Guest guest Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 > mz_roe wrote: > > Does anyone have any natural suugesstions to combat > deppresstion? I have tried conventional medicines > and nothing works, nothing removes this cloud. I have > also tried exercising but it's hard to do on a > regular basis when you barely have energy to go to work. > My thoughts on things that may be adding to depression: 1) Lack of sunshine. I am not talking just sunlight (like through a glass window). I am talking about being outside and exposing skin to the sun's rays. Why? Because the sun helps reset the serotonin/ melatonin cycle, which in turn helps one to sleep, and very often lack of sleep is a cause of depression. You've heard of the antidepressant drugs called SSRIs? That stands for selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors. That class of drugs works by affecting the serotonin/melatonin cycle. Also, the sun is the BEST source for vitamin D. Dietary vitamin D is vitamin D2, and is far inferior to the vitamin D that the body can synthesize from sunshine. And vitamin D is vital for the body to gain and maintain control of calcium in the body. Fibromyalgia, which often comes along with depression has been linked to the body's loss of control of calcium. 2) Omega 3. I saw that some others mentioned fish (tuna) and omega 3 for depression. I believe there are a few connections that omega 3 has with depression. First, the brain is largely made up of fat cells, and omega 3 is important for brain health. Second, omega 3 also helps one to absorb sunshine, increasing the ability to synthesize vitamin D from sunshine, as well as reset the serotonin/melatonin cycle. 3) Often depression comes from lack of energy. Dehydration will decreased one's energy level, and often simply drinking a tall glass of water will help to increase energy level, and thus begin to dispel the depression. Rule of thumb, from the disciplines I use (TBM and NH), you should be drinking a quart of water per 50 pounds of body weight, plus a quart (or two according to NH) every day. 4) Your adrenal glands need salt. Unrefined sea salt is your preferred salt. Often depleted salt will cause one to feel fatigued, and all one needs to increase energy is a pinch or two of salt. If you are drinking a lot of water and are on a restricted salt diet, if you feel fatigue or even dizziness, there is a definite possibility that the problem is that you are not giving your body enough salt. Try putting unrefined sea salt in one or two of your glasses of water during the day to help replenish salt. If you put salt in a glass of water and the water does not taste salty to you, that may be a cue that you DO need more (healthy) salt in your diet. Regular table salt is not your preferred salt, as it has been chemically changed - superheated, chemically treated to keep it from clumping and bleached so it is pure white. 5) Sugar can be a major cause of depression. Now you may believe you are not eating sugar, but processed carbs and grains break down into sugars and will tend to have the same depressing effects as sugar does. Artificial sugar substitutes may be even worse. Aspartame and Splenda are neurotoxins and both can be implicated in causing depression. 6) Lack of live foods in your diet. Live foods, such as raw fruits and vegetables, are an important part of your diet for helping you to maintain emotional balance. The more processed foods are, the fewer enzymes are left in them to help you digest them. The fewer enzymes in the food you eat the harder it is to digest and glean the nutrition your body needs from the food, the more energy it takes to digest it, and the less energy you get from it. In this day and age shelf-life is king, and the best way to increase shelf-life is to remove enzymes from the foods. As the enzymes which help you digest and utilize the food also are responsible for making the food rot faster, the more enzymes removed from the food the longer the food's shelf-life, and the less your body can use the food. Anyway, those six things are off the top of my head as possible reasons for depression. I trust that information will be of use to you. Kat Miller, CTBM, CNH Founder Emotional Freedom vial Founder Healing Energy Vibrations vial Certified ESM Instructor http://www.ehdef.com ehdef.com @gmail.com Utah USA Skype: JS_Kat -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 your diet is also a key factor in depression exercise is another key, it builds your endorphins,and a bit of the serotonin in your body. when taking psych meds you also have to exercise, eat well and try to avoid overload on your body and mind. christina maiorano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Because today's conventionally grown fruit and vegetables do not contain all the nutrients that we need. I was looking for a chart that I had years ago which showed the difference between organic and conventionally grown foods but could not find it again. I did find this article at http://livingbalance.us/readings/Week_5_1.pdf Margi - lakshmanan_kv Thursday, October 25, 2007 12:48 AM Re: Deppression , " Lisa Day " <day6 wrote: > > be sure to take a b100 vitamin for stress, eat well, and exercise (best > medicine of all). > best regards > Lisa > * Sounds well! 'Eat well,and exercise'...But why the vit.upplements instead of food containing pure veg. and fruits? Lx* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Its easy to say " be positive--curb negative thoughts " but, if you have a chemical disorder that prevents you from doing so, it is nearly impossible. Some folks try to make themselves happy by eating carbohydrates and put on weight and then add that to their list of miseries. In my case, once I got the correct amount of thyroid hormone meds, my world started changing and my pessimism turned around. I couldn't do it simply on my own. , " Barb Brown " <barbbrown wrote: > > There are many things available to effectively treat depression. It > just depends what your body needs. Start with a good diet, no sweets, > regular exercise (outside is best), and a little sunshine. Surround > yourself with positive people, check your negative thoughts and try to > turn them around. It's ok to seek the help of a professional to talk > about the depression. Sometimes you can figure out where it is coming > from or what triggered it this time around. Techniques used include > Thought Field Therapy, Emotional Freedom Technique, EMDR, and many > others. I have also had really good results with accupuncture and by > working with a nutritionist. There are a lot of options. Hope you > feel better soon. > > Barb > www.milehicounseling.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 I agree with all of the reasons stated. I just wanted to add that I used to be addicted to diet soda. I was always stressed out, anxious, and tempermental. I quit the soda and the symptoms were gone.I drank some again when a relative came to visit and immediately the symptoms returned. I have not drank soda since. I don't eat or drink diet or sugar free anything. I avoid it like it's poison. So many foods contain the " fake stuff " , anything reduced calorie or lite probably contains fake sweeteners. I won't even chew gum with fake sugar. The only " real sugar " gum I have found is original Bazooka. It is so sad that they put that crap in so much stuff. So many people are ingesting that stuff and don't even realize it. I personally feel that the artificial sugars (nutrasweet(aspartame) and slpenda are a lot worse for people than we once thought. Just a thought. Kat Miller <js_kat wrote: > mz_roe wrote: > > Does anyone have any natural suugesstions to combat > deppresstion? I have tried conventional medicines > and nothing works, nothing removes this cloud. I have > also tried exercising but it's hard to do on a > regular basis when you barely have energy to go to work. > My thoughts on things that may be adding to depression: 1) Lack of sunshine. I am not talking just sunlight (like through a glass window). I am talking about being outside and exposing skin to the sun's rays. Why? Because the sun helps reset the serotonin/ melatonin cycle, which in turn helps one to sleep, and very often lack of sleep is a cause of depression. You've heard of the antidepressant drugs called SSRIs? That stands for selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors. That class of drugs works by affecting the serotonin/melatonin cycle. Also, the sun is the BEST source for vitamin D. Dietary vitamin D is vitamin D2, and is far inferior to the vitamin D that the body can synthesize from sunshine. And vitamin D is vital for the body to gain and maintain control of calcium in the body. Fibromyalgia, which often comes along with depression has been linked to the body's loss of control of calcium. 2) Omega 3. I saw that some others mentioned fish (tuna) and omega 3 for depression. I believe there are a few connections that omega 3 has with depression. First, the brain is largely made up of fat cells, and omega 3 is important for brain health. Second, omega 3 also helps one to absorb sunshine, increasing the ability to synthesize vitamin D from sunshine, as well as reset the serotonin/melatonin cycle. 3) Often depression comes from lack of energy. Dehydration will decreased one's energy level, and often simply drinking a tall glass of water will help to increase energy level, and thus begin to dispel the depression. Rule of thumb, from the disciplines I use (TBM and NH), you should be drinking a quart of water per 50 pounds of body weight, plus a quart (or two according to NH) every day. 4) Your adrenal glands need salt. Unrefined sea salt is your preferred salt. Often depleted salt will cause one to feel fatigued, and all one needs to increase energy is a pinch or two of salt. If you are drinking a lot of water and are on a restricted salt diet, if you feel fatigue or even dizziness, there is a definite possibility that the problem is that you are not giving your body enough salt. Try putting unrefined sea salt in one or two of your glasses of water during the day to help replenish salt. If you put salt in a glass of water and the water does not taste salty to you, that may be a cue that you DO need more (healthy) salt in your diet. Regular table salt is not your preferred salt, as it has been chemically changed - superheated, chemically treated to keep it from clumping and bleached so it is pure white. 5) Sugar can be a major cause of depression. Now you may believe you are not eating sugar, but processed carbs and grains break down into sugars and will tend to have the same depressing effects as sugar does. Artificial sugar substitutes may be even worse. Aspartame and Splenda are neurotoxins and both can be implicated in causing depression. 6) Lack of live foods in your diet. Live foods, such as raw fruits and vegetables, are an important part of your diet for helping you to maintain emotional balance. The more processed foods are, the fewer enzymes are left in them to help you digest them. The fewer enzymes in the food you eat the harder it is to digest and glean the nutrition your body needs from the food, the more energy it takes to digest it, and the less energy you get from it. In this day and age shelf-life is king, and the best way to increase shelf-life is to remove enzymes from the foods. As the enzymes which help you digest and utilize the food also are responsible for making the food rot faster, the more enzymes removed from the food the longer the food's shelf-life, and the less your body can use the food. Anyway, those six things are off the top of my head as possible reasons for depression. I trust that information will be of use to you. Kat Miller, CTBM, CNH Founder Emotional Freedom vial Founder Healing Energy Vibrations vial Certified ESM Instructor http://www.ehdef.com ehdef.com @gmail.com Utah USA Skype: JS_Kat -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 I would like to comment on a diet that has alot of carbs in it. Everyone's metabolism is different. I have been told that each of us requires and responds to a different diet. I am very slim and always have been, and my diet consists of more carbs than the average person. I do also make an effort to eat my share of protein as well. We are all individuals and a higher carb diet for one may not have an effect on a higher carb diet for another. Marsha and the Yorkies http://www.miracleyorkies.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Part of the reason is the amount of fertilizers and other chemicals that are required by the FDA for use on produce. Also the fact that a lot of foods we are eating now are Genetically Modified and loose their nutritional value through the changes. Jenny Kernan --- Margi <Margi wrote: > Because today's conventionally grown fruit and > vegetables do not contain all the nutrients that we > need. I was looking for a chart that I had years > ago which showed the difference between organic and > conventionally grown foods but could not find it > again. > I did find this article at > http://livingbalance.us/readings/Week_5_1.pdf > Margi > > - > lakshmanan_kv > > Thursday, October 25, 2007 12:48 AM > Re: Deppression > > > , " Lisa > Day " <day6 wrote: > > > > be sure to take a b100 vitamin for stress, eat > well, and exercise > (best > > medicine of all). > > best regards > > Lisa > > > > * > > Sounds well! 'Eat well,and exercise'...But why the > vit.upplements > instead of food containing pure veg. and fruits? > > Lx* > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 I wanted to put in my two cents in for an Alternative Answer! I really like the book, " Feeling Good, The New Mood Therapy " by Dr. David Burns (which isn't so new; the book was published in 1980! Yes, I'm old!) Sometimes we need something to help us lift that veil of darkness to get to the depression but sometimes positive thoughts DO help. ~Happiness Joan Mary Hugs Nkisses <tiredgirl50 wrote: Its easy to say " be positive--curb negative thoughts " but, if you have a chemical disorder that prevents you from doing so, it is nearly impossible. Some folks try to make themselves happy by eating carbohydrates and put on weight and then add that to their list of miseries. In my case, once I got the correct amount of thyroid hormone meds, my world started changing and my pessimism turned around. I couldn't do it simply on my own. , " Barb Brown " <barbbrown wrote: > > There are many things available to effectively treat depression. It > just depends what your body needs. Start with a good diet, no sweets, > regular exercise (outside is best), and a little sunshine. Surround > yourself with positive people, check your negative thoughts and try to > turn them around. It's ok to seek the help of a professional to talk > about the depression. Sometimes you can figure out where it is coming > from or what triggered it this time around. Techniques used include > Thought Field Therapy, Emotional Freedom Technique, EMDR, and many > others. I have also had really good results with accupuncture and by > working with a nutritionist. There are a lot of options. Hope you > feel better soon. > > Barb > www.milehicounseling.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 nutrasweet affects me badly also; i can take some splenda, but not regularly -- i can stop splenda diet drinks (which are addicting to me) if i drink an alternate drink such as kool aid made with stevia and two tablespoons of apple cider vinegar. Then I seem to want more water, rather than diet soda. , Alison Bliss <naturalhealthmom wrote: > > I agree with all of the reasons stated. I just wanted to add that I used to be addicted to diet soda. I was always stressed out, anxious, and tempermental. I quit the soda and the symptoms were gone.I drank some again when a relative came to visit and immediately the symptoms returned. I have not drank soda since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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