OLEANDER AND CAPSAICIN.

[Guest guest]

Dear Tony.

I dont know how to use this forum , so i will send message here.

Maybe you rememebr my case.

i have sister with brain cancer.

she has III STAGE, BUT TUMOR IS VERY BIG. it came to parts of brain what giveing is very bad side effects.

 

she had radiotherpay too.

 

rignt now , she is very weak. very bad condidtion.

 

all happend after radiotherapy.

 

but i would like to ask other things.

 

i decide to use oleander +ip6.

 

but .. here where i live , i know one perosn who was with brain cancer..

situation was like with my sister.

 

the woman was very weak.

her husband decide to stop chemiotherpy , because wife was with out chance to live after this.

 

he decide to use capsaicin.

 

she only used 5 spoons capsaicin a day ... then she slow was better and better.

 

rignt now ..after 3 years , his wife is ok.

tumor now is very little .. but before was very big.

 

so i want to try to use this capsaicin too.

 

but my problem is .. can mix oleander and capsaicin same time ???

 

the man from who taking capsaicin said , i should not mix. ...

so i dont know what to do....

i dont know what to do.. but my sister has not time to test all in separate time.

 

what do you think .

 

can i mix this therapy??????/

 

mala

[Guest guest]

mala mala,

 

I'm not Tony but I think I can answer this. Yes you can use oleander and capsiacin together... just don't take them at the same time. Wait an hour or two after taking one of them to take the other. There is no reason whatsoever that you cannot use both.

 

Bob

 

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mala mala

oleander soup

Monday, April 13, 2009 12:58 PM

OLEANDER AND CAPSAICIN.

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Tony.

I dont know how to use this forum , so i will send message here.

Maybe you rememebr my case.

i have sister with brain cancer.

she has III STAGE, BUT TUMOR IS VERY BIG. it came to parts of brain what giveing is very bad side effects.

 

she had radiotherpay too.

 

rignt now , she is very weak. very bad condidtion.

 

all happend after radiotherapy.

 

but i would like to ask other things.

 

i decide to use oleander +ip6.

 

but .. here where i live , i know one perosn who was with brain cancer..

situation was like with my sister.

 

the woman was very weak.

her husband decide to stop chemiotherpy , because wife was with out chance to live after this.

 

he decide to use capsaicin.

 

she only used 5 spoons capsaicin a day ... then she slow was better and better.

 

rignt now ..after 3 years , his wife is ok.

tumor now is very little .. but before was very big.

 

so i want to try to use this capsaicin too.

 

but my problem is .. can mix oleander and capsaicin same time ???

 

the man from who taking capsaicin said , i should not mix. ...

so i dont know what to do....

i dont know what to do.. but my sister has not time to test all in separate time.

 

what do you think .

 

can i mix this therapy??????/

 

mala

[Guest guest]

one day i will have heart atack because of all those therpays...

 

i want help to my sister... i wish i can do.. but sometimes i afride mix all..

even i know ... medicine has nothing more so we should try all.

 

thanks for answer

 

magda.

ps.

 

my sister is to weak to use all protocol of Tony.

 

so i will just try control her food, i will give her capsaicine 5 spoons, and 6 capsules of olenader...

 

GOD...

--- On Mon, 4/13/09, Bob Banever <bbanever wrote:

Bob Banever <bbaneverRe: OLEANDER AND CAPSAICIN.oleander soup Date: Monday, April 13, 2009, 1:29 PM

 

 

 

mala mala,

 

I'm not Tony but I think I can answer this. Yes you can use oleander and capsiacin together... just don't take them at the same time. Wait an hour or two after taking one of them to take the other. There is no reason whatsoever that you cannot use both.

 

Bob

 

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mala mala

oleander soup

Monday, April 13, 2009 12:58 PM

OLEANDER AND CAPSAICIN.

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Tony.

I dont know how to use this forum , so i will send message here.

Maybe you rememebr my case.

i have sister with brain cancer.

she has III STAGE, BUT TUMOR IS VERY BIG. it came to parts of brain what giveing is very bad side effects.

 

she had radiotherpay too.

 

rignt now , she is very weak. very bad condidtion.

 

all happend after radiotherapy.

 

but i would like to ask other things.

 

i decide to use oleander +ip6.

 

but .. here where i live , i know one perosn who was with brain cancer...

situation was like with my sister.

 

the woman was very weak.

her husband decide to stop chemiotherpy , because wife was with out chance to live after this.

 

he decide to use capsaicin.

 

she only used 5 spoons capsaicin a day ... then she slow was better and better.

 

rignt now ..after 3 years , his wife is ok.

tumor now is very little .. but before was very big.

 

so i want to try to use this capsaicin too.

 

but my problem is .. can mix oleander and capsaicin same time ???

 

the man from who taking capsaicin said , i should not mix. ...

so i dont know what to do....

i dont know what to do.. but my sister has not time to test all in separate time.

 

what do you think .

 

can i mix this therapy????? ?/

 

mala

[Guest guest]

magda,

Do as much of Tony's protocol as you can. As for the Oleander, remember to start slow, and follow the dosage recommendations on the label.

Tony will be by to help you with the liver cleanse. I believe you mentioned that in her weakened condition she is not strong enough to do the liver cleanse on the protocol.

Also, pay careful attention to the diet portion of the protocol.

I wish you my very best.

 

oleander soup , mala mala <mala_mala72 wrote:>> one day i will have heart atack because of all those therpays...> > i want help to my sister... i wish i can do.. but sometimes i afride mix all..> even i know ... medicine has nothing more so we should try all. > > thanks for answer> > magda.> ps.> > my sister is to weak to use all protocol of Tony.> > so i will just try control her food, i will give her capsaicine 5 spoons, and 6 capsules of olenader...> > GOD...> >

[Guest guest]

hmm

i thinkit will be very difficult to cleanign liver to the perosn who staying in bad.. and is weak

magda--- On Mon, 4/13/09, May <luellamay129 wrote:

May <luellamay129 Re: OLEANDER AND CAPSAICIN.oleander soup Date: Monday, April 13, 2009, 3:41 PM

 

 

 

magda,

Do as much of Tony's protocol as you can. As for the Oleander, remember to start slow, and follow the dosage recommendations on the label.

Tony will be by to help you with the liver cleanse. I believe you mentioned that in her weakened condition she is not strong enough to do the liver cleanse on the protocol.

Also, pay careful attention to the diet portion of the protocol.

I wish you my very best.

 

oleander soup, mala mala <mala_mala72@ ...> wrote:>> one day i will have heart atack because of all those therpays...> > i want help to my sister... i wish i can do.. but sometimes i afride mix all..> even i know ... medicine has nothing more so we should try all. > > thanks for answer> > magda.> ps.> > my sister is to weak to use all protocol of Tony.> > so i will just try control her food, i will give her capsaicine 5 spoons, and 6 capsules of olenader...> > GOD...> >

[Guest guest]

Hi magda,

Tony will be along to offer some suggestions on how to handle this, I am sure.

 

oleander soup , mala mala <mala_mala72 wrote:>> hmm> i thinkit will be very difficult to cleanign liver to the perosn who staying in bad.. and is weak > magda>

[Guest guest]

You should be able to use all three together with no problems that I am aware of. I recommend capsaicin (cayenne pepper tincture) as part of my suggested protocol and highly recommend it to you for your wife too.

 

I take it regularly along with OPC. I think that there is a very good chance that the man who said to not all three together does not know oleander or inositol/IP6 very well.

 

 

--- On Mon, 4/13/09, mala mala <mala_mala72 wrote:

mala mala <mala_mala72 OLEANDER AND CAPSAICIN.oleander soup Date: Monday, April 13, 2009, 2:58 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Tony.

I dont know how to use this forum , so i will send message here.

Maybe you rememebr my case.

i have sister with brain cancer.

she has III STAGE, BUT TUMOR IS VERY BIG. it came to parts of brain what giveing is very bad side effects.

 

she had radiotherpay too.

 

rignt now , she is very weak. very bad condidtion.

 

all happend after radiotherapy.

 

but i would like to ask other things.

 

i decide to use oleander +ip6.

 

but .. here where i live , i know one perosn who was with brain cancer..

situation was like with my sister.

 

the woman was very weak.

her husband decide to stop chemiotherpy , because wife was with out chance to live after this.

 

he decide to use capsaicin.

 

she only used 5 spoons capsaicin a day ... then she slow was better and better.

 

rignt now ..after 3 years , his wife is ok.

tumor now is very little .. but before was very big.

 

so i want to try to use this capsaicin too.

 

but my problem is .. can mix oleander and capsaicin same time ???

 

the man from who taking capsaicin said , i should not mix. ...

so i dont know what to do....

i dont know what to do.. but my sister has not time to test all in separate time.

 

what do you think .

 

can i mix this therapy????? ?/

 

mala

[Guest guest]

One of the theories of the way Capsaicin works is that it disrupts the energy (ATP) production in the mitochondria of cancer cells. Another is that is helps to modulate the flow of Ca+2 ions through the membrane of the mitochondria which is essential for apoptosis (programmed suicide) of cancer cells. The Ca+2 flow is blocked in advanced cancer and apoptosis is thus prevented. Both the mitochondrial ATP production and the Ca+2 flow is controlled by glutathione levels. Researchers thus suggest that while taking Capsaicin, one should not take NAC at the same time as the latter helps the body to synthesize its own glutathione. They have found that NAC inhibits the action of Capsaicin (www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19002586).

 

Marc Swanepoel

 

 

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Tony Isaacs

oleander soup Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:25 PM

Re: OLEANDER AND CAPSAICIN.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You should be able to use all three together with no problems that I am aware of. I recommend capsaicin (cayenne pepper tincture) as part of my suggested protocol and highly recommend it to you for your wife too.

 

I take it regularly along with OPC. I think that there is a very good chance that the man who said to not all three together does not know oleander or inositol/IP6 very well.

 

 

--- On Mon, 4/13/09, mala mala <mala_mala72 > wrote:

mala mala <mala_mala72 > OLEANDER AND CAPSAICIN.oleander soup Date: Monday, April 13, 2009, 2:58 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Tony.

I dont know how to use this forum , so i will send message here.

Maybe you rememebr my case.

i have sister with brain cancer.

she has III STAGE, BUT TUMOR IS VERY BIG. it came to parts of brain what giveing is very bad side effects.

 

she had radiotherpay too.

 

rignt now , she is very weak. very bad condidtion.

 

all happend after radiotherapy.

 

but i would like to ask other things.

 

i decide to use oleander +ip6.

 

but .. here where i live , i know one perosn who was with brain cancer..

situation was like with my sister.

 

the woman was very weak.

her husband decide to stop chemiotherpy , because wife was with out chance to live after this.

 

he decide to use capsaicin.

 

she only used 5 spoons capsaicin a day ... then she slow was better and better.

 

rignt now ..after 3 years , his wife is ok.

tumor now is very little .. but before was very big.

 

so i want to try to use this capsaicin too.

 

but my problem is .. can mix oleander and capsaicin same time ???

 

the man from who taking capsaicin said , i should not mix. ...

so i dont know what to do....

i dont know what to do.. but my sister has not time to test all in separate time.

 

what do you think .

 

can i mix this therapy????? ?/

 

mala

[Guest guest]

Actually, capsaicin (the main ingredient in cayenne pepper) helps

prevent heart attacks. And when someone does have a heart attack, a

teaspoon of cayenne pepper dissolved in a bit of water or a teaspoon of

liquid cayenne/cayenne tincture will stop a heart attack in less than a

minute.

 

As far as mixing things, my protocol was designed so that every item can

be taken - though some should be taken at seperate times with others and

there are a couple of things (alpha lipoic acid and vitamin e) that

perhaps should not be taken in large quantity when one is following the

Budwig flaxseed and cottage cheese recommendation.

 

 

oleander soup , mala mala <mala_mala72 wrote:

>

> one day i will have heart atack because of all those therpays...

>

> i want help to my sister... i wish i can do.. but sometimes i afride

mix all..

[Guest guest]

THANKS, THANKS A LOT FOR ALL INFORMATION , FOR ALL ANSWER ...

 

i wait for ip6 , and for olenader ...

 

and i make at home capsaicin ( habanero + flex oil) ...

 

i hope , i have hope agine...

 

 

thanks agine..

--- On Wed, 4/15/09, Tony wrote:

Tony Re: OLEANDER AND CAPSAICIN.oleander soup Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 2:35 PM

 

 

Actually, capsaicin (the main ingredient in cayenne pepper) helpsprevent heart attacks. And when someone does have a heart attack, ateaspoon of cayenne pepper dissolved in a bit of water or a teaspoon ofliquid cayenne/cayenne tincture will stop a heart attack in less than aminute.As far as mixing things, my protocol was designed so that every item canbe taken - though some should be taken at seperate times with others andthere are a couple of things (alpha lipoic acid and vitamin e) thatperhaps should not be taken in large quantity when one is following theBudwig flaxseed and cottage cheese recommendation.Tonyoleander soup, mala mala <mala_mala72@ ...> wrote:>> one day i will have

heart atack because of all those therpays...>> i want help to my sister... i wish i can do.. but sometimes i afridemix all..

[Guest guest]

what happend now ..

 

my sister is taking steroids ( brain cancer ).

 

so few days ago,doctor found out , that she has high sugar.

 

how i know after steroids often it can happend.

 

sugar is very high is about 400 or 450.

doctor gave her insulin... but sugar still high.

 

i heard that NONI its good to fight with sugar.

 

so my plan is to mix to therpay NONI too.

 

and now im in truble ..

 

can i mix all this ..:

capsaicin, oleander, ip6, noni ,alveo......

 

and i think what i can do yet..

 

before i alwasy knew that cesium is good ... but i afride this cesium..

i heard good is NA DCA ... but i dont know this therpay well.

 

i still wait for my order of oleander...so when i will get it .. i will start therpay.

 

but is noni or alveo disturb to capsaicin or noni ??

or i can use all .??

 

--- On Thu, 4/16/09, mala mala <mala_mala72 wrote:

mala mala <mala_mala72Re: Re: OLEANDER AND CAPSAICIN.oleander soup Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 11:30 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

THANKS, THANKS A LOT FOR ALL INFORMATION , FOR ALL ANSWER ...

 

i wait for ip6 , and for olenader ...

 

and i make at home capsaicin ( habanero + flex oil) ...

 

i hope , i have hope agine...

 

 

thanks agine..

--- On Wed, 4/15/09, Tony > wrote:

Tony > Re: OLEANDER AND CAPSAICIN.oleander soupWednesday, April 15, 2009, 2:35 PM

 

 

Actually, capsaicin (the main ingredient in cayenne pepper) helpsprevent heart attacks. And when someone does have a heart attack, ateaspoon of cayenne pepper dissolved in a bit of water or a teaspoon ofliquid cayenne/cayenne tincture will stop a heart attack in less than aminute.As far as mixing things, my protocol was designed so that every item canbe taken - though some should be taken at seperate times with others andthere are a couple of things (alpha lipoic acid and vitamin e) thatperhaps should not be taken in large quantity when one is following theBudwig flaxseed and cottage cheese recommendation.Tonyoleander soup, mala mala <mala_mala72@ ...> wrote:>> one day i will have heart atack because of all those

therpays...>> i want help to my sister... i wish i can do.. but sometimes i afridemix all..

[Guest guest]

mala mala:

Eat nothing but raw green vegetables Nothing cooked in any way for a few days with olive oil - no vinegar and monitor the glucose -- you may be very surprised with how quickly that number decreases.

 

Does she have her own glucose meter?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Duke

Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone

--- On Sat, 4/18/09, mala mala <mala_mala72 wrote:

mala mala <mala_mala72Re: Re: OLEANDER AND CAPSAICIN.oleander soup Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 3:21 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

what happend now ..

 

my sister is taking steroids ( brain cancer ).

 

so few days ago,doctor found out , that she has high sugar.

 

how i know after steroids often it can happend.

 

sugar is very high is about 400 or 450.

doctor gave her insulin... but sugar still high.

 

i heard that NONI its good to fight with sugar.

 

so my plan is to mix to therpay NONI too.

 

and now im in truble ..

 

can i mix all this ..:

capsaicin, oleander, ip6, noni ,alveo......

 

and i think what i can do yet..

 

before i alwasy knew that cesium is good ... but i afride this cesium..

i heard good is NA DCA ... but i dont know this therpay well.

 

i still wait for my order of oleander...so when i will get it .. i will start therpay.

 

but is noni or alveo disturb to capsaicin or noni ??

or i can use all .??

 

--- On Thu, 4/16/09, mala mala <mala_mala72@ > wrote:

mala mala <mala_mala72@ >Re: Re: OLEANDER AND CAPSAICIN.oleander soupThursday, April 16, 2009, 11:30 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

be taken - though some should be taken at seperate times with others andthere are a couple of things (alpha lipoic acid and vitamin e) thatperhaps should not be taken in large quantity when one is following theBudwig flaxseed and cottage cheese recommendation.Tony---

[Guest guest]

The things you are asking about go together OK.

I don't recommend cesium which you also mentioned. It is risky, even with monitoring, and not as effective as many have been led to believe..

DCA works for a few, at least as part of a protocol. It does not work well by itself in humans. It does work in rats. It's probably not something that will be helpful (unless many other approaches have failed and you are considering it as a last resort)

For the sugar you might consider a water extract of cinnamon. Don't use the cinnamon straight as the amount necessary might prove to be toxic. You can make the extract yourself by simply making a tea from the cinnamon. Keep in mind that decadron and other very powerful steroids given for brain swelling can cause a diabetes which is permanent in nature.

 

Mike--- On Sat, 4/18/09, mala mala <mala_mala72 wrote:

mala mala <mala_mala72Re: Re: OLEANDER AND CAPSAICIN.oleander soup Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 8:21 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

what happend now ..

 

my sister is taking steroids ( brain cancer ).

 

so few days ago,doctor found out , that she has high sugar.

 

how i know after steroids often it can happend.

 

sugar is very high is about 400 or 450.

doctor gave her insulin... but sugar still high.

 

i heard that NONI its good to fight with sugar.

 

so my plan is to mix to therpay NONI too.

 

and now im in truble ..

 

can i mix all this ..:

capsaicin, oleander, ip6, noni ,alveo......

 

and i think what i can do yet..

 

before i alwasy knew that cesium is good ... but i afride this cesium..

i heard good is NA DCA ... but i dont know this therpay well.

 

i still wait for my order of oleander...so when i will get it .. i will start therpay.

 

but is noni or alveo disturb to capsaicin or noni ??

or i can use all .??

 

--- On Thu, 4/16/09, mala mala <mala_mala72@ > wrote:

mala mala <mala_mala72@ >Re: Re: OLEANDER AND CAPSAICIN.oleander soupThursday, April 16, 2009, 11:30 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

THANKS, THANKS A LOT FOR ALL INFORMATION , FOR ALL ANSWER ...

 

i wait for ip6 , and for olenader ...

 

and i make at home capsaicin ( habanero + flex oil) ...

 

i hope , i have hope agine...

 

 

thanks agine..

--- On Wed, 4/15/09, Tony > wrote:

Tony > Re: OLEANDER AND CAPSAICIN.oleander soupWednesday, April 15, 2009, 2:35 PM

 

 

Actually, capsaicin (the main ingredient in cayenne pepper) helpsprevent heart attacks. And when someone does have a heart attack, ateaspoon of cayenne pepper dissolved in a bit of water or a teaspoon ofliquid cayenne/cayenne tincture will stop a heart attack in less than aminute.As far as mixing things, my protocol was designed so that every item canbe taken - though some should be taken at seperate times with others andthere are a couple of things (alpha lipoic acid and vitamin e) thatperhaps should not be taken in large quantity when one is following theBudwig flaxseed and cottage cheese recommendation.Tonyoleander soup, mala mala <mala_mala72@ ...> wrote:>> one day i will have heart atack because of all those

therpays...>> i want help to my sister... i wish i can do.. but sometimes i afridemix all..

[Guest guest]

Hey there,

love this site it is probably keeping me alive. I can go that far in saying since I need the constant reinforcement that I am doing the right thing and to keep trying. i am leaning all the time about new things to try. I found out in early 2007 that i had head and neck cancer when being checked in the hospital in Michigan for stomach pain i had said i had throat infections frequently and was in a little pain there and since my job kept me on the phone talking it was bothersome they said it looks like i needed a tonsillectomy and I had no insurance and could not stop working so i put it off for 6 months also since my new primary doctor had said that i did not have a problem with my tonsils. then a lump appeared on my soft pallet on the same side my right side it was bright red and always burned like fire. i had been suffering from dry mouth for a year by then and drank water at night a lot.i was staying at my

daughters house who had a lot of yellow sack spiders and they had bitten me several times even in the mouth by getting in my water. I don't know but the primary said she wanted a second opinion about the tonsils because i wanted the surgery and sent me to a doctor she recommended, he got a biopsy. He worked with a different hospital then the one i had first gone to and he said it was cancer. i went to another hospital to get a third opinion and you should have seen the wolves compete to get me to their three hospitals for Chemo and Radiation they promised me so much,and best treatment. but I avoided their pleads and later their threats and saved enough money to move back to Florida to be close to my only family of two daughters and two granddaughters. so if i did die like they said i would i could be close to them. after letting the first doctor do a tonsillectomy and removal of my soft pallet and a tumor draped over my breathing

passage, which made me feel better and then i found you. i can't afford much alternative medicine but i try. i changed my diet,no sugar,no white flour or white rice no soy or MSG and just recently got back on blood pressure med cause the pressure was going up to 223 over 110 so now instead of just novasc i also take a cholesterol pill and a water pill and a half of a low dose of Anatol to lower my pulse since i use to take a half of a low dose of zanax for sleeping since i have a hard time with breathing at night and would panic. i found that the atonol does the same thing in different way instead of stopping the rapid thinking at night it stops the Adrenalin flushes and lets me sleep. now i went to Florida hospital and they are after me also. almost kept me against my will twice. which i heard that they will be able to do in the near future in this country. but i told them that since i only get a two

year chance of survival after Chemo and Radiation I would rather try alternative med and maybe more surgery but no one wants to do surgery on my neck and make less money then with chemo and radiation. plus i know it can be dangerous on a 67 yrs old with tumors in my neck glands one large one in front with several small one and a hard one behind my right ear to do surgery so close to the carotid and my jugular.

the new scans now show no new cancer in two years but lesions also on my thyroid and my right hip i had had extreme pain there for a couple of weeks but it disappeared . i have been eating apricot kernels off and on for two years and taking pau d'arco and colloidal silver and others herbs when i get extra money i am retired and get disability both a total check of 674 and my rent in Florida is 600 compared to Michigan 90 so getting extra money is hard i can't find work and volunteer to babysit full time and drive one daughter who lost her license to two jobs. and i found out what the dry mouth is from after much research i am low in potassium which causes dry mouth and i am getting better with it. also thank God for Oleander soup and Hallelujah! I'm in Florida and went out yesterday to cut some i cooked it by the directions and strained it i need to know how to mix it with vinegar i want to make sure that

it means half soup half vinegar if so that is a lot of vinegar. please let me know thank you and god bless you all--- love liz

 

 

 

--- On Sat, 4/18/09, mala mala <mala_mala72 wrote:

mala mala <mala_mala72Re: Re: OLEANDER AND CAPSAICIN.oleander soup Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 8:21 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

what happend now ..

 

my sister is taking steroids ( brain cancer ).

 

so few days ago,doctor found out , that she has high sugar.

 

how i know after steroids often it can happend.

 

sugar is very high is about 400 or 450.

doctor gave her insulin... but sugar still high.

 

i heard that NONI its good to fight with sugar.

 

so my plan is to mix to therpay NONI too.

 

and now im in truble ..

 

can i mix all this ..:

capsaicin, oleander, ip6, noni ,alveo......

 

and i think what i can do yet..

 

before i alwasy knew that cesium is good ... but i afride this cesium..

i heard good is NA DCA ... but i dont know this therpay well.

 

i still wait for my order of oleander...so when i will get it .. i will start therpay.

 

but is noni or alveo disturb to capsaicin or noni ??

or i can use all .??

 

--- On Thu, 4/16/09, mala mala <mala_mala72@ > wrote:

mala mala <mala_mala72@ >Re: Re: OLEANDER AND CAPSAICIN.oleander soupThursday, April 16, 2009, 11:30 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

THANKS, THANKS A LOT FOR ALL INFORMATION , FOR ALL ANSWER ...

 

i wait for ip6 , and for olenader ...

 

and i make at home capsaicin ( habanero + flex oil) ...

 

i hope , i have hope agine...

 

 

thanks agine..

--- On Wed, 4/15/09, Tony > wrote:

Tony > Re: OLEANDER AND CAPSAICIN.oleander soupWednesday, April 15, 2009, 2:35 PM

 

 

Actually, capsaicin (the main ingredient in cayenne pepper) helpsprevent heart attacks. And when someone does have a heart attack, ateaspoon of cayenne pepper dissolved in a bit of water or a teaspoon ofliquid cayenne/cayenne tincture will stop a heart attack in less than aminute.As far as mixing things, my protocol was designed so that every item canbe taken - though some should be taken at seperate times with others andthere are a couple of things (alpha lipoic acid and vitamin e) thatperhaps should not be taken in large quantity when one is following theBudwig flaxseed and cottage cheese recommendation.Tonyoleander soup, mala mala <mala_mala72@ ...> wrote:>> one day i will have heart atack because of all those

therpays...>> i want help to my sister... i wish i can do.. but sometimes i afridemix all..

[Guest guest]

Hi there,

 

So this means that CAPSAICIN is best not taken by someone on the HIV protocol

which includes NAC?

 

Nelly

 

oleander soup , " Marc Swanepoel - PhD " <marcswan

wrote:

>

> One of the theories of the way Capsaicin works is that it disrupts the energy

(ATP) production in the mitochondria of cancer cells. Another is that is helps

to modulate the flow of Ca+2 ions through the membrane of the mitochondria which

is essential for apoptosis (programmed suicide) of cancer cells. The Ca+2 flow

is blocked in advanced cancer and apoptosis is thus prevented. Both the

mitochondrial ATP production and the Ca+2 flow is controlled by glutathione

levels. Researchers thus suggest that while taking Capsaicin, one should not

take NAC at the same time as the latter helps the body to synthesize its own

glutathione. They have found that NAC inhibits the action of Capsaicin

(www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19002586).

>

> Marc Swanepoel

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Liz,

We are glad to have you with us and glad that the group is giving you, not only knowledge, but support. Thank you for sharing your story.

In reply to your question the ratio of apple cider vinegar to the soup is 50/50. Yep that's a lot of apple cider vinegar.

Together with oleander, do as much of the Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol that you can.

/anticancer.htm

You have taken a huge step in correcting your diet. Take a look at th Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol and follow the complete diet recommendations there. You will find the Budwig Diet also included and I suggest that you also incorporate that into what you are doing.

I am not familiar with Anatol. However, what type of cholesterol pill are you taking, and why if I may ask? Statins are actually quite dangerous to your health. And the water pill, what is that for?

Let me leave you with a post that Tony made a while back on another form with regard to what we call The Cholesterol Myth.

I wish you my best,

 

 

The high cholesterol myth and statin drugs are one of the worst scams perpetrated on the public ever.High cholesterol is for the most part merely a marker of other problems, but the problem is not the high cholesterol itself and the way to treat it is not by lowering the markers. Typical mainstream managed illness medicine. Inventing conditions and treating symptoms by trying to force the body to unnaturally suppress it's cholesterol production. There is no surprise to me of lower cholesterol being linked to Parkinsons, and other conditions as well. What do you suppose your brain is largely made of?Do you follow the DASH diet? It has been proven to be effective at lowering cholesterol and is commonly available online.An article in my archives from 2005 is:Load up on fiber and vegetables: They lower cholesterol almost as much as cholesterol-lowering statin drugs, Canadian researchers report. Here's your shopping list: Cholesterol-lowering margarines containing plant fats such as "Benecol" or "Take Control", soy proteins and soluble fibers like oats, barley, psyllium, plus all kinds of vegetables, including eggplant and okra. It's important news for people who cannot tolerate statin drugs because of side effects, writes researcher David Jenkins, PhD, with the Clinical Nutrition and Risk Factor Modification Center at St. Michael's Hospital in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. His report appears in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. Diet Matches Statin Drugs Both the diet and statin drugs can work in cutting heart disease and death. But for many people, changing their diet just hasn't worked well. Since statin drugs have been on the market, it's been hard to beat the ease (and effectiveness) of popping a pill. Newer research on so-called "functional foods" has shown that plant fats (stanols or sterols), soy protein, and soluble fibers found in fruits, vegetables, and nuts all work to reduce "bad" LDL cholesterol. In fact, the FDA has approved these foods to carry a health claim that they reduce the risk of heart disease. Each of these foods lowers cholesterol by up to 7%. Combined, they cut cholesterol nearly as much as the statin drug Mevacor, writes Jenkins. In their study, Jenkins and his colleagues asked 34 adults -- all with high cholesterol -- to try three different diets for one month each. Between diet programs, the volunteers had a few weeks off. The diet programs: The control diet: A very low-saturated-fat diet, which replaced saturated fats with polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats. When replaced in a diet, these fats have been shown to decrease "bad" LDL cholesterol. The components of the diet included plenty of skim milk, fat-free cheese, yogurt, egg substitute, egg white, safflower oil, sunflower oil, and fiber from whole-wheat breakfast cereal. The statin diet: A very low-saturated-fat diet plus 20 milligrams of Mevacor. The portfolio diet: A diet high in vegetables, soy protein foods (soy milk and soy burgers), almonds, and high-fiber foods (from oats, barley psyllium, okra, and eggplant). Fats were delivered from plant sterol and stanols -- naturally occurring substances that can lower cholesterol. After everyone had tried all the diets, the results were tabulated: Portfolio diet and statin drugs had nearly the same results: The portfolio diet reduced LDL cholesterol by 30%, the statin drugs by 33%, and the control diet by 9%. 9 people (26%) achieved their lowest "bad" LDL cholesterol on the portfolio diet. Dietary changes seem to equal the effect of statin drugs in reducing LDL cholesterol. A diet that combines a number of cholesterol-lowering foods may provide an option for reducing mild-to-moderate LDL cholesterol in people without pre-existing heart disease, writes Jenkins.Of course I disagree with the use of soy in the diet - only fermented soy products such as miso, tempeh and natto are healthy and safe. If you want a good substitute for milk, try almond milk - there is a recipe here in this forum that is repeated on my website.Another saved article featuring almonds and parts of the above study as well:Eat almonds and you'll not only lower your cholesterol, but also lose weight. That's the word from two different scientific studies that may turn the lowly almond into the hottest new health food.Eat almonds and lose weightA study published in the International Journal of Obesity compared two groups of people who were placed on a 1,000-calorie-a-day liquid diet. One group also ate three ounces of almonds every day. The other group was allowed to eat a mix of complex carbohydrates that included wheat crackers, baked potatoes, and air-popped popcorn.The group that ate the almonds lost more weight--even though the calorie counts for the two groups were identical. In addition, their systolic blood pressure dropped 11 percent, compared to no change in the other group. Why is this significant? It's long been assumed that a calorie is the same no matter where it comes from. Even though the group eating the almonds consumed more fat, they lost more weight. Their Body Mass Index readings dropped 18 percent, compared with the other group's 11 percent.Why do almonds seem to help us lose weight? In a news release announcing the findings, the researchers speculate that almonds contain a special kind of fat that may not be completely absorbed by the body and instead acts as a barrier to other types of fat.Eat almonds and lower your cholesterolAccording to a study published in the journal Metabolism, a diet high in almonds and other heart-healthy foods achieved a 35 percent decrease in LDL, or "bad," cholesterol in just two weeks. A proven heart-healthy diet that was studied in a control group, lowered cholesterol just 12 percent.It's been known for some time that individual foods, including almonds, oatmeal, and foods high in soy protein, lower cholesterol. Now researchers from St. Michael's Hospital in Toronto, Canada and the University of Toronto led by Dr. David Jenkins have determined that creating a dietary plan that includes all these foods in combination is just as effective as taking cholesterol-lowering drugs, such as statins.The dietary plan that is packed with all these cholesterol-lowering foods is called the Portfolio plan. In addition to almonds, it includes margarine enriched with plant sterols, oats, barley, eggplant, okra, tofu, soy milk, and meat alternatives made from soy. Almonds are the only nut included in the Portfolio diet. They contain vegetable protein, plant sterols, and fiber and are rich in vitamin E."What we didn't know before conducting our series of Portfolio studies is that these foods can achieve such a dramatic cholesterol-lowering effect when eaten in combination--and that it can happen so quickly," said Jenkins in a news release announcing the study, which was presented at the American Heart Association's annual Conference on Cardiovascular Disease Epidemiology and Prevention.Also good for lowering the bad cholesterol:Green TeaGarlicTurmericAlfalfaGingerGuggol (an Ayurvedic herb)OnionsLechthinMagnesiumGreen leafy vegetablesPycnogenolHawthornArjuna (another Ayurvedic herb)Fo-ti (ho shou wu, Polygonum multiflorum)Fermented soy products (as mentioned earlier)Brewers yeastArtichoke leafVitamin CVitamin ESelenium (helps prevent free radicals from attacking LDL cholesterol and turning it into it's oxidized more artery form)NaicinCalciumChromium (boosts HDL cholesterol)Alpha lipoic acid (keeps arteries clear)Bromelain (keeps arteries clear)CarnitinePectinand finally, though parts may be redundant, here is the excerpt from my book Collected Remedies:

High Cholesterol

High Cholesterol• Sure gel apple or grapefruit pectin (jam & jelly stiffener). Take one heaping teaspoon ina cup of hot water nightly before bed. Two acids in the Sure gel help dissolve cholesteroldeposits in the blood vessels. In about a month or less, the bad cholesterol should bemuch lower, and as a side affect, any heavy metals (generally, industrial toxins) shouldbe flushed from your system. Sure gel Grapefruit pectin is 100 times stronger, but tastesawful and oxidizes and interferes with many medications.• Vinegar, apple juice and white grape juice. Mix 1 to 2 cup of apple cider vinegar, fourcups of apple juice and three cups of white grape juice. Drink six ounces every daybefore breakfast. Used very effectively by Pennsylvania Amish families.• Garlic. Is cholesterol's natural enemy. Eat three cloves daily to lower blood pressure,build immune system and guard against cancer.• Pomegranate juice. New studies indicate that pomegranate juice not only appears toprevent hardening of the arteries by reducing blood vessel damage, but the antioxidantrichjuice may also reverse the progression of this disease.• Green Tea. Drink one or more glasses a day. Powerful antioxidant and anti-cancerproperties too.• Turmeric. Found in curry seasoning and plain yellow mustard. Lowers cholesterol,helps guard against Alzheimer's and may help protect smokers from cancer.• Walnuts. Eat a half cup of walnuts every day. Almonds are also good.• Oatmeal. Eat a bowl of oatmeal every day for breakfast. Top with walnuts or almondbits and blueberries.• Cinnamon, water and honey. Take 10 pieces of cinnamon sticks (one inch each).Powder and then boil in five teacups of water. Add a teaspoon of honey and have a hotcup of this mixture every day. From India.• Onion juice reduces cholesterol and works as a tonic for nervous system. It cleansblood, helps digestive system, cures insomnia and regulates the heart action & helps inlowering cholesterol.• Sunflower seeds contain a substantial amount of linoleic acid which is helpful inreducing cholesterol deposits on the walls of the arteries. Substituting oil of sunflowerseeds for some of the solid fats like butter & cream will, therefore lead to a greatimprovement in health & lower cholesterol.• Other good foods to help lower cholesterol: Flaxseeds, soy (due to concerns aboutunfermented soy products increasing the risk for certain cancers, use only fermented soyproducts such as miso and tempeh), lentils, beans, salmon, avocado, spinach and otherdark green leafy vegetables, margarine with no trans-fats or hydrogenated ingredients,other nuts, dark chocolate, whole wheat and other grains.• Omega 3 oils such as fish, borage and flax oil. Lower bad cholesterol and raise thegood cholesterol levels.• Diet and exercise. Essential to help combat high cholesterol. Eat more vegetables andfruit and less meat and fatty foods. Find a way to be physically active each day, if onlyfor a brisk walk, bike ride or 15-30 minute light workout.

 

If you live a good healthy lifestyle that includes a healthy diet and exercise, then you should not really worry about the cholesterol markers unless they are through the roof.

 

[Guest guest]

Hi May,

 

I am so thankful for all the fantastic information, Im stoked about all the new info on remedies for lowering my cholesterol i had always refused to take pills for it i have had high cholestrol all my life and high glysiderides. but when i had breathing problems latley and they saw how high my blood pressure was they scared me and insisted i would die that day of a stroke if i refused i was beginning to black out even so i listened but noticed that my pressure went done before i started the pills they are called Simvastatin and the water pill was for edema called spironolactone and i told the doc that i didn't like water pills cause when i was young they had given it to me with diet pills and i got stomach pains so this is funny she tried to tell me Spironolactone was not a water pill. i swear she realy didn't know it was she said it was a blood pressure pill even the Pharmacist agreed with me i found that a lot of these young doctors know a

lot less then we do. Wish we were back in the day of the good old horse doctors. but i totally agree that they are harmfull and i was not going to stay on them just to maybe unclog an artery that may have caused me to go so high.the other was Atenolol which is probably not good either but i have had a lot of stress all my life and too much cortesol and now when i feel pain i over react and get anxiety and a half of 25 mg seems to relax me so i can sleep. it is a blood pressure pill that is actually dangerous if it drops your pressure too low too fast.

I can't wait to try these new foods. i will put your letter on my desktop and make sure i find out more about them and start right away. i bought the vinegar and will keep you informed on how that goes.i dont want to combine the pills with the oleander. the norvasc i took 20 yrs ago and it was the only blood pressure pill that greed with me but now i read that in studies they found that people with cancer taking norvasc had more increased cancer then people not taking it. going to bed now thanx again will write soon. love--Liz--- On Mon, 4/20/09, May <luellamay129 wrote:

May <luellamay129 Re: OLEANDER AND CAPSAICIN.oleander soup Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 10:20 PM

 

 

 

Hi Liz,

We are glad to have you with us and glad that the group is giving you, not only knowledge, but support. Thank you for sharing your story.

In reply to your question the ratio of apple cider vinegar to the soup is 50/50. Yep that's a lot of apple cider vinegar.

Together with oleander, do as much of the Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol that you can.

http://www.tbyil. com/anticancer. htm

You have taken a huge step in correcting your diet. Take a look at th Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol and follow the complete diet recommendations there. You will find the Budwig Diet also included and I suggest that you also incorporate that into what you are doing.

I am not familiar with Anatol. However, what type of cholesterol pill are you taking, and why if I may ask? Statins are actually quite dangerous to your health. And the water pill, what is that for?

Let me leave you with a post that Tony made a while back on another form with regard to what we call The Cholesterol Myth.

I wish you my best,

 

 

The high cholesterol myth and statin drugs are one of the worst scams perpetrated on the public ever.High cholesterol is for the most part merely a marker of other problems, but the problem is not the high cholesterol itself and the way to treat it is not by lowering the markers. Typical mainstream managed illness medicine. Inventing conditions and treating symptoms by trying to force the body to unnaturally suppress it's cholesterol production. There is no surprise to me of lower cholesterol being linked to Parkinsons, and other conditions as well. What do you suppose your brain is largely made of?Do you follow the DASH diet? It has been proven to be effective at lowering cholesterol and is commonly available online.An

article in my archives from 2005 is:Load up on fiber and vegetables: They lower cholesterol almost as much as cholesterol- lowering statin drugs, Canadian researchers report. Here's your shopping list: Cholesterol- lowering margarines containing plant fats such as "Benecol" or "Take Control", soy proteins and soluble fibers like oats, barley, psyllium, plus all kinds of vegetables, including eggplant and okra. It's important news for people who cannot tolerate statin drugs because of side effects, writes researcher David Jenkins, PhD, with the Clinical Nutrition and Risk Factor

Modification Center at St. Michael's Hospital in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. His report appears in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. Diet Matches Statin Drugs Both the diet and statin drugs can work in cutting heart disease and death. But for many people, changing their diet just hasn't worked well. Since statin drugs have been on the market, it's been hard to beat the ease (and effectiveness) of popping a pill. Newer research on so-called "functional foods" has shown that plant fats (stanols or sterols), soy protein, and soluble fibers found in fruits, vegetables, and nuts all work to reduce "bad" LDL cholesterol. In fact, the FDA has approved these foods to carry a health claim that they reduce the risk of heart disease. Each of these foods lowers cholesterol by up to 7%. Combined, they cut cholesterol nearly as much as the statin drug Mevacor, writes Jenkins. In their study, Jenkins and his colleagues asked 34 adults -- all with high cholesterol --

to try three different diets for one month each. Between diet programs, the volunteers had a few weeks off. The diet programs: The control diet: A very low-saturated- fat diet, which replaced saturated fats with polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats. When replaced in a diet, these fats have been shown to decrease "bad" LDL cholesterol. The components of the diet included plenty of skim milk, fat-free cheese, yogurt, egg substitute, egg white, safflower oil, sunflower oil, and fiber from whole-wheat breakfast cereal. The statin

diet: A very low-saturated- fat diet plus 20 milligrams of Mevacor. The portfolio diet: A diet high in vegetables, soy protein foods (soy milk and soy burgers), almonds, and high-fiber foods (from oats, barley psyllium, okra, and eggplant). Fats were delivered from plant sterol and stanols -- naturally occurring substances that can lower cholesterol. After everyone had tried all the diets, the results were tabulated: Portfolio diet and statin drugs had nearly the same results: The portfolio diet reduced LDL cholesterol by 30%, the statin drugs by 33%, and the control diet by 9%.

9 people (26%) achieved their lowest "bad" LDL cholesterol on the portfolio diet. Dietary changes seem to equal the effect of statin drugs in reducing LDL cholesterol. A diet that combines a number of cholesterol- lowering foods may provide an option for reducing mild-to-moderate LDL cholesterol in people without pre-existing heart disease, writes Jenkins.Of course I disagree with the use of soy in the diet - only fermented soy products such as miso, tempeh and natto are healthy and safe. If you want a good substitute for milk, try almond milk - there is a recipe here in this forum that is repeated on

my website.Another saved article featuring almonds and parts of the above study as well:Eat almonds and you'll not only lower your cholesterol, but also lose weight. That's the word from two different scientific studies that may turn the lowly almond into the hottest new health food.Eat almonds and lose weightA study published in the International Journal of Obesity compared two groups of people who were placed on a 1,000-calorie- a-day liquid diet. One group also ate three ounces of almonds every day. The other group was allowed to eat a mix of complex carbohydrates that included wheat crackers, baked potatoes, and

air-popped popcorn.The group that ate the almonds lost more weight--even though the calorie counts for the two groups were identical. In addition, their systolic blood pressure dropped 11 percent, compared to no change in the other group. Why is this significant? It's long been assumed that a calorie is the same no matter where it comes from. Even though the group eating the almonds consumed more fat, they lost more weight. Their Body Mass Index readings dropped 18 percent, compared with the other group's 11 percent.Why do almonds seem to help us lose weight? In a news release announcing the findings, the researchers speculate that almonds

contain a special kind of fat that may not be completely absorbed by the body and instead acts as a barrier to other types of fat.Eat almonds and lower your cholesterolAccording to a study published in the journal Metabolism, a diet high in almonds and other heart-healthy foods achieved a 35 percent decrease in LDL, or "bad," cholesterol in just two weeks. A proven heart-healthy diet that was studied in a control group, lowered cholesterol just 12 percent.It's been known for some time that individual foods, including almonds, oatmeal,

and foods high in soy protein, lower cholesterol. Now researchers from St. Michael's Hospital in Toronto, Canada and the University of Toronto led by Dr. David Jenkins have determined that creating a dietary plan that includes all these foods in combination is just as effective as taking cholesterol- lowering drugs, such as statins.The dietary plan that is packed with all these cholesterol- lowering foods is called the Portfolio plan. In addition to almonds, it includes margarine enriched with plant sterols, oats, barley, eggplant, okra, tofu, soy milk, and meat alternatives made from soy. Almonds are the only nut included in the Portfolio diet. They contain vegetable protein, plant sterols, and fiber and are rich in vitamin E."What we didn't know before conducting our series of Portfolio studies is that these foods can achieve such a dramatic cholesterol- lowering effect when eaten in combination- -and that it can happen so quickly," said Jenkins in a news release announcing the study, which was presented at the American Heart Association' s annual Conference on Cardiovascular Disease Epidemiology and Prevention.Also good for lowering the bad cholesterol:Green TeaGarlicTurmericAlfalfaGingerGuggol (an Ayurvedic herb)OnionsLechthinMagnesiumGreen leafy vegetablesPycnogenolHawthornArjuna (another Ayurvedic herb)Fo-ti (ho shou wu, Polygonum

multiflorum)Fermented soy products (as mentioned earlier)Brewers yeastArtichoke leafVitamin CVitamin ESelenium (helps prevent free radicals from attacking LDL cholesterol and turning it into it's oxidized more artery form)NaicinCalciumChromium (boosts HDL cholesterol)Alpha lipoic acid (keeps arteries clear)Bromelain (keeps arteries clear)CarnitinePectinand finally, though parts may be redundant, here is the excerpt from my book Collected Remedies:

High Cholesterol

High Cholesterol• Sure gel apple or grapefruit pectin (jam & jelly stiffener). Take one heaping teaspoon ina cup of hot water nightly before bed. Two acids in the Sure gel help dissolve cholesteroldeposits in the blood vessels. In about a month or less, the bad cholesterol should bemuch lower, and as a side affect, any heavy metals (generally, industrial toxins) shouldbe flushed from your system. Sure gel Grapefruit pectin is 100 times stronger, but tastesawful and oxidizes and

interferes with many medications.• Vinegar, apple juice and white grape juice. Mix 1 to 2 cup of apple cider vinegar, fourcups of apple juice and three cups of white grape juice. Drink six ounces every daybefore breakfast. Used very effectively by Pennsylvania Amish families.• Garlic. Is cholesterol' s natural enemy. Eat three cloves daily to lower blood pressure,build immune system and guard against cancer.• Pomegranate juice. New studies indicate that pomegranate juice not only appears toprevent hardening of the arteries by reducing blood vessel damage, but the antioxidantrichjuice may also reverse the progression of this disease.• Green Tea. Drink one or more glasses a day. Powerful antioxidant and anti-cancerproperties too.• Turmeric. Found in curry seasoning and plain yellow mustard. Lowers cholesterol,helps guard against Alzheimer's and may help protect smokers from cancer.• Walnuts. Eat a half cup of walnuts every day. Almonds are also good.• Oatmeal. Eat a bowl of oatmeal every day for breakfast. Top with walnuts or almondbits and blueberries.• Cinnamon, water and honey. Take 10 pieces of cinnamon sticks (one inch each).Powder and then boil in five teacups of water. Add a teaspoon of honey and have a hotcup of this mixture every day. From India.• Onion juice reduces cholesterol and works as a tonic for nervous system. It cleansblood, helps digestive system, cures insomnia and regulates the heart action

& helps inlowering cholesterol.• Sunflower seeds contain a substantial amount of linoleic acid which is helpful inreducing cholesterol deposits on the walls of the arteries. Substituting oil of sunflowerseeds for some of the solid fats like butter & cream will, therefore lead to a greatimprovement in health & lower cholesterol.• Other good foods to help lower cholesterol: Flaxseeds, soy (due to concerns aboutunfermented soy products increasing the

risk for certain cancers, use only fermented soyproducts such as miso and tempeh), lentils, beans, salmon, avocado, spinach and otherdark green leafy vegetables, margarine with no trans-fats or hydrogenated ingredients,other nuts, dark chocolate, whole wheat and other grains.• Omega 3 oils such as fish, borage and flax oil. Lower bad cholesterol and raise thegood cholesterol levels.• Diet and exercise. Essential to help combat high cholesterol. Eat more vegetables andfruit and less meat and fatty foods. Find a way to be physically active each day, if onlyfor a brisk walk, bike ride or 15-30 minute light workout.

 

If you live a good healthy lifestyle that includes a healthy diet and exercise, then you should not really worry about the cholesterol markers unless they are through the roof.

 

[Guest guest]

i need some info...its possible to buy any capsaicine in capsul there..

becasue my sister has some problem an

she cant drink spacy oil.

 

here we make capsaicin : flex oil+ chili ( habanero ) we mix this , and drink this oil.. its very very hot.

for now my sister cant drink this..

so maybe anywhere is possible to buy capsaicin in capsul.

 

mala--- On Mon, 4/20/09, May <luellamay129 wrote:

May <luellamay129 Re: OLEANDER AND CAPSAICIN.oleander soup Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 3:20 PM

 

 

 

Hi Liz,

We are glad to have you with us and glad that the group is giving you, not only knowledge, but support. Thank you for sharing your story.

In reply to your question the ratio of apple cider vinegar to the soup is 50/50. Yep that's a lot of apple cider vinegar.

Together with oleander, do as much of the Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol that you can.

http://www.tbyil. com/anticancer. htm

You have taken a huge step in correcting your diet. Take a look at th Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol and follow the complete diet recommendations there. You will find the Budwig Diet also included and I suggest that you also incorporate that into what you are doing.

I am not familiar with Anatol. However, what type of cholesterol pill are you taking, and why if I may ask? Statins are actually quite dangerous to your health. And the water pill, what is that for?

Let me leave you with a post that Tony made a while back on another form with regard to what we call The Cholesterol Myth.

I wish you my best,

 

 

The high cholesterol myth and statin drugs are one of the worst scams perpetrated on the public ever.High cholesterol is for the most part merely a marker of other problems, but the problem is not the high cholesterol itself and the way to treat it is not by lowering the markers. Typical mainstream managed illness medicine. Inventing conditions and treating symptoms by trying to force the body to unnaturally suppress it's cholesterol production. There is no surprise to me of lower cholesterol being linked to Parkinsons, and other conditions as well. What do you suppose your brain is largely made of?Do you follow the DASH diet? It has been proven to be effective at lowering cholesterol and is commonly available online.An

article in my archives from 2005 is:Load up on fiber and vegetables: They lower cholesterol almost as much as cholesterol- lowering statin drugs, Canadian researchers report. Here's your shopping list: Cholesterol- lowering margarines containing plant fats such as "Benecol" or "Take Control", soy proteins and soluble fibers like oats, barley, psyllium, plus all kinds of vegetables, including eggplant and okra. It's important news for people who cannot tolerate statin drugs because of side effects, writes researcher David Jenkins, PhD, with the Clinical Nutrition and Risk Factor

Modification Center at St. Michael's Hospital in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. His report appears in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. Diet Matches Statin Drugs Both the diet and statin drugs can work in cutting heart disease and death. But for many people, changing their diet just hasn't worked well. Since statin drugs have been on the market, it's been hard to beat the ease (and effectiveness) of popping a pill. Newer research on so-called "functional foods" has shown that plant fats (stanols or sterols), soy protein, and soluble fibers found in fruits, vegetables, and nuts all work to reduce "bad" LDL cholesterol. In fact, the FDA has approved these foods to carry a health claim that they reduce the risk of heart disease. Each of these foods lowers cholesterol by up to 7%. Combined, they cut cholesterol nearly as much as the statin drug Mevacor, writes Jenkins. In their study, Jenkins and his colleagues asked 34 adults -- all with high cholesterol --

to try three different diets for one month each. Between diet programs, the volunteers had a few weeks off. The diet programs: The control diet: A very low-saturated- fat diet, which replaced saturated fats with polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats. When replaced in a diet, these fats have been shown to decrease "bad" LDL cholesterol. The components of the diet included plenty of skim milk, fat-free cheese, yogurt, egg substitute, egg white, safflower oil, sunflower oil, and fiber from whole-wheat breakfast cereal. The statin

diet: A very low-saturated- fat diet plus 20 milligrams of Mevacor. The portfolio diet: A diet high in vegetables, soy protein foods (soy milk and soy burgers), almonds, and high-fiber foods (from oats, barley psyllium, okra, and eggplant). Fats were delivered from plant sterol and stanols -- naturally occurring substances that can lower cholesterol. After everyone had tried all the diets, the results were tabulated: Portfolio diet and statin drugs had nearly the same results: The portfolio diet reduced LDL cholesterol by 30%, the statin drugs by 33%, and the control diet by 9%.

9 people (26%) achieved their lowest "bad" LDL cholesterol on the portfolio diet. Dietary changes seem to equal the effect of statin drugs in reducing LDL cholesterol. A diet that combines a number of cholesterol- lowering foods may provide an option for reducing mild-to-moderate LDL cholesterol in people without pre-existing heart disease, writes Jenkins.Of course I disagree with the use of soy in the diet - only fermented soy products such as miso, tempeh and natto are healthy and safe. If you want a good substitute for milk, try almond milk - there is a recipe here in this forum that is repeated on

my website.Another saved article featuring almonds and parts of the above study as well:Eat almonds and you'll not only lower your cholesterol, but also lose weight. That's the word from two different scientific studies that may turn the lowly almond into the hottest new health food.Eat almonds and lose weightA study published in the International Journal of Obesity compared two groups of people who were placed on a 1,000-calorie- a-day liquid diet. One group also ate three ounces of almonds every day. The other group was allowed to eat a mix of complex carbohydrates that included wheat crackers, baked potatoes, and

air-popped popcorn.The group that ate the almonds lost more weight--even though the calorie counts for the two groups were identical. In addition, their systolic blood pressure dropped 11 percent, compared to no change in the other group. Why is this significant? It's long been assumed that a calorie is the same no matter where it comes from. Even though the group eating the almonds consumed more fat, they lost more weight. Their Body Mass Index readings dropped 18 percent, compared with the other group's 11 percent.Why do almonds seem to help us lose weight? In a news release announcing the findings, the researchers speculate that almonds

contain a special kind of fat that may not be completely absorbed by the body and instead acts as a barrier to other types of fat.Eat almonds and lower your cholesterolAccording to a study published in the journal Metabolism, a diet high in almonds and other heart-healthy foods achieved a 35 percent decrease in LDL, or "bad," cholesterol in just two weeks. A proven heart-healthy diet that was studied in a control group, lowered cholesterol just 12 percent.It's been known for some time that individual foods, including almonds, oatmeal,

and foods high in soy protein, lower cholesterol. Now researchers from St. Michael's Hospital in Toronto, Canada and the University of Toronto led by Dr. David Jenkins have determined that creating a dietary plan that includes all these foods in combination is just as effective as taking cholesterol- lowering drugs, such as statins.The dietary plan that is packed with all these cholesterol- lowering foods is called the Portfolio plan. In addition to almonds, it includes margarine enriched with plant sterols, oats, barley, eggplant, okra, tofu, soy milk, and meat alternatives made from soy. Almonds are the only nut included in the Portfolio diet. They contain vegetable protein, plant sterols, and fiber and are rich in vitamin E."What we didn't know before conducting our series of Portfolio studies is that these foods can achieve such a dramatic cholesterol- lowering effect when eaten in combination- -and that it can happen so quickly," said Jenkins in a news release announcing the study, which was presented at the American Heart Association' s annual Conference on Cardiovascular Disease Epidemiology and Prevention.Also good for lowering the bad cholesterol:Green TeaGarlicTurmericAlfalfaGingerGuggol (an Ayurvedic herb)OnionsLechthinMagnesiumGreen leafy vegetablesPycnogenolHawthornArjuna (another Ayurvedic herb)Fo-ti (ho shou wu, Polygonum

multiflorum)Fermented soy products (as mentioned earlier)Brewers yeastArtichoke leafVitamin CVitamin ESelenium (helps prevent free radicals from attacking LDL cholesterol and turning it into it's oxidized more artery form)NaicinCalciumChromium (boosts HDL cholesterol)Alpha lipoic acid (keeps arteries clear)Bromelain (keeps arteries clear)CarnitinePectinand finally, though parts may be redundant, here is the excerpt from my book Collected Remedies:

High Cholesterol

High Cholesterol• Sure gel apple or grapefruit pectin (jam & jelly stiffener). Take one heaping teaspoon ina cup of hot water nightly before bed. Two acids in the Sure gel help dissolve cholesteroldeposits in the blood vessels. In about a month or less, the bad cholesterol should bemuch lower, and as a side affect, any heavy metals (generally, industrial toxins) shouldbe flushed from your system. Sure gel Grapefruit pectin is 100 times stronger, but tastesawful and oxidizes and

interferes with many medications.• Vinegar, apple juice and white grape juice. Mix 1 to 2 cup of apple cider vinegar, fourcups of apple juice and three cups of white grape juice. Drink six ounces every daybefore breakfast. Used very effectively by Pennsylvania Amish families.• Garlic. Is cholesterol' s natural enemy. Eat three cloves daily to lower blood pressure,build immune system and guard against cancer.• Pomegranate juice. New studies indicate that pomegranate juice not only appears toprevent hardening of the arteries by reducing blood vessel damage, but the antioxidantrichjuice may also reverse the progression of this disease.• Green Tea. Drink one or more glasses a day. Powerful antioxidant and anti-cancerproperties too.• Turmeric. Found in curry seasoning and plain yellow mustard. Lowers cholesterol,helps guard against Alzheimer's and may help protect smokers from cancer.• Walnuts. Eat a half cup of walnuts every day. Almonds are also good.• Oatmeal. Eat a bowl of oatmeal every day for breakfast. Top with walnuts or almondbits and blueberries.• Cinnamon, water and honey. Take 10 pieces of cinnamon sticks (one inch each).Powder and then boil in five teacups of water. Add a teaspoon of honey and have a hotcup of this mixture every day. From India.• Onion juice reduces cholesterol and works as a tonic for nervous system. It cleansblood, helps digestive system, cures insomnia and regulates the heart action

& helps inlowering cholesterol.• Sunflower seeds contain a substantial amount of linoleic acid which is helpful inreducing cholesterol deposits on the walls of the arteries. Substituting oil of sunflowerseeds for some of the solid fats like butter & cream will, therefore lead to a greatimprovement in health & lower cholesterol.• Other good foods to help lower cholesterol: Flaxseeds, soy (due to concerns aboutunfermented soy products increasing the

risk for certain cancers, use only fermented soyproducts such as miso and tempeh), lentils, beans, salmon, avocado, spinach and otherdark green leafy vegetables, margarine with no trans-fats or hydrogenated ingredients,other nuts, dark chocolate, whole wheat and other grains.• Omega 3 oils such as fish, borage and flax oil. Lower bad cholesterol and raise thegood cholesterol levels.• Diet and exercise. Essential to help combat high cholesterol. Eat more vegetables andfruit and less meat and fatty foods. Find a way to be physically active each day, if onlyfor a brisk walk, bike ride or 15-30 minute light workout.

 

If you live a good healthy lifestyle that includes a healthy diet and exercise, then you should not really worry about the cholesterol markers unless they are through the roof.

 

[Guest guest]

mala,

You should be able to buy capsaicin in capsule form. Do a google search for "capsaicin" and see what you can find.

 

oleander soup , mala mala <mala_mala72 wrote:>> i need some info...its possible to buy any capsaicine in capsul there..> becasue my sister has some problem an>  she cant drink spacy oil.>  > here we make capsaicin : flex oil+ chili ( habanero ) we mix this , and drink this oil.. its very very hot.> for now my sister cant drink this.. > so maybe anywhere is possible to buy capsaicin in capsul. >  > mala> >

[Guest guest]

http://nowfods.com has cayenne in caps.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Duke

Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone

--- On Tue, 4/21/09, mala mala <mala_mala72 wrote:

CAPSAICIN.oleander soup Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 7:28 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i need some info...its possible to buy any capsaicine in capsul there..

becasue my sister has some problem an

she cant drink spacy oil.

 

here we make capsaicin : flex oil+ chili ( habanero ) we mix this , and drink this oil.. its very very hot.

for nowmy sister cant drink this..

so maybe anywhere is possible to buy capsaicin in capsul.

 

mala--- On Mon, 4/20/09, May <luellamay129@ > wrote:

May <luellamay129@ > Re: OLEANDER AND CAPSAICIN.oleander soupMonday, April 20, 2009, 3:20 PM

 

 

 

Hi Liz,

We are glad to have you with us and glad that the group is giving you, not only knowledge, but support. Thank you for sharing your story.

In reply to your question the ratio of apple cider vinegar to the soup is 50/50. Yep that's a lot of apple cider vinegar.

Together with oleander, do as much of the Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol that you can.

http://www.tbyil. com/anticancer. htm

You have taken a huge step in correcting your diet. Take a look at th Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol and follow the complete diet recommendations there. You will find the Budwig Diet also included and I suggest that you also incorporate that into what you are doing.

I am not familiar with Anatol. However, what type of cholesterol pill are you taking, and why if I may ask? Statins are actually quite dangerous to your health. And the water pill, what is that for?

Let me leave you with a post that Tony made a while back on another form with regard to what we call The Cholesterol Myth.

I wish you my best,

 

 

The high cholesterol myth and statin drugs are one of the worst scams perpetrated on the public ever.High cholesterol is for the most part merely a marker of other problems, but the problem is not the high cholesterol itself and the way to treat it is not by lowering the markers. Typical mainstream managed illness medicine. Inventing conditions and treating symptoms by trying to force the body to unnaturally suppress it's cholesterol production. There is no surprise to me of lower cholesterol being linked to Parkinsons, and other conditions as well. What do you suppose your brain is largely made of?Do you follow the DASH diet? It has been proven to be effective at lowering cholesterol and is commonly available online.An

article in my archives from 2005 is:Load up on fiber and vegetables: They lower cholesterol almost as much as cholesterol- lowering statin drugs, Canadian researchers report. Here's your shopping list: Cholesterol- lowering margarines containing plant fats such as "Benecol" or "Take Control", soy proteins and soluble fibers like oats, barley, psyllium, plus all kinds of vegetables, including eggplant and okra. It's important news for people who cannot tolerate statin drugs because of side effects, writes researcher David Jenkins, PhD, with the Clinical Nutrition and Risk Factor

Modification Center at St. Michael's Hospital in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. His report appears in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. Diet Matches Statin Drugs Both the diet and statin drugs can work in cutting heart disease and death. But for many people, changing their diet just hasn't worked well. Since statin drugs have been on the market, it's been hard to beat the ease (and effectiveness) of popping a pill. Newer research on so-called "functional foods" has shown that plant fats (stanols or sterols), soy protein, and soluble fibers found in fruits, vegetables, and nuts all work to reduce "bad" LDL cholesterol. In fact, the FDA has approved these foods to carry a health claim that they reduce the risk of heart disease. Each of these foods lowers cholesterol by up to 7%. Combined, they cut cholesterol nearly as much as the statin drug Mevacor, writes Jenkins. In their study, Jenkins and his colleagues asked 34 adults -- all with high cholesterol --

to try three different diets for one month each. Between diet programs, the volunteers had a few weeks off. The diet programs: The control diet: A very low-saturated- fat diet, which replaced saturated fats with polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats. When replaced in a diet, these fats have been shown to decrease "bad" LDL cholesterol. The components of the diet included plenty of skim milk, fat-free cheese, yogurt, egg substitute, egg white, safflower oil, sunflower oil, and fiber from whole-wheat breakfast cereal. The statin

diet: A very low-saturated- fat diet plus 20 milligrams of Mevacor. The portfolio diet: A diet high in vegetables, soy protein foods (soy milk and soy burgers), almonds, and high-fiber foods (from oats, barley psyllium, okra, and eggplant). Fats were delivered from plant sterol and stanols -- naturally occurring substances that can lower cholesterol. After everyone had tried all the diets, the results were tabulated: Portfolio diet and statin drugs had nearly the same results: The portfolio diet reduced LDL cholesterol by 30%, the statin drugs by 33%, and the control diet by 9%.

9 people (26%) achieved their lowest "bad" LDL cholesterol on the portfolio diet. Dietary changes seem to equal the effect of statin drugs in reducing LDL cholesterol. A diet that combines a number of cholesterol- lowering foods may provide an option for reducing mild-to-moderate LDL cholesterol in people without pre-existing heart disease, writes Jenkins.Of course I disagree with the use of soy in the diet - only fermented soy products such as miso, tempeh and natto are healthy and safe. If you want a good substitute for milk, try almond milk - there is a recipe here in this forum that is repeated on

my website.Another saved article featuring almonds and parts of the above study as well:Eat almonds and you'll not only lower your cholesterol, but also lose weight. That's the word from two different scientific studies that may turn the lowly almond into the hottest new health food.Eat almonds and lose weightA study published in the International Journal of Obesity compared two groups of people who were placed on a 1,000-calorie- a-day liquid diet. One group also ate three ounces of almonds every day. The other group was allowed to eat a mix of complex carbohydrates that included wheat crackers, baked potatoes, and

air-popped popcorn.The group that ate the almonds lost more weight--even though the calorie counts for the two groups were identical. In addition, their systolic blood pressure dropped 11 percent, compared to no change in the other group. Why is this significant? It's long been assumed that a calorie is the same no matter where it comes from. Even though the group eating the almonds consumed more fat, they lost more weight. Their Body Mass Index readings dropped 18 percent, compared with the other group's 11 percent.Why do almonds seem to help us lose weight? In a news release announcing the findings, the researchers speculate that almonds

contain a special kind of fat that may not be completely absorbed by the body and instead acts as a barrier to other types of fat.Eat almonds and lower your cholesterolAccording to a study published in the journal Metabolism, a diet high in almonds and other heart-healthy foods achieved a 35 percent decrease in LDL, or "bad," cholesterol in just two weeks. A proven heart-healthy diet that was studied in a control group, lowered cholesterol just 12 percent.It's been known for some time that individual foods, including almonds, oatmeal,

and foods high in soy protein, lower cholesterol. Now researchers from St. Michael's Hospital in Toronto, Canada and the University of Toronto led by Dr. David Jenkins have determined that creating a dietary plan that includes all these foods in combination is just as effective as taking cholesterol- lowering drugs, such as statins.The dietary plan that is packed with all these cholesterol- lowering foods is called the Portfolio plan. In addition to almonds, it includes margarine enriched with plant sterols, oats, barley, eggplant, okra, tofu, soy milk, and meat alternatives made from soy. Almonds are the only nut included in the Portfolio diet. They contain vegetable protein, plant sterols, and fiber and are rich in vitamin E."What we didn't know before conducting our series of Portfolio studies is that these foods can achieve such a dramatic cholesterol- lowering effect when eaten in combination- -and that it can happen so quickly," said Jenkins in a news release announcing the study, which was presented at the American Heart Association' s annual Conference on Cardiovascular Disease Epidemiology and Prevention.Also good for lowering the bad cholesterol:Green TeaGarlicTurmericAlfalfaGingerGuggol (an Ayurvedic herb)OnionsLechthinMagnesiumGreen leafy vegetablesPycnogenolHawthornArjuna (another Ayurvedic herb)Fo-ti (ho shou wu, Polygonum

multiflorum)Fermented soy products (as mentioned earlier)Brewers yeastArtichoke leafVitamin CVitamin ESelenium (helps prevent free radicals from attacking LDL cholesterol and turning it into it's oxidized more artery form)NaicinCalciumChromium (boosts HDL cholesterol)Alpha lipoic acid (keeps arteries clear)Bromelain (keeps arteries clear)CarnitinePectinand finally, though parts may be redundant, here is the excerpt from my book Collected Remedies:

High Cholesterol

High Cholesterol• Sure gel apple or grapefruit pectin (jam & jelly stiffener). Take one heaping teaspoon ina cup of hot water nightly before bed. Two acids in the Sure gel help dissolve cholesteroldeposits in the blood vessels. In about a month or less, the bad cholesterol should bemuch lower, and as a side affect, any heavy metals (generally, industrial toxins) shouldbe flushed from your system. Sure gel Grapefruit pectin is 100 times stronger, but tastesawful and oxidizes and

interferes with many medications.• Vinegar, apple juice and white grape juice. Mix 1 to 2 cup of apple cider vinegar, fourcups of apple juice and three cups of white grape juice. Drink six ounces every daybefore breakfast. Used very effectively by Pennsylvania Amish families.• Garlic. Is cholesterol' s natural enemy. Eat three cloves daily to lower blood pressure,build immune system and guard against cancer.• Pomegranate juice. New studies indicate that pomegranate juice not only appears toprevent hardening of the arteries by reducing blood vessel damage, but the antioxidantrichjuice may also reverse the progression of this disease.• Green Tea. Drink one or more glasses a day. Powerful antioxidant and anti-cancerproperties too.• Turmeric. Found in curry seasoning and plain yellow mustard. Lowers cholesterol,helps guard against Alzheimer's and may help protect smokers from cancer.• Walnuts. Eat a half cup of walnuts every day. Almonds are also good.• Oatmeal. Eat a bowl of oatmeal every day for breakfast. Top with walnuts or almondbits and blueberries.• Cinnamon, water and honey. Take 10 pieces of cinnamon sticks (one inch each).Powder and then boil in five teacups of water. Add a teaspoon of honey and have a hotcup of this mixture every day. From India.• Onion juice reduces cholesterol and works as a tonic for nervous system. It cleansblood, helps digestive system, cures insomnia and regulates the heart action

& helps inlowering cholesterol.• Sunflower seeds contain a substantial amount of linoleic acid which is helpful inreducing cholesterol deposits on the walls of the arteries. Substituting oil of sunflowerseeds for some of the solid fats like butter & cream will, therefore lead to a greatimprovement in health & lower cholesterol.• Other good foods to help lower cholesterol: Flaxseeds, soy (due to concerns aboutunfermented soy products increasing the

risk for certain cancers, use only fermented soyproducts such as miso and tempeh), lentils, beans, salmon, avocado, spinach and otherdark green leafy vegetables, margarine with no trans-fats or hydrogenated ingredients,other nuts, dark chocolate, whole wheat and other grains.• Omega 3 oils such as fish, borage and flax oil. Lower bad cholesterol and raise thegood cholesterol levels.• Diet and exercise. Essential to help combat high cholesterol. Eat more vegetables andfruit and less meat and fatty foods. Find a way to be physically active each day, if onlyfor a brisk walk, bike ride or 15-30 minute light workout.

 

If you live a good healthy lifestyle that includes a healthy diet and exercise, then you should not really worry about the cholesterol markers unless they are through the roof.

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Liz,

Doctors do a great job of scaring you into taking drugs. Let me start with your blood pressure. Cayenne Pepper stabilizes blood pressure and strengthens the entire cardiovascular system. For now, take one teaspoon of cayenne pepper in a "gulp" of juice and drink this. Have something cold on hand to drink. It will not hurt or burn you in any way. It will just feel "hot." If one teaspoon is too much for you, start on a smaller scale and work up. Renee in our forum posted a recipe to make your own cayenne tincture which can be found in the link below. But until it is ready you can use cayenne powder.

http://health.oleander soup/message/13221

Spironolactone is a diuretic, although a weak one. If your physician is not sure what a certain drug is for this should raise red flags. This is exactly what causes serious side effects, health issues, and even death. I may opt to change doctors. A case in point is when my mother was given a blood pressure pill many years ago that she did not need. This is what caused a stroke. It's bad enough taking drugs, but even worse when a doctor isn't sure of what the drug is supposed to do. Also, with regard to the edema, do you know what this is being caused by? If it should be due to congestive heart failure, cayenne pepper will be beneficial in healing that condition. Here are some natural remedies for edema, And parsley tea is a very effective cure for this.

Atenolol is a blood pressure pill.

Because oleander extract contains cardiac glycosides it would only interfere with drugs containing digoxin/digitalis and blood thinners such as coumadin.

The common home remedies for water retention or edema are:

• Go into deep water: Exercising in the swimming pool will be an excellent remedy for curing this problem. This is due to the water pressure forcing out the excess water out of the tissues and into the bladder. It is advised to exercise gently in the pool at the temperature of 80 to 90 degrees F. if you are pregnant, avoid water above 100 degrees.

• Avoid diuretics: Though diuretics are effective for the flushing out of excess water in the people with the heart, kidney or liver disease, they can also cause rebound edema. Continuous usage will activate the salt and water retaining hormones and when stopped, these hormones are activated and cause water retention.

• Minimize salt intake: Avoid foods high in salt like hotdogs, burgers, pizzas etc. They contain very high salt content and the fluid released will remain in the body till kidneys have a chance to excrete them which is about 24 hours.

• Exercise continuously: Exercise has been shown to reduce the water retention by flushing out the water and salt through sweating, higher respiration and increased urine flow. If you have been sitting for a long time, walk up and down or climb stairs every hour. You can also try the following exercise: point the toes downward, then raise them up as high as possible which pumps up the calf and foot muscles. You can also raise your hands up overhead.

• Increase fluid intake: Water moves through the kidneys and bladder thus diluting the urine. It becomes easier for the kidneys to flush diluted urine out along with the salt contained in it. Plain water is the best option, since juices, sodas and colas have salt content.

• Sip on the herbal tea: Many herbs are slightly diuretic. Parsley is the best known one. Take two teaspoons of dried leaves for each cup of boiling water and seep for ten minutes. Drink three cups a day.

• Lie down with feet up: Recline with the feet up in the raised position. This will allow the fluid collected in the legs to go to the circulatory systems and from there to the kidneys for excretion.

If these tips do not work or if you have heart and kidney problems consult a doctor. You can also consult a doctor if you have a pitting edema where an indentation remains when you press the skin.

Simvastatin has the same side effects as the other statins. This one is the most dangerous and in my prior work with the elderly I found that complications always arose, sometimes very debilitating. Here is the most important one:

If while taking Simvastatin you experience unexplained muscle pain, tenderness, or weakness (especially if it is accompanied by a fever or feeling of illness), it is important to contact your healthcare provider immediately.

These are other side effects:

 

Headache (3.5 percent of people)

Abdominal pain (3.2 percent of people) A general feeling of weakness, known medically as asthenia (1.6 percent of people) Constipation (2.3 percent of people) Diarrhea (1.9 percent of people) Indigestion, known medically as dyspepsia (1.1 percent of people) Flatulence (1.9 percent of people) Nausea (1.3 percent of people) Upper respiratory infections (2.1 percent of people) Muscle pain, known medically as myalgia (1.2 percent of people) -- (see Zocor and Muscle Pain).

Hope this has helped Liz.

Hugs,

 

oleander soup , Liz Clifton <free2roamliz wrote:>> Hi May,>  > I am so thankful for all the fantastic information, Im stoked about all the new info on remedies for lowering my cholesterol i had always refused to take pills for it i have had high cholestrol all my life and high glysiderides. but when i had breathing problems latley and they saw how high my blood pressure was they scared me and insisted i would die that day of a stroke if i refused i was beginning to black out even so i listened but noticed that my pressure went done before i started the pills they are called Simvastatin and the water pill was for edema called spironolactone and i told the doc that i didn't like water pills cause when i was young they had given it to me with diet pills and i got stomach pains so this is funny she tried to tell me Spironolactone was not a water pill. i swear she realy didn't know it was she said it was a blood pressure pill even the Pharmacist agreed with me i found that a lot of these young doctors know a lot less> then we do. Wish we were back in the day of the good old horse doctors. but i totally agree that they are harmfull and i was not going to stay on them just to maybe unclog an artery that may have caused me to go so high..the other was Atenolol which is probably not good either but i have had a lot of stress all my life and too much cortesol and now when i feel pain i over react and get anxiety and a half of 25 mg seems to relax me so i can sleep. it is a blood pressure pill that is actually dangerous if it drops your pressure too low too fast.> I can't wait to try these new foods. i will put your letter on my desktop and make sure i find out more about them and start right away. i bought the vinegar and will keep you informed on how that goes.i dont want to combine the pills with the oleander. the norvasc i took 20 yrs ago and it was the only blood pressure pill that greed with me but now i read that in studies they found that people with cancer taking norvasc had more increased cancer then people not taking it. going to bed now thanx again will write soon. love--Liz>

[Guest guest]

Hey Duke. I know many people take cayenne in caps, but I don't think it's a great idea. If it's really good cayenne, with the heat units you need to be really useful, having that "explosion" in the stomach when they start to dissolve can upset some people.

 

It's actually better to make your own tincture and take that. Tincture making is EASY and getting use to the cayenne tincture is not, well, easy, but doable. :-)

 

I'm from up north and never even used black pepper on my food, regular table pepper. When I moved here to south Texas I would go into restaurants and have to leave hungry because they put bloody hot peppers in everything!!

 

But then I found Dr. Schulze and realized how good cayenne is for a person and just decided to learn to like it.

 

So I made my hot pepper tinc (don't lean over the blender when you take the lid off because the fumes will knock you back and choke you if you used really hot peppers, as you should--learned this the hard way) and took ONE drop. I danced around the kitchen for minutes, waving my arms and tongue hanging out. But little by little, I've learned to deal with it. I still don't like it, but I can take a dropper full at a time. I point it towards the back of my throat, to make sure it stays off my lips (lips burn longer than inside the mouth), squirt it in and dance just a little. No more flailing arms, or tongue panting. <vbg>

 

So if I can do it, certainly anyone can learn to take full strength, habanerro pepper (the hottest) plus wild chili pequine (which we find even hotter than habanerro, though the books don't list pequines) without a lot of trouble.

 

I would say, this is something everyone should carry with them. Always have a dropper bottle of this in reach.

 

It stops heart attacks and strokes, wakes you up if you get tired while driving, stops bleeding from deep cuts and wounds, normalizes blood pressure, keeps the immune system up and blood circulating. It's great stuff, and so little cost.

 

Here, habs are $4 a pound. Two pounds of this and a $12 bottle of vodka and you have a GALLON of this wonderful medicine.

 

Samala,

Renee

 

 

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http://nowfods.com has cayenne in caps.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Duke

Most health problems are related to fungus in our bodies and the chemically treated rotting garbage we are offered at the Super Markets. dukestone

--- On Tue, 4/21/09, mala mala <mala_mala72 wrote: CAPSAICIN.oleander soup Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 7:28 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i need some info...its possible to buy any capsaicine in capsul there..

becasue my sister has some problem an

she cant drink spacy oil.

 

here we make capsaicin : flex oil+ chili ( habanero ) we mix this , and drink this oil.. its very very hot.

for nowmy sister cant drink this..

so maybe anywhere is possible to buy capsaicin in capsul.

 

mala--- On Mon, 4/20/09, May <luellamay129@ > wrote:

May <luellamay129@ > Re: OLEANDER AND CAPSAICIN.oleander soupMonday, April 20, 2009, 3:20 PM

 

 

 

Hi Liz,

We are glad to have you with us and glad that the group is giving you, not only knowledge, but support. Thank you for sharing your story.

In reply to your question the ratio of apple cider vinegar to the soup is 50/50. Yep that's a lot of apple cider vinegar.

Together with oleander, do as much of the Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol that you can.

http://www.tbyil. com/anticancer. htm

You have taken a huge step in correcting your diet. Take a look at th Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol and follow the complete diet recommendations there. You will find the Budwig Diet also included and I suggest that you also incorporate that into what you are doing.

I am not familiar with Anatol. However, what type of cholesterol pill are you taking, and why if I may ask? Statins are actually quite dangerous to your health. And the water pill, what is that for?

Let me leave you with a post that Tony made a while back on another form with regard to what we call The Cholesterol Myth.

I wish you my best,

 

 

The high cholesterol myth and statin drugs are one of the worst scams perpetrated on the public ever.High cholesterol is for the most part merely a marker of other problems, but the problem is not the high cholesterol itself and the way to treat it is not by lowering the markers. Typical mainstream managed illness medicine. Inventing conditions and treating symptoms by trying to force the body to unnaturally suppress it's cholesterol production. There is no surprise to me of lower cholesterol being linked to Parkinsons, and other conditions as well. What do you suppose your brain is largely made of?Do you follow the DASH diet? It has been proven to be effective at lowering cholesterol and is commonly available online.An article in my archives from 2005 is:Load up on fiber and vegetables: They lower cholesterol almost as much as cholesterol- lowering statin drugs, Canadian researchers report. Here's your shopping list: Cholesterol- lowering margarines containing plant fats such as "Benecol" or "Take Control", soy proteins and soluble fibers like oats, barley, psyllium, plus all kinds of vegetables, including eggplant and okra. It's important news for people who cannot tolerate statin drugs because of side effects, writes researcher David Jenkins, PhD, with the Clinical Nutrition and Risk Factor Modification Center at St. Michael's Hospital in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. His report appears in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. Diet Matches Statin Drugs Both the diet and statin drugs can work in cutting heart disease and death. But for many people, changing their diet just hasn't worked well. Since statin drugs have been on the market, it's been hard to beat the ease (and effectiveness) of popping a pill. Newer research on so-called "functional foods" has shown that plant fats (stanols or sterols), soy protein, and soluble fibers found in fruits, vegetables, and nuts all work to reduce "bad" LDL cholesterol. In fact, the FDA has approved these foods to carry a health claim that they reduce the risk of heart disease. Each of these foods lowers cholesterol by up to 7%. Combined, they cut cholesterol nearly as much as the statin drug Mevacor, writes Jenkins. In their study, Jenkins and his colleagues asked 34 adults -- all with high cholesterol -- to try three different diets for one month each. Between diet programs, the volunteers had a few weeks off. The diet programs: The control diet: A very low-saturated- fat diet, which replaced saturated fats with polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats. When replaced in a diet, these fats have been shown to decrease "bad" LDL cholesterol. The components of the diet included plenty of skim milk, fat-free cheese, yogurt, egg substitute, egg white, safflower oil, sunflower oil, and fiber from whole-wheat breakfast cereal. The statin diet: A very low-saturated- fat diet plus 20 milligrams of Mevacor. The portfolio diet: A diet high in vegetables, soy protein foods (soy milk and soy burgers), almonds, and high-fiber foods (from oats, barley psyllium, okra, and eggplant). Fats were delivered from plant sterol and stanols -- naturally occurring substances that can lower cholesterol. After everyone had tried all the diets, the results were tabulated: Portfolio diet and statin drugs had nearly the same results: The portfolio diet reduced LDL cholesterol by 30%, the statin drugs by 33%, and the control diet by 9%. 9 people (26%) achieved their lowest "bad" LDL cholesterol on the portfolio diet. Dietary changes seem to equal the effect of statin drugs in reducing LDL cholesterol. A diet that combines a number of cholesterol- lowering foods may provide an option for reducing mild-to-moderate LDL cholesterol in people without pre-existing heart disease, writes Jenkins.Of course I disagree with the use of soy in the diet - only fermented soy products such as miso, tempeh and natto are healthy and safe. If you want a good substitute for milk, try almond milk - there is a recipe here in this forum that is repeated on my website.Another saved article featuring almonds and parts of the above study as well:Eat almonds and you'll not only lower your cholesterol, but also lose weight. That's the word from two different scientific studies that may turn the lowly almond into the hottest new health food.Eat almonds and lose weightA study published in the International Journal of Obesity compared two groups of people who were placed on a 1,000-calorie- a-day liquid diet. One group also ate three ounces of almonds every day. The other group was allowed to eat a mix of complex carbohydrates that included wheat crackers, baked potatoes, and air-popped popcorn.The group that ate the almonds lost more weight--even though the calorie counts for the two groups were identical. In addition, their systolic blood pressure dropped 11 percent, compared to no change in the other group. Why is this significant? It's long been assumed that a calorie is the same no matter where it comes from. Even though the group eating the almonds consumed more fat, they lost more weight. Their Body Mass Index readings dropped 18 percent, compared with the other group's 11 percent.Why do almonds seem to help us lose weight? In a news release announcing the findings, the researchers speculate that almonds contain a special kind of fat that may not be completely absorbed by the body and instead acts as a barrier to other types of fat.Eat almonds and lower your cholesterolAccording to a study published in the journal Metabolism, a diet high in almonds and other heart-healthy foods achieved a 35 percent decrease in LDL, or "bad," cholesterol in just two weeks. A proven heart-healthy diet that was studied in a control group, lowered cholesterol just 12 percent.It's been known for some time that individual foods, including almonds, oatmeal, and foods high in soy protein, lower cholesterol. Now researchers from St. Michael's Hospital in Toronto, Canada and the University of Toronto led by Dr. David Jenkins have determined that creating a dietary plan that includes all these foods in combination is just as effective as taking cholesterol- lowering drugs, such as statins.The dietary plan that is packed with all these cholesterol- lowering foods is called the Portfolio plan. In addition to almonds, it includes margarine enriched with plant sterols, oats, barley, eggplant, okra, tofu, soy milk, and meat alternatives made from soy. Almonds are the only nut included in the Portfolio diet. They contain vegetable protein, plant sterols, and fiber and are rich in vitamin E."What we didn't know before conducting our series of Portfolio studies is that these foods can achieve such a dramatic cholesterol- lowering effect when eaten in combination- -and that it can happen so quickly," said Jenkins in a news release announcing the study, which was presented at the American Heart Association' s annual Conference on Cardiovascular Disease Epidemiology and Prevention.Also good for lowering the bad cholesterol:Green TeaGarlicTurmericAlfalfaGingerGuggol (an Ayurvedic herb)OnionsLechthinMagnesiumGreen leafy vegetablesPycnogenolHawthornArjuna (another Ayurvedic herb)Fo-ti (ho shou wu, Polygonum multiflorum)Fermented soy products (as mentioned earlier)Brewers yeastArtichoke leafVitamin CVitamin ESelenium (helps prevent free radicals from attacking LDL cholesterol and turning it into it's oxidized more artery form)NaicinCalciumChromium (boosts HDL cholesterol)Alpha lipoic acid (keeps arteries clear)Bromelain (keeps arteries clear)CarnitinePectinand finally, though parts may be redundant, here is the excerpt from my book Collected Remedies:

High Cholesterol

High Cholesterol• Sure gel apple or grapefruit pectin (jam & jelly stiffener). Take one heaping teaspoon ina cup of hot water nightly before bed. Two acids in the Sure gel help dissolve cholesteroldeposits in the blood vessels. In about a month or less, the bad cholesterol should bemuch lower, and as a side affect, any heavy metals (generally, industrial toxins) shouldbe flushed from your system. Sure gel Grapefruit pectin is 100 times stronger, but tastesawful and oxidizes and interferes with many medications.• Vinegar, apple juice and white grape juice. Mix 1 to 2 cup of apple cider vinegar, fourcups of apple juice and three cups of white grape juice. Drink six ounces every daybefore breakfast. Used very effectively by Pennsylvania Amish families.• Garlic. Is cholesterol' s natural enemy. Eat three cloves daily to lower blood pressure,build immune system and guard against cancer.• Pomegranate juice. New studies indicate that pomegranate juice not only appears toprevent hardening of the arteries by reducing blood vessel damage, but the antioxidantrichjuice may also reverse the progression of this disease.• Green Tea. Drink one or more glasses a day. Powerful antioxidant and anti-cancerproperties too.• Turmeric. Found in curry seasoning and plain yellow mustard. Lowers cholesterol,helps guard against Alzheimer's and may help protect smokers from cancer.• Walnuts. Eat a half cup of walnuts every day. Almonds are also good.• Oatmeal. Eat a bowl of oatmeal every day for breakfast. Top with walnuts or almondbits and blueberries.• Cinnamon, water and honey. Take 10 pieces of cinnamon sticks (one inch each).Powder and then boil in five teacups of water. Add a teaspoon of honey and have a hotcup of this mixture every day. From India.• Onion juice reduces cholesterol and works as a tonic for nervous system. It cleansblood, helps digestive system, cures insomnia and regulates the heart action & helps inlowering cholesterol.• Sunflower seeds contain a substantial amount of linoleic acid which is helpful inreducing cholesterol deposits on the walls of the arteries. Substituting oil of sunflowerseeds for some of the solid fats like butter & cream will, therefore lead to a greatimprovement in health & lower cholesterol.• Other good foods to help lower cholesterol: Flaxseeds, soy (due to concerns aboutunfermented soy products increasing the risk for certain cancers, use only fermented soyproducts such as miso and tempeh), lentils, beans, salmon, avocado, spinach and otherdark green leafy vegetables, margarine with no trans-fats or hydrogenated ingredients,other nuts, dark chocolate, whole wheat and other grains.• Omega 3 oils such as fish, borage and flax oil. Lower bad cholesterol and raise thegood cholesterol levels.• Diet and exercise. Essential to help combat high cholesterol. Eat more vegetables andfruit and less meat and fatty foods. Find a way to be physically active each day, if onlyfor a brisk walk, bike ride or 15-30 minute light workout.

 

If you live a good healthy lifestyle that includes a healthy diet and exercise, then you should not really worry about the cholesterol markers unless they are through the roof.

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

If you mix the capsaicin with whole milk or cream, the fat in the cream will greatly reduce the hotness of the capsaicin. The fat in the cream envelops the capsaicin reducing the hotness effect as you take it.

- Steve

 

 

oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of mala malaTuesday, April 21, 2009 5:28 AMoleander soup Subject: Re: Re: OLEANDER AND CAPSAICIN.

i need some info...its possible to buy any capsaicine in capsul there..

becasue my sister has some problem an

she cant drink spacy oil.

 

here we make capsaicin : flex oil+ chili ( habanero ) we mix this , and drink this oil.. its very very hot.

for now my sister cant drink this..

so maybe anywhere is possible to buy capsaicin in capsul.

 

mala

[Guest guest]

Is your sister taking it with food? Usually it's much easier to get down with food. And maybe not make it with oil, but if you can, make it with cheap alcohol. Here we use cheap vodka, but you can even put it in wine.

 

Taking cayenne in capsules can also upset the stomach when the capsules start to dissolve, so make sure if she tries this to have something in her stomach.

 

Best bet is to start out VERY small, only one drop of your cayenne oil at a time and build up to it. Cayenne is taken to stop stomach ulcers, so it's not usually the cayenne itself that people get upset stomachs over, but because they don't have food, or take too much at once, or don't have the stomach acid to digest food properly.

 

Samala,

Renee

 

 

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i need some info...its possible to buy any capsaicine in capsul there..

becasue my sister has some problem an

she cant drink spacy oil.

 

here we make capsaicin : flex oil+ chili ( habanero ) we mix this , and drink this oil.. its very very hot.

for now my sister cant drink this..

so maybe anywhere is possible to buy capsaicin in capsul.

 

mala--- On Mon, 4/20/09, May <luellamay129 wrote:

May <luellamay129 Re: OLEANDER AND CAPSAICIN.oleander soup Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 3:20 PM

 

 

 

Hi Liz,

We are glad to have you with us and glad that the group is giving you, not only knowledge, but support. Thank you for sharing your story.

In reply to your question the ratio of apple cider vinegar to the soup is 50/50. Yep that's a lot of apple cider vinegar.

Together with oleander, do as much of the Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol that you can.

http://www.tbyil. com/anticancer. htm

You have taken a huge step in correcting your diet. Take a look at th Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol and follow the complete diet recommendations there. You will find the Budwig Diet also included and I suggest that you also incorporate that into what you are doing.

I am not familiar with Anatol. However, what type of cholesterol pill are you taking, and why if I may ask? Statins are actually quite dangerous to your health. And the water pill, what is that for?

Let me leave you with a post that Tony made a while back on another form with regard to what we call The Cholesterol Myth.

I wish you my best,

 

 

The high cholesterol myth and statin drugs are one of the worst scams perpetrated on the public ever.High cholesterol is for the most part merely a marker of other problems, but the problem is not the high cholesterol itself and the way to treat it is not by lowering the markers. Typical mainstream managed illness medicine. Inventing conditions and treating symptoms by trying to force the body to unnaturally suppress it's cholesterol production. There is no surprise to me of lower cholesterol being linked to Parkinsons, and other conditions as well. What do you suppose your brain is largely made of?Do you follow the DASH diet? It has been proven to be effective at lowering cholesterol and is commonly available online.An article in my archives from 2005 is:Load up on fiber and vegetables: They lower cholesterol almost as much as cholesterol- lowering statin drugs, Canadian researchers report. Here's your shopping list: Cholesterol- lowering margarines containing plant fats such as "Benecol" or "Take Control", soy proteins and soluble fibers like oats, barley, psyllium, plus all kinds of vegetables, including eggplant and okra. It's important news for people who cannot tolerate statin drugs because of side effects, writes researcher David Jenkins, PhD, with the Clinical Nutrition and Risk Factor Modification Center at St. Michael's Hospital in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. His report appears in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. Diet Matches Statin Drugs Both the diet and statin drugs can work in cutting heart disease and death. But for many people, changing their diet just hasn't worked well. Since statin drugs have been on the market, it's been hard to beat the ease (and effectiveness) of popping a pill. Newer research on so-called "functional foods" has shown that plant fats (stanols or sterols), soy protein, and soluble fibers found in fruits, vegetables, and nuts all work to reduce "bad" LDL cholesterol. In fact, the FDA has approved these foods to carry a health claim that they reduce the risk of heart disease. Each of these foods lowers cholesterol by up to 7%. Combined, they cut cholesterol nearly as much as the statin drug Mevacor, writes Jenkins. In their study, Jenkins and his colleagues asked 34 adults -- all with high cholesterol -- to try three different diets for one month each. Between diet programs, the volunteers had a few weeks off. The diet programs: The control diet: A very low-saturated- fat diet, which replaced saturated fats with polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats. When replaced in a diet, these fats have been shown to decrease "bad" LDL cholesterol. The components of the diet included plenty of skim milk, fat-free cheese, yogurt, egg substitute, egg white, safflower oil, sunflower oil, and fiber from whole-wheat breakfast cereal. The statin diet: A very low-saturated- fat diet plus 20 milligrams of Mevacor. The portfolio diet: A diet high in vegetables, soy protein foods (soy milk and soy burgers), almonds, and high-fiber foods (from oats, barley psyllium, okra, and eggplant). Fats were delivered from plant sterol and stanols -- naturally occurring substances that can lower cholesterol. After everyone had tried all the diets, the results were tabulated: Portfolio diet and statin drugs had nearly the same results: The portfolio diet reduced LDL cholesterol by 30%, the statin drugs by 33%, and the control diet by 9%. 9 people (26%) achieved their lowest "bad" LDL cholesterol on the portfolio diet. Dietary changes seem to equal the effect of statin drugs in reducing LDL cholesterol. A diet that combines a number of cholesterol- lowering foods may provide an option for reducing mild-to-moderate LDL cholesterol in people without pre-existing heart disease, writes Jenkins.Of course I disagree with the use of soy in the diet - only fermented soy products such as miso, tempeh and natto are healthy and safe. If you want a good substitute for milk, try almond milk - there is a recipe here in this forum that is repeated on my website.Another saved article featuring almonds and parts of the above study as well:Eat almonds and you'll not only lower your cholesterol, but also lose weight. That's the word from two different scientific studies that may turn the lowly almond into the hottest new health food.Eat almonds and lose weightA study published in the International Journal of Obesity compared two groups of people who were placed on a 1,000-calorie- a-day liquid diet. One group also ate three ounces of almonds every day. The other group was allowed to eat a mix of complex carbohydrates that included wheat crackers, baked potatoes, and air-popped popcorn.The group that ate the almonds lost more weight--even though the calorie counts for the two groups were identical. In addition, their systolic blood pressure dropped 11 percent, compared to no change in the other group. Why is this significant? It's long been assumed that a calorie is the same no matter where it comes from. Even though the group eating the almonds consumed more fat, they lost more weight. Their Body Mass Index readings dropped 18 percent, compared with the other group's 11 percent.Why do almonds seem to help us lose weight? In a news release announcing the findings, the researchers speculate that almonds contain a special kind of fat that may not be completely absorbed by the body and instead acts as a barrier to other types of fat.Eat almonds and lower your cholesterolAccording to a study published in the journal Metabolism, a diet high in almonds and other heart-healthy foods achieved a 35 percent decrease in LDL, or "bad," cholesterol in just two weeks. A proven heart-healthy diet that was studied in a control group, lowered cholesterol just 12 percent.It's been known for some time that individual foods, including almonds, oatmeal, and foods high in soy protein, lower cholesterol. Now researchers from St. Michael's Hospital in Toronto, Canada and the University of Toronto led by Dr. David Jenkins have determined that creating a dietary plan that includes all these foods in combination is just as effective as taking cholesterol- lowering drugs, such as statins.The dietary plan that is packed with all these cholesterol- lowering foods is called the Portfolio plan. In addition to almonds, it includes margarine enriched with plant sterols, oats, barley, eggplant, okra, tofu, soy milk, and meat alternatives made from soy. Almonds are the only nut included in the Portfolio diet. They contain vegetable protein, plant sterols, and fiber and are rich in vitamin E."What we didn't know before conducting our series of Portfolio studies is that these foods can achieve such a dramatic cholesterol- lowering effect when eaten in combination- -and that it can happen so quickly," said Jenkins in a news release announcing the study, which was presented at the American Heart Association' s annual Conference on Cardiovascular Disease Epidemiology and Prevention.Also good for lowering the bad cholesterol:Green TeaGarlicTurmericAlfalfaGingerGuggol (an Ayurvedic herb)OnionsLechthinMagnesiumGreen leafy vegetablesPycnogenolHawthornArjuna (another Ayurvedic herb)Fo-ti (ho shou wu, Polygonum multiflorum)Fermented soy products (as mentioned earlier)Brewers yeastArtichoke leafVitamin CVitamin ESelenium (helps prevent free radicals from attacking LDL cholesterol and turning it into it's oxidized more artery form)NaicinCalciumChromium (boosts HDL cholesterol)Alpha lipoic acid (keeps arteries clear)Bromelain (keeps arteries clear)CarnitinePectinand finally, though parts may be redundant, here is the excerpt from my book Collected Remedies:

High Cholesterol

High Cholesterol• Sure gel apple or grapefruit pectin (jam & jelly stiffener). Take one heaping teaspoon ina cup of hot water nightly before bed. Two acids in the Sure gel help dissolve cholesteroldeposits in the blood vessels. In about a month or less, the bad cholesterol should bemuch lower, and as a side affect, any heavy metals (generally, industrial toxins) shouldbe flushed from your system. Sure gel Grapefruit pectin is 100 times stronger, but tastesawful and oxidizes and interferes with many medications.• Vinegar, apple juice and white grape juice. Mix 1 to 2 cup of apple cider vinegar, fourcups of apple juice and three cups of white grape juice. Drink six ounces every daybefore breakfast. Used very effectively by Pennsylvania Amish families.• Garlic. Is cholesterol' s natural enemy. Eat three cloves daily to lower blood pressure,build immune system and guard against cancer.• Pomegranate juice. New studies indicate that pomegranate juice not only appears toprevent hardening of the arteries by reducing blood vessel damage, but the antioxidantrichjuice may also reverse the progression of this disease.• Green Tea. Drink one or more glasses a day. Powerful antioxidant and anti-cancerproperties too.• Turmeric. Found in curry seasoning and plain yellow mustard. Lowers cholesterol,helps guard against Alzheimer's and may help protect smokers from cancer.• Walnuts. Eat a half cup of walnuts every day. Almonds are also good.• Oatmeal. Eat a bowl of oatmeal every day for breakfast. Top with walnuts or almondbits and blueberries.• Cinnamon, water and honey. Take 10 pieces of cinnamon sticks (one inch each).Powder and then boil in five teacups of water. Add a teaspoon of honey and have a hotcup of this mixture every day. From India.• Onion juice reduces cholesterol and works as a tonic for nervous system. It cleansblood, helps digestive system, cures insomnia and regulates the heart action & helps inlowering cholesterol.• Sunflower seeds contain a substantial amount of linoleic acid which is helpful inreducing cholesterol deposits on the walls of the arteries. Substituting oil of sunflowerseeds for some of the solid fats like butter & cream will, therefore lead to a greatimprovement in health & lower cholesterol.• Other good foods to help lower cholesterol: Flaxseeds, soy (due to concerns aboutunfermented soy products increasing the risk for certain cancers, use only fermented soyproducts such as miso and tempeh), lentils, beans, salmon, avocado, spinach and otherdark green leafy vegetables, margarine with no trans-fats or hydrogenated ingredients,other nuts, dark chocolate, whole wheat and other grains.• Omega 3 oils such as fish, borage and flax oil. Lower bad cholesterol and raise thegood cholesterol levels.• Diet and exercise. Essential to help combat high cholesterol. Eat more vegetables andfruit and less meat and fatty foods. Find a way to be physically active each day, if onlyfor a brisk walk, bike ride or 15-30 minute light workout.

 

If you live a good healthy lifestyle that includes a healthy diet and exercise, then you should not really worry about the cholesterol markers unless they are through the roof.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Liz. A good way to lower blood pressure naturally is taking cayenne tincture. You can take cayenne powder in hot water (to help it dissolve) if you don't like an alcohol based tincture. Sort of like cayenne tea. :-) Cayenne regulates the blood pressure--if it's high it lowers it, if it's low it raises it. It's an adaptogen.

 

Another good thing necessary for good blood pressure (and arteries) is vit. C.

 

I would take C to bowel tolerance every day. The cayenne can be taken one dropperful once a day, or a cup of cayenne tea (usually one teaspoon powder in one cup water) once a day. These work together great.

 

Another natural way to lower blood pressure is celery seed. Sprinkle this on your food.

 

Just be sure you are checking your blood pressure daily because you don't want it to fluctuate too much, or drop too fast. The above things will help normalize your blood pressure without too much stress on the body.

 

Good luck,

Renee

 

 

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Liz Clifton

4/21/2009 9:02:35 AM

oleander soup

Re: Re: OLEANDER AND CAPSAICIN.

 

 

 

 

 

Hi May,

 

I am so thankful for all the fantastic information, Im stoked about all the new info on remedies for lowering my cholesterol i had always refused to take pills for it i have had high cholestrol all my life and high glysiderides. but when i had breathing problems latley and they saw how high my blood pressure was they scared me and insisted i would die that day of a stroke if i refused i was beginning to black out even so i listened but noticed that my pressure went done before i started the pills they are called Simvastatin and the water pill was for edema called spironolactone and i told the doc that i didn't like water pills cause when i was young they had given it to me with diet pills and i got stomach pains so this is funny she tried to tell me Spironolactone was not a water pill. i swear she realy didn't know it was she said it was a blood pressure pill even the Pharmacist agreed with me i found that a lot of these young doctors know a lot less then we do. Wish we were back in the day of the good old horse doctors. but i totally agree that they are harmfull and i was not going to stay on them just to maybe unclog an artery that may have caused me to go so high.the other was Atenolol which is probably not good either but i have had a lot of stress all my life and too much cortesol and now when i feel pain i over react and get anxiety and a half of 25 mg seems to relax me so i can sleep. it is a blood pressure pill that is actually dangerous if it drops your pressure too low too fast.

I can't wait to try these new foods. i will put your letter on my desktop and make sure i find out more about them and start right away. i bought the vinegar and will keep you informed on how that goes.i dont want to combine the pills with the oleander. the norvasc i took 20 yrs ago and it was the only blood pressure pill that greed with me but now i read that in studies they found that people with cancer taking norvasc had more increased cancer then people not taking it. going to bed now thanx again will write soon. love--Liz--- On Mon, 4/20/09, May <luellamay129 wrote:

May <luellamay129 Re: OLEANDER AND CAPSAICIN.oleander soup Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 10:20 PM

 

 

 

Hi Liz,

We are glad to have you with us and glad that the group is giving you, not only knowledge, but support. Thank you for sharing your story.

In reply to your question the ratio of apple cider vinegar to the soup is 50/50. Yep that's a lot of apple cider vinegar.

Together with oleander, do as much of the Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol that you can.

http://www.tbyil. com/anticancer. htm

You have taken a huge step in correcting your diet. Take a look at th Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol and follow the complete diet recommendations there. You will find the Budwig Diet also included and I suggest that you also incorporate that into what you are doing.

I am not familiar with Anatol. However, what type of cholesterol pill are you taking, and why if I may ask? Statins are actually quite dangerous to your health. And the water pill, what is that for?

Let me leave you with a post that Tony made a while back on another form with regard to what we call The Cholesterol Myth.

I wish you my best,

 

 

The high cholesterol myth and statin drugs are one of the worst scams perpetrated on the public ever.High cholesterol is for the most part merely a marker of other problems, but the problem is not the high cholesterol itself and the way to treat it is not by lowering the markers. Typical mainstream managed illness medicine. Inventing conditions and treating symptoms by trying to force the body to unnaturally suppress it's cholesterol production. There is no surprise to me of lower cholesterol being linked to Parkinsons, and other conditions as well. What do you suppose your brain is largely made of?Do you follow the DASH diet? It has been proven to be effective at lowering cholesterol and is commonly available online.An article in my archives from 2005 is:Load up on fiber and vegetables: They lower cholesterol almost as much as cholesterol- lowering statin drugs, Canadian researchers report. Here's your shopping list: Cholesterol- lowering margarines containing plant fats such as "Benecol" or "Take Control", soy proteins and soluble fibers like oats, barley, psyllium, plus all kinds of vegetables, including eggplant and okra. It's important news for people who cannot tolerate statin drugs because of side effects, writes researcher David Jenkins, PhD, with the Clinical Nutrition and Risk Factor Modification Center at St. Michael's Hospital in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. His report appears in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. Diet Matches Statin Drugs Both the diet and statin drugs can work in cutting heart disease and death. But for many people, changing their diet just hasn't worked well. Since statin drugs have been on the market, it's been hard to beat the ease (and effectiveness) of popping a pill. Newer research on so-called "functional foods" has shown that plant fats (stanols or sterols), soy protein, and soluble fibers found in fruits, vegetables, and nuts all work to reduce "bad" LDL cholesterol. In fact, the FDA has approved these foods to carry a health claim that they reduce the risk of heart disease. Each of these foods lowers cholesterol by up to 7%. Combined, they cut cholesterol nearly as much as the statin drug Mevacor, writes Jenkins. In their study, Jenkins and his colleagues asked 34 adults -- all with high cholesterol -- to try three different diets for one month each. Between diet programs, the volunteers had a few weeks off. The diet programs: The control diet: A very low-saturated- fat diet, which replaced saturated fats with polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats. When replaced in a diet, these fats have been shown to decrease "bad" LDL cholesterol. The components of the diet included plenty of skim milk, fat-free cheese, yogurt, egg substitute, egg white, safflower oil, sunflower oil, and fiber from whole-wheat breakfast cereal. The statin diet: A very low-saturated- fat diet plus 20 milligrams of Mevacor. The portfolio diet: A diet high in vegetables, soy protein foods (soy milk and soy burgers), almonds, and high-fiber foods (from oats, barley psyllium, okra, and eggplant). Fats were delivered from plant sterol and stanols -- naturally occurring substances that can lower cholesterol. After everyone had tried all the diets, the results were tabulated: Portfolio diet and statin drugs had nearly the same results: The portfolio diet reduced LDL cholesterol by 30%, the statin drugs by 33%, and the control diet by 9%. 9 people (26%) achieved their lowest "bad" LDL cholesterol on the portfolio diet. Dietary changes seem to equal the effect of statin drugs in reducing LDL cholesterol. A diet that combines a number of cholesterol- lowering foods may provide an option for reducing mild-to-moderate LDL cholesterol in people without pre-existing heart disease, writes Jenkins.Of course I disagree with the use of soy in the diet - only fermented soy products such as miso, tempeh and natto are healthy and safe. If you want a good substitute for milk, try almond milk - there is a recipe here in this forum that is repeated on my website.Another saved article featuring almonds and parts of the above study as well:Eat almonds and you'll not only lower your cholesterol, but also lose weight. That's the word from two different scientific studies that may turn the lowly almond into the hottest new health food.Eat almonds and lose weightA study published in the International Journal of Obesity compared two groups of people who were placed on a 1,000-calorie- a-day liquid diet. One group also ate three ounces of almonds every day. The other group was allowed to eat a mix of complex carbohydrates that included wheat crackers, baked potatoes, and air-popped popcorn.The group that ate the almonds lost more weight--even though the calorie counts for the two groups were identical. In addition, their systolic blood pressure dropped 11 percent, compared to no change in the other group. Why is this significant? It's long been assumed that a calorie is the same no matter where it comes from. Even though the group eating the almonds consumed more fat, they lost more weight. Their Body Mass Index readings dropped 18 percent, compared with the other group's 11 percent.Why do almonds seem to help us lose weight? In a news release announcing the findings, the researchers speculate that almonds contain a special kind of fat that may not be completely absorbed by the body and instead acts as a barrier to other types of fat.Eat almonds and lower your cholesterolAccording to a study published in the journal Metabolism, a diet high in almonds and other heart-healthy foods achieved a 35 percent decrease in LDL, or "bad," cholesterol in just two weeks. A proven heart-healthy diet that was studied in a control group, lowered cholesterol just 12 percent.It's been known for some time that individual foods, including almonds, oatmeal, and foods high in soy protein, lower cholesterol. Now researchers from St. Michael's Hospital in Toronto, Canada and the University of Toronto led by Dr. David Jenkins have determined that creating a dietary plan that includes all these foods in combination is just as effective as taking cholesterol- lowering drugs, such as statins.The dietary plan that is packed with all these cholesterol- lowering foods is called the Portfolio plan. In addition to almonds, it includes margarine enriched with plant sterols, oats, barley, eggplant, okra, tofu, soy milk, and meat alternatives made from soy. Almonds are the only nut included in the Portfolio diet. They contain vegetable protein, plant sterols, and fiber and are rich in vitamin E."What we didn't know before conducting our series of Portfolio studies is that these foods can achieve such a dramatic cholesterol- lowering effect when eaten in combination- -and that it can happen so quickly," said Jenkins in a news release announcing the study, which was presented at the American Heart Association' s annual Conference on Cardiovascular Disease Epidemiology and Prevention.Also good for lowering the bad cholesterol:Green TeaGarlicTurmericAlfalfaGingerGuggol (an Ayurvedic herb)OnionsLechthinMagnesiumGreen leafy vegetablesPycnogenolHawthornArjuna (another Ayurvedic herb)Fo-ti (ho shou wu, Polygonum multiflorum)Fermented soy products (as mentioned earlier)Brewers yeastArtichoke leafVitamin CVitamin ESelenium (helps prevent free radicals from attacking LDL cholesterol and turning it into it's oxidized more artery form)NaicinCalciumChromium (boosts HDL cholesterol)Alpha lipoic acid (keeps arteries clear)Bromelain (keeps arteries clear)CarnitinePectinand finally, though parts may be redundant, here is the excerpt from my book Collected Remedies:

High Cholesterol

High Cholesterol• Sure gel apple or grapefruit pectin (jam & jelly stiffener). Take one heaping teaspoon ina cup of hot water nightly before bed. Two acids in the Sure gel help dissolve cholesteroldeposits in the blood vessels. In about a month or less, the bad cholesterol should bemuch lower, and as a side affect, any heavy metals (generally, industrial toxins) shouldbe flushed from your system. Sure gel Grapefruit pectin is 100 times stronger, but tastesawful and oxidizes and interferes with many medications.• Vinegar, apple juice and white grape juice. Mix 1 to 2 cup of apple cider vinegar, fourcups of apple juice and three cups of white grape juice. Drink six ounces every daybefore breakfast. Used very effectively by Pennsylvania Amish families.• Garlic. Is cholesterol' s natural enemy. Eat three cloves daily to lower blood pressure,build immune system and guard against cancer.• Pomegranate juice. New studies indicate that pomegranate juice not only appears toprevent hardening of the arteries by reducing blood vessel damage, but the antioxidantrichjuice may also reverse the progression of this disease.• Green Tea. Drink one or more glasses a day. Powerful antioxidant and anti-cancerproperties too.• Turmeric. Found in curry seasoning and plain yellow mustard. Lowers cholesterol,helps guard against Alzheimer's and may help protect smokers from cancer.• Walnuts. Eat a half cup of walnuts every day. Almonds are also good.• Oatmeal. Eat a bowl of oatmeal every day for breakfast. Top with walnuts or almondbits and blueberries.• Cinnamon, water and honey. Take 10 pieces of cinnamon sticks (one inch each).Powder and then boil in five teacups of water. Add a teaspoon of honey and have a hotcup of this mixture every day. From India.• Onion juice reduces cholesterol and works as a tonic for nervous system. It cleansblood, helps digestive system, cures insomnia and regulates the heart action & helps inlowering cholesterol.• Sunflower seeds contain a substantial amount of linoleic acid which is helpful inreducing cholesterol deposits on the walls of the arteries. Substituting oil of sunflowerseeds for some of the solid fats like butter & cream will, therefore lead to a greatimprovement in health & lower cholesterol.• Other good foods to help lower cholesterol: Flaxseeds, soy (due to concerns aboutunfermented soy products increasing the risk for certain cancers, use only fermented soyproducts such as miso and tempeh), lentils, beans, salmon, avocado, spinach and otherdark green leafy vegetables, margarine with no trans-fats or hydrogenated ingredients,other nuts, dark chocolate, whole wheat and other grains.• Omega 3 oils such as fish, borage and flax oil. Lower bad cholesterol and raise thegood cholesterol levels.• Diet and exercise. Essential to help combat high cholesterol. Eat more vegetables andfruit and less meat and fatty foods. Find a way to be physically active each day, if onlyfor a brisk walk, bike ride or 15-30 minute light workout.

 

If you live a good healthy lifestyle that includes a healthy diet and exercise, then you should not really worry about the cholesterol markers unless they are through the roof.