Guest guest Posted June 28, 2007 Report Share Posted June 28, 2007 Sharon, Thank you for replying. You suggested I use zeolite to treat my daughter's lump in her breast. I do believe that like cures like and it is okay to consume homeopathic remedies that contain poison to cure a snake or scorpion bite, but I am startled at the research information I found on zeolite. I wouldn't trust this " product " after I found out how they chemically synthesis it and what they use it for. In the chemical industry, zeolites have applications, such as petrochemicals, detergents, fine chemical synthesis and nuclear processing. Many commercial washing powders thus contain substantial amounts of zeolite. Commercial waste water containing heavy metals, and nuclear effluents containing radioactive isotopes can also be cleaned up using such zeolites. Zeolites are often made by recycling fly ash and combining it with volcanic glasses and quartz crystals and treated with NAOH, then used in waste water treatment plants. This is used in waste-water treatment plants to remove heavy metal pollutants http://www.mrs.org/s_mrs/bin.asp?CID=2306 & DID=47007 & DOC=FILE.PDF Please read this link from the Journal of Materials Research. My daughter is a living and breathing human being with living cells. I would not put zeolite into her body knowing it can come from fly ash created in incinerators, and then is used to treat sewer water, or is found in commercial detergents, washing powders, and petroleum products. I spoke to a confidential source who I have learned to trust over the years and this person stated, " Chelation is used only for the TCM excess constitution, not for the TCM deficient constitution. Chelation is largely a fad idea. Detox is a much larger umbrella idea. So using a chelation product for detox generally I'd say is a very bad idea and not tolerable or will cause damage to the deficient constitution. " . With this information for me to consider, and wondering if my child's liver needs detox. Instead of chelation, I may put her on an 8 week Liver Detox Food Plan, and only serve her free range products without hormones or antibiotics, if this is the case. We go back in two weeks for a second sonogram and examination. My daughter had her period the day of the sonogram which came back GOOD, even though everyone felt the large ,hard, lump near her sternum. We are going to remain preventative, positive and proactive. My daughter stated the lump disappeared and then came back so I believe that the reoccurrence of tenderness and the changes in size of the lump may be cyclical with her period. The sonogram did not show a cyst configuration, and there was only one lump in one breast. This makes it difficult to rule out more serious masses. I had lumpy breasts, and so did my Mom. . I had a fine needle aspiration in 1997 when a mass showed up in my routine mammogram, and it was a calcification. I am part of a University study and have yearly exams to monitor. The same year my daughter was diagnosed with a cyst in her right kidney which took up 1/3 of her 6 year old kidney on her right side. It has almost disappeared now. http://medherb.com/92JILL.HTM I found something very interesting and feel compelled to pass this along to you. I just want to mention that my 15 year old daughter is not on birth control pills, nor does she drink alcohol, coffee, cola, tea, and rarely eats chocolate. She does not take drugs, or smoke. She does, however, eat meat when at her father's house, and asks me to prepare vegetarian meals while here with me. I have a great idea - since her cholesterol is a bit high, and we have been working on lowering it through exercise and a food plan, I am going to ask the Pediatrician to read this link below. According to naturopathic theory, people who consume a lot of meat, eggs, and dairy products may also ingest estrogens in small amounts due to hormonal residues in animal products. Animals are often fed estrogens to bring them to market weight more quickly, or to increase milk and egg production. Hormonal residues consumed on a regular basis may also contribute to the hormonal load on the body. Recently, the hormonal influences of accumulated pesticides in the environment has also drawn scientific attention. The view in naturopathic medicine is that, since it is the liver's job to metabolize hormones in circulation, liver disease can lead to the development of hyperestrogenism and fibrocystic breasts. The liver removes active estrogens from circulation, conjugating them and releasing them to the gastrointestinal tract for elimination. When the liver is inundated with work to do, such as processing many hormones, emulsifying fats and cholesterol, removing toxins, pesticides, drugs, alcohol, or other substances from the blood, it may have a difficult job metabolizing estrogens. When the bowels are constipated or when there are undesirable bacterial flora present, estrogens that have been conjugated in the liver for elimination are unconjugated in the intestine, reabsorbed, and returned to the liver a second and even third time, adding to the liver's workload. Methyl- xanthines occurring in coffee, cola, chocolate, and black teas will also aggravate fibrocystic disease. Nutrients necessary for optimal transformation and conjugation of estrogen in the liver (Phase 1 liver detoxification) Magnesium Copper Zinc Folic Acid Vitamin C Vitamins B2, B3, B5, B12 Thank you for your information. I learned a lot about chelation therapy, today, while researching your method of liquid zeolite, but I intuit that this would do grave harm to my child. And giving her Nat Mur was the correct constitutional remedy for her. in your heart, starlight in your soul, and miracles in your life. in loving kindness, Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 Hi Linda, There's a huge misunderstanding here and I'm not sure why you're replying to my personal email to you at this group but here's the reply I also sent to you: There are over 100 kinds of zeolite. They pack nuclear waste in zeolite. It's used for filtration of air and water as well. It's also used in animal feed which eliminates the need for antibiotics and hormones (got that info straight from a pig farmer). Of course not all are safe for human consumption. Even asbestos is a form of zeolite. What I meant is the zeolite that's been activated and is completely toxin-free. It's been shown anecdotally to lower viral loads in the liver, get rid of cancer, and in a clinical study shown to remove 7-12 times the amounts of heavy metals in the body. I know at least 200 people who have been helped with it. I know no one who has not had a result with it. The one we use and have success with is the one from Waiora. There are numerous doctors and naturopaths using it and many anti-aging clinics are starting to switch from standard chelation which removes good minerals as well as lead, to the zeolite which leaves mineral intact and only removes toxins. With time, people who have tested their minerals have actually shown an increase in good minerals since when the toxic metals are removed, the mineral receptors are freed up to absorb minerals. Natural Cellular Defense from Waiora has GRAS status (generally recognized as safe) by the FDA and even breastfeeding mothers or pregnant women can take it. 100% of the zeolite is removed from the body within 6 hours. This has been measured in a clinical setting. The zeolite used is clinoptilolite and is formed from volcanic ash and seawater. Chelation is not a fad and is quickly becoming a necessity. The typical forms of healing are not working as well anymore because to the toxins in body. Even babies are being born with over 200 carcinogens in their body. There is not danger whatsoever of hurting anyone with zeolite. You can take an entire bottle and will not get sick (my little dog actually did that!). If it were a grave danger, I certainly would not be risking my reputation to recommend it. Be very careful where you get your information from and how you interpret it. I had a very sick child, tried multiple therapies and supplements (I used to work for a holistic doctor as well) over many years. The zeolite finally removed her daily migraine headaches within days. Tens of thousands of dollars of other so-called cures didn't help her. When the liver is clean, hormones will be broken down and eliminated. Be wary about cholesterol as well. Most of the information about it's harmfulness is false. Cholesterol is a protection for us. Search Google for Dr. Sherry Rogers about this. Sincerely, Sharon PS: for one of the world's leading experts in chelation, hormone therapy, etc, listen to this research scientist and doctor speaking about zeolites: www.ncdpro.com/detoxqueen. I am not trying to solicit here, but I feel sorry for sick teenagers since I had a sick daughter myself until age 14 1/2 when she started on the zeolites. NOTHING else worked for her and it cost me many tens of thousands of dollars until I found this cheap way to get her well. , " Linda " <LindyBowers wrote: > > Sharon, Thank you for replying. You suggested I use zeolite to treat > my daughter's lump in her breast. > > I do believe that like cures like and it is okay to consume > homeopathic remedies that contain poison to cure a snake or scorpion > bite, but I am startled at the research information I found on > zeolite. I wouldn't trust this " product " after I found out how they > chemically synthesis it and what they use it for. > > In the chemical industry, zeolites have applications, such as > petrochemicals, detergents, fine chemical synthesis and nuclear > processing. Many commercial washing powders thus contain substantial > amounts of zeolite. Commercial waste water containing heavy metals, > and nuclear effluents containing radioactive isotopes can also be > cleaned up using such zeolites. > > Zeolites are often made by recycling fly ash and combining it with > volcanic glasses and quartz crystals and treated with NAOH, then > used in waste water treatment plants. > > This is used in waste-water treatment plants to remove heavy metal > pollutants > > > http://www.mrs.org/s_mrs/bin.asp?CID=2306 & DID=47007 & DOC=FILE.PDF > Please read this link from the Journal of Materials Research. > > My daughter is a living and breathing human being with living cells. > I would not put zeolite into her body knowing it can come from fly > ash created in incinerators, and then is used to treat sewer water, > or is found in commercial detergents, washing powders, and petroleum > products. > > I spoke to a confidential source who I have learned to trust over the > years and this person stated, > > " Chelation is used only for the TCM excess constitution, > not for the TCM deficient constitution. Chelation is largely a fad > idea. Detox is a much > larger umbrella idea. So using a chelation product for detox > generally I'd say is a > very bad idea and not tolerable or will cause damage to the deficient > constitution. " . > > > With this information for me to consider, and wondering if my child's > liver needs detox. Instead of chelation, I may put her on an 8 week > Liver Detox Food Plan, and only serve her free range products without > hormones or antibiotics, if this is the case. > > We go back in two weeks for a second sonogram and examination. My > daughter had her period the day of the sonogram which came back GOOD, > even though everyone felt the large ,hard, lump near her sternum. We > are going to remain preventative, positive and proactive. My > daughter stated the lump disappeared and then came back so I believe > that the reoccurrence of tenderness and the changes in size of the > lump may be cyclical with her period. The sonogram did not show a > cyst configuration, and there was only one lump in one breast. This > makes it difficult to rule out more serious masses. I had lumpy > breasts, and so did my Mom. . I had a fine needle aspiration in 1997 > when a mass showed up in my routine mammogram, and it was a > calcification. I am part of a University study and have yearly exams > to monitor. The same year my daughter was diagnosed with a cyst in > her right kidney which took up 1/3 of her 6 year old kidney on her > right side. It has almost disappeared now. > > > http://medherb.com/92JILL.HTM > > I found something very interesting and feel compelled to pass this > along to you. I just want to mention that my 15 year old daughter is > not on birth control pills, nor does she drink alcohol, coffee, cola, > tea, and rarely eats chocolate. She does not take drugs, or smoke. > She does, however, eat meat when at her father's house, and asks me > to prepare vegetarian meals while here with me. I have a great idea - > since her cholesterol is a bit high, and we have been working on > lowering it through exercise and a food plan, I am going to ask the > Pediatrician to read this link below. > > According to naturopathic theory, people who consume a lot of meat, > eggs, and dairy products may also ingest estrogens in small amounts > due to hormonal residues in animal products. Animals are often fed > estrogens to bring them to market weight more quickly, or to increase > milk and egg production. Hormonal residues consumed on a regular > basis may also contribute to the hormonal load on the body. Recently, > the hormonal influences of accumulated pesticides in the environment > has also drawn scientific attention. > > The view in naturopathic medicine is that, since it is the liver's > job to metabolize hormones in circulation, liver disease can lead to > the development of hyperestrogenism and fibrocystic breasts. The > liver removes active estrogens from circulation, conjugating them and > releasing them to the gastrointestinal tract for elimination. When > the liver is inundated with work to do, such as processing many > hormones, emulsifying fats and cholesterol, removing toxins, > pesticides, drugs, alcohol, or other substances from the blood, it > may have a difficult job metabolizing estrogens. When the bowels are > constipated or when there are undesirable bacterial flora present, > estrogens that have been conjugated in the liver for elimination are > unconjugated in the intestine, reabsorbed, and returned to the liver > a second and even third time, adding to the liver's workload. Methyl- > xanthines occurring in coffee, cola, chocolate, and black teas will > also aggravate fibrocystic disease. > > Nutrients necessary for optimal transformation and conjugation of > estrogen in the liver (Phase 1 liver detoxification) > Magnesium > > Copper > > Zinc > > Folic Acid > > Vitamin C > > Vitamins B2, B3, B5, B12 > > Thank you for your information. I learned a lot about chelation > therapy, today, while researching your method of liquid zeolite, but > I intuit that this would do grave harm to my child. And giving her > Nat Mur was the correct constitutional remedy for her. > in your heart, starlight in your soul, and miracles in your life. > > in loving kindness, > Linda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 I just want to add my experience with waiora's zeolite. I had heard such good things, and the lady I got it from swears it kept her from going on the kidney transplant list--that her kidney was considered dead and yet, after taking waiora's zeolite it began functioning again. Now--there's nothing wrong with me, but I figured with the lives we all lead in today's pollution that it would be good to take it and clean out any toxins and support my organs. Thing is--it did nothing at all for me, no detox, no energy uplift, nothing. Kind of an expensive experiment. :-) But, I would say that I'm one of the few that have had that experience. Most everyone that tries it sees very good results. Just so you know, though, no matter what Waiora says--there are those that it has no effect on. Samala, Renee ---- I know no one who has not had a Result with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 I'm sure that Waiora has a money-back guarantee. Take advantage of it. The irony of the situation is that while many companies ostensibly " offer " these guarantees, either: 1) People don't follow through in utilizing them ,or 2)depending upon the company involved,when confronted with the proverbial " dragging feet in complying with the company's own " guarantee " , the customer feels intimidated and doesn't push on with their rfund request. Remember,the credit card that you used to purchase the product will probably assist you in procuring the refund, if you are doing it within the time frame. Good Luck Renee <gaiacita wrote: I just want to add my experience with waiora's zeolite. I had heard such good things, and the lady I got it from swears it kept her from going on the kidney transplant list--that her kidney was considered dead and yet, after taking waiora's zeolite it began functioning again. Now--there's nothing wrong with me, but I figured with the lives we all lead in today's pollution that it would be good to take it and clean out any toxins and support my organs. Thing is--it did nothing at all for me, no detox, no energy uplift, nothing. Kind of an expensive experiment. :-) But, I would say that I'm one of the few that have had that experience. Most everyone that tries it sees very good results. Just so you know, though, no matter what Waiora says--there are those that it has no effect on. Samala, Renee ---- I know no one who has not had a Result with it. Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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