Guest guest Report post Posted April 27, 2009 Sauer Kraut? - " RoseAnne Spradlin " <ra6151 <Chinese Medicine > Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:10 PM swine flu > Can any of you herbal experts recommend a formula to have on hand for > swine flu? Just in case.... > > RoseAnne, NYC > > > > --- > > Subscribe to the free online journal for TCM at Times > http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > Help build the world's largest online encyclopedia for Chinese medicine > and acupuncture, click, http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/wiki/CMTpedia > > > and adjust > accordingly. > > Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the group > requires prior permission from the author. > > Please consider the environment and only print this message if absolutely > necessary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 27, 2009 Why Ben Tu Tang (running piglet decoction), of course! (Just kidding!) --- On Sun, 4/26/09, RoseAnne Spradlin <ra6151 wrote: RoseAnne Spradlin <ra6151 swine flu Chinese Medicine Sunday, April 26, 2009, 6:10 PM Can any of you herbal experts recommend a formula to have on hand for swine flu? Just in case.... RoseAnne, NYC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 27, 2009 See: http://www.acupuncturetoday.com/mpacms/at/article.php?id=30357 Chinese Medicine , RoseAnne Spradlin <ra6151 wrote: > > Can any of you herbal experts recommend a formula to have on hand for > swine flu? Just in case.... > > RoseAnne, NYC > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 27, 2009 Thanks, the article is helpful. I really don't know why people are making jokes about swine flu. -RA On Apr 27, 2009, at 9:44 AM, starguard_1 wrote: > See: > > http://www.acupuncturetoday.com/mpacms/at/article.php?id=30357 > > > Chinese Medicine , RoseAnne > Spradlin <ra6151 wrote: >> >> Can any of you herbal experts recommend a formula to have on hand for >> swine flu? Just in case.... >> >> RoseAnne, NYC >> > > > > > --- > > Subscribe to the free online journal for TCM at > Times http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com > > Help build the world's largest online encyclopedia for Chinese > medicine and acupuncture, click, http:// > www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/wiki/CMTpedia > > http:// > and adjust > accordingly. > > Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside > the group requires prior permission from the author. > > Please consider the environment and only print this message if > absolutely necessary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 27, 2009 Yes... Not even one case of SARS from Korea... why not? .... Kim chee (spicy sauerkraut) (fermented peppers, garlic, onions, cabbage) Yum. On 4/26/09, Mercurius Trismegistus <magisterium_magnum wrote: > Sauer Kraut? > > > > > - > " RoseAnne Spradlin " <ra6151 > <Chinese Medicine > > Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:10 PM > swine flu > > >> Can any of you herbal experts recommend a formula to have on hand for >> swine flu? Just in case.... >> >> RoseAnne, NYC >> >> >> >> --- >> >> Subscribe to the free online journal for TCM at Times >> http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com >> >> Help build the world's largest online encyclopedia for Chinese medicine >> and acupuncture, click, http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/wiki/CMTpedia >> >> >> and adjust >> >> accordingly. >> >> Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the group >> >> requires prior permission from the author. >> >> Please consider the environment and only print this message if absolutely >> necessary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 27, 2009 Very funny, Yehudah! I was just thinking it would be as good idea to have oscillicoccinum on hand. It's homeopathic, not TCM, and is to be taken at the first signs of flu, rather than as a preventive. On the box, it says it's for " fever, chills, body aches and pains " . It's made by Boiron, and is available in health food stores and even in supermarkets these days. Any of our homeopaths have more knowledge about this product and its potential effectiveness for swine flu? Andrea Beth Traditional Oriental Medicine Happy Hours in the CALM Center 635 S. 10th St. Cottonwood, AZ 86326 (928) 274-1373 --- On Mon, 4/27/09, wrote: Re: swine flu Chinese Medicine Monday, April 27, 2009, 1:49 AM Why Ben Tu Tang (running piglet decoction), of course! (Just kidding!) --- On Sun, 4/26/09, RoseAnne Spradlin <ra6151 wrote: RoseAnne Spradlin <ra6151 swine flu Chinese Medicine Sunday, April 26, 2009, 6:10 PM Can any of you herbal experts recommend a formula to have on hand for swine flu? Just in case.... RoseAnne, NYC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 27, 2009 PS. And now's the time to take advantage of that 4 ounce Echinacea Special I've been talking about. Call the office today, while supplies last. Yours in Knowledge, Health and Freedom, Doc Ian wrote: Dear All, Have no idea whether or not this is just another Anthrax, SARS, Bird Flu hoax or not. Could also be a NWO set-up for worse to come. Rather than get all worried and bent out of shape about it, just make sure you've got plenty of Echinacea and Garlic on hand. Also, I've been getting quite a few reports from many different sources lately that proclaim Vitamin D is essential to handling Flus of all types as well. Don't forget your Vitamin C as well. Soooooooo, keep your Herbal Medicine Kit well stocked. Keep plenty of vitamins on hand, and never forget that Russian Penicillin (Garlic ;o). Yours in Knowledge, Health, and Freedom, Doc Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 27, 2009 Dear K, For a preventative amount, I'd recommend 1 or 2 dropperfuls a day, one week on, one week off. If you notice a flu coming on, or flu like symptoms, try 2 to 3 dropperfuls, three times a day until the symptoms subside depending on your body weight. This is where the 150 Rule comes into play. The 150 Rule can be found in the Herbal Remedies Files and gives amount to be taken depending on body weight. I'd also recommend taking extra Garlic, especially if taken in Total Tonic Form. TT and Ech are the dynamic duo when it comes to colds and flus. It just doesn't get any better. Yours in Knowledge, Health, and Freedom, Doc K wrote: Dear Ian, I hope you can help me, I read your article with great relief. Years ago, I buried 5l members of my family due to the Swine flu and I am very nervous about it. Three members contracted the flu without the vacine; the others had the vacine and passed because of hidden medical conditions. What dosage of the enchinea would you recommend for this? Blessings, K --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Ian <docshillington wrote: Ian <docshillington Re: {Herbal Remedies} Swine Flu herbal remedies Monday, April 27, 2009, 10:49 AM PS. And now's the time to take advantage of that 4 ounce Echinacea Special I've been talking about. Call the office today, while supplies last. Yours in Knowledge, Health and Freedom, Doc Ian wrote: Dear All, Have no idea whether or not this is just another Anthrax, SARS, Bird Flu hoax or not. Could also be a NWO set-up for worse to come. Rather than get all worried and bent out of shape about it, just make sure you've got plenty of Echinacea and Garlic on hand. Also, I've been getting quite a few reports from many different sources lately that proclaim Vitamin D is essential to handling Flus of all types as well. Don't forget your Vitamin C as well. Soooooooo, keep your Herbal Medicine Kit well stocked. Keep plenty of vitamins on hand, and never forget that Russian Penicillin (Garlic ;o). Yours in Knowledge, Health, and Freedom, Doc Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 27, 2009 Thanks for the advice Doc. Need a lil info on garlic. I am not in a position to grow my own(live in a condo) Do you have any idea how long garlic bulbs will last that I buy at the co-op(organic) and what the best means of storage is for already purchased garlic bulbs? thank you so much CJ --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Ian <docshillington wrote: Ian <docshillingtonRe: {Herbal Remedies} Swine Fluherbal remedies Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 9:49 AM PS. And now's the time to take advantage of that 4 ounce Echinacea Special I've been talking about.Call the office today, while supplies last.Yours in Knowledge, Health and Freedom,DocIan wrote: Dear All,Have no idea whether or not this is just another Anthrax, SARS, Bird Flu hoax or not. Could also be a NWO set-up for worse to come.Rather than get all worried and bent out of shape about it, just make sure you've got plenty of Echinacea and Garlic on hand. Also, I've been getting quite a few reports from many different sources lately that proclaim Vitamin D is essential to handling Flus of all types as well. Don't forget your Vitamin C as well. Soooooooo, keep your Herbal Medicine Kit well stocked. Keep plenty of vitamins on hand, and never forget that Russian Penicillin (Garlic ;o).Yours in Knowledge, Health, and Freedom,Doc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 27, 2009 You're welcome Hon A bulb of Garlic that still has its leaves (you can actually braid these together = where the term a braid of Garlic comes from) will last over a year if stored in a cool dark place. A bulb left out on a counter can last up to several months, but kept in a warm room may last only 3 months. A bulb that has been separated into its respective cloves will most likely last for only about a month, two at the most and only a couple of weeks if the area is warm and moist. The best way I know of preserving Garlic is to chop it up finely, and then dehydrate it. It'll last for just about forever if you do it this way. The only way that's better than that is to tincture it as we do in Total Tonic. TT is the ultimate ;o) Hugs, Doc CJ Fox wrote: Thanks for the advice Doc. Need a lil info on garlic. I am not in a position to grow my own(live in a condo) Do you have any idea how long garlic bulbs will last that I buy at the co-op(organic) and what the best means of storage is for already purchased garlic bulbs? thank you so much CJ --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Ian <docshillington (AT) cabletvonline (DOT) net> wrote: Ian <docshillington (AT) cabletvonline (DOT) net> Re: {Herbal Remedies} Swine Flu herbal remedies Monday, April 27, 2009, 9:49 AM PS. And now's the time to take advantage of that 4 ounce Echinacea Special I've been talking about. Call the office today, while supplies last. Yours in Knowledge, Health and Freedom, Doc Ian wrote: Dear All, Have no idea whether or not this is just another Anthrax, SARS, Bird Flu hoax or not. Could also be a NWO set-up for worse to come. Rather than get all worried and bent out of shape about it, just make sure you've got plenty of Echinacea and Garlic on hand. Also, I've been getting quite a few reports from many different sources lately that proclaim Vitamin D is essential to handling Flus of all types as well. Don't forget your Vitamin C as well. Soooooooo, keep your Herbal Medicine Kit well stocked. Keep plenty of vitamins on hand, and never forget that Russian Penicillin (Garlic ;o). Yours in Knowledge, Health, and Freedom, Doc Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 27, 2009 PS. Just to reiterate what I've said before. I've been retired for the last few years, and only give advice of a general nature. This advice is given only on this and other public forums. I still teach students, but no longer " practice " as that term is used. Yours in Knowledge, Health, and Freedom, Doc herbal remedies , Ian <docshillington wrote: > > Dear K, > For a preventative amount, I'd recommend 1 or 2 dropperfuls a day, one > week on, one week off. > If you notice a flu coming on, or flu like symptoms, try 2 to 3 > dropperfuls, three times a day until the symptoms subside depending on > your body weight. This is where the 150 Rule comes into play. The 150 > Rule can be found in the Herbal Remedies Files and gives amount to be > taken depending on body weight. > I'd also recommend taking extra Garlic, especially if taken in Total > Tonic Form. TT and Ech are the dynamic duo when it comes to colds and flus. > It just doesn't get any better. > Yours in Knowledge, Health, and Freedom, > Doc > > K wrote: > > Dear Ian, > > > > I hope you can help me, I read your article with great relief. Years > > ago, I buried 5l members of my family due to the Swine flu and I am > > very nervous about it. Three members contracted the flu without the > > vacine; the others had the vacine and passed because of hidden medical > > conditions. What dosage of the enchinea would you recommend for this? > > > > Blessings, > > > > K > > > > --- On *Mon, 4/27/09, Ian /<docshillington/* wrote: > > > > > > Ian <docshillington > > Re: {Herbal Remedies} Swine Flu > > herbal remedies > > Monday, April 27, 2009, 10:49 AM > > > > > > > > PS. And now's the time to take advantage of that 4 ounce > > Echinacea Special I've been talking about. > > Call the office today, while supplies last. > > Yours in Knowledge, Health and Freedom, > > Doc > > > > Ian wrote: > >> Dear All, > >> > >> Have no idea whether or not this is just another Anthrax, SARS, > >> Bird Flu hoax or not. Could also be a NWO set-up for worse to come. > >> > >> Rather than get all worried and bent out of shape about it, just > >> make sure you've got plenty of Echinacea and Garlic on hand. > >> Also, I've been getting quite a few reports from many different > >> sources lately that proclaim Vitamin D is essential to handling > >> Flus of all types as well. Don't forget your Vitamin C as well. > >> > >> Soooooooo, keep your Herbal Medicine Kit well stocked. Keep > >> plenty of vitamins on hand, and never forget that Russian > >> Penicillin (Garlic ;o). > >> > >> Yours in Knowledge, Health, and Freedom, > >> > >> Doc > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 27, 2009 The concept of fermented foods as helping both digestion and also immunity is important and a part of the Asian cultural traditions but our society has problems adapting to. The terrain might be the answer to many ills. Michael W. Bowser, LAc Chinese Medicine johnkokko Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:39:32 -0700 Re: swine flu Yes... Not even one case of SARS from Korea... why not? .... Kim chee (spicy sauerkraut) (fermented peppers, garlic, onions, cabbage) Yum. On 4/26/09, Mercurius Trismegistus <magisterium_magnum wrote: > Sauer Kraut? > > > > > - > " RoseAnne Spradlin " <ra6151 > <Chinese Medicine > > Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:10 PM > swine flu > > >> Can any of you herbal experts recommend a formula to have on hand for >> swine flu? Just in case.... >> >> RoseAnne, NYC >> >> >> >> --- >> >> Subscribe to the free online journal for TCM at Times >> http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com >> >> Help build the world's largest online encyclopedia for Chinese medicine >> and acupuncture, click, http://www.chinesemedicinetimes.com/wiki/CMTpedia >> >> >> and adjust >> >> accordingly. >> >> Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the group >> >> requires prior permission from the author. >> >> Please consider the environment and only print this message if absolutely >> necessary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 27, 2009 Hi Y'all Regarding protection...this could be a challenge as what I find disturbing about this newest strain of swine flu is that we should not rule out the very strong possibility it appears to be a newly genetically engineered type of flu which would suggest there is little immunity as yet developed in the general global population. Perhaps it would help for us to perhaps just routinely, daily remind all our patients, family, friends, etc. to begin boosting their immunity in everyway possible with vitamins, minerals, herbs and homeopathics, probiotics, frequent handwashing, etc. in addition to the suddenly fashionable facemasks as well as posting information in our clinics, offices, etc. BTW, Homeopathics are known to stop viral action. On another note (re: genetically engineered viruses) - I happened to be in South Florida this past weekend (attending a HEEL seminar - thanks HEEL!) - my MD sister in law advised me she has seen 5 cases of mad cow disease in the past six months at the Florida hospital where she works. Her opinion is the hospitals are keeping too quiet along with the media. (I recall in the 1980's the US attempted to use the swine flu against the Cuban people in an attempt to destablize that country's government.) Seems we can never do enough re: preventive education - including keeping ourselves very well informed! th --- On Mon, 4/27/09, < wrote: < Re: swine flu Chinese Medicine Monday, April 27, 2009, 10:43 AM Very funny, Yehudah! I was just thinking it would be as good idea to have oscillicoccinum on hand. It's homeopathic, not TCM, and is to be taken at the first signs of flu, rather than as a preventive. On the box, it says it's for " fever, chills, body aches and pains " . It's made by Boiron, and is available in health food stores and even in supermarkets these days. Any of our homeopaths have more knowledge about this product and its potential effectiveness for swine flu? Andrea Beth Traditional Oriental Medicine Happy Hours in the CALM Center 635 S. 10th St. Cottonwood, AZ 86326 (928) 274-1373 --- On Mon, 4/27/09, > wrote: > Re: swine flu Monday, April 27, 2009, 1:49 AM Why Ben Tu Tang (running piglet decoction), of course! (Just kidding!) www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. net www.traditionaljewi shmedicine. blogspot. com --- On Sun, 4/26/09, RoseAnne Spradlin <ra6151 wrote: RoseAnne Spradlin <ra6151 swine flu Sunday, April 26, 2009, 6:10 PM Can any of you herbal experts recommend a formula to have on hand for swine flu? Just in case.... RoseAnne, NYC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 27, 2009 This product is the genus epidemicus remedy for the flu a couple of years back. I would direct you to the NCH National Center of Homeopathy for the best information. You don't have to join to have access to many of the good articles.They have a standby list of homeopaths that would be ready to work on figuring out through repretorization of the genus epidemicus for any pandemic that could arise or for that matter any biological warfare or act of terrorism.They also have a great section of the use of homeopathy in the treatment of the worlds great epidemics and how hands down every time the homeopathy prooves itself more effective with significantly less mortality EVEN IN THE HANDS OF NEWLEY TRAINED HOMEOPATHS......which sold me on the fact that this sustainable form of medicine which was our past will also be the future for positice outcomes. Sincerely, Patricia Jordan DVM,CVA,CTCVM & Herbology Chinese Medicine Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:43:19 -0700 Re: swine flu Very funny, Yehudah! I was just thinking it would be as good idea to have oscillicoccinum on hand. It's homeopathic, not TCM, and is to be taken at the first signs of flu, rather than as a preventive. On the box, it says it's for " fever, chills, body aches and pains " . It's made by Boiron, and is available in health food stores and even in supermarkets these days. Any of our homeopaths have more knowledge about this product and its potential effectiveness for swine flu? Andrea Beth Traditional Oriental Medicine Happy Hours in the CALM Center 635 S. 10th St. Cottonwood, AZ 86326 (928) 274-1373 --- On Mon, 4/27/09, wrote: Re: swine flu Chinese Medicine Monday, April 27, 2009, 1:49 AM Why Ben Tu Tang (running piglet decoction), of course! (Just kidding!) --- On Sun, 4/26/09, RoseAnne Spradlin <ra6151 wrote: RoseAnne Spradlin <ra6151 swine flu Chinese Medicine Sunday, April 26, 2009, 6:10 PM Can any of you herbal experts recommend a formula to have on hand for swine flu? Just in case.... RoseAnne, NYC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 27, 2009 Garlic will grow in a pot if you have a window in your condo. Kay - CJ Fox herbal remedies Monday, April 27, 2009 8:43 AM Re: {Herbal Remedies} Swine Flu Thanks for the advice Doc. Need a lil info on garlic. I am not in a position to grow my own(live in a condo) Do you have any idea how long garlic bulbs will last that I buy at the co-op(organic) and what the best means of storage is for already purchased garlic bulbs? thank you so much CJ --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Ian <docshillington (AT) cabletvonline (DOT) net> wrote: Ian <docshillington (AT) cabletvonline (DOT) net>Re: {Herbal Remedies} Swine Fluherbal remedies Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 9:49 AM PS. And now's the time to take advantage of that 4 ounce Echinacea Special I've been talking about.Call the office today, while supplies last.Yours in Knowledge, Health and Freedom,DocIan wrote: Dear All,Have no idea whether or not this is just another Anthrax, SARS, Bird Flu hoax or not. Could also be a NWO set-up for worse to come.Rather than get all worried and bent out of shape about it, just make sure you've got plenty of Echinacea and Garlic on hand. Also, I've been getting quite a few reports from many different sources lately that proclaim Vitamin D is essential to handling Flus of all types as well. Don't forget your Vitamin C as well. Soooooooo, keep your Herbal Medicine Kit well stocked. Keep plenty of vitamins on hand, and never forget that Russian Penicillin (Garlic ;o).Yours in Knowledge, Health, and Freedom,Doc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 27, 2009 Thanks a million Doc. I had only heard of a braid of garlic...... never actually saw one......muchless a organic one! I can see that keeping fresh garlic will be a challenge. I dont have a dehydrator...... but I do have TT . I wanted to learn how long the shelf life was on the dried ones purchased in co-ops was. Dont have a source for the braids of organic garlic ....do you? I was thinking of eating raw garlic when I was healthy and saving on my TT. --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Ian <docshillington wrote: Ian <docshillingtonRe: {Herbal Remedies} Swine Fluherbal remedies Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 11:02 AM You're welcome HonA bulb of Garlic that still has its leaves (you can actually braid these together = where the term a braid of Garlic comes from) will last over a year if stored in a cool dark place.A bulb left out on a counter can last up to several months, but kept in a warm room may last only 3 months. A bulb that has been separated into its respective cloves will most likely last for only about a month, two at the most and only a couple of weeks if the area is warm and moist. The best way I know of preserving Garlic is to chop it up finely, and then dehydrate it. It'll last for just about forever if you do it this way.The only way that's better than that is to tincture it as we do in Total Tonic. TT is the ultimate ;o)Hugs,DocCJ Fox wrote: Thanks for the advice Doc. Need a lil info on garlic. I am not in a position to grow my own(live in a condo) Do you have any idea how long garlic bulbs will last that I buy at the co-op(organic) and what the best means of storage is for already purchased garlic bulbs? thank you so much CJ --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Ian <docshillington@ cabletvonline. net> wrote: Ian <docshillington@ cabletvonline. net>Re: {Herbal Remedies} Swine Fluherbal remediesMonday, April 27, 2009, 9:49 AM PS. And now's the time to take advantage of that 4 ounce Echinacea Special I've been talking about.Call the office today, while supplies last.Yours in Knowledge, Health and Freedom,DocIan wrote: Dear All,Have no idea whether or not this is just another Anthrax, SARS, Bird Flu hoax or not. Could also be a NWO set-up for worse to come.Rather than get all worried and bent out of shape about it, just make sure you've got plenty of Echinacea and Garlic on hand. Also, I've been getting quite a few reports from many different sources lately that proclaim Vitamin D is essential to handling Flus of all types as well. Don't forget your Vitamin C as well. Soooooooo, keep your Herbal Medicine Kit well stocked. Keep plenty of vitamins on hand, and never forget that Russian Penicillin (Garlic ;o).Yours in Knowledge, Health, and Freedom,Doc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 27, 2009 My source is that Bryan grows them for the family ;o) Hugs, Doc CJ Fox wrote: Thanks a million Doc. I had only heard of a braid of garlic...... never actually saw one......muchless a organic one! I can see that keeping fresh garlic will be a challenge. I dont have a dehydrator...... but I do have TT . I wanted to learn how long the shelf life was on the dried ones purchased in co-ops was. Dont have a source for the braids of organic garlic ....do you? I was thinking of eating raw garlic when I was healthy and saving on my TT. --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Ian <docshillington (AT) cabletvonline (DOT) net> wrote: Ian <docshillington (AT) cabletvonline (DOT) net> Re: {Herbal Remedies} Swine Flu herbal remedies Monday, April 27, 2009, 11:02 AM You're welcome Hon A bulb of Garlic that still has its leaves (you can actually braid these together = where the term a braid of Garlic comes from) will last over a year if stored in a cool dark place. A bulb left out on a counter can last up to several months, but kept in a warm room may last only 3 months. A bulb that has been separated into its respective cloves will most likely last for only about a month, two at the most and only a couple of weeks if the area is warm and moist. The best way I know of preserving Garlic is to chop it up finely, and then dehydrate it. It'll last for just about forever if you do it this way. The only way that's better than that is to tincture it as we do in Total Tonic. TT is the ultimate ;o) Hugs, Doc CJ Fox wrote: Thanks for the advice Doc. Need a lil info on garlic. I am not in a position to grow my own(live in a condo) Do you have any idea how long garlic bulbs will last that I buy at the co-op(organic) and what the best means of storage is for already purchased garlic bulbs? thank you so much CJ --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Ian <docshillington@ cabletvonline. net> wrote: Ian <docshillington@ cabletvonline. net> Re: {Herbal Remedies} Swine Flu herbal remedies Monday, April 27, 2009, 9:49 AM PS. And now's the time to take advantage of that 4 ounce Echinacea Special I've been talking about. Call the office today, while supplies last. Yours in Knowledge, Health and Freedom, Doc Ian wrote: Dear All, Have no idea whether or not this is just another Anthrax, SARS, Bird Flu hoax or not. Could also be a NWO set-up for worse to come. Rather than get all worried and bent out of shape about it, just make sure you've got plenty of Echinacea and Garlic on hand. Also, I've been getting quite a few reports from many different sources lately that proclaim Vitamin D is essential to handling Flus of all types as well. Don't forget your Vitamin C as well. Soooooooo, keep your Herbal Medicine Kit well stocked. Keep plenty of vitamins on hand, and never forget that Russian Penicillin (Garlic ;o). Yours in Knowledge, Health, and Freedom, Doc Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 27, 2009 Thanks Kay...... I do have one pot going....... .but I wanted access to LOTS of bulbs as in a string! best CJ --- On Mon, 4/27/09, kay <kay wrote: kay <kayRe: {Herbal Remedies} Swine Fluherbal remedies Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 1:13 PM Garlic will grow in a pot if you have a window in your condo. Kay - CJ Fox herbal remedies Monday, April 27, 2009 8:43 AM Re: {Herbal Remedies} Swine Flu Thanks for the advice Doc. Need a lil info on garlic. I am not in a position to grow my own(live in a condo) Do you have any idea how long garlic bulbs will last that I buy at the co-op(organic) and what the best means of storage is for already purchased garlic bulbs? thank you so much CJ --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Ian <docshillington@ cabletvonline. net> wrote: Ian <docshillington@ cabletvonline. net>Re: {Herbal Remedies} Swine Fluherbal remediesMonday, April 27, 2009, 9:49 AM PS. And now's the time to take advantage of that 4 ounce Echinacea Special I've been talking about.Call the office today, while supplies last.Yours in Knowledge, Health and Freedom,DocIan wrote: Dear All,Have no idea whether or not this is just another Anthrax, SARS, Bird Flu hoax or not. Could also be a NWO set-up for worse to come.Rather than get all worried and bent out of shape about it, just make sure you've got plenty of Echinacea and Garlic on hand. Also, I've been getting quite a few reports from many different sources lately that proclaim Vitamin D is essential to handling Flus of all types as well. Don't forget your Vitamin C as well. Soooooooo, keep your Herbal Medicine Kit well stocked. Keep plenty of vitamins on hand, and never forget that Russian Penicillin (Garlic ;o).Yours in Knowledge, Health, and Freedom,Doc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 27, 2009 I had only heard of a braid of garlic...... never actually saw one......muchless a organic one! > You should see my porch in August! It is festooned with garlic braids, organic too! But the first time I saw them, on a trip to Southern France in 1963, I honestly thought all those pretty decorations one saw on the farm houses were some sort of dried flower.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 28, 2009 One thing's for sure, the world wide police state is being ramped up because of this scare.--- On Mon, 4/27/09, Ian <docshillington wrote: Ian <docshillington{Herbal Remedies} Swine Fluherbal remedies (AT) Groups (DOT) comDate: Monday, April 27, 2009, 2:44 PM Dear All,Have no idea whether or not this is just another Anthrax, SARS, Bird Flu hoax or not. Could also be a NWO set-up for worse to come.Rather than get all worried and bent out of shape about it, just make sure you've got plenty of Echinacea and Garlic on hand. Also, I've been getting quite a few reports from many different sources lately that proclaim Vitamin D is essential to handling Flus of all types as well. Don't forget your Vitamin C as well. Soooooooo, keep your Herbal Medicine Kit well stocked. Keep plenty of vitamins on hand, and never forget that Russian Penicillin (Garlic ;o).Yours in Knowledge, Health, and Freedom,Doc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 28, 2009 yep, with a little garlic. (yea I know I'm a pain but I'm serious) guess I'm risking getting myself thrown out of this group again. Natural sauerkraut, of course. When Ko Hung talked about 9 out of 10 dying in epidemic diseases, he lauded garlic as the remedy, along with the typical herbal formulas. --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Mercurius Trismegistus <magisterium_magnum wrote: Mercurius Trismegistus <magisterium_magnum Re: swine flu Chinese Medicine Monday, April 27, 2009, 1:28 AM Sauer Kraut? - " RoseAnne Spradlin " <ra6151 <Traditional_ Chinese_Medicine > Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:10 PM swine flu > Can any of you herbal experts recommend a formula to have on hand for > swine flu? Just in case.... > > RoseAnne, NYC > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Subscribe to the free online journal for TCM at Times > http://www.chinesem edicinetimes. com > > Help build the world's largest online encyclopedia for Chinese medicine > and acupuncture, click, http://www.chinesem edicinetimes. com/wiki/ CMTpedia > > > http://groups. / group/Traditiona l_Chinese_ Medicine/ join and adjust > accordingly. > > Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the group > requires prior permission from the author. > > Please consider the environment and only print this message if absolutely > necessary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 28, 2009 Oh My ! Sounds wonderful. Can you give me some info on how you started your wonderful braids of garlic? I am a amateur gardener........but eager to learn and do! Thanks in advance! CJ --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Ieneke van Houten <ienvan wrote: Ieneke van Houten <ienvanRe: {Herbal Remedies} Swine Fluherbal remedies Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 5:25 PM I had only heard of a braid of garlic...... never actually saw one......muchless a organic one! > You should see my porch in August! It is festooned with garlic braids, organic too! But the first time I saw them, on a trip to Southern France in 1963, I honestly thought all those pretty decorations one saw on the farm houses were some sort of dried flower.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 27, 2009 Could it be because no one is really concerned about it? I know I'm not. And I've travelled around areas here in Australia where it is supposed to be rampant and never even got as much as a sniffle. I keep my " witches brew " on hand all the time just in case. Nope, not concerned about it at all. cheers Lyndall - " hawk4796 " <groundhawk2 Monday, July 27, 2009 4:23 AM swine flu Why is it that I find very little talk about swine flu here also what little there is is years old Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 30, 2009 I live in the UK, & I can positively tell you those figures are wrong. I listened to the news on tv the other night when it stated there had been 100,000 new cases in London, Leicester, Telford, Wrekin & Scotland. I have friends in Telford & Scotland, so I rang them, & told them what the news had said. Both of them said that they didnt know anyone with swine flu & didnt know anyone who knew anyone who had it !! Id love to know where they got these figures from. I know people who have had a slight cold & have been informed, over the telephone, not seen by anyone medical, that they have swine flu & need a vaccination. I dont know anyone who has had the vaccination !! I received this at the start of the epidemic !! (2 cases) *_Virus Myths Exposed --The True Causes of Pandemics_* > By Andreas Moritz > May 5, 2009 > > Dear Customer, > > In the past few weeks I have received hundreds of inquiries about > the recent outbreak of swine flu. My views on the subject may be > controversial to some of you, but they may not come as a surprise to > those who have read my books. I do not pretend to know everything > about the subject at hand, but I have studied the reasons behind flu > outbreaks for many years, and have arrived at some startling > conclusions. I would like to share these with you in this piece. > > To answer one question many have posed, the Mexican toddler who > visited Texas and died there actually suffered from a pre-existing > respiratory condition (who knows when he received his vaccine shots, > which kill many children). Or did he live in Mexico City? Mexico > City has a high concentration of people (over 20 million), poverty, > lousy sanitation and substandard health care, and the stagnant air > pollution that overhangs the city is one of the worst in world. > Nearly every person living in Mexico City has a weak respiratory > system. I know firsthand what air pollution can do to you. In 1983, > I spent one year in New Delhi (India), and suffered from upper > respiratory problems the entire year. You never stop coughing up > dark phlegm, day and night, when living in that kind of unhealthy > environment. My lungs were filled with black soot produced at a rate > of 2,000 tons per day by coal-burning electricity generators. > > Getting back to the matter at hand, the other diseased person is a > 33-year old woman who had several serious ailments, which would > probably have killed her with or even without the flu. And who knows > whether these two individuals had received a flu shot, which is > enough to kill someone with a weak immune system. Not to mention > eating pork, which nowadays is loaded with antibiotics, toxins and > hormones, as well as the garbage foods swine are given to eat - yet > another contributing factor. > > Why are Viruses so Beneficial? > > Contrary to common opinion, viruses don't kill people. If someone is > sick and also has a virus, he or she is not sick because of the > virus. A sickness must first exist before a virus can show up. > Viruses are designed to induce healing, not illness. The symptoms > such a healing effort produces (in this case, flu symptoms such as > fever, headache, dizziness, fatigue, etc.), do not constitute the > disease. Increasing body temperature (fever), for example, is one of > the body's best methods to increase production of immune cells to > deal with toxins and then dispose of bacteria, viruses, and fungi > when they are no longer needed. Influenza is the final stage of > healing an underlying disease; the disease consists of a buildup of > toxins, heavy metals, acidic waste products, dead cell material, and > other noxious substances that could otherwise lead to a life- > threatening condition. > > An infection is merely used to break down harmful substances, like > metals, drugs, chemicals, pesticides, food additives, trans fatty > acids from restaurant foods or ready made foods, artificial > sweeteners, etc. We don't need to destroy viruses; they are on our > side. Normally, some of these toxic substances can be broken down by > the body, but most of them require bacteria to dispose of them. Some > other things, however, require solvents to dissolve and remove them. > That's when the body makes viruses or allows them to be made and > spread through the body via the blood and lymph. > > Viruses are inert proteins that the body produces in order to attack > and dissolve such noxious substances. Viruses are not living > organisms, like bacteria. Unlike bacteria, they cannot reproduce > themselves because they have no digestive system or reproductive > system. The human body makes more of these solvents when it needs to > dissolve these harmful substances, and it stops making them when the > danger of cellular suffocation has subsided. They act effectively, > just like solvents in paint cleaners. > > The bottom line is that viruses can only become active and increase > in number in a toxic body that cannot be cleaned up by bacteria or > the body itself. To repeat, the human body only creates more viruses > when there is a need for it to mop up drug chemicals, food > preservatives, toxic metals such as mercury, pesticides, > medications, and animal parts that are present in every vaccine. To > protect itself, the body may store an enormous number of different > viruses, but they remain inactive until a need arises for them to > become active and spread to do their precious work. The immune > system produces antibodies to these viruses to remove and dispose of > most of them once the detoxification has occurred. Vaccinating a > person to invoke antibody production interferes with the body's most > basic healing mechanisms, and I consider it to be one of medicine's > most dangerous weapons - truly a weapon of mass destruction. > > Vaccines are the Real Threat > > From February of this year until just before the swine flu outbreak, > the Mexican government distributed, without charge I might add, > millions of flu vaccines. Getting something free in a country where > household income is low, is always desirable. And so millions of > Mexicans took the bait. Who knows what some of the vaccines had in > them. There is no real control agency to check what is contained in > vaccines. For example, in February, the major vaccine maker, Baxter, > combined the Avian flu virus with a human virus and sent this > " vaccine " (which I refer to as a biological weapon of mass > destruction) to 18 countries, hoping nobody would notice that it > contained the bird flu virus. But Czechoslovakia did notice it, > after parrots that received the vaccine died, and the plot was > discovered. Now the same company is most likely to obtain the rights > to produce a vaccine for the new H1N1 virus strain. Nobody can stop > them from making the same " mistake " again. It stands to reasonthat > Baxter's high security laboratory would check every batch of > vaccines for life-threatening viral material before shipping it out > to the world. But it does not make any sense, if their main > intention were to start a global pandemic that would end up earning > them a trillion dollars or more. Although the Baxter fiasco caused > an outrage in Europe, the media in this country did not report the > incident. After all, with all the ongoing massive vaccination > campaigns in this country, they could not allow the population to > panic. > > Flu vaccines typically cause the flu symptoms that constitute the > body's appropriate response to breakdown, and remove the injected > poisons. When the seasonal flu virus spreads in the human body, it's > because the body's immune system is weak. It is weak due to low > vitamin D levels during the fall and winter months. Flu seasons > don't occur during the summer when vitamin D production in the body > increases (in healthy response to sun exposure). A weak immune > system cannot keep the body clean, and a bacterial or viral > infection becomes necessary. This natural response to an unnatural > situation is not a disease and should be supported, not suppressed. > Vaccines have never been shown to be more effective than doing > nothing at all. Quite the contrary, they have contributed to > numerous outbreaks of diseases, which I have discussed in great > detail in my book, Timeless Secrets of Health and Rejuvenation. > > For example, in 1918-19, during the Spanish avian flu outbreak, only > those soldiers and other people who were vaccinated against the flu > actually fell ill and died, often right after receiving the shots. > Millions of people died from the lethal vaccines to which the body > had no natural defenses. Those who refused the vaccine remained > healthy, in spite of helping the sick and carrying away the dead. > > When the swine flu broke out in 1976, the US government launched a > massive campaign to vaccinate people, which killed and paralyzed > many. Nobody died from the swine flu which was just as harmless then > as it is today. Vaccines that are loaded with animal parts, > preservatives, mercury, antibiotics, etc., and antiviral drugs such > as Tamiflu, are the only dangerous things about flu pandemics. Side > effects of Tamiflu include this warning on their web site: > > " Rare but serious skin reactions and allergic reactions have been > reported. Stop taking TAMIFLU and call your doctor if you experience > any of these reactions, as they could be very serious. People with > the flu, particularly children and adolescents, may be at an > increased risk of self injury and confusion shortly after taking > TAMIFLU and should be closely monitored for signs of unusual > behavior. A healthcare professional should be contacted immediately > if the patient taking TAMIFLU shows any signs of unusual behavior. " > > In Japan. children have died right after taking Tamiflu. The benefit > of taking this drug is that it cuts short the flu by up to 1 1/2 > days. Quite a price to pay, especially when it includes lifelong > paralysis or death. > > Pandemics are man-made or due to vaccination programs, starvation, > and poor hygiene (polluted drinking water and spoiled foods), and > antibiotics affecting the immune system. Viral infection is an > effect of illness, not its cause, just as bacteria are capable of > infecting only unhealthy, weak, or damaged cells. An apple on the > tree is naturally resistant to bacteria, but as soon as it falls > from the tree and is bruised, bacteria start doing their work to > decompose it, which they should. To say that a bruised apple is sick > and infected by deadly germs is ludicrous. Yet it is considered to > be sound medical science to blame a virus and a bacterium for an > infection in the human body that is congested with, or damaged by, > toxic waste, rotting cadaver foods (dead animal cells) in the belly, > and accumulated formaldehyde, anti-freeze agents, chemicals > preservatives, antibiotics, animal body parts, and mercury contained > in vaccines. There is no vicious and indiscriminate attacked by > bacteria and viruses. Nature does not fight against itself. There is > no war between humans and nature, unless of course, we try to > destroy it or upset the balance of the natural forces and resources. > Still, the masses have fallen for this pseudo science as it has been > deftly presented to them. > > The More Sinister Reasons Behind Pandemics > > The spreading of the idea that viruses and bacteria cause diseases, > is more a means to keep the masses fear-bound and controlled than it > is scientific fact. And there is big money to be made from such > misconceptions. During the 1960s, the virus industry was extremely > underfunded because epidemics were nowhere to be found. Plans were > made to manufacture new virus strains (to use them to induce cancer > in animals for " cancer research " ). In truth, however, the mixing of > certain viral strains, normally not occurring in nature, led to new > possibilities of sabotaging the immune systems of even the healthy > people. The intention was to generate new illnesses that didn't > exist before, and for which natural immunity is helpless. When > injected into people through vaccines, these virus cocktails would > shut down the immune system, destroy cell nuclei and trigger the > production or human retroviruses, such as HIV (see also, Ending the > AIDS Myth). > > In 1962, scientists at University of UCLA concocted a new virus > strain to induce cancer in animals (purportedly for cancer > research). They combined an animal virus with a smallpox virus, that > was then made into a smallpox vaccine by a major pharmaceutical > company. The vaccine was kindly donated to Africa to vaccinate 125 > million people. What a gesture of goodwill! Those with the weakest > immune systems developed severe immune deficiency symptoms, which > later were misinterpreted as AIDS diseases. Out of the 125 million > people who were vaccinated, 98 million developed AIDS. AIDS turned > out to be huge money maker, and a bargain chip for the wealthy > nations to make and keep these poor countries dependent on them by > distributing condoms for population control and powerful (immune- > destructive) AIDS drugs to " cure " AIDS. > > The anti-AIDS drugs that poured into the developed world became a > means to prevent the rise and independence of the poor countries' > economies. To help these countries " survive, " in exchange for these > expensive and otherwise unaffordable medications, the US, UK and > other wealthy nations persuaded poor countries to sign agreements to > hand over important economic production rights and natural > resources. The virus myth has always been in place to control the > masses and the world. > > The latest swine flu virus outbreak is not a naturally occurring > event, but instead induced by a genetically-engineered virus. It has > elements of DNA from the following: avian flu, human flu Type A, > human flu Type B, Asian swine flu, and European swine flu. This > combination has never been seen before and has less than 1/10% > chance of being a natural event. This virus is genetically spliced > off the 1918 Spanish flu, which was also a fabricated virus (a bird > virus does not jump species, unless it is made to). The members of > the US army were the first ones to die during the Spanish flu > outbreak, often moments after they received the vaccinations. > > Although the new swine flu virus was clearly engineered in the > laboratory, the cocktail of various viral strains and poisons didn't > have the desired effects of killing a lot of people, as hoped. > Starting the pandemic in a polluted city should have killed many > more than it actually did. The well-prepared campaigns by the World > Health Organization (WHO), the Centers of Disease Control (CDC) and > the media predicted a huge problem for the world, and they caused a > lot of panic, enough to make many people want to become vaccinated > against swine flu as soon as the vaccine would become available > (probably before October, albeit not properly tested for safety). As > " predicted " by the CDC, there is likely going to be a recurrence, > and perhaps a more serious outbreak the next time. They are not > telling us, though, that the outbreak will be caused by the > vaccines, as it usually happens. > > More Flu Myths Exposed > > What amazes me most is that we are programmed to believe that the > flu can be passed on from person to person, although studies have > clearly shown that infection does not occur in every person who is > exposed to the same virus. Typically, only 10% or less of subjects > exposed to a virus develop symptoms. In those 10%, the body uses the > virus to mop up accumulated noxious substances. In the rest, the > body is capable of doing this without the help of such a solvent. > During a recent press conference, the CDC had to admit that no > passengers traveling in the nation's airplanes had passed the swine > flu virus to any other person. How then do they explain the virus > spreading from Mexico to the US and the rest of the world? Nobody > seems to be able to explain how the Mexican toddler who died in > Texas got infected when no other members of his family, including > parents, siblings and grandparents who were with him all the time, > contracted the swine flu virus themselves? Many people live in > complete isolation but still develop the seasonal flu because their > body makes a strain of virus that is most conducive to cleanse > itself of toxins. The mutation of flu virus from season to season > is essential for the human body's survival. If there were just one > type of flu virus, the body would develop immunity and never get the > opportunity to cleanse itself, should the need arise. > > Although the CDC repeats each year (since 2001) that 32,000 > Americans die from the flu each year, there are no actually > confirmed cases of death where it has actually been shown influenza > was the cause. What is known is this: 61,777 people died from > pneumonia each year in the US (2001 deaths: Final data for 2001, > NCHS, CDC). Pneumonia is caused by severe respiratory congestion > that requires bacteria to intervene. The infection is called > pneumonia, and bacteria are blamed for causing it. In most cases, > pneumonia is treated with antibiotics, which prevents lung > detoxification. The antibiotics further suppress the natural > defenses of the body, thereby preventing it from mopping up the drug > chemicals. When a flu infection occurs, and the patient dies from > respiratory failure in spite of it, the doctor may be tempted to say > it was the flu that killed the patient. In truth, however, the > patient died from internal congestion and a weak immune system. > Young children whose immune systems have been severely compromised > by vaccines, and the elderly who are on at least 2 -3 prescription > drugs which always act as immune-suppressants, are the most > susceptible to develop flu symptoms. > > Keeping the immune system strong and the body clean through liver, > colon and kidney cleanses (see The Amazing Liver and Gallbladder > Flush for details), is the best we can do to get through these > trying times of increasing contamination. Also include avoiding > doctors, hospitals, surgeries, drugs and vaccines, as well as > getting enough sleep (8 -9 hours), eating fresh, nutritious foods, > avoiding processed foods and animal proteins, and getting sufficient > sun exposure to keep vitamin D levels up. > > We shouldn't blame those who try to make a fortune from our > ignorance, but we can certainly stop playing the victim in this > power game. If we refuse to play, nobody can mislead us, and when > there are no more victims, the entire problem disappears. As always, > it is up to us to make a difference. > > Warmly, > Andreas > > For more information about the following subjects, see Chapter 13 of > Timeless Secrets of Health and Rejuvenation: > > Immunization Programs Under Scrutiny > Poisonous Vaccines Against Harmless Infections > Involuntary Vaccinations > Vaccination No Longer Makes Any Sense > Unfounded Vaccination Hysteria > Is The Need For Immunization Based On Statistical Errors? > How To Acquire Immunity Naturally > Vaccination - Attack On Your Body, Brain And Spirit > The Vaccine-Autism Link > How To Stay Immune > Natural Methods Of Nursing Children Back To Health > Protection Against The Flu? > Protect Yourself Against The Flu Vaccine! > Why People Get The Flu > In The Name Of Prevention > Help From Mother Nature > > > Ener-Chi Wellness Center > www.ener-chi.com > > Copyright©2009 by Andreas Moritz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 31, 2009 look up on you tube-Dr GARY NULL -he has an interesting theory on Swine flu-we probally don't say much about it as it is a NEW virus and we can recommend some help for viral treatments---we have no prior knowledge to this particular virus-so we are all basially in the dark till we try and prove remedies and learn more TRUTHS in this reguard- there will be many more viruses come about as man evolves-so does all other life forms whether by nature or mans influence upon them- this one is mild in comparrison to what can and will no dought be unleashed upon us eventually--all though history we have had plaugues that have killed many in the human race-now that the world is more populated and people can travel from one side of the world to another in a matter of hours any such serious virus has the potential to almost wipe out the human race- except for those pockets of isolated people that are fortunate enough to be separated and living in a situation where there is no need to go to populated areas or rely on others for surival,; untill the virus has died with it's host--sorry don't wish to sound like a science fiction writter bearing news of paranoia and doom-just sharing a thought or two here with someone that bought up a subject- hope you have a good day-don't be scared of the public- we are also viruses on planet earth-it may have a better chance of surviving if we don't so it is all up to God-just live today for that is all any of us really have anyway>>... ________________________________ hawk4796 <groundhawk2 Monday, 27 July, 2009 4:23:44 AM swine flu Why is it that I find very little talk about swine flu here also what little there is is years old ______________________________\ ____ Access 7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how: http://au.mobile./mail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
