Comparison of different silver products

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Comments:

 

Angstrom Silver - Way too high PPM. Anything much over 20 ppm tends

to clump and form large particle silver.

 

Molecula Silver (molecular silver) - I am not familiar with the

product, which is sold by the thirty year retired Nevada fireman along

with several other products on his site. The claims and testimonials

look good, but the same can be said of a dozen or more silver products

that all claim to have some unique quality or process that supposedly

makes them superior to all others. I KNOW how Utopia Silver (for over

a year I worked directly above the manufacturing lab) is made and know

many true success stories associated with it, and I know that in

testing it and Mesosilver ranked above all other silver products

tested by a large margin. Utopia Silver's owner has 30 years

experience in high voltage electrical generators and the owner of

Mesosilver, who used the Utopia Silver generator process as the basis

of his silver, is a MIT PhD graduate who performed work for years for

NASA.

 

Theta Nano Particle Silver - which uses a quote from Robert Becker to

tout it, the same as does Molecula Silver. 2500 PPM is an outrageous

concentration. As far as size go, the ionic particles in both Utopia

Silver and Mesosilver (they both contain about 30% ionic silver plus

colloidal silver) range as small as slightly more than twice the size

of a silver atom, which is far, far below nanometer size and for all

intents and purposes virtually impossible to go much smaller.

 

It all comes down to particle size and the ability to deliver the

silver to the site where it is needed. I know Utopia Silver does that

(as does Mesosilver) and I have never seen anything yet that has

convinced me that it is even close, though Covalent Silver sounds

promising.

 

Myself, I will stick with and recommend what I know has worked best

for myself and others and see no money to spend my money or tell other

peoples to spend theirs on products which may or may not work as well.

 

As a final note: Utopia Silver is a friend of this forum and the owner

is a friend of mine. Even so, my main interest is the health of our

members and I will not recommend their products or any others to the

exclusion of superior products IF someone can convince me that the

other products are superior. So far no one has done that when it comes

to colloidal silver or gold.

 

 

oleander soup , " Katy " <katypomelov wrote:

>

> I've actually experimented with different types of silver. Besides

> Colloidal Silver

[Guest guest]

I can speak for molecular silver because

we use it at OAW. I don’t think that the Nevada fireman that is

promoting it actually makes the silver that he sells. This silver has a

long history but has not always been available to the public. I know the

manufacturer (possibly there are others but I don’t think so at this

point) and this person is absolutely phenominal in knowledge and expertise of

all minerals and how they react in and with the body and has been making this

silver for over 15 years plus taking it himself every day with no problems.

There is absolutely nothing added to this silver. This is not someone

making small quantities in his kitchen and selling it to others or private

labeling someone else’s silver.

 

I’m sure there are several very good silvers. Every one markets, even if

it is just by saying “I use xyz and it is great!” That is marketing….and,

by the way, the best type of marketing. But with silver it seems that

there are so many experts, yet everyone seemingly says something different. We

also found out that everyone’s measuring-stick seems to be different

making it very difficult to do a fair comparison. It can be daunting, at

best. Molecular silver is difficult to measure with the standards that seem to

be accepted and as most things that may be unmeasureable or unfamiliar, if

something comes up “different” it is usually made to look inferior

or like it is junk-science. I have seen this happen with many health

modalities and supplementation because even those in natural medicine can have

difficulty in stepping out of the box….even me, sometimes. J I would suggest that because

of the times that we are in, we may not have tests or labs that can accurately

measure what people are coming up with. This doesn’t make a product

bad, in fact it may make it more cutting-edge….again, most will balk at

this and urge caution. I would agree in that caution should always be

urged in everything because ultimatley WE are the ones responsible for our

health and what goes into our body.

 

One thing for sure, to get results with silver (besides having a good silver)

you must be consistent and use therapeutic dosaging. Consistency and

therapeutic dosaging are two reasons why many people do not get good results

with natural medicine. It is also good to be on a protiotic while taking

silver. Some say that there is no worry with the digestive tract while

consuming silver, but no one absolutely knows that for sure. It’s also

good to take one or two days off after every five days to allow the body to

catch-up with die-off. If the liver is congested before you begin silver

then it is especially important to take a probiotic and to take a couple of

days off. It is always a good idea to support the liver when sick.

 

www.silver-colloids.com

– This site, while most likely containing a lot of truth, is owned by a

company who makes silver, so it will be biased in several areas. It is

just very difficult to get information on the “truth” about silver.

By “truth”, I mean exactly what method is the best or even IF there

is a best method and then finding those that use the best method. No one

wants to give their “secrets” away, if indeed they do have “secrets.”

;o) I have seen the qualifications for the “best” silver change at

least a few times on the Internet in the last eight years.

 

Also, the water that is used to make silver is VERY important. In fact

the type of water used for any product is very important. Water has

memory and this can have either a positive or negative effect on how the body

uses and assilimiates the product. Many silver manufacturers either don’t

know this or don’t believe it. In fact, if they should tell you it

doesn’t matter then I would take that as a “red-flag.”

 

 

Be Well

Loretta

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dr. Lanphier,

 

If you haven't already, you might want to visit

http://silvermedicine.org/. This is an unbiased and informative site for silver medicine.

 

Bob

 

-

Dr. Loretta Lanphier

oleander soup

Tuesday, October 07, 2008 7:40 PM

RE: Comparison of different silver products

 

 

I can speak for molecular silver because we use it at OAW. I don’t think that the Nevada fireman that is promoting it actually makes the silver that he sells. This silver has a long history but has not always been available to the public. I know the manufacturer (possibly there are others but I don’t think so at this point) and this person is absolutely phenominal in knowledge and expertise of all minerals and how they react in and with the body and has been making this silver for over 15 years plus taking it himself every day with no problems. There is absolutely nothing added to this silver. This is not someone making small quantities in his kitchen and selling it to others or private labeling someone else’s silver.I’m sure there are several very good silvers. Every one markets, even if it is just by saying “I use xyz and it is great!” That is marketing….and, by the way, the best type of marketing. But with silver it seems that there are so many experts, yet everyone seemingly says something different. We also found out that everyone’s measuring-stick seems to be different making it very difficult to do a fair comparison. It can be daunting, at best. Molecular silver is difficult to measure with the standards that seem to be accepted and as most things that may be unmeasureable or unfamiliar, if something comes up “different” it is usually made to look inferior or like it is junk-science. I have seen this happen with many health modalities and supplementation because even those in natural medicine can have difficulty in stepping out of the box….even me, sometimes. J I would suggest that because of the times that we are in, we may not have tests or labs that can accurately measure what people are coming up with. This doesn’t make a product bad, in fact it may make it more cutting-edge….again, most will balk at this and urge caution. I would agree in that caution should always be urged in everything because ultimatley WE are the ones responsible for our health and what goes into our body.One thing for sure, to get results with silver (besides having a good silver) you must be consistent and use therapeutic dosaging. Consistency and therapeutic dosaging are two reasons why many people do not get good results with natural medicine. It is also good to be on a protiotic while taking silver. Some say that there is no worry with the digestive tract while consuming silver, but no one absolutely knows that for sure. It’s also good to take one or two days off after every five days to allow the body to catch-up with die-off. If the liver is congested before you begin silver then it is especially important to take a probiotic and to take a couple of days off. It is always a good idea to support the liver when sick.

 

www.silver-colloids.com – This site, while most likely containing a lot of truth, is owned by a company who makes silver, so it will be biased in several areas. It is just very difficult to get information on the “truth” about silver. By “truth”, I mean exactly what method is the best or even IF there is a best method and then finding those that use the best method. No one wants to give their “secrets” away, if indeed they do have “secrets.” ;o) I have seen the qualifications for the “best” silver change at least a few times on the Internet in the last eight years.Also, the water that is used to make silver is VERY important. In fact the type of water used for any product is very important. Water has memory and this can have either a positive or negative effect on how the body uses and assilimiates the product. Many silver manufacturers either don’t know this or don’t believe it. In fact, if they should tell you it doesn’t matter then I would take that as a “red-flag.”

 

 

Be WellLoretta

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Bob

 

I would have to disagree.

I have seen the site before. They are selling a silver product, silver

generators and ozone machines. While some of their information may be

correct, they are definitely biased.

 

Be Well

Loretta

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dr. Lanphier,

 

 

 

 

 

If you haven't already, you might

want to visit

 

 

http://silvermedicine.org/.

This is an unbiased and informative site for silver medicine.

 

 

 

 

 

Bob

[Guest guest]

Heya Doc -

 

Good to hear the good information on Molecula. There is so much hype

and disinformation when it comes to silver that it is hard to tell

fact from fiction.

 

I agree with you about the water being an important consideration.

Just FYI, Utopia Silver uses non treated spring water straight from

the Edwards Aquifer that is run through three separate filters, each

of which have filter elements which alone costs more than most home

silver generators and which have to be replaced more than once a year.

 

The silver colloids site does have some of the best information when

it comes to colloidal silver and other colloidal metals. Yes, there is

a bias there - but not the outright bogus hype that so many sites

have. Too many sites have an impressive looking sales pitch but a

garage silver making setup with equipment that is little better than a

good Silver Puppy machine (and maybe not as good).

 

Anytime you folks want an even better colloidal silver product let me

know and I will hook you up.

 

: ^ )

 

 

oleander soup , " Dr. Loretta Lanphier "

<drlanphier wrote:

>

> Hi Bob

>

>

>

> I would have to disagree. I have seen the site before. They are

selling a

> silver product, silver generators and ozone machines. While some of

their

> information may be correct, they are definitely biased.

>

> Be Well

> Loretta