More vegies ... you gotta love it.

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Attilio,

 

I was just musing on one of my best buddies ... a guy named Anurag, an engineer

from Delhi. He grew up vegetarian, became an engineer, faired quite well in

Silicon Valley .... even ran some marathons. He took me to his favorite

restaurant in Sunnyvale, CA which has a branch in Berkeley. It's a vegetarian

restaurant called Udupi. I've been to many Indian restaurants that serve meat,

and mostly European Americans are in attendance. At both Udupi restaurants,

each place is packed with Indians. You can occasionally hear some English

spoken in the Berkeley branch, but I didn't ever hear much in the Sunnyvale

branch. Seems what you are saying of Indians in India is also true of Indians

in America. They love their vegetarian food. Actually I love their vegetarian

food, too. I particularly like your point about nourishing the Yin since urban

life is so Yang. My friend Anurag seems to achieve more by maintaining balance

and moderation. He's a rare one that way amidst the Silicon Valley engineers.

He's always admonishing me not to take on too much at once. He has this great

way of saying, " Rrrramp up, Emmanuel. Ramp up. " His way of saying, go slow.

 

Respectfully,

Emmanuel Segmen

-

Attilio D'Alberto

Chinese Medicine

Monday, April 26, 2004 7:44 PM

RE: Menopause

 

 

Go to India, there's millions of balanced, well-tempered vegetarians that

are healthily and very happy. In actual-fact, in a broad generalisation, the

temper is often better controlled in a vegetarian than in a Yang meat eater

as your less likely to have Phlegm-Heat build up causing irritability and a

short temper.

 

I think that it isn't so necessary to consume Yang foods as we are in a

physical, human Yang world. Actually, alot of us are Yin deficient and get

lost in the Yang of our daily lives. Some people need to take time-out and

nourish their Yin of intuition and wisdom, rather than the Yang of hustle

and bustle as alot of us are living in an Empty Heat state of life.

 

Kind regards

 

Attilio

 

 

 

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Hi Emmanuel.

 

Ahh yes Delhi, love the place. I heard they've banned cows from Delhi now,

unbelievable! I'm not a great lover of north Indian food personally, I

prefer the southern Indian diet. Alot more Indians are starting to consume

meat now that there moving towards the west, more so in northern India than

the south. How sad. Having said that, no McD or any other fast food place

has beef burgers, its all veggie or fish, actually maybe some chicken

aswell. Sorry Zev, I had to go there once, they have the strongest A/C in

Delhi! Like I said before, 47C heat, thick humidity in the air, vegetarian

diet, and no hint of any irritability, rather the opposite, everyone's

shanti shanti.

 

Kind regards

 

Attilio

 

<Chinese Traditional Medicine>

Chinese Traditional Medicine

 

 

Emmanuel Segmen [susegmen]

27 April 2004 09:10

Chinese Medicine

More vegies ... you gotta love it.

 

 

Attilio,

 

I was just musing on one of my best buddies ... a guy named Anurag, an

engineer from Delhi. He grew up vegetarian, became an engineer, faired

quite well in Silicon Valley .... even ran some marathons. He took me to

his favorite restaurant in Sunnyvale, CA which has a branch in Berkeley.

It's a vegetarian restaurant called Udupi. I've been to many Indian

restaurants that serve meat, and mostly European Americans are in

attendance. At both Udupi restaurants, each place is packed with Indians.

You can occasionally hear some English spoken in the Berkeley branch, but I

didn't ever hear much in the Sunnyvale branch. Seems what you are saying of

Indians in India is also true of Indians in America. They love their

vegetarian food. Actually I love their vegetarian food, too. I

particularly like your point about nourishing the Yin since urban life is so

Yang. My friend Anurag seems to achieve more by maintaining balance and

moderation. He's a rare one that way amidst the Silicon Valley engineers.

He's always admonishing me not to take on too much at once. He has this

great way of saying, " Rrrramp up, Emmanuel. Ramp up. " His way of saying,

go slow.

 

Respectfully,

Emmanuel Segmen

-

Attilio D'Alberto

Chinese Medicine

Monday, April 26, 2004 7:44 PM

RE: Menopause

 

 

Go to India, there's millions of balanced, well-tempered vegetarians that

are healthily and very happy. In actual-fact, in a broad generalisation,

the

temper is often better controlled in a vegetarian than in a Yang meat

eater

as your less likely to have Phlegm-Heat build up causing irritability and

a

short temper.

 

I think that it isn't so necessary to consume Yang foods as we are in a

physical, human Yang world. Actually, alot of us are Yin deficient and get

lost in the Yang of our daily lives. Some people need to take time-out and

nourish their Yin of intuition and wisdom, rather than the Yang of hustle

and bustle as alot of us are living in an Empty Heat state of life.

 

Kind regards

 

Attilio

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

--- Emmanuel Segmen <susegmen wrote: >

their vegetarian food, too. I particularly like

> your point about nourishing the Yin since urban life

> is so Yang.

 

This point might need to be belaboured further, or

" this dead horse could use a beating " , if you will: If

we live in a yang society, eating mroe yang foods will

increase the our yang, so that then we can increase

the yang of our society, all the while our yin gets

weaker and weaker - it's what we're doing, and it

never ends! It's a point not lost on people who come

to me burnt out, despite their high meat intake. Can't

win this way. Pattern differentiation folks.

 

> My friend Anurag seems to achieve more

> by maintaining balance and moderation. He's a rare

> one that way amidst the Silicon Valley engineers.

> He's always admonishing me not to take on too much

> at once. He has this great way of saying, " Rrrramp

> up, Emmanuel. Ramp up. " His way of saying, go

> slow.

 

haha I am mystified as to how my friends, who

often eat plenty of meat, have so much less energy

than I do (I don't eat meat).

 

I do not advocate vegetarianism for everyone. I

advocate pattern differentiation + goals.

 

Thanks,

Hugo

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Emmanuel, & All,

 

> I was just musing on one of my best buddies ... a guy named

> Anurag, an engineer from Delhi. ... [etc, including great Indian

> veggie food]...

 

Sure, vegetarian food, skillfully prepared can be delicious and

nutritious.

 

But we also talk of balance in life and diet. For me, balance means

moderation and blending the five tastes, five colours, 5 meats, etc.

 

I am friends with two Indian colleagues, a husband-wife couple,

both vets completing their PhDs in Dublin just now. We invited

them to our home for dinner recently. The man eats meat (but not

beef, on religious grounds) but his wife eats no meat or fish of any

kind. However, she eats some animal products - dairy produce,

eggs, honey, etc. He drinks moderate amounts of beer or wine;

she does not. Neither smokes.

 

Both are radiantly healthy, happy and vibrant people. If they need

medicine, they rely mainly on Ayurveda (herbs and ointments).

 

As the French say: " Vive la difference! " . Or as George Bernard

Shaw said: " Value your eccentrics! "

 

It reminds me of the old Nursery Rhyme that my grandfather taught

me:

 

Jack Spratt could eat no fat;

his wife could eat no lean.

Between them both,

they killed the goat,

and licked their dishes clean!

 

 

 

 

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Hi Everyone!

 

--- < wrote:

 

> But we also talk of balance in life and diet. For

> me, balance means

> moderation and blending the five tastes, five

> colours, 5 meats, etc.

 

We've probably all reached the point where we're

saying the same thing now. Just like to add that part

of " the balance " is that some people will not use

meat, just like it should never happen that everyone

in the world follow Chinese medicine. Moderation means

something different every second and every place.

Purists and Extremists have their function and place.

Where would the sinners and moderates go without them?

 

Thanks,

Hugo

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Attilio:

Ahh yes Delhi, love the place. I heard they've banned cows from Delhi now,

unbelievable! I'm not a great lover of north Indian food personally, I

prefer the southern Indian diet.

>

>

In India there are as many distinct languages as there are food-cultures,

the former

being at last count some 800 odd.

 

The robust wheat based people of Punjab, to the north and west, Land of the

Five

Rivers, are great hosts and will feed you to within an inch of apoplexy.

Then you have

to dance the wild Bhangra, till the cows come home. Their food is all color

and spice and

wheat cake and seed oil with not one apology in sight.

 

By contrast the Delta Land to the far east which comprises of Bengal to the

south

and Assam to the north, nestled in the foothills which threaten to become

the mighty

Himalayas, one runs into the rice culture.

 

It's rice cake, rice gruel, rice biscuits and even rice noodles. The spices

are lighter

and fish creeps into every possible meal imaginable, because all of Bengal

sits

on the funnel which opens onto the Bay which leads to the mad turbulent

seas,

which provide staple, character and massive drowning to the People of the

Delta,

on a regular basis.

 

They too sing and dance, but the pace is slower, more purposeful,

meditative.

These are smaller people, and therefore more introspective.

 

In between you have the countless foods and traditions, one is never without

the other.

If you eat any meal in India, you are partaking of centuries of tradition.

 

Now everyone knows that the Rice People will die before they eat wheat; and

the Wheat

People consider it beneath the dignity to even look at rice.

 

In 1904 or so the People of the Delta came upon floods and famine, and tens

of thousands

died as there stood, or sat huddled with large eyes. The Wheat People sent

in train loads

of the grain. When the wagons arrived, the hungry men saw wheat, went mad

with what little strength

they had, and decided to die rather than take the outlandish food of the

Heathen.

 

Which was very educative for the British Civil Servants who ruled India.

Probably that

may have been when they decided to quit.

 

Now I live on far shores and the places of younger days are remembrances

which hurt

the heart and sustain the soul.

 

Gone the boy's wanderings most aimless, the dusty lanes, the pungent aroma

of food

from cloistered homes which lined winding lanes.

 

I cannot go back, the days cannot return. All that remains is to remember,

and write to

strangers I will never meet.

 

Dr. Holmes Keikobad

MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ

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