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i forgot to ask, but i find that my colloidal gold, makes my mouth feeling very stif, for at least 10 minutes, is this normal or should i stop taking it, and thow the stuff out? i take 5ml.

 

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Mary,I have never heard of this. Where did you get the colloidal gold from?Hugs,oleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos" <mary1kon wrote:>> or others.> > i forgot to ask, but i find that my colloidal gold, makes my mouth feeling very stif, for at least 10 minutes, is this normal or should i stop taking it, and thow the stuff out? i take 5ml.> > Hugs Mary>

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I Get it from ahealth food store here in Australia.

 

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Wednesday, January 07, 2009 6:17 PM

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Mary,I have never heard of this. Where did you get the colloidal gold from?Hugs,oleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos" <mary1kon wrote:>> or others.> > i forgot to ask, but i find that my colloidal gold, makes my mouth feeling very stif, for at least 10 minutes, is this normal or should i stop taking it, and thow the stuff out? i take 5ml.> > Hugs Mary>

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Mary,Colloidal gold should not affect you like this. Makes me question the health food store. Is it true colloidal gold? A variation? This causes concern. I would bring it back and tell them what is going on and ask some questions. For sure I would stop taking it.Hugs,oleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos" <mary1kon wrote:>> .> > I Get it from ahealth food store here in Australia.> > Hugs Mary>

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Mary -

Though rare, some people are allergic to gold. Do you have rashes when you wear gold rings or other jewelry?

What other ingredients and/or information does the label on your colloidal gold product contain?

oleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos" <mary1kon wrote:>> or others.> > i forgot to ask, but i find that my colloidal gold, makes my mouth feeling very stif, for at least 10 minutes, is this normal or should i stop taking it, and thow the stuff out? i take 5ml.> > Hugs Mary>

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The product is made in Australia, it's true name is Oxy Min Gold - Plant Dirived Colloidal Minerals.

What makes me thing twice was that, they said to keep in the frindge after you opened, wile with the colloidal Silver they dont say that, but ecually say, not to buy the product if it said on the bottle to refrigirate after opening, so i'm very confused right now, and i'm trowing the gold.

There goes my $ 40 dollars.

 

Thank you .

 

Hugs Mary

 

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Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:47 AM

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Mary,Colloidal gold should not affect you like this. Makes me question the health food store. Is it true colloidal gold? A variation? This causes concern. I would bring it back and tell them what is going on and ask some questions. For sure I would stop taking it.Hugs,oleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos" <mary1kon wrote:>> .> > I Get it from ahealth food store here in Australia.> > Hugs Mary>

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YES !!!!!!!!! Tony I do get a rash if i wear gold chain around my neck, with my rings i have no problems but with chains and earrings i get rashe Galore.

Tony i think you just hit the nail on the head.

as for the ingredients in the product, here we go and dont forget you ask for it LOL.

 

Aluminum- Antimony- Barium- Beryllium- Bismuth- Boron- Bromine- Calcium - Carbon- Cesium- Chlorine- Cobalt- Copper- Dysposium.

 

Erbium- Europium- Fluoride- Gadolinium- Gallium- Germanium- Gold- Hafnium- Holmium- Hydrogen- Indium- Iodine- Iridum- Iron- Lanthanum.

 

Lead- Lithium- Lutetium- Magnesium- Manganese- Molybdenum- Neodymium- Nickel- Niobium- Nitrogen- Osmium - Oxygen- Palladium.

 

Phosphorus- Platinum- Potassium- Praseo- Dimium- Rhenium- Rhodium- Rubidium- Ruthenium- Samarium- Scandium- Selenium.

 

Silicon- Silver- Sodium- Strontium- Sulfur- Tantalum- Tellurium- Terbium- Thallium- Thorium- Thulium- Tin- Titanium- Tungsten- Vanadium.

 

Ytterbium- Yttrium- Zinc- and Zirconium.

 

Now please tell me what you think ? as i'm ready to throw the product away.

 

Hugs Mary and Thank you

 

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Thursday, January 08, 2009 10:46 AM

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Mary -

Though rare, some people are allergic to gold. Do you have rashes when you wear gold rings or other jewelry?

What other ingredients and/or information does the label on your colloidal gold product contain?

oleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos" <mary1kon wrote:>> or others.> > i forgot to ask, but i find that my colloidal gold, makes my mouth feeling very stif, for at least 10 minutes, is this normal or should i stop taking it, and thow the stuff out? i take 5ml.> > Hugs Mary>

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Speaking as a silversmith, it's not usually the gold you are allergic to (though some people CAN be allergic to pure gold, but that's pretty rare) but the added base metal. In the US there isn't any 24k jewelry sold--though Thailand sells it because they use it like money--so all gold jewelry is mixed with other metals here. The lower the k value, the more other metals are in it. Like 14k gold has more base metal than 18k gold does. Plus, our skin is usually more sensitive on neck and ears than on our hands, so any allergy to the base metals will show up there.

 

I personally have "challenges" with 14 k on the right side of my body only! Odd, but not super rare.

 

So you may not have a problem with the gold in your product at all, but with any one of the other metals in it.

 

Samala,

Renee

 

 

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YES !!!!!!!!! Tony I do get a rash if i wear gold chain around my neck, with my rings i have no problems but with chains and earrings i get rashe Galore.

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Bless your heart Mary.I think I'm confused too.First of all, as Tony said, maybe you should rule out gold allergy, as I don't want you to waste any more money.Yet, Utopia Silver does ship overseas. How is your depression doing?Hugs,oleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos" <mary1kon wrote:>> .> > The product is made in Australia, it's true name is Oxy Min Gold - Plant Dirived Colloidal Minerals.> What makes me thing twice was that, they said to keep in the frindge after you opened, wile with the colloidal Silver they dont say that, but ecually say, not to buy the product if it said on the bottle to refrigirate after opening, so i'm very confused right now, and i'm trowing the gold.> There goes my $ 40 dollars.> > Thank you .> > Hugs Mary>

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Renne.

 

What worry's me it's not the jewelery, i dont care if i wear them or not, i worry about the colloidal gold as i was hopping to help with my depression, now what can i do with the product? should i take less and see what happens, stop using it, use it in the garden or for something else, that's the big question ? to many questions and not many answers.

 

Thank you Renee for your input.

Hugs Mary

 

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Friday, January 09, 2009 1:48 AM

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Speaking as a silversmith, it's not usually the gold you are allergic to (though some people CAN be allergic to pure gold, but that's pretty rare) but the added base metal. In the US there isn't any 24k jewelry sold--though Thailand sells it because they use it like money--so all gold jewelry is mixed with other metals here. The lower the k value, the more other metals are in it. Like 14k gold has more base metal than 18k gold does. Plus, our skin is usually more sensitive on neck and ears than on our hands, so any allergy to the base metals will show up there.

 

I personally have "challenges" with 14 k on the right side of my body only! Odd, but not super rare.

 

So you may not have a problem with the gold in your product at all, but with any one of the other metals in it.

 

Samala,

Renee

 

 

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YES !!!!!!!!! Tony I do get a rash if i wear gold chain around my neck, with my rings i have no problems but with chains and earrings i get rashe Galore.

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OH .

 

my depression was doing fine until this thing happen, now i'm depresed again i dont know what to do, take the stuff, not to take the stuff? i'm ready to throw in the towel and the hell with life.

No, No i lied i care what happens i'm just agry that's all, and if i'm allergic to any other metal in the product i can not use gold from Australia or Utopia Silver, so you can see my problem ?

Anyway i'l see what i will do.

Thank you .

 

Hugs Mary

 

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May

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Friday, January 09, 2009 5:54 AM

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Bless your heart Mary.I think I'm confused too.First of all, as Tony said, maybe you should rule out gold allergy, as I don't want you to waste any more money.Yet, Utopia Silver does ship overseas. How is your depression doing?Hugs,oleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos" <mary1kon wrote:>> .> > The product is made in Australia, it's true name is Oxy Min Gold - Plant Dirived Colloidal Minerals.> What makes me thing twice was that, they said to keep in the frindge after you opened, wile with the colloidal Silver they dont say that, but ecually say, not to buy the product if it said on the bottle to refrigirate after opening, so i'm very confused right now, and i'm trowing the gold.> There goes my $ 40 dollars.> > Thank you .> > Hugs Mary>

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Even though you retracted that statement, it was very strong. I am listening. Mary, you are very knowledgeable with herbs. Have you taken herbs for your depression? St. John's WortValerianSkullcapSAMeKavaLots of Hugs,oleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos" <mary1kon wrote:>> OH .> > my depression was doing fine until this thing happen, now i'm depresed again i dont know what to do, take the stuff, not to take the stuff? i'm ready to throw in the towel and the hell with life.> No, No i lied i care what happens i'm just agry that's all, and if i'm allergic to any other metal in the product i can not use gold from Australia or Utopia Silver, so you can see my problem ?> Anyway i'l see what i will do.> Thank you .> > Hugs Mary

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Yes .

 

I have- and still do take all of the herbs you mention , but as you know my depression is mostly weekends and it started after my husbands passing, i lost him on a friday, so every friday something clicks and i go down, i want to scream and cry to the top of my lungs, then logic takes over and i shut up.

I'm lucky though i have this group to come to and forget my problem for little while.

 

Thank you Sweety you are my rock.

 

Love you- Hugs Mary

 

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Friday, January 09, 2009 1:04 PM

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Even though you retracted that statement, it was very strong. I am listening. Mary, you are very knowledgeable with herbs. Have you taken herbs for your depression? St. John's WortValerianSkullcapSAMeKavaLots of Hugs,oleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos" <mary1kon wrote:>> OH .> > my depression was doing fine until this thing happen, now i'm depresed again i dont know what to do, take the stuff, not to take the stuff? i'm ready to throw in the towel and the hell with life.> No, No i lied i care what happens i'm just agry that's all, and if i'm allergic to any other metal in the product i can not use gold from Australia or Utopia Silver, so you can see my problem ?> Anyway i'l see what i will do.> Thank you .> > Hugs Mary

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Mary,Forget the logic. That is depression's worst enemy. You are bottling your feelings up. If you feel like crying and screaming then do it. Let it all out.Your feelings are very normal. Losing a spouse is very, very painful. The loneliness is overwhelming, and it can last for a very long time. God gave us tears for when we are sad. It is important to use those tears if we need to. When we use "logic" and bottle them up, that is when depression surfaces. Believe me, I know. I have gone through this and it is by no means easy. It is the loneliest feeling in the world, yet, I know that it doesn't make you feel better. From the bottom of my heart I am so sorry that you are going through this.Bundles of love to you,oleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos" <mary1kon wrote:>> Yes .> > I have- and still do take all of the herbs you mention , but as you know my depression is mostly weekends and it started after my husbands passing, i lost him on a friday, so every friday something clicks and i go down, i want to scream and cry to the top of my lungs, then logic takes over and i shut up.> I'm lucky though i have this group to come to and forget my problem for little while.> > Thank you Sweety you are my rock.> > Love you- Hugs Mary

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Mary,After having that reaction I would stop taking it for sure. Bring it back to the health food store and tell them what happened. If you need to, speak to the manager. Frankly, I would ask for my money back.Hugs,oleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos" <mary1kon wrote:>> Renne.> > What worry's me it's not the jewelery, i dont care if i wear them or not, i worry about the colloidal gold as i was hopping to help with my depression, now what can i do with the product? should i take less and see what happens, stop using it, use it in the garden or for something else, that's the big question ? to many questions and not many answers.> > Thank you Renee for your input.> Hugs Mary>

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Oh Yes .

I cry but tears are not enough, and if i scream as i feel like doing, i'm afraid they going to lock me up really !!!!!!!!! i want to break the house down and other stupid things like that.

I understad where you coming from as you been through this yourself, that's why im listening to you, you know what you talking about, and you understad what i mean when i say i feel pain reapping me apart, so i try to keep myself together by bottling thing up, plus i dont want my girls to get upset if they see me cry and scream or worst taken away, they think i'm ok as i tell them every day i'm doing good.

 

Again Thank you , but as is only a weekend thing i will managed dont worry to much Sweety.

 

Love you back

Hugs Mary

 

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Friday, January 09, 2009 2:13 PM

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Mary,Forget the logic. That is depression's worst enemy. You are bottling your feelings up. If you feel like crying and screaming then do it. Let it all out.Your feelings are very normal. Losing a spouse is very, very painful. The loneliness is overwhelming, and it can last for a very long time. God gave us tears for when we are sad. It is important to use those tears if we need to. When we use "logic" and bottle them up, that is when depression surfaces. Believe me, I know. I have gone through this and it is by no means easy. It is the loneliest feeling in the world, yet, I know that it doesn't make you feel better. From the bottom of my heart I am so sorry that you are going through this.Bundles of love to you,oleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos" <mary1kon wrote:>> Yes .> > I have- and still do take all of the herbs you mention , but as you know my depression is mostly weekends and it started after my husbands passing, i lost him on a friday, so every friday something clicks and i go down, i want to scream and cry to the top of my lungs, then logic takes over and i shut up.> I'm lucky though i have this group to come to and forget my problem for little while.> > Thank you Sweety you are my rock.> > Love you- Hugs Mary

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I did send an e-mail to the company, with my complains, now im waiting for their replay and see what happens, because even the colour is clear.

 

Hugs Mary

 

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Friday, January 09, 2009 2:19 PM

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Mary,After having that reaction I would stop taking it for sure. Bring it back to the health food store and tell them what happened. If you need to, speak to the manager. Frankly, I would ask for my money back.Hugs,oleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos" <mary1kon wrote:>> Renne.> > What worry's me it's not the jewelery, i dont care if i wear them or not, i worry about the colloidal gold as i was hopping to help with my depression, now what can i do with the product? should i take less and see what happens, stop using it, use it in the garden or for something else, that's the big question ? to many questions and not many answers.> > Thank you Renee for your input.> Hugs Mary>

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I am concerned Mary.Why don't you talk to your girls and tell them how you feel. Let your heart pour out. I think you need someone to talk to. As mothers, we tend to protect our children from worrying about us. But there comes a time when we need to share our true feelings with them. I believe they will understand and may very well try to help you. Maybe be there for you.Love you Mary,oleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos" <mary1kon wrote:>> Oh Yes .> I cry but tears are not enough, and if i scream as i feel like doing, i'm afraid they going to lock me up really !!!!!!!!! i want to break the house down and other stupid things like that.> I understad where you coming from as you been through this yourself, that's why im listening to you, you know what you talking about, and you understad what i mean when i say i feel pain reapping me apart, so i try to keep myself together by bottling thing up, plus i dont want my girls to get upset if they see me cry and scream or worst taken away, they think i'm ok as i tell them every day i'm doing good.> > Again Thank you , but as is only a weekend thing i will managed dont worry to much Sweety.> > Love you back> Hugs Mary>

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Well, I wasn't really talking so much about your jewelry as just trying to point out that you are probably not allergic to the gold in your drink, but allergic to some other metal in your drink. You listed a LOT of metals in there. It could have been any one of them.

 

Stop taking it for a while and see if you get better. If nothing changes in your situation, then you know the product is not bothering you. But if you stop taking it and then you feel better, then you know the product is bad for you.

 

I think you will find great relief with the magnets though.

 

Good luck,

Renee

 

 

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What worry's me it's not the jewelery, i dont care if i wear them or not, i worry about the colloidal gold as i was hopping to help with my depression, now what can i do with the product?

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Mary,

 

Forgive me, but it sounds like you need to detox in a hurry. Really, the desire to scream, cry, or do other "crazy" things are usually the manifestation of toxins in your liver, blood, and nervous system. In Chinese medicine we say you have too much heat in your liver, or liver fire is rising. In any case you might want to start a liver cleanse and/or take milk thistle. Make sure you are moving your bowels at least twice daily if not more. Take an herbal laxative if you need to... you have to cleanse your body. Stay away from anything you are allergic to... foods, metals, etc. Stop taking anything that might exacerbate your condition. Excess sugar, salt, stimulants such as coffee and chemicals are a no no. Try to eat only organic foods. Sometimes exercise helps but what I have found to help quickly is a hot bath with epsom salts.... soak in a hot tub until you sweat. Try not to use chlorinated water if possible. Sharing your feelings with others may also help and it's ok to accept sympathy from others who love you. Good luck.

 

Bob

 

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May

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Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:47 PM

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I am concerned Mary.Why don't you talk to your girls and tell them how you feel. Let your heart pour out. I think you need someone to talk to. As mothers, we tend to protect our children from worrying about us. But there comes a time when we need to share our true feelings with them. I believe they will understand and may very well try to help you. Maybe be there for you.Love you Mary,oleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos" <mary1kon wrote:>> Oh Yes .> I cry but tears are not enough, and if i scream as i feel like doing, i'm afraid they going to lock me up really !!!!!!!!! i want to break the house down and other stupid things like that.> I understad where you coming from as you been through this yourself, that's why im listening to you, you know what you talking about, and you understad what i mean when i say i feel pain reapping me apart, so i try to keep myself together by bottling thing up, plus i dont want my girls to get upset if they see me cry and scream or worst taken away, they think i'm ok as i tell them every day i'm doing good.> > Again Thank you , but as is only a weekend thing i will managed dont worry to much Sweety.> > Love you back> Hugs Mary>

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No way .

My girls where on anti-depresants for a year after their fathers passing, i'm not going to do this to them again.

And because we are close i try to avoid bringing back memories, they worry enough about me as it is, they tell me to go out more, make new friends, take me out shopping, for long drives launchs or diners, fishing, we have long talks and even laughs, but they have a life to live, and not worry every moment about me it's not fare to them

Believe me i know what i'm doing by not letting them see the whole picture, this is my pain now and i have to find my way out of the misery i'm in.

I appreciate your concern, believe me i do, but dont worry i be ok.

 

Love and Hugs Mary

 

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Friday, January 09, 2009 3:47 PM

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I am concerned Mary.Why don't you talk to your girls and tell them how you feel. Let your heart pour out. I think you need someone to talk to. As mothers, we tend to protect our children from worrying about us. But there comes a time when we need to share our true feelings with them. I believe they will understand and may very well try to help you. Maybe be there for you.Love you Mary,oleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos" <mary1kon wrote:>> Oh Yes .> I cry but tears are not enough, and if i scream as i feel like doing, i'm afraid they going to lock me up really !!!!!!!!! i want to break the house down and other stupid things like that.> I understad where you coming from as you been through this yourself, that's why im listening to you, you know what you talking about, and you understad what i mean when i say i feel pain reapping me apart, so i try to keep myself together by bottling thing up, plus i dont want my girls to get upset if they see me cry and scream or worst taken away, they think i'm ok as i tell them every day i'm doing good.> > Again Thank you , but as is only a weekend thing i will managed dont worry to much Sweety.> > Love you back> Hugs Mary>

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Yes Renne.

 

I agry with you that something in the product must be causing the problem, so i'm going to make a cream with it for external use, on painful areas plus

so i dont have to cry for my

$40 Lol.

 

Hugs Mary

 

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Gaiacita

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Friday, January 09, 2009 3:56 PM

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Well, I wasn't really talking so much about your jewelry as just trying to point out that you are probably not allergic to the gold in your drink, but allergic to some other metal in your drink. You listed a LOT of metals in there. It could have been any one of them.

 

Stop taking it for a while and see if you get better. If nothing changes in your situation, then you know the product is not bothering you. But if you stop taking it and then you feel better, then you know the product is bad for you.

 

I think you will find great relief with the magnets though.

 

Good luck,

Renee

 

 

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What worry's me it's not the jewelery, i dont care if i wear them or not, i worry about the colloidal gold as i was hopping to help with my depression, now what can i do with the product?

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Dear sweet Bob.

 

Thank you for you intrest, but bob my problem is not physicalis is emotional and is not on all the time.

You be surprised to know that i'm the only person i know to eat organically grown products my own for

10 years now.

No sugar in my diet for the last 20 years, never have a drink in my life, having daily green juices from my garden, mixing my own herbal teas and tinctures, doing detoxing every 6 months, the only thing that i like is my coffee but i make up by going to bed ten thirty every night, getting up at 7 every morning, go for long walks and working around the house all day long, in few words Bob i'm a very healthy person, 61 years old and i have never taken medication in my life, but loosing my husband took the life out of me.

Please dont get me wrong i do accept love and sympathy, but i dont want to take peoples time by feeling sorry for my self.

 

Thank you for your intrest and suggestions though.

 

Hugs Mary

 

 

 

 

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Friday, January 09, 2009 3:58 PM

Re: Re: colloidal gold

 

 

 

Mary,

 

Forgive me, but it sounds like you need to detox in a hurry. Really, the desire to scream, cry, or do other "crazy" things are usually the manifestation of toxins in your liver, blood, and nervous system. In Chinese medicine we say you have too much heat in your liver, or liver fire is rising. In any case you might want to start a liver cleanse and/or take milk thistle. Make sure you are moving your bowels at least twice daily if not more. Take an herbal laxative if you need to... you have to cleanse your body. Stay away from anything you are allergic to... foods, metals, etc. Stop taking anything that might exacerbate your condition. Excess sugar, salt, stimulants such as coffee and chemicals are a no no. Try to eat only organic foods. Sometimes exercise helps but what I have found to help quickly is a hot bath with epsom salts.... soak in a hot tub until you sweat. Try not to use chlorinated water if possible. Sharing your feelings with others may also help and it's ok to accept sympathy from others who love you. Good luck.

 

Bob

 

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May

oleander soup

Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:47 PM

Re: colloidal gold

I am concerned Mary.Why don't you talk to your girls and tell them how you feel. Let your heart pour out. I think you need someone to talk to. As mothers, we tend to protect our children from worrying about us. But there comes a time when we need to share our true feelings with them. I believe they will understand and may very well try to help you. Maybe be there for you.Love you Mary,oleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos" <mary1kon wrote:>> Oh Yes .> I cry but tears are not enough, and if i scream as i feel like doing, i'm afraid they going to lock me up really !!!!!!!!! i want to break the house down and other stupid things like that.> I understad where you coming from as you been through this yourself, that's why im listening to you, you know what you talking about, and you understad what i mean when i say i feel pain reapping me apart, so i try to keep myself together by bottling thing up, plus i dont want my girls to get upset if they see me cry and scream or worst taken away, they think i'm ok as i tell them every day i'm doing good.> > Again Thank you , but as is only a weekend thing i will managed dont worry to much Sweety.> > Love you back> Hugs Mary>

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Sure Mary. But know that if it bothers you when you ingest it, it may also still bother you when you put it on your skin. It just depends on how sensitive you are to it. But certainly try the cream method--that may just work out great. I hope so. It is such a pain to feel like we waste money!

 

Samala,

Renee

 

 

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I agry with you that something in the product must be causing the problem, so i'm going to make a cream with it for external use, on painful areas plus

so i dont have to cry for my

$40 Lol.

 

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Mary, have you written your husband? It's very very good to sit down and write a big, long letter or two (on paper), to your husband. Tell him how much you love him still, and miss him, and are upset that he left you. Write it all out.

 

Then when it's all written out, get a pretty candle, light it, say a prayer and then use the candle to light and burn the letters. Many different groups of people believe that the smoke will carry the letter's contents up to heaven, where your husband will read it.

 

You can do this as often as you want. It feels great to do this.

 

Samala,

Renee

 

 

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this is my pain now and i have to find my way out of the misery i'm in.

 

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