yang and yin on the internet [was RE: Fwd: An interesting discovery on Chinese theories (Semi OT)

[Guest guest]

> By the way, this is the reason why more men than women post on this list -> or any other list.

 

The reasoning of this statement makes me uncomfortable in its relationship to the yang as masculine tendency to teach while yin as feminine to nurture.

(and please note, my understanding of English keeps me from saying "male" and "female" when describing yang and yin.)

 

I see it this way.

Yang communication on the internet tends to be when someone has an idea and they want the world to have that idea the same way because they know this idea to be true.

 

Yin communication on the internet tends to be, Oh, so that is how you understand an idea and this is way here is how I understand an idea.

I understand that your understanding might be different.

That we both might have different understandings isn't wrong. (Once again to the picture of many "fingers pointing to the moon".)

 

Knowing how I or you think, even though it might be different from each other's, gives us insight into each other's true nature so we can accommodate each other within our communications with each other.

(There is nothing more female than male about this statement. It is more feminine however. Males can be quite naturally in touch with their feminine side.)

 

Yang might seem more teaching though not totally devoid of nurturing because to have what might be the correct concept could be beneficial.

(Oh gosh, I can't even explain Yang without going extremely yin!)

Nurturing is done with acknowledgement to the receptor's nature. That a lesson is be being taught might not be as obvious.

 

Very yang internet communication can be very frustrating. I try not to go there. When people refuse to give up their own understanding of a subject (hinting at their own tendency to the yang) and adopt how the yang writer wants them to think ... that's when "flaming" could kick in.

Very Yin communication on the internet is at its most extreme point when folks just "lurk".

 

Both yin and yang carried to the extreme can only occur to the point of unsubscribing, at which point they no longer exist because yang and yin can not exist without their relationship to each other.

 

Penel

 

 

[Guest guest]

interesting statement, i would disagree and agree with you at the

very same time the fact is just as with anything else

interpretation of any subject is a personal one, as you have

stated " the fingers pointing at the moon " theory that not one person

will come up with the very same explanation of the same thing,

similar, but not the same......that being said i take teaching and

nurtering to be similar, and can be both yin and yang.....now the one

misconception of the whole yin and yang theory lies in the fact that

its viewed 2 dimensionally, that is flat and round, black and white,

good and evil, male and female.......it is that and more.....when

taken in whole it means the balance that is achieved by the

interaction of all these things, but not specific to the thing within

itself. Your looking at the radical or extreme point of view, saying

that if " it " is not " that " then " it " must be " this " . This is a

fallacy most people (including myself at times) have....i agree that

from what i understand most of what traditional chinese medicine

deals with occurs within the realm of balancing out extremes, but

what most individuals fail to see (please i mean this in the general

sense) is that there were a whole range of things that dealt within

the concept of belief. That is they believed in a whole range of

things, and they felt it affected not only the person, but everything

as a whole. Its almost on the verge of chaos theory (a butterfly

flaps its wings on one side of the world causing a hurricane on the

other side)where they felt that certain " things " or " conditions "

where caused and to balance that " thing " or " condition " steps needed

to be taken. you have a stomach ache, a doctor would come by and feed

you an herb, maybe poke you with a pin or 2 you feel fine...ok, what

happened? well if you would ask the doctor he would say that he saw

that your pain came from a deficiency of yin or yang in your system

caused by diet, or external conditions such as the weather, planetary

alingnment, or time of day......he being the wise person that he is

would take actions that would set you straight and off you

went...part of the healing process there primarily dealt with the

belief of both individuals, yes i would say that the fact that the

herb which was a mint (which aids in minor digestive problems)and the

fact that he told the person not to eat those fried pork ears anymore

(which caused the stomach ache in the first place) helped, but like i

said there is more to that healing than meets the eye........anyway,

something for you to chew on (heheh, pun intended), enjoyed your

post!!

 

Warrior

 

Chinese Traditional Medicine, " Penel Eynde LeGrand " <penel@s...> wrote:

> > By the way, this is the reason why more men than women post on

this list -

> > or any other list.

>

> The reasoning of this statement makes me uncomfortable in its

relationship to the yang as masculine tendency to teach while yin as

feminine to nurture.

> (and please note, my understanding of English keeps me from

saying " male " and " female " when describing yang and yin.)

>

> I see it this way.

> Yang communication on the internet tends to be when someone has an

idea and they want the world to have that idea the same way because

they know this idea to be true.

>

> Yin communication on the internet tends to be, Oh, so that is how

you understand an idea and this is way here is how I understand an

idea.

> I understand that your understanding might be different.

> That we both might have different understandings isn't wrong. (Once

again to the picture of many " fingers pointing to the moon " .)

>

> Knowing how I or you think, even though it might be different from

each other's, gives us insight into each other's true nature so we

can accommodate each other within our communications with each other.

> (There is nothing more female than male about this statement. It is

more feminine however. Males can be quite naturally in touch with

their feminine side.)

>

> Yang might seem more teaching though not totally devoid of

nurturing because to have what might be the correct concept could be

beneficial.

> (Oh gosh, I can't even explain Yang without going extremely yin!)

> Nurturing is done with acknowledgement to the receptor's nature.

That a lesson is be being taught might not be as obvious.

>

> Very yang internet communication can be very frustrating. I try not

to go there. When people refuse to give up their own understanding of

a subject (hinting at their own tendency to the yang) and adopt how

the yang writer wants them to think ... that's when " flaming " could

kick in.

> Very Yin communication on the internet is at its most extreme point

when folks just " lurk " .

>

> Both yin and yang carried to the extreme can only occur to the

point of unsubscribing, at which point they no longer exist because

yang and yin can not exist without their relationship to each other.

>

> Penel