Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 Hi Dorothy, Thank you, thank you. This is an excellent explanation of the oils and Bach Remedies. I'm going to print it and also save it to my Health folder. And thank you for posting to the group. You have been very informative and this is only my first day of posting to the group. Eureka! I've struck oil! Carol No. CA/USA I don't post here often but I have a background in Bach Flower Remedies and so will answer your questions in relation to them. I have not looked at the form so I will not comment on it but to determine which Bach Flower Remedies to use you listen for keywords that the client uses to describe emotions, feelings and situations. Each of the 38 remedies has a key word or phrase. Many people after they read the descriptions think " I could use all 38! " But what a Bach Flowers Practitioner listens for are clues which allow priorities to be established. Dr. Bach when setting up his guidelines said that no more than 6 or 7 of the remedies should be combined at once. The way to determine which 6 or 7 (or less) to combines is by dealing with what is most pressing at the time. With respect to some remedies addressing what appears to be the same health issues, you are correct in using the term " appear " . Dr. Bach grouped the remedies in various categories but they do address slightly different aspects of the emotion. For example the remedies of Aspen and Mimulus are both for Fear but Aspen is for fear of the unknown or vague fears whereas Mimulus is for fear of a specific thing such as spiders. So if you have fear which remedy you use depends on whether you can attribute it to something specific or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 Hey Carol, Was that " pun intended " ? > Eureka! I've struck oil! > > Carol > No. CA/USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 Very good! You caught it. > Hey Carol, > > Was that " pun intended " ? > > > Eureka! I've struck oil! > > > > Carol > > No. CA/USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 Dorothy- I, too, am a flower essence practitioner, although not from the Bach background. I was trained by a teacher from the Delta Gardens/David Dalton and FES programs. Those companies explore a wider variety than the original 38 essences, and advocate a broader application of the essences. You can find the " form " for the Bach remedies right alongside them at the pharmacy/natural foods store. Some places even have a little CD- ROM you can plug in to the computer (it's about the size of a business card) to fill out the form, print a coupon, or scan through the essences. This form includes all the keywords practitioners are trained to look for, and can be a valuable guideline, but I think a visit to a practitioner will be beneficial since they will be able to combine the essences into a doseage bottle, prioritize the issues to deal with, and help diffuse any " healing crises " which may occur. I disagree with the following statement, however: > 2) the remedies do not directly deal with physical ailments whereas > essential oils can address things on an emotional level or a > physical level. Using Dandelion during massage will help to move stress that is stored in the muscular structure out. Many report a healing effect on psoriasis and eczema when Luffa is applied. (See the Gurudas book for these; _Flower Essences and Vibrational Healing_, or the FES _Flower Essence Repertory_)Black Pansy on a cold sore or herpes outbreak can shorten the healing time and prevent reoccurrance (Gurudas advocates the use of Pansy for any viral infections, I use Black from personal experience). Rescue Remedy/Crisis Care/Five- Flower Essence help to ease pain in a scrape, burn, even broken bone. It all depends on who you listen to. If you restrict yourself to Bach only, the above does not apply whatsoever; many Bach practitioners refuse to acknowledge the healing powers of additional flowers beyond the original 38. I strongly believe that every flower has a message for us; some need their essence to be shared, some don't. Only through personal experience with the voice of the plants can we examine and decide which information we choose to incorporate into our practice and which to discard. There are some scientific studies out there, but they are few and far between. Of course, there are others who say the flower essences are nothing but pure hooey. That's fine too. Not my opinion, but they're entitled to it nonetheless. The way I differentiate between flower essences and essential oils is that FE's are a vibrational derivative of the plant they come from, whereas EO's are a physical derivative of the plant they come from. Some of my favorite sites on the topic are www.fesflowers.com (this is Flower Essence Services, and they produce the widest variety of North American flowers); www.greenhopeessences.com (Green Hope Farms in Meriden, NH; a great selection of flowers from Northestern US and the Caribbean); www.lichenwood.com (my teacher, Christine Tolf), www.deltagardens.com (David Dalton, fantastic teacher, excellent source for physical uses of FE's); nd www.findhornessences.com (info from one of the most amazing experiments in plant-human relations). Just a second opinion, one among many! Green Blessings, Rebecca Jones Kestrel Crossings www.kestrelcrossings.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 Bev, Thank you for posting these sites to the group. I believe I will find everything I need, especially books. Healing with Bach remedies is a study unto itself. I'm absolutely fascinated with the subject and joined the talk Bach . Excellent gtoup. Once again, thank you. Carol No. CA/USA ------------------------------- > An excellent resource for finding out more about the Bach Flower > Remedies is the Bach Foundation Page which has loads on information on > the Remedies, How they are made, How to use them etc. etc. > http://www.bachcentre.com/found/firstpag.htm > http://www.bachcentre.com/centre/firstpag.htm > > If you are really interested in finding out more about the Bach Remedies > this is a good place to start. > > All the best > > Bev > > Beverley von Marksfeld-Fuhrherr, RA BFRP > West Coast Institute of Aromatherapy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 Great stuff on the Bach Flower Remedies! I haven't read the entire thread, but thought I would just throw in that there are a lot of people making their own remedies. When I first moved to AZ, I met a woman who made 40 essences from desert plants. She chose those right for me by muscle testing. I've used the Bach remedies for 20 years with awesome results. What a profound difference these have made in my life, especially on my spiritual path. I've tried others and liked them, but I always return to Bach. I guess just because I feel assured of the quality and effectiveness 100% of the time. As a woman in perimenopause, I wouldn't be without Rescue Remedy. I have a bottle in my purse and on my desk at all times! Michelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 I love using the Rescue Remedy!! I am not familiar with all of the others but the rescue remedy I carry in my purse all the time....it can keep someone from going into shock and buy you some time for the hopsital. My son-in-law got his whole hand slammed in a car door and we were up in the mountains away from anywhere. He turned white in the face and was beginning to pass out and so I put a dropperful in his mouth and in less than a minute he got up off the ground and said he was ready to get in the car and go. I have used it in various situations and found it to be very effective. 10 minutes before I have to do any public speaking I will take a few drops and it calms down the butterflies in my stomach and I actually feel like I can handle this. I don't like being without it. I can't speak for the other ones that they have but I LOVE the Rescue Remedy. Sara > Is anyone familiar with using Bach remedies? Is it all it's cracked up > to be? I am reading a website that claims so much it seems hard to > believe. I'm looking for advice on whether to invest money on these > remedies and how effective they are. > > Thanks! > > Tori > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 Tori, We use it on our dogs. We had a dog that went thru a big scare at a dog show, and made him scared to go so we gave him Rescue remedy along with some other remedies, we saw a big difference, which makes me believe it works since an animal cannot lie. Dolores --- Collee Wright <colleepatton wrote: > > Tori > We use the Rescue Remedies in our home. It really > seems to help in stressful > situations. My 11 year old grandson has test stress. > We gie it to him along > with a prayer and he does well with it. Hope this > helps some. > collee > > > Is anyone familiar with using Bach remedies? Is it > all it's cracked up > to be? I am reading a website that claims so much it > seems hard to > believe. I'm looking for advice on whether to invest > money on these > remedies and how effective they are. > > Thanks! > > Tori > > " Understanding is the reward of faith. Therefore > seek not to understand that > you may believe, but believe that you may > understand. " > Augustine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 I adore Bach flower remedies. I use all kinds of them. They helped me in labor, post partum depression, childrens nightmares, getting aroaund to cleaning, behavioral issues, depression, and more. If you are interested in the particulars for any of these, I would be happy to go into much more detail. Ramona > > > Is anyone familiar with using Bach remedies? Is it all it's cracked > up > > to be? I am reading a website that claims so much it seems hard to > > believe. I'm looking for advice on whether to invest money on these > > remedies and how effective they are. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Tori > > > > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural > remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from > list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members > free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 where do you find the recipe for the rescue remedy? herbal remedies [herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of sarabraun56Monday, May 08, 2006 2:43 PMherbal remedies Subject: Herbal Remedies - Re: Bach flower remedies I love using the Rescue Remedy!! I am not familiar with all of the others but the rescue remedy I carry in my purse all the time....it can keep someone from going into shock and buy you some time for the hopsital. My son-in-law got his whole hand slammed in a car door and we were up in the mountains away from anywhere. He turned white in the face and was beginning to pass out and so I put a dropperful in his mouth and in less than a minute he got up off the ground and said he was ready to get in the car and go.I have used it in various situations and found it to be very effective. 10 minutes before I have to do any public speaking I will take a few drops and it calms down the butterflies in my stomach and I actually feel like I can handle this. I don't like being without it. I can't speak for the other ones that they have but I LOVE the Rescue Remedy.Sara> Is anyone familiar with using Bach remedies? Is it all it's cracked up > to be? I am reading a website that claims so much it seems hard to > believe. I'm looking for advice on whether to invest money on these > remedies and how effective they are.> > Thanks!> > Tori> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 In a message dated 5/8/2006 5:10:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, braun.es writes: Where can you get Bach Remedies? And Rescue Remedy!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 I have used the Rescue Remedy (liquid) on myself and my daughter. I find it really helps to get me calm when I need it. My daughter, on the other hand, has a sensitivity to it, and pees frequently and uncontrollably when I give it to her. I have heard that stores that sell them have a checklist so you can match the essence to your specific needs. Samantha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Well, IF IT IS A CON, There are many bigger cons.Try Aspen for stress, and mimulus for fear of known things. It is the cheapest medicine around, even a little bottle seems to last for ever.I use bigger writing, because it seems to shrink when posted.On 5/8/06, Dolores Enriquez < lisasmama wrote: Tori, We use it on our dogs. We had a dog that went thru a big scare at a dog show, and made him scared to go so we gave him Rescue remedy along with some other remedies, we saw a big difference, which makes me believe it works since an animal cannot lie. Dolores --- Collee Wright <colleepatton wrote: > > Tori > We use the Rescue Remedies in our home. It really > seems to help in stressful > situations. My 11 year old grandson has test stress. > We gie it to him along > with a prayer and he does well with it. Hope this > helps some. > collee > > > Is anyone familiar with using Bach remedies? Is it > all it's cracked up > to be? I am reading a website that claims so much it > seems hard to > believe. I'm looking for advice on whether to invest > money on these > remedies and how effective they are. > > Thanks! > > Tori > > " Understanding is the reward of faith. Therefore > seek not to understand that > you may believe, but believe that you may > understand. " > Augustine Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 .. The Bach flower remedies may help you to find and restore harmony to your life by soothing whatever ails you, whether it be heartache, grief fatigue or despair. Bach remedies were created by Dr. Edward Bach and accord with his philosophy that every symptom of the body, mind and spirit has a message that you may learn from. By attuning to his own mental states and becoming aware of what was required to enable healing, Dr. Bach was guided to each flower to create his remedies. Transformative medicine He found each negative mental state holds potential for positive transformation and that through the experience of healing you will be guided toward "wholeness." Each remedy is specifically chosen for the emotional conditions that are currently being experienced. Negative states are due to blocked energy and should be treated by the remedv that best describes it. Your mental and emotional states are complex, and any blockages within these can filter down to your physical body, causing negative symptoms and disease. Bach flower remedies work through healing the patterns that have been set up, removing blockages and treating the physical problems that are linked to these. When choosing the right remedy, it is important to consider your predominant mental or emotional state and choose the flower whose pattern most closely matches what you are feeling at this time. Sometimes a single remedy is enough; at other times you may need several remedies -for example, the Rescue Remedy incorporates five flowers and is used as a short-term therapy for shock and trauma. SPECIFIC REMEDY For more specific states, choose a single flower remedy or a combination of up to seven remedies to take regularly, until the effects are felt. There are many books available on Bach flower remedies, giving detailed interpretations of the mental, emotional and physical states associated with each treatment. Before choosing a remedy, you need to ascertain the exact nature of the problem and whether it is short or long-term. This will affect the remedy and course of treatment you choose. A short-term ailment might be suffering a nervous attack before public speaking or an exam, while long-term problems such as anger and resentment or an inability to concentrate might be due to a deep-rooted mental or emotional state. RECORD YOUR ANXIETIES Write down a list of what you are currently feeling and the problems that have arisen through this. It may help you to look through a list of Bach flower remedies, available in most stores that sell them and giving brief information on the symptoms. Then read an in-depth profile of the ones that seem to mirror your pattern or problem. The process of self-treatment - selecting your remedies through listening and paying attention to mental and emotional states - is key to the philosophy of Bach. Learning to focus on what you are experiencing helps you to understand yourself more profoundly; this leads to the attainment of self-knowledge and inner harmony. If you feel confused by the choices available, however, it is best to consult a Bach practitioner to talk through your symptoms and help gauge your underlying feelings or mental states. The Bach remedies treat the causes of physical, emotional and mental problems by removing the energy blocks that have initially created the issue. The remedies are subtle but effective and can work very swiftly depending on whether the problem is short-term or chronic. ENERGY RANGE The flowers used are attuned to particular energy wavelengths or frequencies, and taking the essences helps redress the balance that has been lost through conflict in an area of your being. The Bach designed his remedies to work subtly with the body's energies, to help regain a natural state of balance. Keep your thoughts positive, because your thoughts become your words.Keep your words positive, because your words become your behavior.Keep your behavior positive, because your behavior becomes your habits.Keep your habits positive, because your habits become your values.Keep your values positive, because your values become your destiny. - Mahatma Gandhi Check Out My Groups: Everything Natural http://health./ Everything Magick EverythingMagick/ My Blogs: http://.blogspot.com/ http://bee-witched.blogspot.com/ http://kitchenwitchrecipes.blogspot.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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