Guest guest Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 Hi Emmanuel I can't find the herb Jiao Gu Lan in my Bensky Materia Medica. Is that the same as Jiao Mu (the seeds of Chuan Jiao Pericarpium Zanthoxyli Bungeani)? Thanks for sharing what looks like a great formula for many patients in need!! Of course, we must always differentiate carefully when patients come to us with a " medical diagnosis " such as elevated cholesterol but this looks like a good place to start with many. Regards, Shanna Hospital #1 in Shanghai has in recent years used a formula utilizing the following herbs: Shan Zha, Jue Ming Zi, He Shou Wu, Tian Qi, Hu Zhang, Jiao Gu Lan, and Lai Fu Zi. This lowers cholesterol as well or better than statins with no observable side effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 Jiao Lu gan is gynostemma HERBS AND HELPERS Lorraine Hodgkinson MNIMH MRCHM KPC herbs Prescription Service OUR AIM: Quality and Value www.herbalmedicineuk.com - shannahickle Chinese Medicine Friday, July 02, 2004 4:53 PM Re: Segman statin formula clarification Hi Emmanuel I can't find the herb Jiao Gu Lan in my Bensky Materia Medica. Is that the same as Jiao Mu (the seeds of Chuan Jiao Pericarpium Zanthoxyli Bungeani)? Thanks for sharing what looks like a great formula for many patients in need!! Of course, we must always differentiate carefully when patients come to us with a " medical diagnosis " such as elevated cholesterol but this looks like a good place to start with many. Regards, Shanna Hospital #1 in Shanghai has in recent years used a formula utilizing the following herbs: Shan Zha, Jue Ming Zi, He Shou Wu, Tian Qi, Hu Zhang, Jiao Gu Lan, and Lai Fu Zi. This lowers cholesterol as well or better than statins with no observable side effects. Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. http://babel.altavista.com/ and adjust accordingly. If you , it takes a few days for the messages to stop being delivered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 Hi Shanna, Jiao Gu Lan is Gynnostemma phentaphyllum Herba. The entire aerial parts are used by local people in Shaanxi Province, but most precisely it's the stem of the vine. You can find it coiled or cut into conveniently sized pieces of two to four inches. The more bitter the taste, the more effective the results in the formula. It is viewed by Taoists as a Kidney jing tonic along with the Gou Qi Zi of the neighboring autonomous region, Ningha Huizu Zizhiqu. At least the local priests of Shaanxi as well as Liu Ming of Oakland, CA and Nam Singh of San Francisco discuss this. In school we're taught that Kidney jing can not be tonified. Connect with me offlist to get a price for the crude herb. Regarding use of the vine stem of Jiao Gu Lan, the locals in Shaanxi as well as the Chinese here in America make tea of Jaio Gu Lan alone. I can buy it as an instant tea in my 99 Ranch grocery store near my home in Richmond, CA. Regarding use in formulas, Dr. Kang utilized it in Shanghai Hospital #1 as well as here in his practice in San Francisco. We have a website (connect with me off list) that you can look at and see how Dr. Kang utilizes the herb in the formulas. He has it in many of the formulas listed at that site. Dr. Kang indicates that Jiao Gu Lan can strengthen the Liver function and also clear triglycerides from a fatty liver. This greatly improves issues around hepatitis and high cholesterol. He also utilizes Jiao Gu Lan in his longevity/tonic formula. That's listed on the website as well. I think of it as both a liver and a kidney tonic. I sense that it acts adaptogenically like Eleutherococcus root. As I recall, Jiao Gu Lan was listed in the new Ten Lectures book at Redwing. Ten Lectures on the Use of Medicinals from Personal Exp JSD by Shu-De Jiao, Craig Mitchell (tr) / Chinese Med Herbs & Formulas Go to: http://www.redwingbooks.com/products/books/TenLecUseChiMed.cfm in order to purchase this book. It's the new material medica that also lists the real Shui Ban Xia as Typhonium flagelliforme Rhizome in p. 359. I'm using this book every day now. It pretty much replaces Bensky though it's different enough that I tend to use both. I hope this helps a bit. Please note from previous posts that Merck became interested in looking for molecules to lower cholesterol when it became common knowledge in some circles that clinical practitioners in Shanghai hospitals and other major facilities were routinely lowering cholesterol quite effectively with Chinese herbal formulas. The mismatch between using pharmacologically active individual molecules and whole extracts of herbal formulas is really quite profound. It's the focus of my own work as a biochemist/genetic engineer working in Chinese medicine at different companies since 1991. I'll leave off here as this topic itself is novel length. Respectfully, Emmanuel Segmen - shannahickle Chinese Medicine Friday, July 02, 2004 8:53 AM Re: Segman statin formula clarification Hi Emmanuel I can't find the herb Jiao Gu Lan in my Bensky Materia Medica. Is that the same as Jiao Mu (the seeds of Chuan Jiao Pericarpium Zanthoxyli Bungeani)? Thanks for sharing what looks like a great formula for many patients in need!! Of course, we must always differentiate carefully when patients come to us with a " medical diagnosis " such as elevated cholesterol but this looks like a good place to start with many. Regards, Shanna Hospital #1 in Shanghai has in recent years used a formula utilizing the following herbs: Shan Zha, Jue Ming Zi, He Shou Wu, Tian Qi, Hu Zhang, Jiao Gu Lan, and Lai Fu Zi. This lowers cholesterol as well or better than statins with no observable side effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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