Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes, help...

[Guest guest]

Hi All, this is Olivier,

whose mother died of pancreatic cancer about 3 weeks ago.

 

My remaining family, my brother,

has a high degree of diabetes, with, scary,

big eye problems including cataracts.

 

QUESTION:

What are some of the best things/supplements/whatever

for diabetes?

 

My brother is supposed to have lasers in his eyes,

but only in 2 months, and things are getting worse.

He has several spots in his eye and its getting worse.

So time of the essence, once agian.

 

Any help, recommendations, opinions would be extremely

appreciated.

 

P.S. For those wondering how im doing with grieving,

the short answer is im hanging in there. Its on and off.

Christmas and jan 31 countdown will be the worse i think.

But everyone goes through this, right?

 

cheers

Olivier

[Guest guest]

Yes, Olivier, we all do. There will be times when you are unexpectedly ambushed by it. You can't prepare for those, only know they are normal.Ted --- On Tue, 12/15/09, ftfft <micfo07 wrote:ftfft <micfo07 Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes, help...oleander soup Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 11:23 PM

 

 

Hi All, this is Olivier,

whose mother died of pancreatic cancer about 3 weeks ago.

 

My remaining family, my brother,

has a high degree of diabetes, with, scary,

big eye problems including cataracts.

 

QUESTION:

What are some of the best things/supplements/ whatever

for diabetes?

 

My brother is supposed to have lasers in his eyes,

but only in 2 months, and things are getting worse.

He has several spots in his eye and its getting worse.

So time of the essence, once agian.

 

Any help, recommendations, opinions would be extremely

appreciated.

 

P.S. For those wondering how im doing with grieving,

the short answer is im hanging in there. Its on and off.

Christmas and jan 31 countdown will be the worse i think.

But everyone goes through this, right?

 

cheers

Olivier

[Guest guest]

Hi Oliver,

 

I was just asking about you a few days ago. It seemed a long time since we heard from you.

 

It is good to hear from you. The holidays are rough for lots of people

I would suggest you remember the wonderful past holidays you spent with your dear Mother and the great, happy times you had together.

 

Hugs,

Barbara N. Germany--- On Tue, 12/15/09, ftfft <micfo07 wrote:

ftfft <micfo07 Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes, help...oleander soup Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 11:23 PM

Hi All, this is Olivier,whose mother died of pancreatic cancer about 3 weeks ago.My remaining family, my brother,has a high degree of diabetes, with, scary,big eye problems including cataracts.QUESTION:What are some of the best things/supplements/whateverfor diabetes?My brother is supposed to have lasers in his eyes,but only in 2 months, and things are getting worse.He has several spots in his eye and its getting worse.So time of the essence, once agian.Any help, recommendations, opinions would be extremelyappreciated.P.S. For those wondering how im doing with grieving,the short answer is im hanging in there. Its on and off.Christmas and jan 31 countdown will be the worse i think.But everyone goes through this, right?cheersOlivier---

[Guest guest]

Olivier

I am glad to hear you are hanging in there. It will get better.

For your brother, look here:

/Diabetes.htm

All the best,

oleander soup , "ftfft" <micfo07 wrote:>> Hi All, this is Olivier,> whose mother died of pancreatic cancer about 3 weeks ago.> > My remaining family, my brother,> has a high degree of diabetes, with, scary,> big eye problems including cataracts.> > QUESTION:> What are some of the best things/supplements/whatever> for diabetes?> > My brother is supposed to have lasers in his eyes,> but only in 2 months, and things are getting worse.> He has several spots in his eye and its getting worse.> So time of the essence, once agian.> > Any help, recommendations, opinions would be extremely> appreciated.> > P.S. For those wondering how im doing with grieving,> the short answer is im hanging in there. Its on and off.> Christmas and jan 31 countdown will be the worse i think.> But everyone goes through this, right?> > cheers> Olivier>

[Guest guest]

Olivier,

 

Nice to hear from you and learn you are on the road to getting better.

Fenugreek powder has helped me a lot in bringing down my blood sugar. You can

add it into a tea, or just a glass of water. I take 1/8 tsp then measure my

blood sugar. It starts going down quickly like say, half an hour to two hours.

After around three or four hours, i check my blood sugar again, if it is not yet

at the normal range, then i take another 1/8 tsp. You can go to as much as 1/4

tsp depending on the blood sugar content of the blood. Since this powder is fast

acting, you must be very careful in using it specially if you also take diabetic

medicines. Monitor, monitor, monitor.

 

When his sugar level is normal, then make him stay away from carbohydrates

(rice, potatoes, white breads, white flours, cakes, cookies,etc.) sodas, any

form of sugar, fat. Small amounts of fresh fruits may be taken but in small

portions only as this also raises blood sugar. Lots of vegetables (small

portions on sweet ones) and beans and nuts. I use stevia liquid and powder as

sweetener. This is a natural product from a plant that does not raise blood

sugar.

 

If it were me, i will wait until the sugar level is very well stabilized before

getting eye laser surgery. Diabetics heal for a long long time. This is only

to avoid complications.

 

Wishing you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year in spite of your deeply

missing your dear Mom.

 

I'll keep you and your brother in my prayers.

 

Melly

 

oleander soup , " ftfft " <micfo07 wrote:

>

> Hi All, this is Olivier,

> whose mother died of pancreatic cancer about 3 weeks ago.

>

> My remaining family, my brother,

> has a high degree of diabetes, with, scary,

> big eye problems including cataracts.

>

> QUESTION:

> What are some of the best things/supplements/whatever

> for diabetes?

>

> My brother is supposed to have lasers in his eyes,

> but only in 2 months, and things are getting worse.

> He has several spots in his eye and its getting worse.

> So time of the essence, once agian.

>

> Any help, recommendations, opinions would be extremely

> appreciated.

>

> P.S. For those wondering how im doing with grieving,

> the short answer is im hanging in there. Its on and off.

> Christmas and jan 31 countdown will be the worse i think.

> But everyone goes through this, right?

>

> cheers

> Olivier

>

[Guest guest]

Oliver: if your brother has severe diabetes you better get

his butt down to a doctor and get him on insulin ASAP. You can worry

about finding the right supplement later.

 

 

 

 

oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf

Of tita_mel

Wednesday, December 16, 2009 11:25 AM

oleander soup

Re: Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes, help...

 

 

 

 

 

 

Olivier,

 

Nice to hear from you and learn you are on the road to getting better.

Fenugreek powder has helped me a lot in bringing down my blood sugar. You can

add it into a tea, or just a glass of water. I take 1/8 tsp then measure my

blood sugar. It starts going down quickly like say, half an hour to two hours.

After around three or four hours, i check my blood sugar again, if it is not

yet at the normal range, then i take another 1/8 tsp. You can go to as much as

1/4 tsp depending on the blood sugar content of the blood. Since this powder is

fast acting, you must be very careful in using it specially if you also take

diabetic medicines. Monitor, monitor, monitor.

 

When his sugar level is normal, then make him stay away from carbohydrates

(rice, potatoes, white breads, white flours, cakes, cookies,etc.) sodas, any

form of sugar, fat. Small amounts of fresh fruits may be taken but in small

portions only as this also raises blood sugar. Lots of vegetables (small

portions on sweet ones) and beans and nuts. I use stevia liquid and powder as

sweetener. This is a natural product from a plant that does not raise blood

sugar.

 

If it were me, i will wait until the sugar level is very well stabilized before

getting eye laser surgery. Diabetics heal for a long long time. This is only to

avoid complications.

 

Wishing you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year in spite of your deeply

missing your dear Mom.

 

I'll keep you and your brother in my prayers.

 

Melly

 

oleander soup ,

" ftfft " <micfo07 wrote:

>

> Hi All, this is Olivier,

> whose mother died of pancreatic cancer about 3 weeks ago.

>

> My remaining family, my brother,

> has a high degree of diabetes, with, scary,

> big eye problems including cataracts.

>

> QUESTION:

> What are some of the best things/supplements/whatever

> for diabetes?

>

> My brother is supposed to have lasers in his eyes,

> but only in 2 months, and things are getting worse.

> He has several spots in his eye and its getting worse.

> So time of the essence, once agian.

>

> Any help, recommendations, opinions would be extremely

> appreciated.

>

> P.S. For those wondering how im doing with grieving,

> the short answer is im hanging in there. Its on and off.

> Christmas and jan 31 countdown will be the worse i think.

> But everyone goes through this, right?

>

> cheers

> Olivier

>

[Guest guest]

Hi OlIvier.

 

i'm glad to see you back here and read you are hanging on, as is the best thing you can do right now. I know by now people have give you all the idvice and information you need for your brother.

 

So take care and know we are thinking of you daily.

Hugs Mary

 

 

 

-

ftfft

oleander soup

Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:23 PM

Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes, help...

Hi All, this is Olivier,whose mother died of pancreatic cancer about 3 weeks ago.My remaining family, my brother,has a high degree of diabetes, with, scary,big eye problems including cataracts.QUESTION:What are some of the best things/supplements/whateverfor diabetes?My brother is supposed to have lasers in his eyes,but only in 2 months, and things are getting worse.He has several spots in his eye and its getting worse.So time of the essence, once agian.Any help, recommendations, opinions would be extremelyappreciated.P.S. For those wondering how im doing with grieving,the short answer is im hanging in there. Its on and off.Christmas and jan 31 countdown will be the worse i think.But everyone goes through this, right?cheersOlivier

[Guest guest]

Hi Barbara,

thanks for thinking and asking about me : )

 

You know, when someone goes through something bad,

lot o people often think to themselves " man, i dont

know how he/she can endure this, i wouldnt be able to " .

 

But when its you, you dont have the choice and your brain

try and finds a way to cope with it all.

 

Its really hard, and sometimes a bit less.

Its my hope these messages remind people fighting for life

that theyre so lucky to be alive and hope it gives them

a boost of motivation to follow their strict protocol.

 

thanks again Barbara

 

Olivier

 

oleander soup , barbara elenniss <bntelenniss wrote:

>

> Hi Oliver,

>  

> I was just asking about you a few days ago.  It seemed a long time since we

heard from you.

>  

> It is good to hear from you.  The holidays are rough for lots of people

> I would suggest you remember the wonderful past holidays you spent with your

dear Mother and the great, happy times you had together.

>  

> Hugs,

> Barbara N. Germany

>

> --- On Tue, 12/15/09, ftfft <micfo07 wrote:

>

>

> ftfft <micfo07

> Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes, help...

> oleander soup

> Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 11:23 PM

>

>

> Hi All, this is Olivier,

> whose mother died of pancreatic cancer about 3 weeks ago.

>

> My remaining family, my brother,

> has a high degree of diabetes, with, scary,

> big eye problems including cataracts.

>

> QUESTION:

> What are some of the best things/supplements/whatever

> for diabetes?

>

> My brother is supposed to have lasers in his eyes,

> but only in 2 months, and things are getting worse.

> He has several spots in his eye and its getting worse.

> So time of the essence, once agian.

>

> Any help, recommendations, opinions would be extremely

> appreciated.

>

> P.S. For those wondering how im doing with grieving,

> the short answer is im hanging in there. Its on and off.

> Christmas and jan 31 countdown will be the worse i think.

> But everyone goes through this, right?

>

> cheers

> Olivier

>

>

>

> ---

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tony,

nice talking to you again.

Im hanging in there, which before, i never thought i would.

So its a tidy bit better, but you know...

 

Thanks for your tony diabetes protocol!

Exactly what i wanted : )

 

I have a bunch of questions about it tho...

 

-My brother is taking like 2-3 different types of pills

for his blood sugar etc..

 

If some of the supplements you mention lower sugar levels,

and some of his pills do as well, wouldnt that be too

much lowering of sugar level? How to deal with that?

(sounds just like when i asked about blood thinning properties

of supplements for my mom, and she was on blood thinner as well).

 

-Is there a safe dosage of supplements to take with the pills

hes already taking for sugar level? How to transition?

 

-You said:

" For diabetes, take at least 50 mg per day of Iodine (a combination of both

elemental and potassium iodine) and selenium must also be taken in order for

iodine to work properly. "

 

What is an elemental iodine and what is a potassium iodine?

 

I have:

Lugol's iodine (5% iodine solution from utopia natuals)

 

 

 

-Do you have the url of a GTF Chromium you recommend?

 

 

-FINALLY: My brother really isnt a pill person.

What would be the top 4(in order of importance) supplements, and dosages, you

would recommend my brother take?

(keep in mind he has diabetes, but also crystalin/eye problems

with cataracts worsening. Keep this in mind when make the choice

of supplements)

 

 

thanks so much Tony!!!

 

Having disvered this forum and used it for my mom,

will probably have been worth it if it help save my brother's

eyes and extend his life.

 

cheers

 

Olivier

 

oleander soup , "" wrote:

>

>

> Olivier

>

> I am glad to hear you are hanging in there. It will get better.

>

> For your brother, look here:

>

> /Diabetes.htm </Diabetes.htm>

> <http://www.tybil.com/Diabetes.htm>

>

> All the best,

>

> >

>

> oleander soup , " ftfft " <micfo07@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi All, this is Olivier,

> > whose mother died of pancreatic cancer about 3 weeks ago.

> >

> > My remaining family, my brother,

> > has a high degree of diabetes, with, scary,

> > big eye problems including cataracts.

> >

> > QUESTION:

> > What are some of the best things/supplements/whatever

> > for diabetes?

> >

> > My brother is supposed to have lasers in his eyes,

> > but only in 2 months, and things are getting worse.

> > He has several spots in his eye and its getting worse.

> > So time of the essence, once agian.

> >

> > Any help, recommendations, opinions would be extremely

> > appreciated.

> >

> > P.S. For those wondering how im doing with grieving,

> > the short answer is im hanging in there. Its on and off.

> > Christmas and jan 31 countdown will be the worse i think.

> > But everyone goes through this, right?

> >

> > cheers

> > Olivier

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Melli : )

 

Thanks for that great post of yours.

Full of good tips that will surely help my brother.

Im extremely thankful for you taking the time.

 

-Question: can you point to me to where you buy your

fenugreek powder?

 

 

-When you said:

" Diabetics heal for a long long time. This is only

to avoid complications. "

 

You mean it takes a long time to heal from diabetes, correct?

 

 

My bro has no choice but to do eye surgery,

hes getting more and more spots in his eyesight,

and crystallin problems only much older people sometimes get.

Im very worried he could go blind within 6 months.

 

Just wanted to clarify.

 

I will re read your post agsin

 

thanks!

 

Olivier

oleander soup , " tita_mel " <tita_mel wrote:

>

> Olivier,

>

> Nice to hear from you and learn you are on the road to getting better.

> Fenugreek powder has helped me a lot in bringing down my blood sugar. You can

add it into a tea, or just a glass of water. I take 1/8 tsp then measure my

blood sugar. It starts going down quickly like say, half an hour to two hours.

After around three or four hours, i check my blood sugar again, if it is not yet

at the normal range, then i take another 1/8 tsp. You can go to as much as 1/4

tsp depending on the blood sugar content of the blood. Since this powder is fast

acting, you must be very careful in using it specially if you also take diabetic

medicines. Monitor, monitor, monitor.

>

> When his sugar level is normal, then make him stay away from carbohydrates

(rice, potatoes, white breads, white flours, cakes, cookies,etc.) sodas, any

form of sugar, fat. Small amounts of fresh fruits may be taken but in small

portions only as this also raises blood sugar. Lots of vegetables (small

portions on sweet ones) and beans and nuts. I use stevia liquid and powder as

sweetener. This is a natural product from a plant that does not raise blood

sugar.

>

> If it were me, i will wait until the sugar level is very well stabilized

before getting eye laser surgery. Diabetics heal for a long long time. This is

only to avoid complications.

>

> Wishing you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year in spite of your deeply

missing your dear Mom.

>

> I'll keep you and your brother in my prayers.

>

> Melly

>

> oleander soup , " ftfft " <micfo07@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi All, this is Olivier,

> > whose mother died of pancreatic cancer about 3 weeks ago.

> >

> > My remaining family, my brother,

> > has a high degree of diabetes, with, scary,

> > big eye problems including cataracts.

> >

> > QUESTION:

> > What are some of the best things/supplements/whatever

> > for diabetes?

> >

> > My brother is supposed to have lasers in his eyes,

> > but only in 2 months, and things are getting worse.

> > He has several spots in his eye and its getting worse.

> > So time of the essence, once agian.

> >

> > Any help, recommendations, opinions would be extremely

> > appreciated.

> >

> > P.S. For those wondering how im doing with grieving,

> > the short answer is im hanging in there. Its on and off.

> > Christmas and jan 31 countdown will be the worse i think.

> > But everyone goes through this, right?

> >

> > cheers

> > Olivier

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Mary,

thanks.

 

It feels good to know some care.

It really does.

 

Olivier

 

oleander soup , " Maria " <mary1kon wrote:

>

> Hi OlIvier.

>

> i'm glad to see you back here and read you are hanging on, as is the best

thing you can do right now. I know by now people have give you all the idvice

and information you need for your brother.

>

> So take care and know we are thinking of you daily.

> Hugs Mary

>

>

> -

> ftfft

> oleander soup

> Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:23 PM

> Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes, help...

>

>

>

> Hi All, this is Olivier,

> whose mother died of pancreatic cancer about 3 weeks ago.

>

> My remaining family, my brother,

> has a high degree of diabetes, with, scary,

> big eye problems including cataracts.

>

> QUESTION:

> What are some of the best things/supplements/whatever

> for diabetes?

>

> My brother is supposed to have lasers in his eyes,

> but only in 2 months, and things are getting worse.

> He has several spots in his eye and its getting worse.

> So time of the essence, once agian.

>

> Any help, recommendations, opinions would be extremely

> appreciated.

>

> P.S. For those wondering how im doing with grieving,

> the short answer is im hanging in there. Its on and off.

> Christmas and jan 31 countdown will be the worse i think.

> But everyone goes through this, right?

>

> cheers

> Olivier

>

[Guest guest]

Hi back at you Olivier.

 

I know the feeling you talking about as i have been where you are now Olivier. We all care for each and every member in this forum and i for one, a'm very thankfull that i belong here.

 

Take care Olivier especially your brother.

 

Hugs Mary.

 

 

 

 

-

ftfft

oleander soup

Thursday, December 17, 2009 3:26 PM

Re: Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes, help...

Hi Mary,thanks.It feels good to know some care.It really does.Olivieroleander soup , "Maria" <mary1kon wrote:>> Hi OlIvier.> > i'm glad to see you back here and read you are hanging on, as is the best thing you can do right now. I know by now people have give you all the idvice and information you need for your brother.> > So take care and know we are thinking of you daily.> Hugs Mary> > > - > ftfft > oleander soup > Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:23 PM> Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes, help...> > > > Hi All, this is Olivier,> whose mother died of pancreatic cancer about 3 weeks ago.> > My remaining family, my brother,> has a high degree of diabetes, with, scary,> big eye problems including cataracts.> > QUESTION:> What are some of the best things/supplements/whatever> for diabetes?> > My brother is supposed to have lasers in his eyes,> but only in 2 months, and things are getting worse.> He has several spots in his eye and its getting worse.> So time of the essence, once agian.> > Any help, recommendations, opinions would be extremely> appreciated.> > P.S. For those wondering how im doing with grieving,> the short answer is im hanging in there. Its on and off.> Christmas and jan 31 countdown will be the worse i think.> But everyone goes through this, right?> > cheers> Olivier>

[Guest guest]

Hi Oliver,It is so good to hear from you. We DO care about you. Never think that there is not someone who cares. We are all blessed to be her with a loving bunch of people and especially and Tony, where else could one find such wonderful people. I think of you often and pray for you, and ask God to give to you the peace of God this holiday season.Hugs,Barbara N Germany--- On Wed, 12/16/09, Maria <mary1kon wrote:Maria <mary1konRe: Re: Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes, help...oleander soup Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 11:50 PM

 

Hi back at you Olivier.

 

I know the feeling you talking about as i have been where you are now Olivier. We all care for each and every member in this forum and i for one, a'm very thankfull that i belong here.

 

Take care Olivier especially your brother.

 

Hugs Mary.

 

 

 

 

-

ftfft

oleander soup

Thursday, December 17, 2009 3:26 PM

Re: Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes, help...

Hi Mary,thanks.It feels good to know some care.It really does.Olivieroleander soup, "Maria" <mary1kon@.. .> wrote:>> Hi OlIvier.> > i'm glad to see you back here and read you are hanging on, as is the best thing you can do right now. I know by now people have give you all the idvice and information you need for your brother.> > So take care and know we are thinking of you daily.> Hugs Mary> > > - > ftfft > oleander soup > Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:23 PM> Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes, help...> > > > Hi All, this is Olivier,> whose mother died of pancreatic cancer about 3 weeks ago.> > My remaining family, my brother,> has a high degree of diabetes, with, scary,> big eye problems including cataracts.> > QUESTION:> What are some of the best things/supplements/ whatever> for diabetes?> > My brother is supposed to have lasers in his eyes,> but only in 2 months, and things are getting worse.> He has several spots in his eye and its getting worse.> So time of the essence, once agian.> > Any help, recommendations, opinions would be extremely> appreciated.> > P.S. For those wondering how im doing with grieving,> the short answer is im hanging in there. Its on and off.> Christmas and jan 31 countdown will be the worse i think.> But everyone goes through this, right?> > cheers> Olivier>

[Guest guest]

HI,

Regarding your brother's diabetes problem, have him try asparagus juice ( 4 spears two times a day to start). My wife's diabetes (type 2) is under control and has gotten off her diabetes meds for 3 monts now. Daily testing and 3 independent lab tests confirm the numbers--she is under 110 most days. Hope jucing works for your brother.--- On Thu, 12/17/09, barbara elenniss <bntelenniss wrote:

barbara elenniss <bntelennissRe: Re: Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes, help...oleander soup Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 1:28 AM

 

 

 

 

Hi Oliver,It is so good to hear from you. We DO care about you. Never think that there is not someone who cares. We are all blessed to be her with a loving bunch of people and especially and Tony, where else could one find such wonderful people. I think of you often and pray for you, and ask God to give to you the peace of God this holiday season.Hugs,Barbara N Germany--- On Wed, 12/16/09, Maria <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote:

Maria <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au>Re: Re: Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes, help...oleander soupWednesday, December 16, 2009, 11:50 PM

 

Hi back at you Olivier.

 

I know the feeling you talking about as i have been where you are now Olivier. We all care for each and every member in this forum and i for one, a'm very thankfull that i belong here.

 

Take care Olivier especially your brother.

 

Hugs Mary.

 

 

 

 

-

ftfft

oleander soup

Thursday, December 17, 2009 3:26 PM

Re: Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes, help...

Hi Mary,thanks.It feels good to know some care.It really does.Olivieroleander soup, "Maria" <mary1kon@.. .> wrote:>> Hi OlIvier.> > i'm glad to see you back here and read you are hanging on, as is the best thing you can do right now. I know by now people have give you all the idvice and information you need for your brother.> > So take care and know we are thinking of you daily.> Hugs Mary> > > - > ftfft > oleander soup > Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:23 PM> Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes, help...> > > > Hi All, this is Olivier,> whose mother died of pancreatic cancer about 3 weeks ago.> > My remaining family, my

brother,> has a high degree of diabetes, with, scary,> big eye problems including cataracts.> > QUESTION:> What are some of the best things/supplements/ whatever> for diabetes?> > My brother is supposed to have lasers in his eyes,> but only in 2 months, and things are getting worse.> He has several spots in his eye and its getting worse.> So time of the essence, once agian.> > Any help, recommendations, opinions would be extremely> appreciated.> > P.S. For those wondering how im doing with grieving,> the short answer is im hanging in there. Its on and off.> Christmas and jan 31 countdown will be the worse i think.> But everyone goes through this, right?> > cheers> Olivier>

[Guest guest]

Oliver

 

Glad to hear that you are doing well. You are in my thoughts and prayers this holiday season.

bobbi henderson

 

 

-

barbara elenniss

oleander soup

Thursday, December 17, 2009 2:28 AM

Re: Re: Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes, help...

 

 

 

 

Hi Oliver,It is so good to hear from you. We DO care about you. Never think that there is not someone who cares. We are all blessed to be her with a loving bunch of people and especially and Tony, where else could one find such wonderful people. I think of you often and pray for you, and ask God to give to you the peace of God this holiday season.Hugs,Barbara N Germany--- On Wed, 12/16/09, Maria <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote:

Maria <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au>Re: Re: Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes, help...oleander soup Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 11:50 PM

 

Hi back at you Olivier.

 

I know the feeling you talking about as i have been where you are now Olivier. We all care for each and every member in this forum and i for one, a'm very thankfull that i belong here.

 

Take care Olivier especially your brother.

 

Hugs Mary.

 

 

 

 

-

ftfft

oleander soup

Thursday, December 17, 2009 3:26 PM

Re: Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes, help...

Hi Mary,thanks.It feels good to know some care.It really does.Olivieroleander soup, "Maria" <mary1kon@.. .> wrote:>> Hi OlIvier.> > i'm glad to see you back here and read you are hanging on, as is the best thing you can do right now. I know by now people have give you all the idvice and information you need for your brother.> > So take care and know we are thinking of you daily.> Hugs Mary> > > - > ftfft > oleander soup > Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:23 PM> Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes, help...> > > > Hi All, this is Olivier,> whose mother died of pancreatic cancer about 3 weeks ago.> > My remaining family, my brother,> has a high degree of diabetes, with, scary,> big eye problems including cataracts.> > QUESTION:> What are some of the best things/supplements/ whatever> for diabetes?> > My brother is supposed to have lasers in his eyes,> but only in 2 months, and things are getting worse.> He has several spots in his eye and its getting worse.> So time of the essence, once agian.> > Any help, recommendations, opinions would be extremely> appreciated.> > P.S. For those wondering how im doing with grieving,> the short answer is im hanging in there. Its on and off.> Christmas and jan 31 countdown will be the worse i think.> But everyone goes through this, right?> > cheers> Olivier>

 

 

 

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Hi Barbara,Speaking of wonderful people, today is Tony's birthday. shhhhh..... Don't tell him I said anything.Hugs,oleander soup , barbara elenniss <bntelenniss wrote:>> Hi Oliver,> > It is so good to hear from you. We DO care about you. Never think that there is not someone who cares. We are all blessed to be her with a loving bunch of people and especially and Tony, where else could one find such wonderful people. I think of you often and pray for you, and ask God to give to you the peace of God this holiday season.> > Hugs,> Barbara N Germany

[Guest guest]

AWWWWWWWWWWW Happy Birthday TONY!!! Must be 39. I am every year:-)

 

I hope you have a great day. You and Lu go out and enjoy yourself's and forget us nuts for a while. We will be here when you get back.

 

Hugs,

Barbara N Germany--- On Thu, 12/17/09, M <luellamay129 wrote:

M <luellamay129 Re: Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes, help...oleander soup Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 11:47 AM

 

Hi Barbara,Speaking of wonderful people, today is Tony's birthday. shhhhh..... Don't tell him I said anything.Hugs,oleander soup , barbara elenniss <bntelenniss wrote:>> Hi Oliver,> > It is so good to hear from you. We DO care about you. Never think that there is not someone who cares. We are all blessed to be her with a loving bunch of people and especially and Tony, where else could one find such wonderful people. I think of you often and pray for you, and ask God to give to you the peace of God this holiday season.> > Hugs,> Barbara N Germany

[Guest guest]

HEY BIG FELLA, YES YOU TONY !!!!!!!

 

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU

Happy birthday to you

 

Happy birthday Happy birthday to youuuuuuuuuuuuuu !!!!!!!!!!!

 

Have a happy one

Hugs Mary

 

 

-

M

oleander soup

Friday, December 18, 2009 3:47 AM

Re: Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes, help...

Hi Barbara,Speaking of wonderful people, today is Tony's birthday. shhhhh..... Don't tell him I said anything.Hugs,oleander soup , barbara elenniss <bntelenniss wrote:>> Hi Oliver,> > It is so good to hear from you. We DO care about you. Never think that there is not someone who cares. We are all blessed to be her with a loving bunch of people and especially and Tony, where else could one find such wonderful people. I think of you often and pray for you, and ask God to give to you the peace of God this holiday season.> > Hugs,> Barbara N Germany

[Guest guest]

guys is too much! lol

 

Nah seriously thanks a lot.

I also wish every single one of you to find peace

and joy in your heart, and just have some plain old fun,

no matter whats your situation.

 

Life is made to enjoy, so lets enjoy, shall we : )

 

thanks again

 

Oli

 

oleander soup , " bobbi henderson " <bobbi10 wrote:

>

> Oliver

>

> Glad to hear that you are doing well. You are in my thoughts and prayers this

holiday season.

> bobbi henderson

>

> -

> barbara elenniss

> oleander soup

> Thursday, December 17, 2009 2:28 AM

> Re: Re: Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes,

help...

>

>

> nah seriously thanks

> Hi Oliver,

>

> It is so good to hear from you. We DO care about you. Never think

that there is not someone who cares. We are all blessed to be her with a loving

bunch of people and especially and Tony, where else could one find such

wonderful people. I think of you often and pray for you, and ask God to give to

you the peace of God this holiday season.

>

> Hugs,

> Barbara N Germany

>

>

>

> --- On Wed, 12/16/09, Maria <mary1kon wrote:

>

>

> Maria <mary1kon

> Re: Re: Mom died, NOW brother extreme

diabetes, help...

> oleander soup

> Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 11:50 PM

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi back at you Olivier.

>

> I know the feeling you talking about as i have been where you are

now Olivier. We all care for each and every member in this forum and i for

one, a'm very thankfull that i belong here.

>

> Take care Olivier especially your brother.

>

> Hugs Mary.

>

>

>

> -

> ftfft

> oleander soup

> Thursday, December 17, 2009 3:26 PM

> Re: Mom died, NOW brother extreme

diabetes, help...

>

>

>

> Hi Mary,

> thanks.

>

> It feels good to know some care.

> It really does.

>

> Olivier

>

> oleander soup, " Maria " <mary1kon@ .>

wrote:

> >

> > Hi OlIvier.

> >

> > i'm glad to see you back here and read you are hanging on, as is

the best thing you can do right now. I know by now people have give you all the

idvice and information you need for your brother.

> >

> > So take care and know we are thinking of you daily.

> > Hugs Mary

> >

> >

> > -

> > ftfft

> > oleander soup

> > Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:23 PM

> > Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes,

help...

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi All, this is Olivier,

> > whose mother died of pancreatic cancer about 3 weeks ago.

> >

> > My remaining family, my brother,

> > has a high degree of diabetes, with, scary,

> > big eye problems including cataracts.

> >

> > QUESTION:

> > What are some of the best things/supplements/ whatever

> > for diabetes?

> >

> > My brother is supposed to have lasers in his eyes,

> > but only in 2 months, and things are getting worse.

> > He has several spots in his eye and its getting worse.

> > So time of the essence, once agian.

> >

> > Any help, recommendations, opinions would be extremely

> > appreciated.

> >

> > P.S. For those wondering how im doing with grieving,

> > the short answer is im hanging in there. Its on and off.

> > Christmas and jan 31 countdown will be the worse i think.

> > But everyone goes through this, right?

> >

> > cheers

> > Olivier

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Thomas,

very interesting...

 

-Starting with 4 spears, then increasing to how much maximum?

 

-When you start this, does it lower your sugar levels?

And if it does, should he reduce his meds when starting this?

How to do you balance both the meds and this juice together>

 

THanks!

 

Oli

 

oleander soup , thomas cueva <tlcueva wrote:

>

> HI,

>    Regarding your brother's diabetes problem, have him try asparagus juice (

4 spears two times a day to start). My wife's diabetes (type 2) is under control

and has gotten off her diabetes meds for 3 monts now. Daily testing and 3

independent lab tests confirm the numbers--she is under 110 most days. Hope

jucing works for your brother.

>

> --- On Thu, 12/17/09, barbara elenniss <bntelenniss wrote:

>

>

> barbara elenniss <bntelenniss

> Re: Re: Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes,

help...

> oleander soup

> Thursday, December 17, 2009, 1:28 AM

>

>

>  

>

Hi Oliver,

>

> It is so good to hear from you.  We DO care about you.  Never think that

there is not someone who cares. We are all blessed to be her with a loving bunch

of people and especially and Tony,  where else could one find such

wonderful people. I think of you often and pray for you, and ask God to give to

you the peace of God this holiday season.

>

> Hugs,

> Barbara N Germany

>

>

>

> --- On Wed, 12/16/09, Maria <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote:

>

>

> Maria <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au>

> Re: Re: Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes,

help...

> oleander soup

> Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 11:50 PM

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi back at you Olivier.

>  

> I know the feeling you talking about as i have been where you are now

Olivier.  We all care for each and every member in this forum  and i for one,

 a'm very  thankfull that i belong here.

>  

> Take care Olivier especially your  brother.

>  

> Hugs Mary.

>  

>  

>  

>

> -

> ftfft

> oleander soup

> Thursday, December 17, 2009 3:26 PM

> Re: Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes, help...

>

>  

>

> Hi Mary,

> thanks.

>

> It feels good to know some care.

> It really does.

>

> Olivier

>

> oleander soup, " Maria " <mary1kon@ .> wrote:

> >

> > Hi OlIvier.

> >

> > i'm glad to see you back here and read you are hanging on, as is the best

thing you can do right now. I know by now people have give you all the idvice

and information you need for your brother.

> >

> > So take care and know we are thinking of you daily.

> > Hugs Mary

> >

> >

> > -

> > ftfft

> > oleander soup

> > Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:23 PM

> > Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes, help...

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi All, this is Olivier,

> > whose mother died of pancreatic cancer about 3 weeks ago.

> >

> > My remaining family, my brother,

> > has a high degree of diabetes, with, scary,

> > big eye problems including cataracts.

> >

> > QUESTION:

> > What are some of the best things/supplements/ whatever

> > for diabetes?

> >

> > My brother is supposed to have lasers in his eyes,

> > but only in 2 months, and things are getting worse.

> > He has several spots in his eye and its getting worse.

> > So time of the essence, once agian.

> >

> > Any help, recommendations, opinions would be extremely

> > appreciated.

> >

> > P.S. For those wondering how im doing with grieving,

> > the short answer is im hanging in there. Its on and off.

> > Christmas and jan 31 countdown will be the worse i think.

> > But everyone goes through this, right?

> >

> > cheers

> > Olivier

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Oli, I don't think you can OD on asparagus but like anything else you can have so much of it that you don't want to see another asparagus spear again.It's a matter of how much you can stand it. My wife and I juice asparagus for it's cancer fighting properties, the other stuff is incidental. My wife does 4 spears (about 2oz) three times (yes she added to it) a day while I do only 4 spears (2 oz) once a day ( my BP went from 158 to just under 140--no exercise--no meds--could use another drop to under 120,we'll see). The health benefits might be derived in part from juicing or in part from change in diet or a combination of both. Dieting alone did not produce these health benefits so I would tend to think that asparagus has something to do with it. Always consult you Medical

doctor for any health issues (my doctor doesn't bug me as much nowadays!) that you might have. Help your doctor helpYOU. Tom C.--- On Sun, 12/20/09, ftfft <micfo07 wrote:ftfft <micfo07 Re: Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes, help...oleander soup Date: Sunday, December 20, 2009, 1:03 AM

 

 

Hi Thomas,

very interesting. ..

 

-Starting with 4 spears, then increasing to how much maximum?

 

-When you start this, does it lower your sugar levels?

And if it does, should he reduce his meds when starting this?

How to do you balance both the meds and this juice together>

 

THanks!

 

Oli

 

oleander soup, thomas cueva <tlcueva > wrote:

>

> HI,

>   Regarding your brother's diabetes problem, have him try asparagus juice ( 4 spears two times a day to start). My wife's diabetes (type 2) is under control and has gotten off her diabetes meds for 3 monts now. Daily testing and 3 independent lab tests confirm the numbers--she is under 110 most days. Hope jucing works for your brother.

>

> --- On Thu, 12/17/09, barbara elenniss <bntelenniss@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> barbara elenniss <bntelenniss@ ...>

> Re: Re: Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes, help...

> oleander soup

> Thursday, December 17, 2009, 1:28 AM

>

>

> Â

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi Oliver,

>

> It is so good to hear from you. We DO care about you. Never think that there is not someone who cares. We are all blessed to be her with a loving bunch of people and especially and Tony, where else could one find such wonderful people. I think of you often and pray for you, and ask God to give to you the peace of God this holiday season.

>

> Hugs,

> Barbara N Germany

>

>

>

> --- On Wed, 12/16/09, Maria <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote:

>

>

> Maria <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au>

> Re: Re: Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes, help...

> oleander soup

> Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 11:50 PM

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi back at you Olivier.

> Â

> I know the feeling you talking about as i have been where you are now Olivier. We all care for each and every member in this forum and i for one,  a'm very  thankfull that i belong here.

> Â

> Take care Olivier especially your  brother.

> Â

> Hugs Mary.

> Â

> Â

> Â

>

> -

> ftfft

> oleander soup

> Thursday, December 17, 2009 3:26 PM

> Re: Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes, help...

>

> Â

>

> Hi Mary,

> thanks.

>

> It feels good to know some care.

> It really does.

>

> Olivier

>

> oleander soup, "Maria" <mary1kon@ .> wrote:

> >

> > Hi OlIvier.

> >

> > i'm glad to see you back here and read you are hanging on, as is the best thing you can do right now. I know by now people have give you all the idvice and information you need for your brother.

> >

> > So take care and know we are thinking of you daily.

> > Hugs Mary

> >

> >

> > -

> > ftfft

> > oleander soup

> > Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:23 PM

> > Mom died, NOW brother extreme diabetes, help...

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi All, this is Olivier,

> > whose mother died of pancreatic cancer about 3 weeks ago.

> >

> > My remaining family, my brother,

> > has a high degree of diabetes, with, scary,

> > big eye problems including cataracts.

> >

> > QUESTION:

> > What are some of the best things/supplements/ whatever

> > for diabetes?

> >

> > My brother is supposed to have lasers in his eyes,

> > but only in 2 months, and things are getting worse.

> > He has several spots in his eye and its getting worse.

> > So time of the essence, once agian.

> >

> > Any help, recommendations, opinions would be extremely

> > appreciated.

> >

> > P.S. For those wondering how im doing with grieving,

> > the short answer is im hanging in there. Its on and off.

> > Christmas and jan 31 countdown will be the worse i think.

> > But everyone goes through this, right?

> >

> > cheers

> > Olivier

> >

>