Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 Hello, I do not want to cause trouble if there are any YL distributors here, it is very hard to get info about them without paying- a request for info got me a website they created for me - I never used it, I was on there list for a few days, got a few e-mails and kinda got the feeling that I was being sucked into a money scam, they offer seminars, very costly, that are close to my home by I am leary. Plus they seem to offer mostly there own blends, which I don't care for. I would appreciate any insight on them- again I don't want to offend anyone who is a member of this organization. Thank-you Emryldgea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 Egads! All I can say is stay AWAY, don't drink the Kool-Aid .. don't even touch them with anyone else's ten foot pole! Check out the Young Living Files http://www.fragrant.demon.co.uk/ylfiles.html That info contained there is just the tip of the iceberg about those dangerous sheisters, dare I go so far as to say - borderline cult members! .... *Smile* Chris (list mom) http://www.alittleolfactory.com And PLEASE feel free to offend the organization of YL on my list anytime - we don't bother to offend the distributors as they too are victims of the scam and are being used - we feel sorry for them and just try to unbrainwash if possible! emryldgea wrote: > Hello, > I do not want to cause trouble if there are any YL distributors > here, it is very hard to get info about them without paying- a > request for info got me a website they created for me - I never used > it, I was on there list for a few days, got a few e-mails and kinda > got the feeling that I was being sucked into a money scam, they > offer seminars, very costly, that are close to my home by I am > leary. Plus they seem to offer mostly there own blends, which I > don't care for. > I would appreciate any insight on them- again I don't want to offend > anyone who is a member of this organization. > Thank-you > Emryldgea > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 , Chris Ziegler <chrisziggy1@a...> wrote: > Egads! > All I can say is stay AWAY, don't drink the Kool-Aid .. don't even touch > them with anyone else's ten foot pole! > > Check out the Young Living Files > http://www.fragrant.demon.co.uk/ylfiles.html > > That info contained there is just the tip of the iceberg about those > dangerous sheisters, dare I go so far as to say - borderline cult > members! .... > > *Smile* > Chris (list mom) > http://www.alittleolfactory.com > > And PLEASE feel free to offend the organization of YL on my list anytime > - we don't bother to offend the distributors as they too are victims of > the scam and are being used - we feel sorry for them and just try to > unbrainwash if possible! > Well, I am new here and didn't want to use the word Cult, but yeah thats the feeling I got- sometimes that little voice in your head works- they seem to be growing around my neck or the woods- Catskills in NY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 Oh Chris, Marilyn- You're are being too gentle with this naive young person. (Naive only in the term of lack of information and knowledge about the demon seed that abounds, no offense meant to you, plenty heaped on Gary the smuck Young.) RUN FOR YOUR LIFE! DON'T LOOK BACK! DON'T BUY IN! DON'T DRINK THE KOOL AID, DON'T SMELL THE POTION. Educate yourself, be a survivor. Borderline cult, Chris, you are too kind. Ok I will sip some tea and breathe and chill out.... Run you poor child, run, they have not captured you yet. Ok mellowing out. Janet >Egads! >All I can say is stay AWAY, don't drink the Kool-Aid .. don't even touch >them with anyone else's ten foot pole! > >Check out the Young Living Files ><http://www.fragrant.demon.co.uk/ylfiles.html>http://www.fragrant.demon.co.uk/y\ lfiles.html > >That info contained there is just the tip of the iceberg about those >dangerous sheisters, dare I go so far as to say - borderline cult >members! .... > >*Smile* >Chris (list mom) ><http://www.alittleolfactory.com>http://www.alittleolfactory.com > >And PLEASE feel free to offend the organization of YL on my list anytime >- we don't bother to offend the distributors as they too are victims of >the scam and are being used - we feel sorry for them and just try to >unbrainwash if possible! > > > >emryldgea wrote: > > > Hello, > > I do not want to cause trouble if there are any YL distributors > > here, it is very hard to get info about them without paying- a > > request for info got me a website they created for me - I never used > > it, I was on there list for a few days, got a few e-mails and kinda > > got the feeling that I was being sucked into a money scam, they > > offer seminars, very costly, that are close to my home by I am > > leary. Plus they seem to offer mostly there own blends, which I > > don't care for. > > I would appreciate any insight on them- again I don't want to offend > > anyone who is a member of this organization. > > Thank-you > > Emryldgea > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 Hiya, They're everywhere... scary, kinda.........YL's coming outta the woodwork??? AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!! Hugs, Marilyn emryldgea wrote: > , Chris Ziegler <chrisziggy1@a...> wrote: > > Egads! > > All I can say is stay AWAY, don't drink the Kool-Aid .. don't even > touch > > them with anyone else's ten foot pole! > > > > Check out the Young Living Files > > http://www.fragrant.demon.co.uk/ylfiles.html > > > > That info contained there is just the tip of the iceberg about > those > > dangerous sheisters, dare I go so far as to say - borderline cult > > members! .... > > > > *Smile* > > Chris (list mom) > > http://www.alittleolfactory.com > > > > And PLEASE feel free to offend the organization of YL on my list > anytime > > - we don't bother to offend the distributors as they too are > victims of > > the scam and are being used - we feel sorry for them and just try > to > > unbrainwash if possible! > > > Well, I am new here and didn't want to use the word Cult, but yeah > thats the feeling I got- sometimes that little voice in your head > works- they seem to be growing around my neck or the woods- > Catskills in NY. > > My Pictures of Aromatic Plants and Exotic Places In Turkey > http://members.home.net/chrisziggy1/triptoturkey.html > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 On an herbal remedy list that I am on....someone asked about learning more re: EOs. One of the more ...how do I put this.... " know-it-alls " is a good phrase suggested she research the Young Living Oils. He would even suggest a dealer for her. I wanted to say something but I am more of a lurker on that list and not really knowing much about YL except what you good folks have said in the past, I didn't know what exactly to tell this person. Any suggestions? I really want to butt in and warn her but need you alls experience to lean on. Linda Red Barn Enterprises PayPal Now Available!!! http://www.geocities.com/redbarnenterprises Candles & Metal Home Decor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 Hi Linda, (and Doug if you're there <grin>), You could, if you wanted to, e-mail her off-list and warn her...........or just butt in and tell it like it is onlist! Good luck! Hugs, Marilyn Doug & Linda Manley wrote: > On an herbal remedy list that I am on....someone asked about learning more re: EOs. One of the more ...how do I put this.... " know-it-alls " is a good phrase suggested she research the Young Living Oils. He would even suggest a dealer for her. I wanted to say something but I am more of a lurker on that list and not really knowing much about YL except what you good folks have said in the past, I didn't know what exactly to tell this person. Any suggestions? I really want to butt in and warn her but need you alls experience to lean on. > Linda > Red Barn Enterprises > PayPal Now Available!!! > http://www.geocities.com/redbarnenterprises > Candles & Metal Home Decor > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 Kathleen & Marilyn, I think I will post the link and see what happens. Thanks. I am still open to other suggestions though, as I am sure this will start something!!!! Linda Red Barn Enterprises PayPal Now Available!!! http://www.geocities.com/redbarnenterprises Candles & Metal Home Decor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 Hey Linda, Just post the Link that Chris put out there a few minutes ago. Just say it's an informational link about Young Living (after all, it's RESEARCH LOL)and leave it at that. If people REALLY are interested in checking out the company, then they will, if not, well, they deserve what they get! IMO Cheers! Kathleen Petrides SmeLLeNNiuM: 101 Aromatic Stories http://www.101aromas.com - " Doug & Linda Manley " <redbarn Monday, January 14, 2002 2:55 PM Re: Young living oils > On an herbal remedy list that I am on....someone asked about learning more re: EOs. One of the more ...how do I put this.... " know-it-alls " is a good phrase suggested she research the Young Living Oils. He would even suggest a dealer for her. I wanted to say something but I am more of a lurker on that list and not really knowing much about YL except what you good folks have said in the past, I didn't know what exactly to tell this person. Any suggestions? I really want to butt in and warn her but need you alls experience to lean on. > Linda > Red Barn Enterprises > PayPal Now Available!!! > http://www.geocities.com/redbarnenterprises > Candles & Metal Home Decor > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 Here is the post I made to the other list. The moderator does not allow links to other webpages so I couldn't give the link. herbal remedies, Michael Riversong <rivedu@e...> wrote:> As for oils, there are a number of sources out there, including most health > food stores and many " New Age " gift shops. I have observed that consistently the highest quality oils are those from Young Living, which is > a multilevel. I know a couple of distributors if you want to check that out privately.> Hello all, I am usually a lurker here on this list, have been taking in all of the great info for quite a few month now but I just had to say something in regard to the above statement. Several months ago I started researching EOs and reading everything about them. My opinion and I want to say that again, My opinion, of Young living is....stay away from that company. I don't want to offend any dealers that may be here and I know Doc doesn't like links to other companies posted so if you would like more information about them you can email me privately at redbarn@i... There are several more reputable sources to get EOs. Again this is my opinion as well as all of the aromatherapists that I know. Linda Linda Red Barn Enterprises PayPal Now Available!!! http://www.geocities.com/redbarnenterprises Candles & Metal Home Decor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2002 Report Share Posted January 14, 2002 Well Linda' Welcome to the wars of Aromatherapy! ROFLMAO! Be prepared for comments like, They sell therapeutic grade oils (RUBBISH! No such animal) which is why they cost alittle (LOT) more. They have pure oils (so does everyone else), they grow all their plants and distill them themselves. Yea RIGHT! Roses from UTAH? SANDALWOOD from Utah? yep! Have fun and don't get frightened by the responses you may recieve. Cheers! Kathleen Petrides SmeLLeNNiuM: 101 Aromatic Stories http://www.101aromas.com - " Doug & Linda Manley " <redbarn Monday, January 14, 2002 3:32 PM Re: Young living oils > Here is the post I made to the other list. The moderator does not allow links to other webpages so I couldn't give the link. > > herbal remedies, Michael Riversong <rivedu@e...> wrote:> > As for oils, there are a number of sources out there, including most health > food stores and many " New Age " gift shops. I have observed that consistently the highest quality oils are those from Young Living, which is > > a multilevel. I know a couple of distributors if you want to check that out privately.> > > Hello all, > > I am usually a lurker here on this list, have been taking in all of the great info for quite a few month now but I just had to say something in regard to the above statement. Several months ago I started researching EOs and reading everything about them. My opinion and I want to say that again, My opinion, of Young living is....stay away from that company. I don't want to offend any > dealers that may be here and I know Doc doesn't like links to other > companies posted so if you would like more information about them you can email me privately at redbarn@i... There are several > more reputable sources to get EOs. Again this is my opinion as well as all of the aromatherapists that I know. > > Linda > Linda > Red Barn Enterprises > PayPal Now Available!!! > http://www.geocities.com/redbarnenterprises > Candles & Metal Home Decor > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 Sorry this is a bit late in the thread, but only just seen the mails. I just cannot understand the mind processes of anyone who acknowledges that Young Living is a scam company, yet then goes and asks if their oils are any good. What the heck is the point in buying oils (even if they are ok) from a company whose top honcho - Gary Young - is a proven liar of the worst kind. That statement has been well clarified by the article by Dr. Briggs as well as numerous other investigations by a variety of people over the years. With the record of a company boss like that, then it should be clear to anyone that his lies will permeate throughout the whole of their business activities. Martin Watt http://www.aromamedical.com , " Janine " <Janine@B...> wrote: > Except for England, which calls its hydrosols, 'floral waters' and the > company I use distills their own oils, from a still. lol > > Now, Gary Young I have read about as being a shyster. He's a lot like, oops, > I better not go there. > > However, when I told someone on the phone the other day his oils are junk, > they asked me why. > I couldn't answer with specifics. Without a long diatribe, is it possible to > tell me in maybe 5 short sentences why his oils are nasty? > He adulterates them? > > I told her I know his practices are wrong, raindrop therapy indeed!, but > what exactly about the oils? She has some that she loves and one is a > combination called relax or stress or something. > > > Janine Phariss > www.BlueSageNaturals.com > > Not an aromatherapist, not a soapmaker, but an herbalist. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 Because most people want cold, hard facts about things. I do not know this woman personally, only via the phone as a customer. Just because I say someone is a liar, most probably will not make a dent in her thinking, just because *I* said it. I have had no experience with Young or any of his products. *I* certainly would not go by hearsay and most of my friends/customers do not either. There are thousands of people from the talk on here, who do not know if he's a liar or not, so buying his oils makes sense to them. I figured the mind processes were evident to thinking adults. Janine Phariss www.BlueSageNaturals.com Fade scars, relieve pain, clear up eczema! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 Hi Martin, I've had quite a few people basically shrug off the fact that GY and YL are a scam organization and say " but if their oils are good ... " which in my mind is a shame that anyone would want to do business with and support an organization that is unscrupulous! When I posted an editorial to a magazine in Colorado against RDT and called GY a quack at the end of it you wouldn't be surprised how many personal attacks I received, calling me a jealous person with malicious intent who was just seeking to promote myself and all the praises that GY got as a wonderful human being out to save the planet Mind you, I never once mentioned my business or web site or anything in the letter, just that I passed a clinical aromatherapy course and talked about the dangers of irritation and sensitization when using essential oils neat. I posted Graham's YL Files web link and the link to Eva's (Dr. Briggs') article in the editorial and all they focused on was how could anyone post any article from " Quackwatch " since the guy who runs that site can be a bit extreme against any alternative therapies ... but they ignored any and all of the facts. PERIOD! Good thing was I got a few personal phone calls from folks who actually looked me up in the phone book just to say thanks for writing the letter, so I suppose a few folks listened and know better! *Smile* Chris (list mom) http://www.alittleolfactory.com aromamedical2003 [aromamedical-2] Wednesday, December 03, 2003 6:52 AM Re: Young Living oils Sorry this is a bit late in the thread, but only just seen the mails. I just cannot understand the mind processes of anyone who acknowledges that Young Living is a scam company, yet then goes and asks if their oils are any good. What the heck is the point in buying oils (even if they are ok) from a company whose top honcho - Gary Young - is a proven liar of the worst kind. That statement has been well clarified by the article by Dr. Briggs as well as numerous other investigations by a variety of people over the years. With the record of a company boss like that, then it should be clear to anyone that his lies will permeate throughout the whole of their business activities. Martin Watt http://www.aromamedical.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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