Guest guest Posted May 27, 2002 Report Share Posted May 27, 2002 Absolutely. The more one treats the clearer it is that succesful results are dependant on knowing what herbs work for what specific disease within the broad,and often simple, parameters of a pattern. A clinical hint can be the most valuable information of all. >>>>Simon unfortunately this is too often lost in the "we just need to balance stuff" mentality of many TCM practitioners in the west Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Dear Sherry, We call her, " SuperMom " !!! Man oh man. What lucky kids grace your life and lucky they are in your grace. I absolutely LOVE this story. I gotta say this made my day. Way to go supermom! With Admiration, Zeb ------------- My reply was, " Guess what? He was only on the meds for two weeks! So, It's my contention that the only thing that has changed is your attitude towards my child, " The subject was promptly changed at that point, and I soon after pulled all of my children from the public school system. Sherry Lassiter Mom to Caleb 22, Sarah 21, Chelsea 19, Calli 16, and Olivia 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 I'm new to the list and this is my first post. I tend to hang out for a while before introducing myself. ;-) However, in light of this discussion, I wanted to share my experience with the PS system and ADD. When my son was small and in the public school, I got many MANY complaints about his behavior. I then begand to get pressured in to having him " tested " for ADD. After a time I agreed. He was sent to the local county health clinic, put in a room with a " view " for the evaluators for about a half hour, then diagnosed as ADD. He was then given a prescription for Ritalin to be given every morning before school. I tried it (ignorant as I was at the time) for two weeks. Caleb nearly went out of his mind every evening. Had the bugs under the skin sensations, wild mood swings... was basically in a living hell. What was I told by his Dr? " Give him time to adjust to the meds. " BULL! I took him off the meds and simply didn't tell anyone I had. :-) Three months later, a meeting was scheduled to re-evaluate Caleb's progress in school. The first to speak was his teacher. She said, You would not believe the difference in Caleb since you finally agreed to have him treated. " My reply was, " Guess what? He was only on the meds for two weeks! So, It's my contention that the only thing that has changed is your attitude towards my child, " The subject was promptly changed at that point, and I soon after pulled all of my children from the public school system. Sherry Lassiter Mom to Caleb 22, Sarah 21, Chelsea 19, Calli 16, and Olivia 12 Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail./mail_250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Sherry, you did wonderful!!!! I had to laugh at what happened with the re-evaluation - even though it most likely wasn't funny to you at the time! Your kids are lucky to have you!! love Lisa - sherry lassiter herbal remedies Wednesday, May 18, 2005 5:58 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - ADD I'm new to the list and this is my first post. I tendto hang out for a while before introducing myself. ;-)However, in light of this discussion, I wanted toshare my experience with the PS system and ADD.When my son was small and in the public school, I gotmany MANY complaints about his behavior. I then begandto get pressured in to having him "tested" for ADD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Tulu, I, too, have ADD. I refuse to think of myself as 'suffering' from it though. I truly believe a positive attitude goes a long way to learning how to live with ADD. For lack of concentration, part of the problem may be lack of interest in the subject. With ADD, when one is truly interested by something, the focus becomes almost hyper-fixed on everything about it. It takes some training to pay close attention & keep one's focus if the subject isn't captivating though. I found that it helps to take visual notes during any meetings. If there are books involved or papers, take them with you & follow along with what's said at the meeting, using the papers or book. That way, not just the auditory part of your mind is being used but your visual part too. And making notes also brings into play another part of your mind as your fingers write, re-enforcing your concentration. Try to anticipate what may be said or discussed. Your thoughts work much faster than spoken words so you can think along with what is said. You must learn tricks that work best for yourself to pay attention. Really, nothing comes easy without some effort from us. View it as a stimulating challenge rather than a handicap & you'll be more likely to act positively about it. I've also found that many things in modern society 'feeds' ADD. Things like rapidly changing scenes in TV shows, movies & news; the start & stop driving in traffic (rushing from one traffic light to another with waits for the light to change in between); video games; flashing advertising; & even newspapers & magazines with short articles broken into small sections (due to many people not liking to read now). All these things seem to foster a shorter attention span in most people & make it noticeably worse for those of us with ADD. Try to avoid much of this. It will only make things worse. Traffic is hard to avoid but rather than watching shows with rapidly changing scenes or lots of special effects, pick something with a more leisurely & involved story line. Take some time to simply relax with a good book rather than a magazine or newspaper. I ca find myself calming down & focusing better when I do so. How's your sleeping? If your sleep isn't deep & restful, it can play havoc with your concentration & worsen ADD symptoms. TCM can help with poor sleep & if your sleeping habits are irregular, you can improve that yourself. I can't speak about what herbs may help or hinder. That's beyond me but perhaps some of what I suggested might be worth trying? Judy On Saturday 05 July 2008 5:46:48 pm tulu 489 wrote: > I suffer from ADD. I used to take Gui Pi Wan and it helped to keep it under > some control. But now it does not help me at all, rather it makes my ADD > worse. I do not know what has changed? Could it be due to long gap when I > did not take Gui Pi Wan? > > I tried Acorus but it did not suit me. It was worsening my ADD, so I > stopped it. For the last one week I am taking GABA (750 mg in the morning), > it has reduced my procrastination but nothing beyond that. > > There are three other formulations which I am thinking of trying: > (1) Cerebral Tonic Pills > (2) Bu Nao Wan > (3) Tian Huan Bu Xin Tang. > > My problems are related to weak spleen function and kidney yin. For both > these conditions I took TCM treatment for a long time. For Kidney yin can I > try " Two Immortals " ? This formulation is recommended for women, so I am a > bit hesitant to consider it. > > Memory and mental fog were a serious issue in the past, but TCM treatment, > yoga brething and Acupuncture have made a very positive improvement. My > present problem is (1) lack of concentration when attending a meeting (2) > if some one speaks fast I fail to understand what is being said. I am not > sure if (2) comes under ADD. > > Any suggestions would be highly appreciated. > > Regards. > Tulu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 5:46 PM, tulu 489 <tulu489 wrote: > I suffer from ADD. I used to take Gui Pi Wan and it helped to keep it > under some control. But now it does not help me at all, rather it makes my > ADD worse. I do not know what has changed? > Could it be due to long gap when I did not take Gui Pi Wan? > How long after beginning the Gui Pi Wan did it help? Did it continue to help after you stopped taking Gui Pi Wan? If so, for how long? I tried Acorus but it did not suit me. It was worsening my ADD, so I stopped > it. > For the last one week I am taking GABA (750 mg in the morning), it has > reduced my procrastination but nothing beyond that. > I know of some people who would be very happy to address their procrastination with a pill. > There are three other formulations which I am thinking of trying: > (1) Cerebral Tonic Pills > (2) Bu Nao Wan > (3) Tian Huan Bu Xin Tang. > Tian Wang Bu Xi Tang is pretty good, I'm not sure what's in the others. However, I see you're focusing on these over-the-counter formulas. You might consider doubling the dosage presented on the package. They really aim low on their labeling. My problems are related to weak spleen function and kidney yin. For both > these conditions I took TCM treatment for a long time. > For Kidney yin can I try " Two Immortals " ? This formulation is recommended > for women, so I am a bit hesitant to consider it. > That's funny. Am I to assume then, that you are male? Formulas are really gender non-specific, though a blood moving formula such as shao fu zhu yu tang might address erectile dysfunction in males, but painful periods in females. So, the applications can be different, but the formulas aren't really that gender specific. " Two Immortals " is for a deficiency of both yin and yang. Might not apply to you. > Memory and mental fog were a serious issue in the past, but TCM treatment, > yoga brething and Acupuncture have made a very positive improvement. My > present problem is (1) lack of concentration when attending a meeting (2) if > some one speaks fast I fail to understand what is being said. I am not sure > if (2) comes under ADD. > Am I to understand that you only notice ADD in meetings? Or is it that your ADD is noticeable in meetings because it is more important that you focus? The problem understanding someone who is speaking fast doesn't sound like ADD to me. Do you have any ringing in your ears? Do you find your hearing loss more evident in loud restaurants or anything like that? -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Judy, I love what you're throwing down here. I myself find that if I apply a qi gong idea to my daily life, I can focus better in the moment too. What I do is kind of act like I'm underwater, where to move anything, there's a little thickness that I have to press against. So, the air around you becomes just a little thick, and you can't move quite as freely. This totally slows you down and brings you in to the moment. May not be something that you'll want to do during business meetings, but you do that for a few minutes prior and by the time you're sitting in your meeting, you're all there! On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Judy Wilkins <isomorphix wrote: > Tulu, I, too, have ADD. I refuse to think of myself as 'suffering' from it > though. I truly believe a positive attitude goes a long way to learning how > to live with ADD. > > -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 --- On Sat, 7/5/08, Al Stone <al wrote: Al Stone <al Re: [Chinese Traditional Medicine] ADD Chinese Traditional Medicine Saturday, July 5, 2008, 9:43 PM On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 5:46 PM, tulu 489 <tulu489 > wrote: > I suffer from ADD. I used to take Gui Pi Wan and it helped to keep it > under some control. But now it does not help me at all, rather it makes my > ADD worse. I do not know what has changed? > Could it be due to long gap when I did not take Gui Pi Wan? > How long after beginning the Gui Pi Wan did it help?I do not remember the time it needed to be effective. I was taking it 3 times a day, 8 pills every time. Did it continue to help after you stopped taking Gui Pi Wan? Yes, for a few months. If so, for how long? I tried Acorus but it did not suit me. It was worsening my ADD, so I stopped > it. > For the last one week I am taking GABA (750 mg in the morning), it has > reduced my procrastination but nothing beyond that. > I know of some people who would be very happy to address their procrastination with a pill. Procrastination is a symptom of ADD. Whenever ADD shows improvement, procrastination goes down. > There are three other formulations which I am thinking of trying: > (1) Cerebral Tonic Pills > (2) Bu Nao Wan > (3) Tian Huan Bu Xin Tang. > Tian Wang Bu Xi Tang is pretty good, I'm not sure what's in the others. However, I see you're focusing on these over-the-counter formulas. You might consider doubling the dosage presented on the package. They really aim low on their labeling.I will try Tian Wang Bu Xi Tang. I do not have access to an experienced TCM practitioner, so I have to use OTC formulas. My problems are related to weak spleen function and kidney yin. For both > these conditions I took TCM treatment for a long time. > For Kidney yin can I try " Two Immortals " ? This formulation is recommended > for women, so I am a bit hesitant to consider it. > That's funny. Am I to assume then, that you are male? Formulas are really gender non-specific, though a blood moving formula such as shao fu zhu yu tang might address erectile dysfunction in males, but painful periods in females. So, the applications can be different, but the formulas aren't really that gender specific. " Two Immortals " is for a deficiency of both yin and yang. Might not apply to you. Any suggestions on a formulation that addresses yin deficiency only? > Memory and mental fog were a serious issue in the past, but TCM treatment, > yoga brething and Acupuncture have made a very positive improvement. My > present problem is (1) lack of concentration when attending a meeting (2) if > some one speaks fast I fail to understand what is being said. I am not sure > if (2) comes under ADD. > Am I to understand that you only notice ADD in meetings?Meeting is the occasion where ADD hurts most, attention and concentration is needed. I have to be 'PRESENT' in the meeting. Or is it that your ADD is noticeable in meetings because it is more important that you focus? The problem understanding someone who is speaking fast doesn't sound like ADD to me. Do you have any ringing in your ears? Do you find your hearing loss more evident in loud restaurants or anything like that? No ringing in the ears. Yes, noise makes ADD worse. -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 8:14 AM, tulu 489 <tulu489 wrote: > > How long after beginning the Gui Pi Wan did it help?I do not remember > the time it needed to be effective. > I was taking it 3 times a day, 8 pills every time. > > Did it continue to help after you stopped taking Gui Pi Wan? > > Yes, for a few months. > And you have since returned to Gui Pi Wan and it didn't help this time? Hmmm. I'd give that larger dosage a try firstly. Gui Pi Wan is a reasonable choice for ADD, but that assumes a specific cause that derives from a weakened digestion (Spleen qi) leading to a lack of neurotransmitters (Heart blood) that have some sort of effect on your concentration and focus. Any suggestions on a formulation that addresses yin deficiency only? > There are quite a few, but when one thinks about a formula that addresses * concentration* problems due to Kidney yin deficiency, the formula Tian Wan Bu Xin Dan (that last word can change to tang, pian, wan, etc.) is what you're looking for. -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 " ...but that assumes a specific cause that derives from a > weakened digestion (Spleen qi) leading to a lack of neurotransmitters (Heart > blood) that have some sort of effect on your concentration and focus. " , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Do we have to stick with Chinese medicine on this forum? Lack of balance in neurotransmitters - well that's a western version of things to start with - can cause all sorts of havoc in your mind. Now that I am in my 50s, my mind does not function as smartly as when younger, so I am starting to look into things I can take & do. Someone I know recommended amino acid therapy, the whole lot of them in certain ratios, not just 1 or 2 aminos. I guess this is semi-drug-like on first glance, because you are not dealing directly with a sluggish digestive system. But on second thought, if the amino acids you take by mouth (immediately digested kind) create the right amount of NTMs, maybe the body is eventually thereby fooled into thinking that the liver & entire digestive system are smart enough to get going and do it themselves. You know, a feedback system. This does of course assume an adequate diet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Mrs. Barley <chosenbarley wrote: > " ...but that assumes a specific cause that derives from a > > > weakened digestion (Spleen qi) leading to a lack of > neurotransmitters (Heart > > blood) that have some sort of effect on your concentration and focus. " > > Do we have to stick with Chinese medicine on this forum? > We can talk about things in whatever language we chose. But when I describe Western mechanisms, as I did above, it is only for the sake of being understood. I don't mean to really stress that there is a problematic balance in neurotransmitters. I don't know that. But it better communicates the relationship of " heart blood " to sleep, cognition, focus, and all these shen (spirit) level issues that can be treated with Gui Pi Wan. -- , DAOM Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Al Stone " <al wrote: The problem understanding someone who is speaking fast doesn't sound like > ADD to me. Do you have any ringing in your ears? Do you find your hearing > loss more evident in loud restaurants or anything like that? > Actually this could be a symptom of ADD or ADHD which has nothing to do with hearing loss. There is something called Auditory Processing Disorder. If this is a problem for the person, additional noise in an environment would exacerbate understanding what is said as would listening to someone who was talking faster than normal. It is a problem with the translation of information which comes into the brain into something comprehensible to the brain and it is frequently seen in people who have ADD or ADHD: http://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/voice/auditory.asp " Auditory processing is a term used to describe what happens when your brain recognizes and interprets the sounds around you. Humans hear when energy that we recognize as sound travels through the ear and is changed into electrical information that can be interpreted by the brain. The " disorder " part of auditory processing disorder means that something is adversely affecting the processing or interpretation of the information. Children with APD often do not recognize subtle differences between sounds in words, even though the sounds themselves are loud and clear. For example, the request " Tell me how a chair and a couch are alike " may sound to a child with APD like " Tell me how a couch and a chair are alike. " It can even be understood by the child as " Tell me how a cow and a hair are alike. " These kinds of problems are more likely to occur when a person with APD is in a noisy environment or when he or she is listening to complex information. APD goes by many other names. Sometimes it is referred to as central auditory processing disorder (CAPD). Other common names are auditory perception problem, auditory comprehension deficit, central auditory dysfunction, central deafness, and so-called " word deafness. " Although this website discusses children this problem is not something which disappears upon reaching adulthood. There is also a visual processing disorder. Hopefully a person will only have one of these problems and not both. This is why some children (and adults) learn in different ways. Many teachers are not aware of this problem and this can be why some children have such a hard time learning in school, especially if there has been no workup to find out what is going on with the child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 So, then, it could be concluded that the socalled different " intelligences " are actually the result of some sort of pathology. I recall that in school I couldn't learn much by listening to the teachers; I had to read the material on my own. V. interesting post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Thanks, your posting makes a lot of sense. --- On Mon, 7/7/08, baidanwu34 <baidanwu34 wrote: baidanwu34 <baidanwu34 [Chinese Traditional Medicine] Re: ADD Chinese Traditional Medicine Monday, July 7, 2008, 6:52 AM Chinese Traditional Medicine, " Al Stone " <al wrote: The problem understanding someone who is speaking fast doesn't sound like > ADD to me. Do you have any ringing in your ears? Do you find your hearing > loss more evident in loud restaurants or anything like that? > Actually this could be a symptom of ADD or ADHD which has nothing to do with hearing loss. There is something called Auditory Processing Disorder. If this is a problem for the person, additional noise in an environment would exacerbate understanding what is said as would listening to someone who was talking faster than normal. It is a problem with the translation of information which comes into the brain into something comprehensible to the brain and it is frequently seen in people who have ADD or ADHD: http://www.nidcd. nih.gov/health/ voice/auditory. asp " Auditory processing is a term used to describe what happens when your brain recognizes and interprets the sounds around you. Humans hear when energy that we recognize as sound travels through the ear and is changed into electrical information that can be interpreted by the brain. The " disorder " part of auditory processing disorder means that something is adversely affecting the processing or interpretation of the information. Children with APD often do not recognize subtle differences between sounds in words, even though the sounds themselves are loud and clear. For example, the request " Tell me how a chair and a couch are alike " may sound to a child with APD like " Tell me how a couch and a chair are alike. " It can even be understood by the child as " Tell me how a cow and a hair are alike. " These kinds of problems are more likely to occur when a person with APD is in a noisy environment or when he or she is listening to complex information. APD goes by many other names. Sometimes it is referred to as central auditory processing disorder (CAPD). Other common names are auditory perception problem, auditory comprehension deficit, central auditory dysfunction, central deafness, and so-called " word deafness. " Although this website discusses children this problem is not something which disappears upon reaching adulthood. There is also a visual processing disorder. Hopefully a person will only have one of these problems and not both. This is why some children (and adults) learn in different ways. Many teachers are not aware of this problem and this can be why some children have such a hard time learning in school, especially if there has been no workup to find out what is going on with the child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 My grandson was just diagnosed with ADD and the Dr wants my daughter to put him on some medication I never heard of before. He is only 5 years old. I hate the thoughts of it. There has to be bad side effects to this What alternative advice could anyone give? thank you sue g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Greetings. My son has autism and i have worked with 3 different medical universities for over 30 years on neurological, neurogenetics, neuroscience issues regarding my life partners fatal previously unknown neuromuscular syndrome, so i know this field extremely well! Its best to use natural techniques and re directive therapies. Try to make games out of learning experiences. Most of the S.S.R.I. and similar drug groups tend to have a sedating effect, when st. johns wart does similar without the sedating side effects. Perhaps someone else here can add to this, but i hope this is helpfull. Blessings of the Netjar Shaman Odin On 23/03/2009, susan <SuppyZ wrote: > My grandson was just diagnosed with ADD and the Dr wants my daughter to put > him on some medication I never heard of before. He is only 5 years old. I > hate the thoughts of it. There has to be bad side effects to this > > What alternative advice could anyone give? > > thank you > sue g > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Sue, There is a series of articles in the group files on ADD. It is a good place to start. http://health. Ien in the Kootenays http://freegreenliving.com (blog) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 , " susan " <SuppyZ wrote: > > My grandson was just diagnosed with ADD and the Dr wants my daughter to put him on some medication I never heard of before. He is only 5 years old. I hate the thoughts of it. There has to be bad side effects to this > > What alternative advice could anyone give? > > thank you > sue g > I would strongly look at his diet and start eliminating sugar and dairy. Those are 2 known culprits to cause ADD symptoms. If you start the medication without trying the diet elimination you will only be masking the symptoms, you will never cure what the cause is. I helped a friend of the family one year with her grandson. We weaned him off the popular ADD/ADHD medication Ridlin and by the end of summer, with dietary changes and increasing vitamins and enzymes, the child was totally different. His mother was shocked by the change. Unfortunately the mother didn't stick to the dietary changes when he went back home, however the child was smart enough to know how he felt while he was at his grandmothers and stuck with eating as healthy as he could back at home. He never went back to taking the meds, he graduated at the top of his class, and went on to college. Do your research look into as many causes and see where your grandson could be affected. Small changes can make a huge difference. Please just try to avoid the medication unless it's your last resort, I have seen what that medication can do to a child--it's not pretty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 It is always the DIET.. change the diet.. take out the White Flour and sugar to begin with.. Put him on probiotics and a vitamin, if you can get him to take some kind of Omega oil, Krill oil or Cod oil, Nordic Naturals has a child version. Meds are dangerous to our children.. it is ALWAYS the food!! Stay away from High fructose corn syrup, White flour, white sugar (any form of sugar actually) NO ARTIFICIAL sugar!! Preservatives and colors.. Red 40 Blue 5 and so on .. most people never look at the ingredients. If you read a label on a everyday advertised cereal or even salad dressings you will be surprised how much crap is in that food! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 First thing I think of is just the tendency to " diagnose " everybody with something, especially when the pharmaceutical companies are pushing their " cures " so heavily. Boys aren't allowed to just be boys any more; there's something " wrong " with them if they cut up in class, or they daydream, or have lots of energy. Maybe somebody can homeschool him, bypass all those overworked/underpaid teachers who don't have the energy to deal with NORMAL kids. Don't forget " normal " has a very wide range... Humans are all different, and there's no way we could all be made the same (except maybe if we're all drugged into a stupor) even if we wanted to be. Joy , " susan " <SuppyZ wrote: > > My grandson was just diagnosed with ADD and the Dr wants my daughter to put him on some medication I never heard of before. He is only 5 years old. I hate the thoughts of it. There has to be bad side effects to this > > What alternative advice could anyone give? > > thank you > sue g > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 There are two methods to " cure " ADD/ADHD. One is called EEG Biofeedback or Neurofeedback. Typical costs are about $4000 for 60 half hour sessions and at the end of these, A child will sit still in school, payt attention, and learn easily getting A's and B's . The other is named Neuroliminal Training, and this does the same thing as EEG biofeedback or Neurofeedback - namely change brain wave amplitudes, but this is done using subliminal messaging instead of the expensive EEG machines. Cost is $147 total and is done at home while sleeping in general. Virtually all ADD/ADHD children are in the high IQ areas, and Ritalin, Adderall, Concerta, and Strattera only " dope " them and make them controllable in the classroom. They also addict many as Ritalin and others are basically speed on the street - methyl phenidate. We criminiliaze these drugs on the street, but doctors prescribe them in the classroom. Shame. -- Phil Bate PhD http://drbate.com - Free Alternate Health Advice Neuroliminal Training (NT) helps solve mental problems without drugs at low cost. ADD to Autism, Insomnia to depression & more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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