is Burts Bees Poison Ivy Soap, and the

second one is any Jewelweed drops or spray.

 

j

 

 

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> I will check out the health stores tomorrow ( Canadian Holiday today), You

have me curious..

>

> Carol

 

 

 

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> (New Shin is one brand) is great for poison ivy!

 

Ooops! That's s'pozed to be New Skin!! ;^P

 

rox

 

 

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" Betty Ott " <booper19 writes:

> I do not agree that all soaps are lye soap. Many of

> the commercial bars that are touted as soap are detergents.

 

True, but even detergents are made w/ lye! And, unfortunately, as I

understand it FDA regs allow even some detergents to be labeled as

" soap. " <grrrrrr>

 

And some of the eveil corporate soaps are true soap, too . . . .

 

But wheter soap, detergent, or so-called glycerine M & P, they're still

all made w/ lye . . .

 

> are correct with the comment " There just ain't no way to make soap

> w/out

> using lye! " BUT, if a person is not informed, then he/she assumes

> that all 'soap' purchased at the store is 'soap'.

 

So the point of debate here is the word " soap " rather than lye, right?

No arguement there . . . I'm in complete agreeemnet that most of what

people buy believing to be " soap " is really detergent. I just think it's

misleading to call home made - or *any* - soap " lye soap. " For one thing

it's redundant (i.e. since all soap is make w/ lye, it doewn't need to be

repeated), and it also perpetuated the myth that some soap (or detergent

or M & P) is made w/out lye. ;^)

 

> Unfortunately this is NOT true. My husband and I sleep in the buff.

> The times I have poison and he touches it, then places his arm

> across me in other areas, I end up with poison ivy there (at the new

> location).

 

Well, I'm not about to argue w/ your experience, though it contradicts

things I've read repeatedly (and I'm also assuming that you'd already

washed the areas thoroughly. ;^P). We all know that there are lots of

*new* spouses' tales being created daily. Mebbe this is just another

example (the stuff I've read, not your experience). Like I said, I don't

get poision ivy, so I don't know first hand . . . my ex got it badly,

though, so I used to read a lot about it.

 

rox

 

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Sandi...

Usually where you have poison ivy growing, you also have it's antidote,

Jewelweed aka Touch me not. Google for a picture.

Jewelweed has a hollow stem and is a cousin of the Impatience houseplant.

It's the juice in that hollow stem that is the antidote. Stick some

juicy stems in a jar with AC vinegar, always make sure the vinegar tops

the stems.

Put that solution on the affected area. Or just split a stem open and

use the juice that way..

There might be some soapmakers on this list who make jewelweed soap,

worth a try..

C-M

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Hi Sandi,

 

Jewel weed - (Impatiens pallida) or (Impatiens capensis) - is probably

one of the BEST remedies for poison ivy!

 

It can be used fresh, as a tea and as a tincture.

 

I know that Herbs, Etc out of Santa Fe, NM has a blend called " Ivy Itch

Re-leaf " that contains it

http://www.herbsetc.com/shopping/i/ivy_itch_releaf.htm

 

*Smile*

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avos3857 [avos3857]

 

we have loads of poison ivy in our 'wetlands " in the back of the house,

can

anyone tell me if there are any oils that you can put on yourself after

you

have been in contact with poison ivy. Daughter is always coming in with

'poison

ivy', last year she had it so bad had to be on Prednisone.

 

thanking you all in advance for any help

 

sandi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Pick up Technu...!!!! It's OTC...it's GREAT!!!!!!!

 

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Thursday, May 13, 2004 12:46 PM

poison ivy

 

 

we have loads of poison ivy in our 'wetlands " in the back of the house, can

anyone tell me if there are any oils that you can put on yourself after you

have been in contact with poison ivy. Daughter is always coming in with

'poison

ivy', last year she had it so bad had to be on Prednisone.

 

thanking you all in advance for any help

 

sandi

 

 

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