Dr. Lorraine Day vs. Dr. Edell

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Dr. Lorraine Day vs. Dr. Edell

Nov 7, 2003

 

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I have been waiting for an " eye witness " report from Day Two of the Zundel Bail

hearings, but so far no one has written it up as yet. Also, unlike after

previous hearings, I did not see, nor did I get, a single media report. Have

you?

 

Isn't that odd? Remember how willing the Canadian media always were to smear and

smear and then smear some more? Now that there seems to have been some kind of

optimism about a potentially favorable outcome for Ernst - deafening silence!

 

I did talk to Ernst last night. He told me that the opposition was caught twice

in their own lies in that the judge requested to see unedited video footage, and

Ernst did not say what his enemies claimed. In fact, he said the opposite! The

judge was furious he had been so misled! Lots of squirming, hmming and hawwing.

 

The cross examination is now concluded. A decision about bail is supposed to be

made in December - almost a year after Ernst was taken into custody. What a

disgrace for Canada!

 

According to Ernst, these two days of hearing have given him some strategies he

did not have before.

 

While I am waiting for Paul Fromm's report, I am sending you a spin-off

follow-up from the preceding hearings. It seems that ABC's Dr. Edell saw fit to

do a royal smear job on Dr. Lorraine Day, the physician I had asked to fly to

Toronto and examine Ernst. She found herself promptly under assault in a

national ABC broadcast by the powers-that-be who manipulate the American

people's opinion.

 

She herself says: " Truth telling is always hazardous. But when it's in your

blood, there's no way you can stop. "

 

Let's let our enemies write THAT behind their filthy ears!

 

(Dr. Day, as an outsider, made a small mistake in thinking that the current

hearings are Human Rights hearings. This mistake on her part is understandable,

since questions in these hearings pertained to a previous Human Rights Tribunal

ruling that " truth is not a defense. " However, the current hearings are bail

hearings all mixed up and intertwined with government insinuations having led to

a security certificate that Ernst is a " threat to the security of Canada " and a

" terrorist " ... Some people surely know how to make a lush living smearing other

people, don't they?)

 

Here is Dr. Day, speaking her conviction:

 

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Lorraine Day, M.D. P.O. Box 8 Thousand Palms, CA 92276

 

November 3, 2003

 

Dr. Dean Edell ABC7/KGO-TV 900 Front Street San Francisco, CA 94111-1450

 

Dear Dr. Edell:

 

Recently, I received in the mail an audiotape of your program that aired on

October 5, 2003, in which you said many things about me that were either untrue,

or were attempts to make me guilty by association, or were innuendoes carefully

crafted to smear my reputation.

 

I realize that you personally know nothing about me nor do you personally know

anything about Ernst Zundel. What you said on the air obviously was prepared for

you by your superiors and handed to you with instructions for you to promote

what can only be defined as outright propaganda.

 

Briefly, the facts are these. I was asked by my friend of 13 years, Ingrid

Rimland Zundel, if I would be willing to fly to Toronto to medically examine her

husband, Ernst Zundel, who is also a friend of mine. Ernst, a German by birth

and a graphic artist by occupation, had immigrated to Canada as a young man but

had moved to the U.S. two years ago when he married Ingrid, a writer and a U.S.

citizen. Ernst is 64 years old.

 

Ernst and Ingrid had been living peacefully in Tennessee for two years when on

February 5, 2003, while he and a friend were framing some of his paintings in

anticipation of an exhibition of his work, Ernst was arrested by five officers -

one sheriff and four immigration officers, WITHOUT a warrant, placed in

handcuffs, forbidden to call his lawyer (his wife was also forbidden to call

their lawyer) and hauled away without being given any explanation as to where he

was being taken. (Who would have thought that could happen in America?)

 

Within two weeks, Ernst was illegally deported to Canada, WITHOUT a hearing, and

has been in prison, in 23 hour a day lock-down, since that time.

 

His " crime " ? He is accused of missing an immigration interview, hardly a " crime "

worthy of this type of draconian imprisonment. The truth is that Ernst Zundel

DID receive a notice for an immigration interview. His attorney sent a letter to

the Immigration Service asking that the interview be re-scheduled because he

(the attorney) was not available on that day, a legitimate request that always

had been routinely accommodated by the Immigration Service for any lawyer.

 

No answer was forthcoming from the Immigration Service. Ernst Zundel's attorney

then sent a second letter, return receipt requested, again stating the need for

a re-scheduling of Ernst's immigration interview.

 

No answer was forthcoming from the Immigration Service.

 

Months passed and Ernst received nothing from the Immigration Service which he

did not feel was unusual as they had told him that it would take many months for

his case to be processed.

 

Suddenly, on February 5, 2003, the Immigration Officers appeared, without

warning, to arrest him WITHOUT a warrant. Obviously, the excuse they gave for

arresting him has no validity. It is virtually unheard of for anyone in America

to be hauled off to PRISON in handcuffs because of a missed immigration

interview, and then held in 23 hour-a-day lockdown and branded a " terrorist. "

 

So what is Ernst Zundel's REAL " crime? "

 

First, you need to know that it is AGAINST THE LAW! in Canada, Germany, France,

Switzerland and, I believe, Australia and Austria - with punishment by

imprisonment or fine - to QUESTION the establishment's rendition of the

" Holocaust! "

 

In addition, " human rights " tribunals have been set up in Canada where a person

can be charged with a " human rights " violation - a thought crime - and be put on

trial without the protections given by a court of law, meaning that opponents

can testify against him in secret and make charges of any type, yet the person

" on trial " has no right to know who is testifying against him, what the secret

testimony is about, and the person on trial has no right to cross examine the

one who is testifying against him. Therefore, it is IMPOSSIBLE for the person on

trial to defend himself of the charges - since he has no way of knowing what the

charges are!

 

In addition, in these " human rights " tribunals in Canada it has been declared

that " Truth is NO defense. " In other words, it doesn't matter that what the

defendant said is TRUE, it only matters that someone else doesn't like the

defendant revealing the TRUTH!

 

What a shameful state of affairs for supposedly civilized countries! This is

just as bad or worse than the most wretched tyrannical dictatorship of a third

world country.

 

This should raise a bright red flag to any thinking person, especially any

thinking American. WHY would laws be passed to punish people for investigating

history? Who would pass such laws? And WHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO HIDE?

 

How Outrageous! Being imprisoned for investigating history? And this man was

essentially kidnapped illegally from his residence in the U.S., by U.S.

government officials, WITHOUT a warrant, and illegally extradited to Canada - -

- ALL for the " crime " of investigating history and disagreeing with the

establishment's viewpoint on the " holocaust " !

 

What did Ernst Zundel find when he investigated the establishment's rendition of

the " Holocaust? " He found many things amiss, including exaggerated numbers of

those supposedly killed in the concentration camps, the method by which they

died, etc.

 

So who is behind this reprehensible travesty of justice against Ernst Zundel?

Who wants to repress ANYONE who investigates history, including the supposed

" Holocaust, " and ANYONE who disagrees with the official party line?

 

The answer: Those who gain the most from perpetuating the establishment's

version of the " Holocaust, " those who have reaped billions of dollars in

reparations from Germany for the " Holocaust " , those who collect billions of

dollars in " loans " from the U.S. - " loans " that are NEVER repaid, those who use

those funds to keep other groups of people, including the Palestinians, the

Iraqis, and soon to be many other countries, under totalitarian control and in

abject poverty.

 

Who are these people? The Zionist Jews! Notice, I said the " Zionist " Jews, NOT

Jews in general. There are many Jews who do NOT agree with what the Zionist Jews

are doing, but the media, which is controlled by the Zionist Jews, rarely allows

the opinions of their fellow disagreeing Jews to be publicized.

 

For more information, please investigate www.zundelsite.org or www.rense.com

 

Since Ernst Zundel has been in prison, his blood pressure has risen so high that

he has been in danger of a stroke. He has been given blood pressure medication

that is causing adverse side effects. Also, he has developed a painful mass on

his sternum (breastbone).

 

I was asked by his wife, my long-time friend Ingrid Rimland Zundel, if I would

be willing to fly to Toronto and examine him medically and to testify in court

regarding his medical condition.

 

I immediately agreed to do that.

 

So, in brief, these are the facts. I was asked, as a physician, to examine a

friend of mine, a political prisoner who is illegally imprisoned, and give a

medical opinion in court regarding his medical condition.

 

That seems pretty simple and straight forward to me. But you, and those for whom

you work, apparently want to pervert this legitimate occurrence, wrap it in

numerous innuendoes, entwine my medical examination of Ernst with his beliefs

and the beliefs of numerous others that he may or may not have known, tie it

into my recovery from cancer by natural methods (what a trick that is!) and make

it into a piece of propaganda worthy of the Stalinist era of political purges.

 

I am fully aware of the influence that the pharmaceutical companies have on the

media. They provide millions of dollars in advertising for radio and television.

They certainly do NOT want ANYONE telling people how to get well from cancer by

natural methods, as I did. And the pharmaceutical companies are owned by those

who hold the same political mind-set as the media barons, those who own the

major newspapers, the television studios, the Hollywood movie studios and now,

the majority of the radio stations.

 

In your comments about me in your October 5 broadcast, you first try to impose

" guilt by association " on me, then you launch into a smear campaign against

Ernst Zundel. You call Ernst a " hate propagandist, " a " neo-nazi " and an

" anti-semitic, " but you give absolutely NO evidence for any of these charges.

 

Then you proceed to smear me by association with Ernst Zundel whom you have

already smeared without any evidence.

 

By the way, what does any of this have to do with my getting well from cancer?

Or my practice of medicine? What does this have to do with ANYTHING - except to

try to destroy my reputation and my credibility so YOUR handlers can sell more

drugs?

 

Here is a transcript of what you said, followed by my comments in bold.

 

" (Dr. Lorraine Day) is a heroine to a lot of you. She hasn't practiced for about

ten years. "

 

(L. Day comments: This statement is obviously meant, somehow, to be a slur on my

reputation. How do you define " practicing " medicine? How long has it been since

YOU have " practiced " medicine? You give out medical information publicly - and

so do I. So what is your point with that statement?

 

Must a physician see private patients in a private office in order to be

considered a " practicing " physician? How about all of the physicians in

administrative and research positions in Medical schools, hospitals and

government positions, such as the U.S. Surgeon General? Are they any less a

doctor just because they don't see patients privately, one on one? Are YOU less

of a doctor because of what YOU do? (If so, then why do YOU feel qualified to

give out medical information?)

 

" She claimed she cured her breast cancer with prayer and diet and that standard

medical treatment is not good for you - the standard stuff. "

 

(L.Day comments: You obviously don't have any idea how I got well. The plan I

used has Ten Steps, all of them are natural. Diet is only one of them. Trust in

God is another. But there are EIGHT more steps that are just as critical for

recovery as the two that you mentioned. But you chose to present my recovery in

such a way as to trivialize it and make it sound absurd.

 

However, you are certainly CORRECT in saying that I believe " that standard

medical treatment is not good for you. " I'll embrace that statement all day

long!)

 

" Well, here she reveals certain of her colors. "

 

(L. Day comments: What " colors, " pray tell, am I revealing, just because I

medically examine a prisoner? I have examined hundreds of prisoners in my

medical career. Why is that a problem for you? And what does that have to do

with my recovery from cancer? How ingeniously you link the two together, even

though one has NOTHING to do with the other. I have noticed, in my many

encounters with the press over the last fifteen years, how cleverly you, and

others in your position, refuse to deal with the issues and instead, attack the

individual's reputation with name-calling, just as you have done here - as

follows!)

 

" There's a fellow named Zundel. Canada is trying to review a declaration as a

threat to national security and to extradite him to Germany. His wife claims he

(Zundel) has used herbs to cure himself of inoperable terminal cancer many years

ago and he has had a recurrence because his detention would not permit him to

continue taking his herbs.

 

(L. Day comments: What does this have to do with me? I DIDN'T say that! Why do

you gratuitously throw it in here? Ernst Zundel's wife has a right to say what

she wants. How does it have anything to do with me? I DIDN'T say it!)

 

" This is a guy who basically is a hate propagandist,

 

(L. Day comments: Oh, PLEASE! What a worn-out phrase? Where is your proof? What

do you define as a " hate propagandist " - someone who says something - ANYTHING -

that your employers, the Zionist Jews, don't like?)

 

" is a neo-nazi

 

(L. Day comments: AGAIN - Oh, PLEASE! What is your definition of a neo-nazi? Any

German who is tired of the German-bashing constantly carried on by the Zionist

Jews?)

 

" and has for many years funded neo-nazi groups,

 

(L. Day comments: You have not defined " neo-nazi " so your charges of funding

" neo-nazi " groups are irrelevant and nothing more than smear tactics.)

 

" published neo-nazi and anti-semitic and holocaust denials, books such as " The

Hitler we loved and why. "

 

(L. Day comments: I personally have NEVER even heard of such a book. But, if

there is such a book, is freedom of speech only available to those who believe

EXACTLY as YOU do?

 

Let's stop right here and define the word " anti-semitic. " Frankly, I am sick and

tired of this term. Anti-semitic means those who are against (or " hate " ) people

who are of semitic origin. Arabs are semitic. Ernst doesn't hate Arabs nor does

he hate Jews, even though Jews CAN'T even generally be classified as semites, as

approximately 80% of them are descended from the Khazars from Khazaria, an area

in what is now Russia, where " Gentile " barbarians, in the 9th or 10th century,

purposely adopted Judaism both as a religion and as a culture.

 

So, 80% of ALL the Jews in the world today are actually Gentiles whose ancestors

adopted the Jewish culture and/or religion centuries ago.) Reference: Koestler,

Arthur (a Jewish author), The Thirteenth Tribe, 1976: Random House, Inc., New

York.

 

Since the Zionist Jews in Israel appear to be hell-bent on extermination of the

Palestinians, Israeli Zionist Jews must be classified as the most anti-semitic

people on the face of the earth. It's a case of the pot calling the kettle

black!

 

Ernst Zundel is NOT anti-semitic! He does not hate Arabs OR Jews. He has

repeatedly tried to open a dialogue with Jews from various organizations, to

discuss the issue of the Holocaust. But his enemies respond by burning down his

house and sending him bombs through the mail - TWICE - to try to kill him. Why

aren't THOSE people brought to justice and charged with HATE crimes?

 

So the charge of " anti-semitism " is meaningless and is nothing more than a smear

tactic. That term, " anti-semitic, " is used by Zionist Jews to intimidate anyone

who exposes their skullduggery. It is nothing more than " bully tactics " and very

unbecoming to those who use it. (I do hope you are aware of the many Jews,

including Israeli Jews, who strongly DISAGREE with the tactics of the Zionists,

and the many Jews who are very much AGAINST the Zionist Jews' treatment of the

Palestinians.)

 

" (Chuckling) So here's this neo-nazi

 

(Please see my above comments regarding the childish habit of name-calling while

you simultaneously refuse to discuss the issues.)

 

" and who stands up for him in court to defend this guy but Lorraine Day, M.D. "

 

(L. Day comments: I was NOT in court to " defend " Ernst Zundel. I was there, as a

physician, to examine him medically and to testify about his medical condition.

 

Do you, Dr. Edell, believe that if a man is imprisoned, whether legally or

illegally imprisoned, as is the case with Mr. Zundel, the prisoner should not be

allowed to be examined by a doctor? Is it your contention that human rights

should only extend to those who hold opinions that agree with yours and your

superiors?)

 

" He (Zundel) lists her as among the signers of a petition the government

officials have asserted (which states), 'Mr. Zundel is an honest, outspoken man

and doesn't deserve to be sent back to Germany to face a jail term, merely

because he has openly questioned the accuracy and veracity of what many claim to

have been a historical occurrence.

 

(L. Day comments: Yes, indeed, I was willing and anxious to sign the petition

for Ernst Zundel and I would sign it again and again, if need be. I am PROUD to

be a friend of a man who is willing to risk imprisonment and risk his very life,

to tell TRUTH - to expose the lies of those who plan to enslave most of the

people of the world.

 

I don't know that I believe everything Ernst Zundel believes, because I don't

KNOW everything that he believes. But I DO agree with his right to investigate

the accuracy of the events of history, including World War II and what is

inappropriately termed the " Holocaust. "

 

I have long been under the impression that America allows freedom of thought and

freedom of speech. Silly me!)

 

" Anyway - she's out there. "

 

(L. Day comments: Whatever that means! You bet I am! I am happy to be ANYWHERE

that TRUTH is being told. I fervently pray that I NEVER shrink from that duty,

no matter who tries to destroy my reputation.)

 

There is one important thing that those of you who attack TRUTH have not yet

realized, and that is that God brings attention to TRUTH - God magnifies TRUTH -

by allowing opposition to TRUTH. In other words, the more you and others attack

the TRUTH that we are teaching, the more the general population will want to

investigate this TRUTH.

 

When you mentioned me on your radio show, there were undoubtedly hundreds of

thousands, maybe millions, of people who had never heard of me before. And YOU

brought me to their attention. You have NO idea how creative people become in

finding TRUTH once their minds are made curious about it. So many people are

sick and they are becoming increasingly aware that orthodox medical treatments

DON'T WORK! So they hear about me - from YOU - and even though you are trying to

ruin my reputation and destroy my credibility, they see right through you and

will not stop until they hear my message!

 

So, I must say THANK YOU! I could not afford to buy such widespread publicity.

And you're doing it for me for FREE!

 

You, and others who attack truth would be much smarter to just leave us

truth-tellers alone, people like Ernst Zundel, Jeff Rense, Robert Faurrison, me,

and many others. But you become so obsessed with trying to stamp out truth that

you cannot leave us alone. But the more you rail against us, the more you

inadvertently bring people to us - the more you stimulate the curiosity of the

millions who want to know truth.

 

Since Ernst Zundel has been wrongfully imprisoned by the enemies of TRUTH, the

new people who have been attracted to his message and who are investigating the

TRUTH about the " holocaust " have increased by 400%!

 

You see, it's IMPOSSIBLE to stamp out truth. Truth can never be stamped out

because it is - Truth!

 

Here's an illustration: The woman who gave birth to you is your mother. That is

TRUTH! You could try to deny that fact and claim that some other woman was your

mother, but the woman who gave birth to you is STILL your mother. No matter how

much you shouted other people down, no matter how much you might wish your

falsehood to be true - it is NOT. No matter how many people you would put in

prison for telling the TRUTH about who your real mother is, the TRUTH would

still remain the TRUTH! The woman who gave birth to you is STILL your mother, no

matter how much you might try to deny it. TRUTH can NEVER be destroyed. It will

ALWAYS remain TRUTH!

 

Remember, Gamaliel was right when he spoke to his fellow Pharisees who wanted to

kill Peter and the other apostles who were preaching the truth about Jesus

Christ!

 

" Then stood there up one in the council, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of

the law, held in respect among all the people. . . and said unto them (his

fellow Pharisees),

 

'You men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what you intend to do regarding

these men. . . Keep away from these men, and let them alone: for if their

counsel or their work be of men, it will come to nothing. But if it is of God,

you CANNOT overthrow it; for you will find that you are fighting against God! "

Acts 5:34-39.

 

Wise words!

 

Dr. Edell, since you know nothing about me nor how I got well from

life-threatening cancer by totally natural methods, I am enclosing three of my

videotapes and my new workbook entitled Getting Started on Getting Well, as my

gift to you. Also, you may visit my web site at www.drday.com where you will

find much life-saving information as well as this letter to you, and my

responses to my other critics.

 

Sincerely,

 

Lorraine Day, M.D.

 

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