Guest guest Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Hi I am new to the site. I was diagnosed with throat cancer on my upper fake vocal cords a week ago, so the last few days have been the normal roller coaster ride of emotions. I have been reading your site after seeing your forum on curezone. I sure could use some help. My tumor is not very big as tumors go I guess, and it is stage 2. I guess what I am looking for is any kind of advice you all can give me. My husband is dead set on y doing the chemo and radation, me I just wish I could do it the way you all have talked about here. He said as long as it was caught this early and it is so small he wants me to do it their way, he is afraid if we try it the natural way and it dosen't work that by the time I have the radation, etc, it might be alot bigger and deeper in the tissue and of course they are saying there should be no problem retoring my voice, which by the way I have not had in almost 2 months. They are saying no feeding tube or trac should be needed. So any advice from you guys would be GREATLY Appreciated. Thank you Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Bless your heart Pam, I understand the roller coaster emotions you must be going through. Have you gotten Tony's ebook, Cancer's Natural Enemy? It will give you an understanding of how cancer enters the body and how, by natural means, it can leave he body. I also understand your husband's reasoning, it is fear based and understandably so. However, I would like to point out that members using the Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol are having very positive results. Cancer enters the body through a weakened immune system and an impaired liver. Chemo and radiation further compromise that weakened immune system. However, if you do choose this route Oleander lessens or eliminates the side effects of chemo and radiation. Oleander is over 90% effective against all types of cancers, and when used in conjunction with Tony's overall protocol, the results are even better. Tony's protocol focuses on strengthening the immune system, making it impossible for cancer to reside in the body. It focuses on the source of the cancer rather than attacking it from the outside with chemo and radiation. You can get the oleander supplement (Sutherlandia OPC) at http://www.sutherlandiaopc.com. And here is a link to Tony's Protocol. /anticancer.htm And I am going to include an article so you can understand how Oleander deals with cancer by encouraging cell death. /autophagy.htm I am also going to include the link to Tony's ebook, Cancer's Natural Enemy. This ebook will give you a complete understanding and brand new perspective on cancer, /rose-laurel.htm And feel free to go through the articles in the Files Section to the left and at /articles.htm You can read the entire Oleander Series on the top right hand of the page. All in all, you have come to the best forum there is on natural healing for cancer and even other conditions. Not only will you have Tony to guide you in your healing journey, but you will find that we have a wonderful group of caring people, which include doctors that focus on natural healing. Pam, I wish to welcome you to our family and please try to relax. You have every reason to be positive. Let me leave you with one last link. This is the Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT). It works wonderfully for stress, overall emotions, pain, and even more just by tapping on acupressure points throughout the body. http://www.emofree.com/default_v2.aspx I wish you the very best and look forward to getting to know you. Warm regards, oleander soup , "shanya_one" <shanya_one wrote:>> Hi I am new to the site. I was diagnosed with throat cancer on my upper fake vocal cords a week ago, so the last few days have been the normal roller coaster ride of emotions. I have been reading your site after seeing your forum on curezone. I sure could use some help. My tumor is not very big as tumors go I guess, and it is stage 2. I guess what I am looking for is any kind of advice you all can give me. My husband is dead set on y doing the chemo and radation, me I just wish I could do it the way you all have talked about here. He said as long as it was caught this early and it is so small he wants me to do it their way, he is afraid if we try it the natural way and it dosen't work that by the time I have the radation, etc, it might be alot bigger and deeper in the tissue and of course they are saying there should be no problem retoring my voice, which by the way I have not had in almost 2 months. They are saying no feeding tube or trac should be needed. So any advice from you guys would be GREATLY Appreciated.> > Thank you> Pam> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Pam - Welcome to our group. May gave a wonderful reply. I will just add my two or three cents here and remind you that in the finaly analysis it is your life, your body and your decision to make. Personally, I would almost never opt for mainstream treatments first unless there is some life threatening blockage or perhaps a very large, very aggressive cancer where perhaps surgery might buy some time to enable nature and the body's first line of defense to provide a lasting remedy. Surgery however, risks spreading the cancer, as does chemo and radiation in many's opinion, and at any rate chemo and radiation never cure anything. At best they merely remove the symptom (tumor) without addressing the underlying causes and the damage they do to your immune system only paves the way for the return of cancer against a body even less prepared to fight it. I urge you to read my articles and decide for yourself which is the best way to go. I understand family concern and all the pressures that come with that, but it should not cause anyone to go against their better judgment when their life is at stake. If it were me, especially since the cancer is only at stage 2 at this point, unless the cancer was a particularly aggressive one I would give a dedicated effort at a natural protocol like what I suggest two or three months before considering other options. But again, it is your decision to make. If for whatever reason you do opt for the mainstream route, I will reiterate what said about using oleander along with chemo and/or radiation, and I strongly suggest that regardless of how successful they might tell you the mainstream treatment is you should realize that it is providing merely a brief respite and you should immediately follow up with a natural anti cancer and immune boosting protocol to make sure you keep the cancer from returning. Whatever you decide to do, we will be here for you. All the best, oleander soup , "shanya_one" <shanya_one wrote:>> Hi I am new to the site. I was diagnosed with throat cancer on my upper fake vocal cords a week ago, so the last few days have been the normal roller coaster ride of emotions. I have been reading your site after seeing your forum on curezone. I sure could use some help. My tumor is not very big as tumors go I guess, and it is stage 2. I guess what I am looking for is any kind of advice you all can give me. My husband is dead set on y doing the chemo and radation, me I just wish I could do it the way you all have talked about here. He said as long as it was caught this early and it is so small he wants me to do it their way, he is afraid if we try it the natural way and it dosen't work that by the time I have the radation, etc, it might be alot bigger and deeper in the tissue and of course they are saying there should be no problem retoring my voice, which by the way I have not had in almost 2 months. They are saying no feeding tube or trac should be needed. So any advice from you guys would be GREATLY Appreciated.> > Thank you> Pam> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Hey Pam, Yeah, that's a tough call. I was diagnosed with Squameous Cell Cancer in the base of my tongue 2.5 years ago. At the time of the diagnosis, the tumore was a stage 2. But by the time they did a couple of cat scans (very bad for you by the way) and preliminaries it had grown to stage 4 with a 40% chance of survival. I would have had 6 weeks of Radiation, 2 treatments of Chemo, food tube. They also wanted to pull all my teeth. It would have destroyed my salvery glands and compromised my jaw bone. Afterwards they said I might need surgery. I decided to pray and try alternative treatments. It was hard for my wife at first, but I was not willing to go through all that and have a 60% chance of dying anyway. I started a Cesium protocol, along with numerous others, and eventually went to Mexico to the IBC Hospital for treatment. They managed to reduced the amount of cancer in the tumor and clear my lymph nodes. The tumor has continued to grow, but I think this protocol has already begun to effect it. If I were you I would start immediately with as much of the protocol as possible and see if it has any effect. My guess is that it will be 4 weeks before they actually have you starting treatment. The OPC can be taken during their treatment if you decide to go for the conventional treatment. Once thing is for sure, if they don't get it all your immune system will be compromised and unable to respond to the cancer. If it comes back it will be radiation resistant and drug resistant. The ENT doctor is not the one to ask about it's actual stage and cure probability, it's the oncologist. My ENT was very positive and said it would not be a problem. It was the oncologist that said it was stage 4 etc. And I read somewhere that one of the Chemo drugs tends to scatter the cancer cells to other places in your body. If I had it to do again, I would do the same, maybe some different protocols, but I definately would not consider doing conventional treatments for cancer. Ever! Hope that helps some, Matthew Moore oleander soup , " shanya_one " <shanya_one wrote: > > Hi I am new to the site. I was diagnosed with throat cancer on my upper fake vocal cords a week ago, so the last few days have been the normal roller coaster ride of emotions. I have been reading your site after seeing your forum on curezone. I sure could use some help. My tumor is not very big as tumors go I guess, and it is stage 2. I guess what I am looking for is any kind of advice you all can give me. My husband is dead set on y doing the chemo and radation, me I just wish I could do it the way you all have talked about here. He said as long as it was caught this early and it is so small he wants me to do it their way, he is afraid if we try it the natural way and it dosen't work that by the time I have the radation, etc, it might be alot bigger and deeper in the tissue and of course they are saying there should be no problem retoring my voice, which by the way I have not had in almost 2 months. They are saying no feeding tube or trac should be needed. So any advice from you guys would be GREATLY Appreciated. > > Thank you > Pam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Pam: I agree 100%. Get going on your plan Pam. Keep us informed. Hope your day goes well. Duke Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone --- On Fri, 4/17/09, matthewalanmoore <poppers5 wrote: matthewalanmoore <poppers5 Re: Throat Canceroleander soup Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 11:31 PM Hey Pam,Yeah, that's a tough call. I was diagnosed with Squameous Cell Cancer in the base of my tongue 2.5 years ago.At the time of the diagnosis, the tumore was a stage 2. But by the time they did a couple of cat scans (very bad for you by the way) and preliminaries it had grown to stage 4 with a 40% chance of survival. I would have had 6 weeks of Radiation, 2 treatments of Chemo, food tube. They also wanted to pull all my teeth. It would have destroyed my salvery glands and compromised my jaw bone. Afterwards they said I might need surgery. I decided to pray and try alternative treatments. It was hard for my wife at first, but I was not willing to go through all that and have a 60% chance of dying anyway. I started a Cesium protocol, along with numerous others, and eventually went to Mexico to the IBC Hospital for treatment. They managed to reduced the amount of cancer in the tumor and clear my lymph nodes. The tumor has continued to grow, but I think this protocol has already begun to effect it. If I were you I would start immediately with as much of the protocol as possible and see if it has any effect. My guess is that it will be 4 weeks before they actually have you starting treatment. The OPC can be taken during their treatment if you decide to go for the conventional treatment. Once thing is for sure, if they don't get it all your immune system will be compromised and unable to respond to the cancer. If it comes back it will be radiation resistant and drug resistant. The ENT doctor is not the one to ask about it's actual stage and cure probability, it's the oncologist. My ENT was very positive and said it would not be a problem. It was the oncologist that said it was stage 4 etc.And I read somewhere that one of the Chemo drugs tends to scatter the cancer cells to other places in your body.If I had it to do again, I would do the same, maybe some different protocols, but I definately would not consider doing conventional treatments for cancer. Ever!Hope that helps some,Matthew Mooreoleander soup, "shanya_one" <shanya_one@ ...> wrote:>> Hi I am new to the site. I was diagnosed with throat cancer on my upper fake vocal cords a week ago, so the last few days have been the normal roller coaster ride of emotions. I have been reading your site after seeing your forum on curezone. I sure could use some help. My tumor is not very big as tumors go I guess, and it is stage 2. I guess what I am looking for is any kind of advice you all can give me. My husband is dead set on y doing the chemo and radation, me I just wish I could do it the way you all have talked about here. He said as long as it was caught this early and it is so small he wants me to do it their way, he is afraid if we try it the natural way and it dosen't work that by the time I have the radation, etc, it might be alot bigger and deeper in the tissue and of course they are saying there should be no problem retoring my voice, which by the way I have not had in almost 2 months. They are saying no feeding tube or trac should be needed. So any advice from you guys would be GREATLY Appreciated.> > Thank you> Pam> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 oleander soup , Duke Stone <dukesdeals wrote: > > Pam: > I was diagnosed three years ago with throat cancer and start alternative methods. . I am still here. with no doctor intervention I feel that Tony's approach is very good but not enough to really get a persons attention. I do every thing he suggests. PLUS. I eat no animal anything. All of my veg is raw or dehydrated as per http://carolalt.com and other raw foodists and you can not cheat even a little until you know you have on. I didn't do everything I am doing now when I was first diagnosed and mine got out of control. > > Every day I work the Internet looking for more answers but this is a great place to start. I have lost my ability to speak right now but you can call my wife Carol for info any time during the day and after 10 AM at 214-823-9827 > > > Thank you for the offer of being able to call and talk to your wife, but I also have no voice, I haven not been able to do more than a very soft whisper for about 2 months now. After losing my voice for a week, thinking it was just larengitis I finally went to the doc and then was seeing specialists and was informed at that time I had a tumor. I have been doing a Yogi's Detox tea to clean my liver that was one of the first things I did. I also have been doing Dr Schultz's super food, altho I have been doing the superfood off and on for the last couple years. I went and got a coffee grinder as I have a gallon of organic flaxseed, that way I can do the cottage cheese and linseed oil. I am awaiting my opc, altho that will be quite a wait. 12 days is a long time. I am still unsure as to where to get the Essiac Tea at. But I will keep looking. Thank you for your help it is so nice to be able to talk to someone who has the same thing as I do. Pam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Duke > Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone > > > --- On Thu, 4/16/09, shanya_one <shanya_one wrote: > > > shanya_one <shanya_one > Throat Cancer > oleander soup > Thursday, April 16, 2009, 6:08 PM > > Hi I am new to the site. I was diagnosed with throat cancer on my upper fake vocal cords a week ago, so the last few days have been the normal roller coaster ride of emotions. I have been reading your site after seeing your forum on curezone. I sure could use some help. My tumor is not very big as tumors go I guess, and it is stage 2. I guess what I am looking for is any kind of advice you all can give me. My husband is dead set on y doing the chemo and radation, me I just wish I could do it the way you all have talked about here. He said as long as it was caught this early and it is so small he wants me to do it their way, he is afraid if we try it the natural way and it dosen't work that by the time I have the radation, etc, it might be alot bigger and deeper in the tissue and of course they are saying there should be no problem retoring my voice, which by the way I have not had in almost 2 months. They are saying no feeding tube or trac should be > needed. So any advice from you guys would be GREATLY Appreciated. > > Un > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Pam Books have become very important to me and the Dallas library has been invaluable but many of the books a filled with information that is wrong. Like Patrick Quillon' s - Beating Cancer with Nutrition which is pure garbage and most of the otheres still don't catch on to the fact that once the foods cell wall is broken with heating/cooking it turns into a simple carbohydrate that our bodies convert to sugar and fat immediately. It took me a while to work through that but after about 300 books I can tell you that the key is the raw organic or at least good looking vegetables is the basis along with getting what you do eat out the other end. My biggist challenge had been Carol's inability to stop feeding me the wrong stuff. I do all of my own shopping now and prepare 95% of my meals seperately. This has only been for the last six months and it has made a big differents and she hates it and has become very defensive about the subject and the pantry is full of things that are junk, which of course she continues to eat. Do you have access to a good library . Are you getting This free news letter http://Mercola.com ? Email me any time. Duke Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone --- On Sat, 4/18/09, shanya_one <shanya_one wrote: shanya_one <shanya_one Re: Throat Canceroleander soup Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 6:56 PM oleander soup, Duke Stone <dukesdeals@ ...> wrote:>> Pam:> I was diagnosed three years ago with throat cancer and start alternative methods. . I am still here. with no doctor intervention I feel that Tony's approach is very good but not enough to really get a persons attention. I do every thing he suggests. PLUS. I eat no animal anything. All of my veg is raw or dehydrated as per http://carolalt. com and other raw foodists and you can not cheat even a little until you know you have on. I didn't do everything I am doing now when I was first diagnosed and mine got out of control.> > Every day I work the Internet looking for more answers but this is a great place to start. I have lost my ability to speak right now but you can call my wife Carol for info any time during the day and after 10 AM at 214-823-9827 > > > Thank you for the offer of being able to call and talk to your wife, but I also have no voice, I haven not been able to do more than a very soft whisper for about 2 months now. After losing my voice for a week, thinking it was just larengitis I finally went to the doc and then was seeing specialists and was informed at that time I had a tumor. I have been doing a Yogi's Detox tea to clean my liver that was one of the first things I did. I also have been doing Dr Schultz's super food, altho I have been doing the superfood off and on for the last couple years. I went and got a coffee grinder as I have a gallon of organic flaxseed, that way I can do the cottage cheese and linseed oil. I am awaiting my opc, altho that will be quite a wait. 12 days is a long time. I am still unsure as to where to get the Essiac Tea at. But I will keep looking. Thank you for your help it is so nice to be able to talk to someone who has the same thing as I do.Pam> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Duke> Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone@ ...> > > --- On Thu, 4/16/09, shanya_one <shanya_one@ ...> wrote:> > > shanya_one <shanya_one@ ...>> Throat Cancer> oleander soup> Thursday, April 16, 2009, 6:08 PM> > > > > > > > > Hi I am new to the site. I was diagnosed with throat cancer on my upper fake vocal cords a week ago, so the last few days have been the normal roller coaster ride of emotions. I have been reading your site after seeing your forum on curezone. I sure could use some help. My tumor is not very big as tumors go I guess, and it is stage 2. I guess what I am looking for is any kind of advice you all can give me. My husband is dead set on y doing the chemo and radation, me I just wish I could do it the way you all have talked about here. He said as long as it was caught this early and it is so small he wants me to do it their way, he is afraid if we try it the natural way and it dosen't work that by the time I have the radation, etc, it might be alot bigger and deeper in the tissue and of course they are saying there should be no problem retoring my voice, which by the way I have not had in almost 2 months. They are saying no feeding tube or trac should be> needed. So any advice from you guys would be GREATLY Appreciated.> > Un > .> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Duke you sound like you go through what I do at home. My hubby eats very unhealthy and I too have gone raw vegan as you have and it is a challenge living with someone who is not on the same page. What a challenge! Tammatha - Duke Stone oleander soup Sunday, April 19, 2009 3:35 AM Re: Re: Throat Cancer Pam Books have become very important to me and the Dallas library has been invaluable but many of the books a filled with information that is wrong. Like Patrick Quillon' s - Beating Cancer with Nutrition which is pure garbage and most of the otheres still don't catch on to the fact that once the foods cell wall is broken with heating/cooking it turns into a simple carbohydrate that our bodies convert to sugar and fat immediately. It took me a while to work through that but after about 300 books I can tell you that the key is the raw organic or at least good looking vegetables is the basis along with getting what you do eat out the other end. My biggist challenge had been Carol's inability to stop feeding me the wrong stuff. I do all of my own shopping now and prepare 95% of my meals seperately. This has only been for the last six months and it has made a big differents and she hates it and has become very defensive about the subject and the pantry is full of things that are junk, which of course she continues to eat. Do you have access to a good library . Are you getting This free news letter http://Mercola.com ? Email me any time. Duke Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone (AT) hotmail (DOT) com --- On Sat, 4/18/09, shanya_one <shanya_one > wrote: shanya_one <shanya_one > Re: Throat Canceroleander soup Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 6:56 PM oleander soup, Duke Stone <dukesdeals@ ...> wrote:>> Pam:> I was diagnosed three years ago with throat cancer and start alternative methods. . I am still here. with no doctor intervention I feel that Tony's approach is very good but not enough to really get a persons attention. I do every thing he suggests. PLUS. I eat no animal anything. All of my veg is raw or dehydrated as per http://carolalt. com and other raw foodists and you can not cheat even a little until you know you have on. I didn't do everything I am doing now when I was first diagnosed and mine got out of control.> > Every day I work the Internet looking for more answers but this is a great place to start. I have lost my ability to speak right now but you can call my wife Carol for info any time during the day and after 10 AM at 214-823-9827 > > > Thank you for the offer of being able to call and talk to your wife, but I also have no voice, I haven not been able to do more than a very soft whisper for about 2 months now. After losing my voice for a week, thinking it was just larengitis I finally went to the doc and then was seeing specialists and was informed at that time I had a tumor. I have been doing a Yogi's Detox tea to clean my liver that was one of the first things I did. I also have been doing Dr Schultz's super food, altho I have been doing the superfood off and on for the last couple years. I went and got a coffee grinder as I have a gallon of organic flaxseed, that way I can do the cottage cheese and linseed oil. I am awaiting my opc, altho that will be quite a wait. 12 days is a long time. I am still unsure as to where to get the Essiac Tea at. But I will keep looking. Thank you for your help it is so nice to be able to talk to someone who has the same thing as I do.Pam> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Duke> Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone@ ...> > > --- On Thu, 4/16/09, shanya_one <shanya_one@ ...> wrote:> > > shanya_one <shanya_one@ ...>> Throat Cancer> oleander soup> Thursday, April 16, 2009, 6:08 PM> > > > > > > > > Hi I am new to the site. I was diagnosed with throat cancer on my upper fake vocal cords a week ago, so the last few days have been the normal roller coaster ride of emotions. I have been reading your site after seeing your forum on curezone. I sure could use some help. My tumor is not very big as tumors go I guess, and it is stage 2. I guess what I am looking for is any kind of advice you all can give me. My husband is dead set on y doing the chemo and radation, me I just wish I could do it the way you all have talked about here. He said as long as it was caught this early and it is so small he wants me to do it their way, he is afraid if we try it the natural way and it dosen't work that by the time I have the radation, etc, it might be alot bigger and deeper in the tissue and of course they are saying there should be no problem retoring my voice, which by the way I have not had in almost 2 months. They are saying no feeding tube or trac should be> needed. So any advice from you guys would be GREATLY Appreciated.> > Un > .> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Tammatha: Sometime it takes rubbing the dogs nose in it several time before they finally "begin" to understand. Sound like you have that same mentality in a husband. Duke Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone --- On Sun, 4/19/09, Tammatha <tammatha wrote: Tammatha <tammathaRe: Re: Throat Canceroleander soup Date: Sunday, April 19, 2009, 3:12 PM Duke you sound like you go through what I do at home. My hubby eats very unhealthy and I too have gone raw vegan as you have and it is a challenge living with someone who is not on the same page. What a challenge! Tammatha - Duke Stone oleander soup Sunday, April 19, 2009 3:35 AM Re: Re: Throat Cancer Pam Books have become very important to me and the Dallas library has been invaluable but many of the books a filled with information that is wrong. Like Patrick Quillon' s - Beating Cancer with Nutrition which is pure garbage and most of the otheres still don't catch on to the fact that once the foods cell wall is broken with heating/cooking it turns into a simple carbohydrate that our bodies convert to sugar and fat immediately. It took me a while to work through that but after about 300 books I can tell you that the key is the raw organic or at least good looking vegetables is the basis along with getting what you do eat out the other end. My biggist challenge had been Carol's inability to stop feeding me the wrong stuff. I do all of my own shopping now and prepare 95% of my meals seperately. This has only been for the last six months and it has made a big differents and she hates it and has become very defensive about the subject and the pantry is full of things that are junk, which of course she continues to eat. Do you have access to a good library . Are you getting This free news letter http://Mercola. com ? Email me any time. Duke Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone (AT) hotmail (DOT) com --- On Sat, 4/18/09, shanya_one <shanya_one > wrote: shanya_one <shanya_one > Re: Throat Canceroleander soupSaturday, April 18, 2009, 6:56 PM oleander soup, Duke Stone <dukesdeals@ ...> wrote:>> Pam:> I was diagnosed three years ago with throat cancer and start alternative methods. . I am still here. with no doctor intervention I feel that Tony's approach is very good but not enough to really get a persons attention. I do every thing he suggests. PLUS. I eat no animal anything. All of my veg is raw or dehydrated as per http://carolalt. com and other raw foodists and you can not cheat even a little until you know you have on. I didn't do everything I am doing now when I was first diagnosed and mine got out of control.> > Every day I work the Internet looking for more answers but this is a great place to start. I have lost my ability to speak right now but you can call my wife Carol for info any time during the day and after 10 AM at 214-823-9827 > > > Thank you for the offer of being able to call and talk to your wife, but I also have no voice, I haven not been able to do more than a very soft whisper for about 2 months now. After losing my voice for a week, thinking it was just larengitis I finally went to the doc and then was seeing specialists and was informed at that time I had a tumor. I have been doing a Yogi's Detox tea to clean my liver that was one of the first things I did. I also have been doing Dr Schultz's super food, altho I have been doing the superfood off and on for the last couple years. I went and got a coffee grinder as I have a gallon of organic flaxseed, that way I can do the cottage cheese and linseed oil. I am awaiting my opc, altho that will be quite a wait. 12 days is a long time. I am still unsure as to where to get the Essiac Tea at. But I will keep looking. Thank you for your help it is so nice to be able to talk to someone who has the same thing as I do.Pam> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Duke> Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone@ ...> > > --- On Thu, 4/16/09, shanya_one <shanya_one@ ...> wrote:> > > shanya_one <shanya_one@ ...>> Throat Cancer> oleander soup> Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 6:08 PM> > > > > > > > > Hi I am new to the site. I was diagnosed with throat cancer on my upper fake vocal cords a week ago, so the last few days have been the normal roller coaster ride of emotions. I have been reading your site after seeing your forum on curezone. I sure could use some help. My tumor is not very big as tumors go I guess, and it is stage 2. I guess what I am looking for is any kind of advice you all can give me. My husband is dead set on y doing the chemo and radation, me I just wish I could do it the way you all have talked about here. He said as long as it was caught this early and it is so small he wants me to do it their way, he is afraid if we try it the natural way and it dosen't work that by the time I have the radation, etc, it might be alot bigger and deeper in the tissue and of course they are saying there should be no problem retoring my voice, which by the way I have not had in almost 2 months. They are saying no feeding tube or trac should be> needed. So any advice from you guys would be GREATLY Appreciated.> > Un > .> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Duke you are funny for sure. But then dogs don't learn either this way, dogs are much smarter! Tammatha & Weaver - Duke Stone oleander soup Sunday, April 19, 2009 1:21 PM Re: Re: Throat Cancer Tammatha: Sometime it takes rubbing the dogs nose in it several time before they finally "begin" to understand. Sound like you have that same mentality in a husband. Duke Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone (AT) hotmail (DOT) com --- On Sun, 4/19/09, Tammatha <tammatha (AT) sonic (DOT) net> wrote: Tammatha <tammatha (AT) sonic (DOT) net>Re: Re: Throat Canceroleander soup Date: Sunday, April 19, 2009, 3:12 PM Duke you sound like you go through what I do at home. My hubby eats very unhealthy and I too have gone raw vegan as you have and it is a challenge living with someone who is not on the same page. What a challenge! Tammatha - Duke Stone oleander soup Sunday, April 19, 2009 3:35 AM Re: Re: Throat Cancer Pam Books have become very important to me and the Dallas library has been invaluable but many of the books a filled with information that is wrong. Like Patrick Quillon' s - Beating Cancer with Nutrition which is pure garbage and most of the otheres still don't catch on to the fact that once the foods cell wall is broken with heating/cooking it turns into a simple carbohydrate that our bodies convert to sugar and fat immediately. It took me a while to work through that but after about 300 books I can tell you that the key is the raw organic or at least good looking vegetables is the basis along with getting what you do eat out the other end. My biggist challenge had been Carol's inability to stop feeding me the wrong stuff. I do all of my own shopping now and prepare 95% of my meals seperately. This has only been for the last six months and it has made a big differents and she hates it and has become very defensive about the subject and the pantry is full of things that are junk, which of course she continues to eat. Do you have access to a good library . Are you getting This free news letter http://Mercola. com ? Email me any time. Duke Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone (AT) hotmail (DOT) com --- On Sat, 4/18/09, shanya_one <shanya_one > wrote: shanya_one <shanya_one > Re: Throat Canceroleander soupSaturday, April 18, 2009, 6:56 PM oleander soup, Duke Stone <dukesdeals@ ...> wrote:>> Pam:> I was diagnosed three years ago with throat cancer and start alternative methods. . I am still here. with no doctor intervention I feel that Tony's approach is very good but not enough to really get a persons attention. I do every thing he suggests. PLUS. I eat no animal anything. All of my veg is raw or dehydrated as per http://carolalt. com and other raw foodists and you can not cheat even a little until you know you have on. I didn't do everything I am doing now when I was first diagnosed and mine got out of control.> > Every day I work the Internet looking for more answers but this is a great place to start. I have lost my ability to speak right now but you can call my wife Carol for info any time during the day and after 10 AM at 214-823-9827 > > > Thank you for the offer of being able to call and talk to your wife, but I also have no voice, I haven not been able to do more than a very soft whisper for about 2 months now. After losing my voice for a week, thinking it was just larengitis I finally went to the doc and then was seeing specialists and was informed at that time I had a tumor. I have been doing a Yogi's Detox tea to clean my liver that was one of the first things I did. I also have been doing Dr Schultz's super food, altho I have been doing the superfood off and on for the last couple years. I went and got a coffee grinder as I have a gallon of organic flaxseed, that way I can do the cottage cheese and linseed oil. I am awaiting my opc, altho that will be quite a wait. 12 days is a long time. I am still unsure as to where to get the Essiac Tea at. But I will keep looking. Thank you for your help it is so nice to be able to talk to someone who has the same thing as I do.Pam> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Duke> Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone@ ...> > > --- On Thu, 4/16/09, shanya_one <shanya_one@ ...> wrote:> > > shanya_one <shanya_one@ ...>> Throat Cancer> oleander soup> Thursday, April 16, 2009, 6:08 PM> > > > > > > > > Hi I am new to the site. I was diagnosed with throat cancer on my upper fake vocal cords a week ago, so the last few days have been the normal roller coaster ride of emotions. I have been reading your site after seeing your forum on curezone. I sure could use some help. My tumor is not very big as tumors go I guess, and it is stage 2. I guess what I am looking for is any kind of advice you all can give me. My husband is dead set on y doing the chemo and radation, me I just wish I could do it the way you all have talked about here. He said as long as it was caught this early and it is so small he wants me to do it their way, he is afraid if we try it the natural way and it dosen't work that by the time I have the radation, etc, it might be alot bigger and deeper in the tissue and of course they are saying there should be no problem retoring my voice, which by the way I have not had in almost 2 months. They are saying no feeding tube or trac should be> needed. 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Guest guest Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Hey Duke this is a different Pam,from NZ and trying to eat raw.I havnt been able to access so far some free good raw recipes.Do you have any good websites(that arent trying to sell their info)where I can access free recipes.......thanks...Pam NZ - Duke Stone oleander soup Sunday, April 19, 2009 10:35 PM Re: Re: Throat Cancer Pam Books have become very important to me and the Dallas library has been invaluable but many of the books a filled with information that is wrong. Like Patrick Quillon' s - Beating Cancer with Nutrition which is pure garbage and most of the otheres still don't catch on to the fact that once the foods cell wall is broken with heating/cooking it turns into a simple carbohydrate that our bodies convert to sugar and fat immediately. It took me a while to work through that but after about 300 books I can tell you that the key is the raw organic or at least good looking vegetables is the basis along with getting what you do eat out the other end. My biggist challenge had been Carol's inability to stop feeding me the wrong stuff. I do all of my own shopping now and prepare 95% of my meals seperately. This has only been for the last six months and it has made a big differents and she hates it and has become very defensive about the subject and the pantry is full of things that are junk, which of course she continues to eat. Do you have access to a good library . Are you getting This free news letter http://Mercola.com ? Email me any time. Duke Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone (AT) hotmail (DOT) com --- On Sat, 4/18/09, shanya_one <shanya_one > wrote: shanya_one <shanya_one > Re: Throat Canceroleander soup Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 6:56 PM oleander soup, Duke Stone <dukesdeals@ ...> wrote:>> Pam:> I was diagnosed three years ago with throat cancer and start alternative methods. . I am still here. with no doctor intervention I feel that Tony's approach is very good but not enough to really get a persons attention. I do every thing he suggests. PLUS. I eat no animal anything. All of my veg is raw or dehydrated as per http://carolalt. com and other raw foodists and you can not cheat even a little until you know you have on. I didn't do everything I am doing now when I was first diagnosed and mine got out of control.> > Every day I work the Internet looking for more answers but this is a great place to start. I have lost my ability to speak right now but you can call my wife Carol for info any time during the day and after 10 AM at 214-823-9827 > > > Thank you for the offer of being able to call and talk to your wife, but I also have no voice, I haven not been able to do more than a very soft whisper for about 2 months now. After losing my voice for a week, thinking it was just larengitis I finally went to the doc and then was seeing specialists and was informed at that time I had a tumor. I have been doing a Yogi's Detox tea to clean my liver that was one of the first things I did. I also have been doing Dr Schultz's super food, altho I have been doing the superfood off and on for the last couple years. I went and got a coffee grinder as I have a gallon of organic flaxseed, that way I can do the cottage cheese and linseed oil. I am awaiting my opc, altho that will be quite a wait. 12 days is a long time. I am still unsure as to where to get the Essiac Tea at. But I will keep looking. Thank you for your help it is so nice to be able to talk to someone who has the same thing as I do.Pam> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Duke> Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone@ ...> > > --- On Thu, 4/16/09, shanya_one <shanya_one@ ...> wrote:> > > shanya_one <shanya_one@ ...>> Throat Cancer> olendersoup> Thursday, April 16, 2009, 6:08 PM> > > > > > > > > Hi I am new to the site. I was diagnosed with throat cancer on my upper fake vocal cords a week ago, so the last few days have been the normal roller coaster ride of emotions. I have been reading your site after seeing your forum on curezone. I sure could use some help. My tumor is not very big as tumors go I guess, and it is stage 2. I guess what I am looking for is any kind of advice you all can give me. My husband is dead set on y doing the chemo and radation, me I just wish I could do it the way you all have talked about here. He said as long as it was caught this early and it is so small he wants me to do it their way, he is afraid if we try it the natural way and it dosen't work that by the time I have the radation, etc, it might be alot bigger and deeper in the tissue and of course they are saying there should be no problem retoring my voice, which by the way I have not had in almost 2 months. They are saying no feeding tube or trac should be> needed. So any advice from you guys would be GREATLY Appreciated.> > Un > .> Checked by AVG. 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Guest guest Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Pam: http://carolalt.com http://www.rawfoodlife.com/ I think that having a list of good tasting topping is a big help in getting things down and If you have a dehydrator it is a big help for making cookies and crackers. Just search raw foods but be care full most people stuff their books and sites with sugary foods.Which are not good. Remember the body only has 3 grams of sugar circulating in the blood a on time and if you put a load of sugar in you mouth the growth will turn it into food asap. Duke Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone --- On Sun, 4/19/09, Pam Griffin <pgriff wrote: Pam Griffin <pgriffRe: Re: Throat Canceroleander soup Date: Sunday, April 19, 2009, 9:14 PM Hey Duke this is a different Pam,from NZ and trying to eat raw.I havnt been able to access so far some free good raw recipes.Do you have any good websites(that arent trying to sell their info)where I can access free recipes..... ..thanks. ..Pam NZ - Duke Stone oleander soup Sunday, April 19, 2009 10:35 PM Re: Re: Throat Cancer Pam Books have become very important to me and the Dallas library has been invaluable but many of the books a filled with information that is wrong. Like Patrick Quillon' s - Beating Cancer with Nutrition which is pure garbage and most of the otheres still don't catch on to the fact that once the foods cell wall is broken with heating/cooking it turns into a simple carbohydrate that our bodies convert to sugar and fat immediately. It took me a while to work through that but after about 300 books I can tell you that the key is the raw organic or at least good looking vegetables is the basis along with getting what you do eat out the other end. My biggist challenge had been Carol's inability to stop feeding me the wrong stuff. I do all of my own shopping now and prepare 95% of my meals seperately. This has only been for the last six months and it has made a big differents and she hates it and has become very defensive about the subject and the pantry is full of things that are junk, which of course she continues to eat. Do you have access to a good library . Are you getting This free news letter http://Mercola. com ? Email me any time. Duke Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone (AT) hotmail (DOT) com --- On Sat, 4/18/09, shanya_one <shanya_one > wrote: shanya_one <shanya_one > Re: Throat Canceroleander soupSaturday, April 18, 2009, 6:56 PM oleander soup, Duke Stone <dukesdeals@ ...> wrote:>> Pam:> I was diagnosed three years ago with throat cancer and start alternative methods. . I am still here. with no doctor intervention I feel that Tony's approach is very good but not enough to really get a persons attention. I do every thing he suggests. PLUS. I eat no animal anything. All of my veg is raw or dehydrated as per http://carolalt. com and other raw foodists and you can not cheat even a little until you know you have on. I didn't do everything I am doing now when I was first diagnosed and mine got out of control.> > Every day I work the Internet looking for more answers but this is a great place to start. I have lost my ability to speak right now but you can call my wife Carol for info any time during the day and after 10 AM at 214-823-9827 > > > Thank you for the offer of being able to call and talk to your wife, but I also have no voice, I haven not been able to do more than a very soft whisper for about 2 months now. After losing my voice for a week, thinking it was just larengitis I finally went to the doc and then was seeing specialists and was informed at that time I had a tumor. I have been doing a Yogi's Detox tea to clean my liver that was one of the first things I did. I also have been doing Dr Schultz's super food, altho I have been doing the superfood off and on for the last couple years. I went and got a coffee grinder as I have a gallon of organic flaxseed, that way I can do the cottage cheese and linseed oil. I am awaiting my opc, altho that will be quite a wait. 12 days is a long time. I am still unsure as to where to get the Essiac Tea at. But I will keep looking. Thank you for your help it is so nice to be able to talk to someone who has the same thing as I do.Pam> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Duke> Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone@ ...> > > --- On Thu, 4/16/09, shanya_one <shanya_one@ ...> wrote:> > > shanya_one <shanya_one@ ...>> Throat Cancer> olendersoup> Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 6:08 PM> > > > > > > > > Hi I am new to the site. I was diagnosed with throat cancer on my upper fake vocal cords a week ago, so the last few days have been the normal roller coaster ride of emotions. I have been reading your site after seeing your forum on curezone. I sure could use some help. My tumor is not very big as tumors go I guess, and it is stage 2. I guess what I am looking for is any kind of advice you all can give me. My husband is dead set on y doing the chemo and radation, me I just wish I could do it the way you all have talked about here. He said as long as it was caught this early and it is so small he wants me to do it their way, he is afraid if we try it the natural way and it dosen't work that by the time I have the radation, etc, it might be alot bigger and deeper in the tissue and of course they are saying there should be no problem retoring my voice, which by the way I have not had in almost 2 months. They are saying no feeding tube or trac should be> needed. So any advice from you guys would be GREATLY Appreciated.> > Un > .> Checked by AVG. 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Guest guest Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 "I am Grateful" is a fantastic recipe book. It is the name of the best organic raw vegan food restaurants here in Northern California called "Cafe Gratitude" which started in San Francisco. Tammatha - Duke Stone oleander soup Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:09 PM Re: Re: Throat Cancer Pam: http://carolalt.com http://www.rawfoodlife.com/ I think that having a list of good tasting topping is a big help in getting things down and If you have a dehydrator it is a big help for making cookies and crackers. Just search raw foods but be care full most people stuff their books and sites with sugary foods.Which are not good. Remember the body only has 3 grams of sugar circulating in the blood a on time and if you put a load of sugar in you mouth the growth will turn it into food asap. Duke Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone (AT) hotmail (DOT) com --- On Sun, 4/19/09, Pam Griffin <pgriff.nz> wrote: Pam Griffin <pgriff.nz>Re: Re: Throat Canceroleander soup Date: Sunday, April 19, 2009, 9:14 PM Hey Duke this is a different Pam,from NZ and trying to eat raw.I havnt been able to access so far some free good raw recipes.Do you have any good websites(that arent trying to sell their info)where I can access free recipes..... ..thanks. ..Pam NZ - Duke Stone oleander soup Sunday, April 19, 2009 10:35 PM Re: Re: Throat Cancer Pam Books have become very important to me and the Dallas library has been invaluable but many of the books a filled with information that is wrong. Like Patrick Quillon' s - Beating Cancer with Nutrition which is pure garbage and most of the otheres still don't catch on to the fact that once the foods cell wall is broken with heating/cooking it turns into a simple carbohydrate that our bodies convert to sugar and fat immediately. It took me a while to work through that but after about 300 books I can tell you that the key is the raw organic or at least good looking vegetables is the basis along with getting what you do eat out the other end. My biggist challenge had been Carol's inability to stop feeding me the wrong stuff. I do all of my own shopping now and prepare 95% of my meals seperately. This has only been for the last six months and it has made a big differents and she hates it and has become very defensive about the subject and the pantry is full of things that are junk, which of course she continues to eat. Do you have access to a good library . Are you getting This free news letter http://Mercola. com ? Email me any time. Duke Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone (AT) hotmail (DOT) com --- On Sat, 4/18/09, shanya_one <shanya_one > wrote: shanya_one <shanya_one > Re: Throat Canceroleander soupSaturday, April 18, 2009, 6:56 PM oleander soup, Duke Stone <dukesdeals@ ...> wrote:>> Pam:> I was diagnosed three years ago with throat cancer and start alternative methods. . I am still here. with no doctor intervention I feel that Tony's approach is very good but not enough to really get a persons attention. I do every thing he suggests. PLUS. I eat no animal anything. All of my veg is raw or dehydrated as per http://carolalt. com and other raw foodists and you can not cheat even a little until you know you have on. I didn't do everything I am doing now when I was first diagnosed and mine got out of control.> > Every day I work the Internet looking for more answers but this is a great place to start. I have lost my ability to speak right now but you can call my wife Carol for info any time during the day and after 10 AM at 214-823-9827 > > > Thank you for the offer of being able to call and talk to your wife, but I also have no voice, I haven not been able to do more than a very soft whisper for about 2 months now. After losing my voice for a week, thinking it was just larengitis I finally went to the doc and then was seeing specialists and was informed at that time I had a tumor. I have been doing a Yogi's Detox tea to clean my liver that was one of the first things I did. I also have been doing Dr Schultz's super food, altho I have been doing the superfood off and on for the last couple years. I went and got a coffee grinder as I have a gallon of organic flaxseed, that way I can do the cottage cheese and linseed oil. I am awaiting my opc, altho that will be quite a wait. 12 days is a long time. I am still unsure as to where to get the Essiac Tea at. But I will keep looking. Thank you for your help it is so nice to be able to talk to someone who has the same thing as I do.Pam> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Duke> Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone@ ...> > > --- On Thu, 4/16/09, shanya_one <shanya_one@ ...> wrote:> > > shanya_one <shanya_one@ ...>> Throat Cancer> olendersoup> Thursday, April 16, 2009, 6:08 PM> > > > > > > > > Hi I am new to the site. I was diagnosed with throat cancer on my upper fake vocal cords a week ago, so the last few days have been the normal roller coaster ride of emotions. I have been reading your site after seeing your forum on curezone. I sure could use some help. My tumor is not very big as tumors go I guess, and it is stage 2. I guess what I am looking for is any kind of advice you all can give me. My husband is dead set on y doing the chemo and radation, me I just wish I could do it the way you all have talked about here. He said as long as it was caught this early and it is so small he wants me to do it their way, he is afraid if we try it the natural way and it dosen't work that by the time I have the radation, etc, it might be alot bigger and deeper in the tissue and of course they are saying there should be no problem retoring my voice, which by the way I have not had in almost 2 months. They are saying no feeding tube or trac should be> needed. So any advice from you guys would be GREATLY Appreciated.> > Un > .> Checked by AVG. 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