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Hi All & Hi Holmes,

 

> If one tends to anger, one is in imbalance. If to rage, one is

> ill. In both cases recognition of what is happening is paramount.

 

We have another List [LIKEM - Love, Intuition / Intention,

Knowledge, Empathy & Mysticism in Healing]. Most on that List

believe that all those elements combine for the best results.

 

IMO, a healer with anger or rage is not centred and will not get the

best results.

 

The words: " Healer, Heal Thyself " spring to mind! [Holmes, the

word " Thyself " does not refer to you!

 

 

Best regards,

 

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Anger is just one emotion from our human nature. We view it as a

negative emotion because it has negative implications. However,

anger is just as valid and important as joy.

 

If you sit still enough you can feel them, the emotions, rise up

from deep inside you. You perspective may be still, calm and

relaxed, yet you'll feel different emotions rising up like waves,

anger, happiness, sadness, etc. Each one is valid and yet each one

is a transient illusion. Instead of attached to one particular

emotion you may want to view them all as illusion, and so ride them

all in the same way.

 

Emotion viewed from the Zangfu represents this balance of emotion

and the non-judgmental view of emotion. Excessive anger causes an

imbalance of Qi and affects the liver. Excessive joy affects the

Heart. They are simply imbalances of emotional states and nothing

more.

 

A person that does not express anger is imbalanced and will store

suppressed anger inside, usually via the liver and develop internal

diseases as a consequence. I wouldn't trust a person that was never

anger or never happy for that matter. I therefore embrace anger and

joy and all our emotions, they are apart of us and cannot be

selectively ignored or removed.

 

I'll leave you with a quote from my favourite poem which sums up the

illusion and equal ness of 'negative' and 'positive' emotions.

 

If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,

If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;

If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster

And treat those two impostors just the same;

Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,

And--which is more--you'll be a Man, my son!

--Rudyard Kipling

 

Attilio

 

 

 

" " <@e...> wrote:

> Hi All & Hi Holmes,

>

> > If one tends to anger, one is in imbalance. If to rage, one is

> > ill. In both cases recognition of what is happening is paramount.

>

> We have another List [LIKEM - Love, Intuition / Intention,

> Knowledge, Empathy & Mysticism in Healing]. Most on that List

> believe that all those elements combine for the best results.

>

> IMO, a healer with anger or rage is not centred and will not get

the

> best results.

>

> The words: " Healer, Heal Thyself " spring to mind! [Holmes, the

> word " Thyself " does not refer to you!

>

>

> Best regards,

>

> Email: <@e...>

>

> WORK : Teagasc Research Management, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4,

Ireland

> Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0]

>

> HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland

> Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0]

> WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm

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Well said Attilio.

Anger, like any other emotion, is a perfectly valid emotion so long as

it is appropriate to the circumstances and one doesn't get stuck in

it. There seems to be a kind of superficial New Age approach to

so-called 'negative' emotions which has crept into the mindset of many

practitioners of OM.

I wonder if this implicit disapproval of certain emotions comes across

to patients of such practitioners? That would be unfortunate, because

I have treated many patients, paticularly women, who's physical

symptoms seemed directly related to their suppression of anger and

frustration. The last thing they need from the practitioner is an

implied value judgement that their inner feelings are invalid.

 

Godfrey Bartlett.

 

 

Chinese Medicine ,

attiliodalberto wrote:

> Anger is just one emotion from our human nature. We view it as a

> negative emotion because it has negative implications. However,

> anger is just as valid and important as joy.

>

> If you sit still enough you can feel them, the emotions, rise up

> from deep inside you. You perspective may be still, calm and

> relaxed, yet you'll feel different emotions rising up like waves,

> anger, happiness, sadness, etc. Each one is valid and yet each one

> is a transient illusion. Instead of attached to one particular

> emotion you may want to view them all as illusion, and so ride them

> all in the same way.

>

> Emotion viewed from the Zangfu represents this balance of emotion

> and the non-judgmental view of emotion. Excessive anger causes an

> imbalance of Qi and affects the liver. Excessive joy affects the

> Heart. They are simply imbalances of emotional states and nothing

> more.

>

> A person that does not express anger is imbalanced and will store

> suppressed anger inside, usually via the liver and develop internal

> diseases as a consequence. I wouldn't trust a person that was never

> anger or never happy for that matter. I therefore embrace anger and

> joy and all our emotions, they are apart of us and cannot be

> selectively ignored or removed.

>

> I'll leave you with a quote from my favourite poem which sums up the

> illusion and equal ness of 'negative' and 'positive' emotions.

>

> If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,

> If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;

> If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster

> And treat those two impostors just the same;

> Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,

> And--which is more--you'll be a Man, my son!

> --Rudyard Kipling

>

> Attilio

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Hi Godfrey,

 

This is exactly true. I treated an alternative health healer, who

had an almost person state of health. A pink tongue with a slight

white coating, normal appetite, sleep, urine, stools, etc. Yet he

suppressed his angry, feeling that it was an emotion that he should

no longer have and therefore exhibited liver Qi stagnation symptoms

such as a wiry pulse and was generally irritated with imperfections

in his surrounding life.

 

Attilio

 

" acu_qichina " <acu@q...> wrote:

> Well said Attilio.

> Anger, like any other emotion, is a perfectly valid emotion so

long as

> it is appropriate to the circumstances and one doesn't get stuck in

> it. There seems to be a kind of superficial New Age approach to

> so-called 'negative' emotions which has crept into the mindset of

many

> practitioners of OM.

> I wonder if this implicit disapproval of certain emotions comes

across

> to patients of such practitioners? That would be unfortunate,

because

> I have treated many patients, paticularly women, who's physical

> symptoms seemed directly related to their suppression of anger and

> frustration. The last thing they need from the practitioner is an

> implied value judgement that their inner feelings are invalid.

>

> Godfrey Bartlett.

>

>

> Chinese Medicine ,

> attiliodalberto wrote:

> > Anger is just one emotion from our human nature. We view it as a

> > negative emotion because it has negative implications. However,

> > anger is just as valid and important as joy.

> >

> > If you sit still enough you can feel them, the emotions, rise up

> > from deep inside you. You perspective may be still, calm and

> > relaxed, yet you'll feel different emotions rising up like

waves,

> > anger, happiness, sadness, etc. Each one is valid and yet each

one

> > is a transient illusion. Instead of attached to one particular

> > emotion you may want to view them all as illusion, and so ride

them

> > all in the same way.

> >

> > Emotion viewed from the Zangfu represents this balance of

emotion

> > and the non-judgmental view of emotion. Excessive anger causes

an

> > imbalance of Qi and affects the liver. Excessive joy affects the

> > Heart. They are simply imbalances of emotional states and

nothing

> > more.

> >

> > A person that does not express anger is imbalanced and will

store

> > suppressed anger inside, usually via the liver and develop

internal

> > diseases as a consequence. I wouldn't trust a person that was

never

> > anger or never happy for that matter. I therefore embrace anger

and

> > joy and all our emotions, they are apart of us and cannot be

> > selectively ignored or removed.

> >

> > I'll leave you with a quote from my favourite poem which sums up

the

> > illusion and equal ness of 'negative' and 'positive' emotions.

> >

> > If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,

> > If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;

> > If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster

> > And treat those two impostors just the same;

> > Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,

> > And--which is more--you'll be a Man, my son!

> > --Rudyard Kipling

> >

> > Attilio

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how did you treat?

 

Dr. Holmes Keikobad

MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ

www.acu-free.com - home based recertification for acupuncturists and health

professionals

-

" " <attiliodalberto

<Chinese Medicine >

Thursday, December 18, 2003 3:42 PM

Re: Anger/rage and healing

 

 

Hi Godfrey,

 

This is exactly true. I treated an alternative health healer, who

had an almost person state of health. A pink tongue with a slight

white coating, normal appetite, sleep, urine, stools, etc. Yet he

suppressed his angry, feeling that it was an emotion that he should

no longer have and therefore exhibited liver Qi stagnation symptoms

such as a wiry pulse and was generally irritated with imperfections

in his surrounding life.

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Please let's also remember that to the Chinese Anger is the surge

necessary for birth, creativity and the movement/growth of spring, It is

what helps the plant grow through the sidewalk. The *pathology* of Anger

is what seems to be under discussion, arising from frustration, from

feeling stuck, from being unable to see the options.

The English translations of these emotions don't help. We think we would

rather have Joy than Anger, be Fragrant rather than Rancid. Yet healthy

Rancid smells like a tree and unhealthy Fragrant can activate the gag

reflex. Joy isn't about being happy.

Perhaps this is two discussions - the appropriate expression of an

emotion, and the Chinese definition of Emotion (which, according to Niki

Bilton, is actually the Will of each Element).

Karen

 

acu_qichina wrote:

 

> Well said Attilio.

> Anger, like any other emotion, is a perfectly valid emotion so long as

> it is appropriate to the circumstances and one doesn't get stuck in

> it. There seems to be a kind of superficial New Age approach to

> so-called 'negative' emotions which has crept into the mindset of many

> practitioners of OM.

> I wonder if this implicit disapproval of certain emotions comes across

> to patients of such practitioners? That would be unfortunate, because

> I have treated many patients, paticularly women, who's physical

> symptoms seemed directly related to their suppression of anger and

> frustration. The last thing they need from the practitioner is an

> implied value judgement that their inner feelings are invalid.

>

> Godfrey Bartlett.

>

>

> Chinese Medicine ,

> attiliodalberto wrote:

> > Anger is just one emotion from our human nature. We view it as a

> > negative emotion because it has negative implications. However,

> > anger is just as valid and important as joy.

> >

> > If you sit still enough you can feel them, the emotions, rise up

> > from deep inside you. You perspective may be still, calm and

> > relaxed, yet you'll feel different emotions rising up like waves,

> > anger, happiness, sadness, etc. Each one is valid and yet each one

> > is a transient illusion. Instead of attached to one particular

> > emotion you may want to view them all as illusion, and so ride them

> > all in the same way.

> >

> > Emotion viewed from the Zangfu represents this balance of emotion

> > and the non-judgmental view of emotion. Excessive anger causes an

> > imbalance of Qi and affects the liver. Excessive joy affects the

> > Heart. They are simply imbalances of emotional states and nothing

> > more.

> >

> > A person that does not express anger is imbalanced and will store

> > suppressed anger inside, usually via the liver and develop internal

> > diseases as a consequence. I wouldn't trust a person that was never

> > anger or never happy for that matter. I therefore embrace anger and

> > joy and all our emotions, they are apart of us and cannot be

> > selectively ignored or removed.

> >

> > I'll leave you with a quote from my favourite poem which sums up the

> > illusion and equal ness of 'negative' and 'positive' emotions.

> >

> > If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,

> > If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;

> > If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster

> > And treat those two impostors just the same;

> > Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,

> > And--which is more--you'll be a Man, my son!

> > --Rudyard Kipling

> >

> > Attilio

>

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Treated the branch, by regulating the Liver. The root can only come

from self-realisation.

 

Attilio

 

" dr. k " <aryaone@e...> wrote:

> how did you treat?

>

> Dr. Holmes Keikobad

> MB BS DPH Ret. DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ

> www.acu-free.com - home based recertification for acupuncturists

and health

> professionals

> -

> " " <attiliodalberto>

> <Chinese Medicine >

> Thursday, December 18, 2003 3:42 PM

> Re: Anger/rage and healing

>

>

> Hi Godfrey,

>

> This is exactly true. I treated an alternative health healer, who

> had an almost person state of health. A pink tongue with a slight

> white coating, normal appetite, sleep, urine, stools, etc. Yet he

> suppressed his angry, feeling that it was an emotion that he should

> no longer have and therefore exhibited liver Qi stagnation symptoms

> such as a wiry pulse and was generally irritated with imperfections

> in his surrounding life.

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Karen

 

> Perhaps this is two discussions - the appropriate expression of an

> emotion, and the Chinese definition of Emotion (which, according to

Niki

> Bilton, is actually the Will of each Element).

> Karen

>

 

You make an excellent point concerning

taking into account the Chinese meanings

of the words that are translated with

various English terms that name emotions.

 

Does Niki Bilton describe what is meant

by " Will of each Element " ?

 

Ken

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