Deppression

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B complex, and yes, you can take all of these with no worries that they will react with your meds. I would also highly recommend SAM-e. It's kinda expensive, but very helpful. Start low and work up in dosage. I take B-complex in the morning cuz it can give you energy, and magnesium at bedtime cuz it can help you sleep. I take fish oil all day long. I used to get awful night sweats with Effexor. Sure glad to be done with that.

 

Krys

 

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emily morris

herbal remedies

Wednesday, May 03, 2006 2:45 PM

Herbal Remedies - deppression

i am currently on effexor, and have been for four years i cant say that they are working as they used to . would it be ok if i took vitamin b ,magnesium and fish oils . by the way ,which vitamin b supplement do you mean thanks in advance. linda m

 

linda

 

 

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I think you'd benefit from the extra vitamins and fish oil in itself is

excellent for so many things - couldn't hurt! As far as a certain brand

of B vitamins, I buy Nature Made B complex from my grocery store.

 

Tori

[Guest guest]

I was put on effexor as a "precationary" med since I have a neur disorder. I never noticed any differences from it at all except a decrease in sexual functions. although I had and still do take b complex, fish oils and a variety of other vitamins and supplements but no magnesium as I cant take it with my illness. perhaps that’s why I never felt different? maybe. just thought I'd post what I knew of this.

 

melisa

[Guest guest]

Is Fish Oil good then for depression???

 

 

In a message dated 5/3/2006 4:06:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, tori_1138 writes:

I think you'd benefit from the extra vitamins and fish oil in itself is excellent for so many things - couldn't hurt! As far as a certain brand of B vitamins, I buy Nature Made B complex from my grocery store.Tori

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

herbal remedies , " Melisa " <On_A_Quest

wrote:

>

> I was put on effexor as a " precationary " med since I have a neur

disorder. I never noticed any differences from it at all except a

decrease in sexual functions. although I had and still do take b

complex, fish oils and a variety of other vitamins and supplements but

no magnesium as I cant take it with my illness. perhaps that's why I

never felt different? maybe. just thought I'd post what I knew of

this.

>

> melisa

>

hi melisa just reading your page. please dont think your on your

own ,as i too take effexor and my sex drive is nil, and has been for

the last 4 years. lol linda

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Dear Robyn,

I think we're all interested. Legal or otherwise.

As long as it's herbal, its discussion is allowed on HR.

The producing of any herbal product is the responsibility of the grower.

In Health and Love,

Doc

 

Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc

 

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Robyn

herbal remedies

Thursday, May 04, 2006 10:19 AM

Herbal Remedies - deppression

I have gone through getting off a few different antidepressants,I just wanted to warn you, you WILL have withdrawls, and it won't be fun. The Dr.'s won't tell you that, I wish someone would have warned me! It's worth it. What I used to get through it isn't legal in all of the US, contact me if you're interested.

[Guest guest]

I know I am. I just came off of 4 meds for bi polar disorder, and I know what I am facing just hope my loved ones do. lol They are here to help me. but in info on what to take would be helpful. I am taking st. john's wort. MeLissa"Dr. Ian Shillington" <DocShillington wrote: Dear Robyn, I think we're all interested. Legal or otherwise. As long as it's herbal, its discussion is allowed on HR. The producing of any herbal product is the responsibility of the

grower. In Health and Love, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc - Robyn herbal remedies Thursday, May

04, 2006 10:19 AM Herbal Remedies - deppression I have gone through getting off a few different antidepressants,I just wanted to warn you, you WILL have withdrawls, and it won't be fun. The Dr.'s won't tell you that, I wish someone would have warned me! It's worth it. What I used to get through it isn't legal in all of the US, contact me if you're interested.

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Hi MeLissa,

 

Several years ago I got off drugs for bipolar and into the

orthomolecular stuff - vitamins, minerals, amino acids, etc.

As I understand it, there are lots of things you can take, it just

depends on your particular metabolism. There are many labs in the US

which can do the complete metabolic testing to determine what

supplements exactly you need. There are also many great books

detailing the different patterns behind the "mental illness" metabolic

imbalances that can guide you in chosing supplements.

 

Omega 3 fish oil in high doses is great, if you are not taking it

already. I found out the hard way that too much causes mania in those

so inclined. I didn't have the same intensity of withdrawl you are

speaking of since I wasn't on anti-depressants, but it was recommended

to take soy protein isolate (one type of sports protein powers) to help

with withdrawl - and it did.

 

Good luck,

Rachel

 

 

 

temperancewhispers wrote:

 

I know I am. I just came off of 4 meds for bi polar disorder,

and I know what I am facing just hope my loved ones do. lol They are

here to help me. but in info on what to take would be helpful. I am

taking st. john's wort.

MeLissa

 

"Dr. Ian Shillington" <DocShillington

wrote:

 

Dear Robyn,

I think we're all

interested. Legal or otherwise.

As long as it's

herbal, its discussion is allowed on HR.

The producing of

any herbal product is the responsibility of the grower.

In Health and

Love,

Doc

 

Doc Shillington

727-447-5282

Doc

 

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Sent:

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Herbal Remedies - deppression

 

 

I have gone through getting off a few different antidepressants,

I just wanted to warn you, you WILL have withdrawls, and it won't

be fun. The Dr.'s won't tell you that, I wish someone would have

warned me! It's worth it. What I used to get through it isn't

legal in all of the US, contact me if you're interested.

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Kanna or st john's wort is also a great treatment for depression.

On 5/5/06, linda <emilyade46 wrote:

 

 

herbal remedies , " Melisa " <On_A_Quest

wrote:>> I was put on effexor as a " precationary " med since I have a neur disorder. I never noticed any differences from it at all except a decrease in sexual functions. although I had and still do take b complex, fish oils and a variety of other vitamins and supplements but no magnesium as I cant take it with my illness. perhaps that's why I never felt different? maybe. just thought I'd post what I knew of

this. > > melisa>

hi melisa just reading your page. please dont think your on your own ,as i too take effexor and my sex drive is nil, and has been for the last 4 years. lol linda

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Rachel, Thank you. I am not sure I can get lab work done without a dr. I will try the fish oil and look into soy protein isolate. Thank you so much for taking your time to give this info to me. Blessings, MeLissaRachel Mason <groups wrote: Hi MeLissa,Several years ago I got off drugs for bipolar and into the orthomolecular stuff - vitamins, minerals, amino

acids, etc.As I understand it, there are lots of things you can take, it just depends on your particular metabolism. There are many labs in the US which can do the complete metabolic testing to determine what supplements exactly you need. There are also many great books detailing the different patterns behind the "mental illness" metabolic imbalances that can guide you in chosing supplements.Omega 3 fish oil in high doses is great, if you are not taking it already. I found out the hard way that too much causes mania in those so inclined. I didn't have the same intensity of withdrawl you are speaking of since I wasn't on anti-depressants, but it was recommended to take soy protein isolate (one type of sports protein powers) to help with withdrawl - and it did.Good luck,Racheltemperancewhispers wrote: I

know I am. I just came off of 4 meds for bi polar disorder, and I know what I am facing just hope my loved ones do. lol They are here to help me. but in info on what to take would be helpful. I am taking st. john's wort. MeLissa"Dr. Ian Shillington" <DocShillington wrote: Dear Robyn, I think we're all interested. Legal or otherwise. As long as it's herbal, its discussion is allowed on HR. The producing of any herbal product is the responsibility of the grower. In Health and Love, Doc Doc Shillington727-447-5282Doc - Robyn herbal remedies Thursday, May 04, 2006 10:19 AM Herbal Remedies - deppression I have gone through getting off a few different antidepressants,I just wanted to warn you, you WILL have withdrawls, and it won't be fun. The Dr.'s won't tell you that, I wish someone would have warned me! It's worth it. What I used to get through it isn't legal in all of the US, contact me if you're interested. Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail Beta.

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[Guest guest]

Does anyone have any natural suugesstions to combat deppresstion? I

have tried conventional medicines and nothing works, nothing removes

this cloud. I have also tried exercising but it's hard to do on a

regular basis when you barely have energy to go to work.

[Guest guest]

I'd love an answer to the same question. I've been

having a hard time getting to sleep, then getting up

once I do fall asleep. Been sleeping alot, not eating,

not going out, not talking to anyone.

This is getting stupid!!

--- mz_roe <mz_roe wrote:

 

> Does anyone have any natural suugesstions to combat

> deppresstion? I

> have tried conventional medicines and nothing works,

> nothing removes

> this cloud. I have also tried exercising but it's

> hard to do on a

> regular basis when you barely have energy to go to

> work.

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

well OMEGA 3 does help and the ever fascinating EFT emotional freedom technique

helped me a lot to resolve a lot of emotional issues!....keep in

touch..rhoda

 

mz_roe <mz_roe wrote:

Does anyone have any natural suugesstions to combat deppresstion? I

have tried conventional medicines and nothing works, nothing removes

this cloud. I have also tried exercising but it's hard to do on a

regular basis when you barely have energy to go to work.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Mz_Roe,

 

I know of 4 things that may help if you have not already tried them.

 

1. Guided Meditation - You can download free meditations from

hayhouse.com from the Meditations to Go archives. I'd suggest you do

one in the morning and one before bed. At first, do one anytime you

feel bad until you can cut back.

 

2. Hypnosis - Regressive hypnosis is the best for depression, but

behavioral hypnosis may also help.

 

3. Self-Esteem - Address any self-esteem issues you may have

initially. It is very difficult to be depressed if you have good self-

esteem.

 

4. Balance - Find a balance in your life. Look at mind, body, and

spirit. I believe depression is caused by an imbalance in your life.

 

Sending you love and light...

 

 

Sharon

http://foru2bhealed.angelfire.com/

http://health.gnosticholistichealingcenter/

 

 

-----

 

 

, " mz_roe " <mz_roe wrote:

>

> Does anyone have any natural suugesstions to combat deppresstion? I

> have tried conventional medicines and nothing works, nothing removes

> this cloud. I have also tried exercising but it's hard to do on a

> regular basis when you barely have energy to go to work.

>

[Guest guest]

If your depression isn't too far gone, try doing things you enjoy, get a hobbie,

something you are passionate about. Try to stay away from things that depress

you or better yet, look them in they eye, and verbally tell them, " You are NOT

going to make me depressed. I REFUSE to allow it " . Sometimes saying things

aloud, really helps. Look in the mirror 3 or 4 times a day and say " YOU are a

WONDERFUL person with alot to give!!!! YOU will be fine. " This can help, as

well as any other advice folks here might have. Look in the mirror and SMILE!

(((((bug hugs)))))) and good luck!

 

Marsha and the Yorkies

http://www.miracleyorkies.com

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

 

You can try Kriya Yoga but it needs to be done under a trained teacher.

 

Here are the details:

 

Kriya Yoga is closely related to Kundalini Yoga, Raja Yoga, and

Tantric Yoga. It is a powerful system of meditation, utilizing

concentration, visualization, mantra (inner sound), and devotion.

Another important aspect of this meditation is the controlled use of

the breath (pranayama) in order to generate a balanced flow of Life

Energy (prana and apana) within the spinal column. Kriya Yoga

generates intense energy, heightening awareness, sharpening

perception, dissolving stress and anxiety, and is an excellent yoga

for depression. Kriya Yoga should only be practiced under the guidance

of a trained teacher.

 

Besides try laughter therapy.Laugh as much as possible.Just think

about things which are bothering you and work out a worst case

scenario i.e. what is the worst that can happen and then decide that

you can handle it.Things will start falling in place automatically.

 

Regards,

ggarg27

 

www.askwebman.com

 

 

, " mz_roe " <mz_roe wrote:

>

> Does anyone have any natural suugesstions to combat deppresstion? I

> have tried conventional medicines and nothing works, nothing removes

> this cloud. I have also tried exercising but it's hard to do on a

> regular basis when you barely have energy to go to work.

>

[Guest guest]

When I get in a funk, fish(I eat a can of tuna made into tuna salad) and dark

chocolate work for me. No side effects either. You can use as much or as little

as you need. Tuna tends to take about 45minutes and can last a long time, days

even. Chocolate's effect for me is pretty much immediate. Of course I am not a

doctor. These are personal experiences. I claim no cures or liability in

conjunction with my answer. Good luck.

 

mz_roe <mz_roe wrote: Does anyone have any natural

suugesstions to combat deppresstion? I

have tried conventional medicines and nothing works, nothing removes

this cloud. I have also tried exercising but it's hard to do on a

regular basis when you barely have energy to go to work.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

be sure to take a b100 vitamin for stress, eat well, and exercise (best

medicine of all).

best regards

Lisa

[Guest guest]

I second that. EFT is something that I hope everyone learns!

 

Omega 3, 5HTP, MACA, a good B-100 Complex, Progesterone cream (yes,

even for you guys)... these all help, but EFT is free and works

wonders.

 

Hope you feel better soon.

 

Michelle

http://www.HolisticMenopause.com

 

well OMEGA 3 does help and the ever fascinating EFT emotional freedom

technique helped me a lot to resolve a lot of emotional issues

[Guest guest]

This is good advice. I would add that you want to look

at what stressors are going on in your body. Are your

hormones out of balance, Neurotransmitters are

unbalanced, high stress and chaos in the home and work

place? Diet? Parasites? Are you dealing with fungus or

adrenal exhaustion? All of these can be the underlying

cause of depression. Parasites are notorius for being

involved in depression.

 

 

Jenny Kernan

Quantum Biofeedback Therapist

www.quantumassociatesofutah.com

 

--- Sharon <foru2bhealed wrote:

 

> Mz_Roe,

>

> I know of 4 things that may help if you have not

> already tried them.

>

> 1. Guided Meditation - You can download free

> meditations from

> hayhouse.com from the Meditations to Go archives.

> I'd suggest you do

> one in the morning and one before bed. At first, do

> one anytime you

> feel bad until you can cut back.

>

> 2. Hypnosis - Regressive hypnosis is the best for

> depression, but

> behavioral hypnosis may also help.

>

> 3. Self-Esteem - Address any self-esteem issues you

> may have

> initially. It is very difficult to be depressed if

> you have good self-

> esteem.

>

> 4. Balance - Find a balance in your life. Look at

> mind, body, and

> spirit. I believe depression is caused by an

> imbalance in your life.

>

> Sending you love and light...

>

>

> Sharon

> http://foru2bhealed.angelfire.com/

>

http://health.gnosticholistichealingcenter/

>

>

> -----

>

>

> , " mz_roe "

> <mz_roe wrote:

> >

> > Does anyone have any natural suugesstions to

> combat deppresstion? I

> > have tried conventional medicines and nothing

> works, nothing removes

> > this cloud. I have also tried exercising but it's

> hard to do on a

> > regular basis when you barely have energy to go to

> work.

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Here is a very good article on depression and the role vitamins

play in helping you get better.

 

http://discovermagazine.com/2005/may/vitamin-cure/article_view?

b_start:int=2 & -C

 

I hope it is of help to you.

 

Carol

 

 

 

, Robin West

<robin_west wrote:

>

> I'd love an answer to the same question. I've been

> having a hard time getting to sleep, then getting up

> once I do fall asleep. Been sleeping alot, not eating,

> not going out, not talking to anyone.

> This is getting stupid!!

> --- mz_roe <mz_roe wrote:

>

> > Does anyone have any natural suugesstions to combat

> > deppresstion? I

> > have tried conventional medicines and nothing works,

> > nothing removes

> > this cloud. I have also tried exercising but it's

> > hard to do on a

> > regular basis when you barely have energy to go to

> > work.

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

why would tuna help? Judge me not for I am always changing.-jenn

younghotpradamama

 

 

: naturalhealthmom: Wed,

24 Oct 2007 09:09:52 -0700Re: Deppression

 

 

 

 

When I get in a funk, fish(I eat a can of tuna made into tuna salad) and dark

chocolate work for me. No side effects either. You can use as much or as little

as you need. Tuna tends to take about 45minutes and can last a long time, days

even. Chocolate's effect for me is pretty much immediate. Of course I am not a

doctor. These are personal experiences. I claim no cures or liability in

conjunction with my answer. Good luck.mz_roe <mz_roe wrote: Does

anyone have any natural suugesstions to combat deppresstion? I have tried

conventional medicines and nothing works, nothing removes this cloud. I have

also tried exercising but it's hard to do on a regular basis when you barely

have energy to go to work.Do

You ?

 

[Guest guest]

, " Lisa Day " <day6 wrote:

>

> be sure to take a b100 vitamin for stress, eat well, and exercise

(best

> medicine of all).

> best regards

> Lisa

>

 

*

 

Sounds well! 'Eat well,and exercise'...But why the vit.upplements

instead of food containing pure veg. and fruits?

 

Lx*

[Guest guest]

There are many things available to effectively treat depression. It

just depends what your body needs. Start with a good diet, no sweets,

regular exercise (outside is best), and a little sunshine. Surround

yourself with positive people, check your negative thoughts and try to

turn them around. It's ok to seek the help of a professional to talk

about the depression. Sometimes you can figure out where it is coming

from or what triggered it this time around. Techniques used include

Thought Field Therapy, Emotional Freedom Technique, EMDR, and many

others. I have also had really good results with accupuncture and by

working with a nutritionist. There are a lot of options. Hope you

feel better soon.

 

Barb

www.milehicounseling.com

[Guest guest]

Make sure that you are taking enough calcium each day - also, massage

(even hugging, just some form of positive touch) is excellent for

depression, since it helps to release the " happy hormones " in your

body - Make sure that you're taking enough time for yourself each day