Guest guest Report post Posted June 19, 2003 trick: superior sore throat spray powder works nicely most of the time. Cara > > Does anyone have any cool topicals for poison ivy? Are there any > discussions of this topic anywhere? > > > > > - > > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare > practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing > in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, > including board approved online continuing education. > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 19, 2003 Tecnu is great. Also: never wash w/ soap. Soap is made from fat, which spreads the poison ivy. You need either brown soap or detergent or alcohol. Something that will denature the oil in the PI. -- Cara O. Frank, R.Ac herbbabe China Herb Company At 6:52 PM +0000 6/19/03, wrote: Does anyone have any cool topicals for poison ivy? Are there any discussions of this topic anywhere? -- Tecnu. It's otc at most pharmacies and works very well -- best when used within 24 hours after exposure. Originally I was turned on to it by a National Parks Ranger who said he and his colleagues bought it in bulk, used it preventively after every patrol, whether or not they were aware of being exposed. You put it on the skin prior to a shower. It works by neutralizing the toxic oils of the ivy. Rory -- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 19, 2003 Cara, what is brown soap??AcuClinic: Acupuncture and HerbsEti Domb, L.Ac.1281 University Ave, Suite ESan Diego, CA 92103619.543.9280 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 20, 2003 Honestly, I don’t know what it is besides Brown Soap- you can get at most drugstores. I just did a quick search on google and came up with nothing. It doesn’t suds up and has an abrasive quality to it. I think that it is not a true soap: hence it dissolves the PI oils on the skin. I’m sorry. - Actually, I can find out this weekend. I’ll try to get back to you on it Cara O. Frank, R.Ac herbbabe China Herb Company Eti Domb <etidomb Thu, 19 Jun 2003 21:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Re: poison ivy Cara, what is brown soap?? AcuClinic: Acupuncture and Herbs Eti Domb, L.Ac. 1281 University Ave, Suite E San Diego, CA 92103 619.543.9280 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 20, 2003 I have some memory that it was also called tar soap?? I remember it from childhood for poison ivy. Catherine - Cara Frank Friday, June 20, 2003 3:43 AM Re: poison ivy Honestly, I don’t know what it is besides Brown Soap- you can get at most drugstores. I just did a quick search on google and came up with nothing. It doesn’t suds up and has an abrasive quality to it. I think that it is not a true soap: hence it dissolves the PI oils on the skin. I’m sorry. - Actually, I can find out this weekend. I’ll try to get back to you on itCara O. Frank, R.AcherbbabeChina Herb Company Eti Domb <etidomb Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 21:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: poison ivy Cara, what is brown soap??AcuClinic: Acupuncture and HerbsEti Domb, L.Ac.1281 University Ave, Suite ESan Diego, CA 92103619.543.9280 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 20, 2003 Thanx everyone for the poison ivy info... , Cara Frank <herbbabe@e...> wrote: > Tecnu is great. Also: never wash w/ soap. Soap is made from fat, which > spreads the poison ivy. You need either brown soap or detergent or alcohol. > Something that will denature the oil in the PI. > -- > Cara O. Frank, R.Ac > herbbabe@e... > China Herb Company > > > > > > At 6:52 PM +0000 6/19/03, wrote: > >> Does anyone have any cool topicals for poison ivy? Are there any > >> discussions of this topic anywhere? > > -- > > > > Tecnu. It's otc at most pharmacies and works very well -- best when used > > within 24 hours after exposure. Originally I was turned on to it by a National > > Parks Ranger who said he and his colleagues bought it in bulk, used it > > preventively after every patrol, whether or not they were aware of being > > exposed. You put it on the skin prior to a shower. It works by neutralizing > > the toxic oils of the ivy. > > > > Rory > > -- > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 23, 2003 Try a bath in tea. Get a big box of cheap Lipton black tea, put all of the teabags in a warm tub and let them steep for a bit. Then soak in it. The tannins in the tea help break down the oils of the poison ivy and also help calm the skin irritation and sooth the itching. This also works well to take the sting out of a bad sunburn. A wet teabag applied to spot areas can be helpful for small local irritations. -judy saxe student, CSTCM, Denver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 3, 2003 As a fellow poison ivy sufferee, Have her/him wash with homemade lye soap...scrub till the area is almost raw. Rinse very well. Hydrogen Peroxide can be poured over the area, but it will hurt. Then take the soap, wet the bar, then rub the wet bar all over the break-out area. This leaves a coating of the soap. Don't exactly know what it is in the lye soap (aside from the fact that this soap removes the oils/drainage from the poison), but it sure helps. You might also make up a spray of distilled water with a few (start with 5) drops of peppermint EO to help with the itch problem. Also, make sure he is covered with clothing all over or any spot he touches (bare skin to bare skin) will be infected....especially the personal area. Poor little thing. Also, if she has any Benadryl(sp?) for allergies, that will also help. HTH Betty Ott - Carol Pearce Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:45 AM Poison Ivy Hi. does anyone know of a blend for Poison Ivy ? My nephew just came home from camping and he is covered from head to toe, looks like he rolled in it..LOL Anyway, my sister is in a panic, can anyone provide me with any solutions? Thanks in advance.. Carol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 4, 2003 Hi Carol, there are many many herbal remedies, Jewelweed being the most widely suggested. If it were me and I had no herbs on hand, I'd go to the drug store and get Tecnu or I heard an even better one is Zanfel. HTH...Diana of Dewberry Hill Hi. does anyone know of a blend for Poison Ivy ? My nephew just came home from camping and he is covered from head to toe, looks like he rolled in it..LOL Anyway, my sister is in a panic, can anyone provide me with any solutions? Thanks in advance.. Carol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 4, 2003 Oh Carol, tell your sis in law to watch for breathing problems. It isn't hard to get into the lungs as well as on the outside of the body and watch out for genitalia. Jenn Hi. does anyone know of a blend for Poison Ivy ? Anyway, my sister is in a panic, can anyone provide me with any solutions? Thanks in advance.. Carol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 4, 2003 Thank you... to Diana, Jenn and Betty... I will forward the info on to my sister... Carol - Diana of Dewberry Hill Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:58 PM Re: Poison Ivy Hi Carol, there are many many herbal remedies, Jewelweed being the most widely suggested. If it were me and I had no herbs on hand, I'd go to the drug store and get Tecnu or I heard an even better one is Zanfel. HTH...Diana of Dewberry Hill Hi. does anyone know of a blend for Poison Ivy ? My nephew just came home from camping and he is covered from head to toe, looks like he rolled in it..LOL Anyway, my sister is in a panic, can anyone provide me with any solutions? Thanks in advance.. Carol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 4, 2003 Quite truthfully if he has it that bad, I would take him to the doctor. My son had it really bad years ago and I took him to the doctor. He said it was a good thing because Poison Ivy over large areas of the body can be dangerous. They gave him some oral medication to take besides the external lotions. MAKE A HAPPY MEMORY EVERY DAY: Evelyn Alternasense Skin Design Products www.alternasense.com - Carol Pearce Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:45 AM Poison Ivy Hi. does anyone know of a blend for Poison Ivy ? My nephew just came home from camping and he is covered from head to toe, looks like he rolled in it..LOL Anyway, my sister is in a panic, can anyone provide me with any solutions? Thanks in advance.. Carol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 4, 2003 Hi, thanks....she will be taking him to the doctors today... We had a family emergency yesterday and Everything else in our lives including the kids got put on hold. She checked up on him a few times by phone and he was fine...itchy but fine...BTW, he was with his Dad. Carol - Evelyn Millican Sunday, August 03, 2003 11:06 PM Re: Poison Ivy Quite truthfully if he has it that bad, I would take him to the doctor. My son had it really bad years ago and I took him to the doctor. He said it was a good thing because Poison Ivy over large areas of the body can be dangerous. They gave him some oral medication to take besides the external lotions. MAKE A HAPPY MEMORY EVERY DAY: Evelyn Alternasense Skin Design Products www.alternasense.com - Carol Pearce Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:45 AM Poison Ivy Hi. does anyone know of a blend for Poison Ivy ? My nephew just came home from camping and he is covered from head to toe, looks like he rolled in it..LOL Anyway, my sister is in a panic, can anyone provide me with any solutions? Thanks in advance.. Carol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 4, 2003 OK . . . gotta clear up a few things here . . . . " Betty Ott " <booper19 writes: > Have her/him wash with homemade > lye soap... Don't exactly > know what it is in the lye soap (aside from the fact that this soap > removes the oils/drainage from the poison), but it sure helps. What do you mean by " lye soap? " *All* soap is made w/ lye . . . whether it's home mede soap, so-called " glycerine " soap, liquid soap, or any of the " eveil corporate " soaps. There just ain't no way to make soap w/out using lye! What I have heard/read, though is that old fashoined Fels Naptha soap can be helpful for poison ivy . . . It's just not as easy to find as it used to be . . . > make sure he is covered with clothing all over or any spot he > touches (bare skin to bare skin) will be infected This is only true if he touches other areas of his body *before* washing! It's the oils from the poison ivy that cause the rash and that can be spread to other areas. Once they're washed off, it doesn't matter how much the rash oozes, it can't be spread any further. This is a very old, but nonetheless very mistaken, belief . . . As far as infection goes, though, if the rash is severe, it *can* become infected. Basically it's an open sore, subject to infection like any other, so keepin the area clean is important. There's also another product on the market called " Ivy Dry. " I've never used it because I don't get poison ivy, but a friend who does swears by it. Good luck to your friend! HTH, rox ______________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 4, 2003 I will see if I can find this Ivy Dry and the soap that you recommended, this is the second time this year that one of my sister's kids have gotten poison Ivy. So, I think the soap would make a terrific first aid gift next time we go camping togethor. Thanks for the Info Carol - gentlelake Monday, August 04, 2003 1:57 PM Re: Poison Ivy OK . . . gotta clear up a few things here . . . . " Betty Ott " <booper19 writes: > Have her/him wash with homemade > lye soap... Don't exactly > know what it is in the lye soap (aside from the fact that this soap > removes the oils/drainage from the poison), but it sure helps. What do you mean by " lye soap? " *All* soap is made w/ lye . . . whether it's home mede soap, so-called " glycerine " soap, liquid soap, or any of the " eveil corporate " soaps. There just ain't no way to make soap w/out using lye! What I have heard/read, though is that old fashoined Fels Naptha soap can be helpful for poison ivy . . . It's just not as easy to find as it used to be . . . > make sure he is covered with clothing all over or any spot he > touches (bare skin to bare skin) will be infected This is only true if he touches other areas of his body *before* washing! It's the oils from the poison ivy that cause the rash and that can be spread to other areas. Once they're washed off, it doesn't matter how much the rash oozes, it can't be spread any further. This is a very old, but nonetheless very mistaken, belief . . . As far as infection goes, though, if the rash is severe, it *can* become infected. Basically it's an open sore, subject to infection like any other, so keepin the area clean is important. There's also another product on the market called " Ivy Dry. " I've never used it because I don't get poison ivy, but a friend who does swears by it. Good luck to your friend! HTH, rox ______________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 4, 2003 My turn..... By lye soap, I find the homemade soap to be much better at healing MY poison ivy. I do not agree that all soaps are lye soap. Many of the commercial bars that are touted as soap are detergents. You are correct with the comment " There just ain't no way to make soap w/out using lye! " BUT, if a person is not informed, then he/she assumes that all 'soap' purchased at the store is 'soap'. >> make sure he is covered with clothing all over or any spot he > touches (bare skin to bare skin) will be infected This is only true if he touches other areas of his body *before* washing! It's the oils from the poison ivy that cause the rash and that can be spread to other areas. Once they're washed off, it doesn't matter how much the rash oozes, it can't be spread any further. This is a very old, but nonetheless very mistaken, belief . . . Unfortunately this is NOT true. My husband and I sleep in the buff. The times I have poison and he touches it, then places his arm across me in other areas, I end up with poison ivy there (at the new location). There are also drops available at health food stores that will aid in getting rid of Poison Ivy. Not sure of the name, but it is several doses after you have been in contact with the poison. Betty Ott Soaps by Betty - gentlelake Monday, August 04, 2003 1:57 PM Re: Poison Ivy OK . . . gotta clear up a few things here . . . . " Betty Ott " <booper19 writes: > Have her/him wash with homemade > lye soap... Don't exactly > know what it is in the lye soap (aside from the fact that this soap > removes the oils/drainage from the poison), but it sure helps. What do you mean by " lye soap? " *All* soap is made w/ lye . . . whether it's home mede soap, so-called " glycerine " soap, liquid soap, or any of the " eveil corporate " soaps. There just ain't no way to make soap w/out using lye! What I have heard/read, though is that old fashoined Fels Naptha soap can be helpful for poison ivy . . . It's just not as easy to find as it used to be . . . > make sure he is covered with clothing all over or any spot he > touches (bare skin to bare skin) will be infected This is only true if he touches other areas of his body *before* washing! It's the oils from the poison ivy that cause the rash and that can be spread to other areas. Once they're washed off, it doesn't matter how much the rash oozes, it can't be spread any further. This is a very old, but nonetheless very mistaken, belief . . . As far as infection goes, though, if the rash is severe, it *can* become infected. Basically it's an open sore, subject to infection like any other, so keepin the area clean is important. There's also another product on the market called " Ivy Dry. " I've never used it because I don't get poison ivy, but a friend who does swears by it. Good luck to your friend! HTH, rox Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 4, 2003 Oh, how I do love synchronicities . . . I was just reading another list and someone mentioned that liquid bandage (New Shin is one brand) is great for poison ivy! Might be worth a try . . . rox ______________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 4, 2003 Cool, Thanks...Will forward it on.. Carol - gentlelake Monday, August 04, 2003 2:51 PM Re: Poison Ivy Oh, how I do love synchronicities . . . I was just reading another list and someone mentioned that liquid bandage (New Shin is one brand) is great for poison ivy! Might be worth a try . . . rox ______________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 4, 2003 Thanks, I will check out the health stores tomorrow ( Canadian Holiday today), You have me curious.. Carol - Betty Ott Monday, August 04, 2003 2:36 PM Re: Re: Poison Ivy My turn..... By lye soap, I find the homemade soap to be much better at healing MY poison ivy. I do not agree that all soaps are lye soap. Many of the commercial bars that are touted as soap are detergents. You are correct with the comment " There just ain't no way to make soap w/out using lye! " BUT, if a person is not informed, then he/she assumes that all 'soap' purchased at the store is 'soap'. >> make sure he is covered with clothing all over or any spot he > touches (bare skin to bare skin) will be infected This is only true if he touches other areas of his body *before* washing! It's the oils from the poison ivy that cause the rash and that can be spread to other areas. Once they're washed off, it doesn't matter how much the rash oozes, it can't be spread any further. This is a very old, but nonetheless very mistaken, belief . . . Unfortunately this is NOT true. My husband and I sleep in the buff. The times I have poison and he touches it, then places his arm across me in other areas, I end up with poison ivy there (at the new location). There are also drops available at health food stores that will aid in getting rid of Poison Ivy. Not sure of the name, but it is several doses after you have been in contact with the poison. Betty Ott Soaps by Betty - gentlelake Monday, August 04, 2003 1:57 PM Re: Poison Ivy OK . . . gotta clear up a few things here . . . . " Betty Ott " <booper19 writes: > Have her/him wash with homemade > lye soap... Don't exactly > know what it is in the lye soap (aside from the fact that this soap > removes the oils/drainage from the poison), but it sure helps. What do you mean by " lye soap? " *All* soap is made w/ lye . . . whether it's home mede soap, so-called " glycerine " soap, liquid soap, or any of the " eveil corporate " soaps. There just ain't no way to make soap w/out using lye! What I have heard/read, though is that old fashoined Fels Naptha soap can be helpful for poison ivy . . . It's just not as easy to find as it used to be . . . > make sure he is covered with clothing all over or any spot he > touches (bare skin to bare skin) will be infected This is only true if he touches other areas of his body *before* washing! It's the oils from the poison ivy that cause the rash and that can be spread to other areas. Once they're washed off, it doesn't matter how much the rash oozes, it can't be spread any further. This is a very old, but nonetheless very mistaken, belief . . . As far as infection goes, though, if the rash is severe, it *can* become infected. Basically it's an open sore, subject to infection like any other, so keepin the area clean is important. There's also another product on the market called " Ivy Dry. " I've never used it because I don't get poison ivy, but a friend who does swears by it. Good luck to your friend! HTH, rox Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 5, 2003 You can look for a couple of things at the health food store that may help with your poison ivy. The first one is Burts Bees Poison Ivy Soap, and the second one is any Jewelweed drops or spray. j > > I will check out the health stores tomorrow ( Canadian Holiday today), You have me curious.. > > Carol --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.505 / Virus Database: 302 - Release 7/31/03 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 5, 2003 gentlelake writes: > (New Shin is one brand) is great for poison ivy! Ooops! That's s'pozed to be New Skin!! ;^P rox ______________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 5, 2003 " Betty Ott " <booper19 writes: > I do not agree that all soaps are lye soap. Many of > the commercial bars that are touted as soap are detergents. True, but even detergents are made w/ lye! And, unfortunately, as I understand it FDA regs allow even some detergents to be labeled as " soap. " <grrrrrr> And some of the eveil corporate soaps are true soap, too . . . . But wheter soap, detergent, or so-called glycerine M & P, they're still all made w/ lye . . . > are correct with the comment " There just ain't no way to make soap > w/out > using lye! " BUT, if a person is not informed, then he/she assumes > that all 'soap' purchased at the store is 'soap'. So the point of debate here is the word " soap " rather than lye, right? No arguement there . . . I'm in complete agreeemnet that most of what people buy believing to be " soap " is really detergent. I just think it's misleading to call home made - or *any* - soap " lye soap. " For one thing it's redundant (i.e. since all soap is make w/ lye, it doewn't need to be repeated), and it also perpetuated the myth that some soap (or detergent or M & P) is made w/out lye. ;^) > Unfortunately this is NOT true. My husband and I sleep in the buff. > The times I have poison and he touches it, then places his arm > across me in other areas, I end up with poison ivy there (at the new > location). Well, I'm not about to argue w/ your experience, though it contradicts things I've read repeatedly (and I'm also assuming that you'd already washed the areas thoroughly. ;^P). We all know that there are lots of *new* spouses' tales being created daily. Mebbe this is just another example (the stuff I've read, not your experience). Like I said, I don't get poision ivy, so I don't know first hand . . . my ex got it badly, though, so I used to read a lot about it. rox ______________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 13, 2004 Sandi... Usually where you have poison ivy growing, you also have it's antidote, Jewelweed aka Touch me not. Google for a picture. Jewelweed has a hollow stem and is a cousin of the Impatience houseplant. It's the juice in that hollow stem that is the antidote. Stick some juicy stems in a jar with AC vinegar, always make sure the vinegar tops the stems. Put that solution on the affected area. Or just split a stem open and use the juice that way.. There might be some soapmakers on this list who make jewelweed soap, worth a try.. C-M Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 13, 2004 Hi Sandi, Jewel weed - (Impatiens pallida) or (Impatiens capensis) - is probably one of the BEST remedies for poison ivy! It can be used fresh, as a tea and as a tincture. I know that Herbs, Etc out of Santa Fe, NM has a blend called " Ivy Itch Re-leaf " that contains it http://www.herbsetc.com/shopping/i/ivy_itch_releaf.htm *Smile* Chris (list mom) http://www.alittleolfactory.com avos3857 [avos3857] we have loads of poison ivy in our 'wetlands " in the back of the house, can anyone tell me if there are any oils that you can put on yourself after you have been in contact with poison ivy. Daughter is always coming in with 'poison ivy', last year she had it so bad had to be on Prednisone. thanking you all in advance for any help sandi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 14, 2004 Pick up Technu...!!!! It's OTC...it's GREAT!!!!!!! Celtic - avos3857 Thursday, May 13, 2004 12:46 PM poison ivy we have loads of poison ivy in our 'wetlands " in the back of the house, can anyone tell me if there are any oils that you can put on yourself after you have been in contact with poison ivy. Daughter is always coming in with 'poison ivy', last year she had it so bad had to be on Prednisone. thanking you all in advance for any help sandi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
