Zogby Poll on Impeaching George W. Bush - PLEASE READ!

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Wednesday, September 28, 2005 6:52 PM

Zogby Poll on Impeaching George W. Bush - PLEASE READ!

 

 

 

 

 

PLEASE READ:

 

 

 

Last week, John Zogby was interviewed and asked about doing a poll

on impeaching bush (article below). He said he would not ask any

questions on impeaching bush on his own initiative, that he would only

do it if he is hired to do it. I called Zogby and he confirmed that he

will do poll questions on Impeaching Bush and related matters if he is

paid to do it.

 

I don't see anybody else coming forward, so it looks like it's up

to us. If we don't raise the impeachment question in a poll and

introduce it to the public, nobody else is going to do it. And we

desperately need this kind of information out there, to get the

impeachment movement rolling, to start the conversation, and to reach

people who aren't involved now, maybe out of intimidation and fear,

and who need some support and encouragement to stand up and speak out.

Once there is one poll and it is in the public domain, more polls and

more discussion will follow.

 

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I've opened a PayPal Business account under the name Zogby

Impeachment Poll. There can be several people " on " a Business account

with different levels of access which I why I chose this one, so

there will be checks and balances and no one will think anyone (me) is

playing around with the funds. We also need a business account to

accept credit cards and debit cards. (The Premier Account has the same

fees, but only one person can have access.)

 

If the Pro-impeachment camp can't raise the money for this, we're

not much of an anti-bush movement are we? THIS would make a

difference! Surely we anti-bush activists can raise $5000 or even

$10000. There is no minimun donation amount, but I think most people

would consider $5 affordable and reasonable. If not, whatever you can

afford is fine. Shoot, if we get 5000 people to donate $2 each,

or10,000 people to donate $1, we're on our way. I already have 3

pledges of $100 and one for $50, so we've got $350 in the kitty and

are off to a good start. If for any reason this effort fails and this

doesn't work out, all the money donated will be returned, less the

2.9% +$0.30 cent fee that PayPal takes for business and premier accounts.

 

Please join in and contribute whatever you can, no matter how

little. Every dollar counts and every dollar will help.

 

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(I don't understand why the text link doesn't work all the time

and I don't have anymore time to try figure it out. If all else fails,

the name of the account is Zogby Impeachment Poll and the email

address is impeachbush. Either one, probably the email

address should get you to the right place. Uggh. )

 

Here are the details of how it will work.

 

We could either have our own poll, if we had a lot of questions,

or we could be included in what they call the " bi-monthly omnibus "

with only one question or a few. We would be provided with the poll

results and all the demographic breakdowns: age, religion, sex. red

state/blue state, etc.

 

The cost is $2000 for the first question, $1000 for every

additional question. (There is a discrepancy on the cost of the first

question, it may only be $1000.)

We also need to have people submit the questions they would like

asked. You need to take some time with this and try to phrase the

questions the way poll questions are worded, so there is no

implications or slanting. I have a Zogby poll, provided by Luke/Lukery

who started this whole issue going that I have uploaded to the files

section of Aggressive Progressives so those members can check it out.

I will send the poll to any owner who wants it for the file section of

their group.

 

I'd also like to get a website up, one that looks decent, one page

is all that is necessary. I'll buy the domain name and pay for the

hosting. Is there anyone out there who does web pages and would like

to volunteer? (Maybe I can do it myself, but I haven't done a web

page in 3 years, so I'm rusty and not up to the latest technology and

I'd like it to look somewhat professional.)

 

I'd ideally like to raise at least $10,000 to ask an array of

questions, on impeaching bush and cheney, opening a new investigation

on 911, the plame case, criminal charges for Katrina, etc.

 

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Zogby responds to call for new impeachment poll

 

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Zogby_responds_to_call_for_new_impeachment_0921.ht\

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09/21/2005 @ 12:40 pm

 

Says he would consider poll if paid

 

A defiant blogger has taken U.S. pollster John Zogby to task,

saying he flip-flopped after stating he would survey the American

public again on whether they thought President George W. Bush should

be impeached.

 

Zogby, in turn, told RAW STORY his poll questions are meant to

respond to the vagaries of public opinion, not to become part of a

“cause celebre.â€

 

Zogby polled Americans in June as to whether they would support

impeaching President Bush if it were proved he had misled the nation

about his reasons for going to war in Iraq. Forty-two percent said

they would support impeaching the president under that condition.

 

The day the poll was released, Zogby went on MSNBC’s Countdown

with Keith Olbermann. When asked whether he would raise the question

again, he said: “We'll test it periodically, probably in a month

from now. Again, no-one is really talking about it, but it is a good

barometric reading.â€

 

Zogby did not poll on impeachment again.

 

This has not made Luke Ryland, an Australian based blogger

(Wotisitgood4.blogspot.com) who tracks U.S. politics, happy. After no

poll on impeachment appeared in successive months, he began

corresponding with Zogby’s firm.

 

“When Zogby says ‘no-one,’ he means that the punditocracy

isn't talking about it,†Ryland says. “That is to say, 42 percent

of the American people are seriously thinking about the impeachment of

the President despite the apparent media lockdown.â€

 

Ryland contacted Zogby in August. He asked when the pollster might

raise the question again.

 

“We'll skip the summer and get back to it in September,†Zogby

replied.

 

Come September, Ryland emailed again. A member of Zogby’s firm

replied: “We have decided to not to ask the impeachment question

again unless it is raised in Congress.â€

 

When Zogby first polled on impeachment, the Downing Street

documents had spawned a firestorm among Washington liberals, leading

some grassroots activists to call on Congress to consider impeachment.

The documents showed that the Bush and Blair Administrations were

aggressively pursuing their case for war despite knowing there was

scant evidence of Iraq weapons programs. In one document, the chief of

British intelligence is quoted as saying that officials were trying

to “fix†intelligence to fit the policy.

 

Rep. John Conyers (D-MI) spearheaded the charge, demanding that

the Administration turn over any and all documents relating to the memos.

 

The issue, however, died without fanfare.

 

“What happened officially was nothing,†Zogby told RAW STORY.

“There was no movement -- at least no credible movement -- pushing

for impeachment, and secondly, I did not intend or never intend as a

pollster to part of a cause celebre.

 

“In that sense I opted to not ask it because it's not on the

official radar screen and I want to ensure that I’m not used by

either side,†he added.

 

Zogby says Ryland isn’t the only one who’s pushed him to do

another impeachment poll.

 

“One blogger wrote an sent me an email saying I was part of a

conspiracy now, and another said I have a constitutional duty,†he said.

 

The veteran barometer of public opinion notes that he’s gone

farther than other polling agencies by examining the President’s

approval ratings in the context of other presidents.

 

“In the last poll I did the horse race against every president

from Jimmy Carter,†he remarked. “I thought that was interesting

and revealing, and equally revealing was that I did the horse race

again with John Kerry. To me, that was a lot of meat for a lot of

interesting conversation and analysis.â€

 

“But I don’t see myself playing the role of leading the charge

for impeachment,†he added. “That was not my intent.â€

 

Ryland dismisses such justifications.

 

" Zogby's justifications for not asking the impeachment question

are spurious -- evidenced by the simple fact that he has already asked

the question,†he wrote in an email. “The only condition that has

changed since then is that the president's approval ratings have

plummeted.â€

 

" Over the summer, Zogby's position has morphed from 'probably in a

month' to 'We'll get back to it in September' to 'we aim to remain

impartial' to 'there is no constitutional duty here.' Zogby says that

he won't be pressured to ask the impeachment question - but his

constantly changing position leaves the distinct impression that he

has been pressured NOT to ask it. "

 

Ryland goes further: “Given Karl Rove's reputation, it would be

surprising if he didn't try to pressure Zogby.â€

 

Zogby says he hasn’t foreclosed the possibility of polling on

impeachment again.

 

“I might ask it again, but I won’t be pressured to ask it,â€

he said. “If somebody wants to hire us to ask it, I’d consider

that.â€

 

Correction: Mr. Ryland's first name is Luke; his blogging name is

Lukery.

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