Can I make my own penicillin from bread mold?

[Guest guest]

I have often wondered if I were to take some green bread mold, and ingest

it, if it would be the same thing as taking penicillin?

 

I have spent a king's ransom on " the pink stuff. "

I know that $eptra is made from grapefruit mold, and I'm allergic to

grapefruit in strong quantities. (All Cephala$porific drugs, an internest told

me.

My face gets a rash)

Amoxil is what is most prescribed for me, my girls, and even my CAT!

There is a white mold on bread, too, that I have stayed away from. Usually

the bread starts to smell of vinegar. (Especially the brand " Bunny Bread. " )

 

I ate a tiny piece of green mold on white bread once, to see what would

happen. I don't mean when the whole bag of bread turns into green powder or

anything. I rarely see mold on a multi-grain bread.

Also, what about Bleu Cheese? Would that too have antibiotic properties???

 

Thanks for your input

Athena

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Nope... not hardly. The very first discovery of penicllin was credited

to Alexander Fleming but he was not truly the first to observe that

certian types (but not all types) of mold produced this penicillin. He

was never able to produce enough of it in a purified form to get

enought to even prove that it would work on a person.

 

This work was later taken up in 1939 by 3 other scientist at Oxford

Univercity. The school text books usually don't tell the entire story

and leave the reader with the wrong impression on this and usually

give total credit to Fleming. The mold that was used to get a large

amount of penicillin first was found growing on a cantalope at a

produce stand. Researchers hired people to collect every sort of mold

they could find to experiment with to try and find one that would

produce a usable amount. The right strain of mold just happen to be on

the cantaloupe.

 

Here is a summary of it...

 

http://www.accessexcellence.org/AE/AEC/CC/chance.html

 

Aubrey

 

 

 

 

 

, HeiressArts wrote:

>

> I have often wondered if I were to take some green bread mold, and

ingest

> it, if it would be the same thing as taking penicillin?

>

> I have spent a king's ransom on " the pink stuff. "

> I know that $eptra is made from grapefruit mold, and I'm allergic to

> grapefruit in strong quantities. (All Cephala$porific drugs, an

internest told me.

> My face gets a rash)

> Amoxil is what is most prescribed for me, my girls, and even my CAT!

> There is a white mold on bread, too, that I have stayed away from.

Usually

> the bread starts to smell of vinegar. (Especially the brand " Bunny

Bread. " )

>

> I ate a tiny piece of green mold on white bread once, to see what

would

> happen. I don't mean when the whole bag of bread turns into green

powder or

> anything. I rarely see mold on a multi-grain bread.

> Also, what about Bleu Cheese? Would that too have antibiotic

properties???

>

> Thanks for your input

> Athena

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Athena,

There is too little penicillin in a mold to be of any use to

humans. The wild spread us of penicillin since WWII has had side

effects on all of us. Widespread fungus was not found in most

people before that time. Now we all have it in our blood and it

causes problems from the toes to the head. Ex: Candita, crypto and

madura mycosis, etc. Fungus is linked to several cancers too.

You don't need it.

Try Col. Silver. It is a wide spectrum antibiotic and has been

around for 1000's of years. And, it is safe.

Buy a silver pulser lite from sotainstruments.com ($115.)

Or make a pulser and a col. silver maker.

Try a grp. called microelectricitygermkiller for the pulser.

There are several col. silver grps. See the files for plans to make

col. silver.

Namaste,

David

 

 

In , HeiressArts wrote:

>

> I have often wondered if I were to take some green bread mold, and

ingest

> it, if it would be the same thing as taking penicillin?

>

> I have spent a king's ransom on " the pink stuff. "

> I know that $eptra is made from grapefruit mold, and I'm allergic

to

> grapefruit in strong quantities. (All Cephala$porific drugs, an

internest told me.

> My face gets a rash)

> Amoxil is what is most prescribed for me, my girls, and even my

CAT!

> There is a white mold on bread, too, that I have stayed away

from. Usually

> the bread starts to smell of vinegar. (Especially the

brand " Bunny Bread. " )

>

> I ate a tiny piece of green mold on white bread once, to see what

would

> happen. I don't mean when the whole bag of bread turns into green

powder or

> anything. I rarely see mold on a multi-grain bread.

> Also, what about Bleu Cheese? Would that too have antibiotic

properties???

>

> Thanks for your input

> Athena

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

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In , HeiressArts wrote:

>

> I have often wondered if I were to take some green bread mold, and

ingest

> it, if it would be the same thing as taking penicillin?

>

> I have spent a king's ransom on " the pink stuff. "

> I know that $eptra is made from grapefruit mold, and I'm allergic

to

> grapefruit in strong quantities. (All Cephala$porific drugs, an

internest told me.

> My face gets a rash)

> Amoxil is what is most prescribed for me, my girls, and even my

CAT!

> There is a white mold on bread, too, that I have stayed away

from. Usually

> the bread starts to smell of vinegar. (Especially the

brand " Bunny Bread. " )

>

> I ate a tiny piece of green mold on white bread once, to see what

would

> happen. I don't mean when the whole bag of bread turns into green

powder or

> anything. I rarely see mold on a multi-grain bread.

> Also, what about Bleu Cheese? Would that too have antibiotic

properties???

>

> Thanks for your input

> Athena

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/10/2007 7:22:39 P.M. Central Standard Time,

okejee writes:

 

 

 

 

> I have often wondered if I were to take some green bread mold, and

> ingest it, if it would be the same thing as taking penicillin?

 

Antibiotics are usually made from molds. different fungi are used

for different ones. Fungi don't have the usual defenses like

bacteria. They protect themselves from their enemies instead with

toxins that are emitted to destroy anything that might 'attack' them.

That's why antibiotics work.

They are made from these toxins (poisons) that kill bacteria. Any

antibiotic taken in high enough quantity can kill you. So you have

to use the prescribed amount. The amount of amoxicillin you give to

a cat is much less that that prescribed for a child.

 

Some of the toxins (poisons) produced by fungi are very dangerous,

so please don't be eating any mold just to see what happens. Just

because you don't fall in the floor right then doesn't mean it is

safe. Aflatoxin is one of the most dangerous mold toxins. It causes

cancer. It can be in our food...might even be on that moldy bread

you are eating. There is no safe amount, so the government tests for

it, yet still allows a certain amount in our food (and milk) so it

isn't such a hardship on the farmers. Other types of molds produce

other toxins. The Salam Witch Trials are now thought to be caused

the ergot mold in the grains the girls were eating. It causes

hallucinations.hallucinations.<WBR>(That same mold toxin is

Read more info about it here:

_http://tomvolkfungihttp:_ (http://tomvolkfungi.net/)

type ERGOT in their search.

 

J

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wow. Am I glad I asked. Thank You. Once a " tasted " the end of a piece of

clover, because someone told me, hey do this! I DID fall on the kitchen

floor! My eyes went side to side rapidly. I witnessed this happening to my 7

year old daughter later, too. I think she tasted honeysuckle at her

grandmother's house. I thought she was faking! We had a brain scan

(CAT-scan?) the

next day and she was alright. What a scare. I've read of people dying from

eating old pancake mix with spores, too...

 

I will stick to yogurt and chicken soup. And the yogurt will be " in date. "

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

> I have often wondered if I were to take some green bread mold, and

> ingest it, if it would be the same thing as taking penicillin?

 

Antibiotics are usually made from molds. different fungi are used

for different ones. Fungi don't have the usual defenses like

bacteria. They protect themselves from their enemies instead with

toxins that are emitted to destroy anything that might 'attack' them.

That's why antibiotics work.

They are made from these toxins (poisons) that kill bacteria. Any

antibiotic taken in high enough quantity can kill you. So you have

to use the prescribed amount. The amount of amoxicillin you give to

a cat is much less that that prescribed for a child.

 

Some of the toxins (poisons) produced by fungi are very dangerous,

so please don't be eating any mold just to see what happens. Just

because you don't fall in the floor right then doesn't mean it is

safe. Aflatoxin is one of the most dangerous mold toxins. It causes

cancer. It can be in our food...might even be on that moldy bread

you are eating. There is no safe amount, so the government tests for

it, yet still allows a certain amount in our food (and milk) so it

isn't such a hardship on the farmers. Other types of molds produce

other toxins. The Salam Witch Trials are now thought to be caused

the ergot mold in the grains the girls were eating. It causes

hallucinations.(That same mold toxin is used to make LSD.)

Read more info about it here:

http://tomvolkfungi.net/

type ERGOT in their search.

 

J

[Guest guest]

Thing of it is, you would injest harmful molds, too, unless you had a

sophisticated lab and a chemistry degree to identify it, separate it out,

and purify it. Might be simpler to toss the bread and either revisit your

doctor or explore other alternatives.

 

You raised an interesting question regarding the properties of edible

molds. Mushrooms are fungus and there is evidence that some may have health

benefits.

 

Toni

 

On 1/10/07, HeiressArts <HeiressArts wrote:

>

> I have often wondered if I were to take some green bread mold, and

> ingest

> it, if it would be the same thing as taking penicillin?

>

> I have spent a king's ransom on " the pink stuff. "

> I know that $eptra is made from grapefruit mold, and I'm allergic to

> grapefruit in strong quantities. (All Cephala$porific drugs, an internest

> told me.

> My face gets a rash)

> Amoxil is what is most prescribed for me, my girls, and even my CAT!

> There is a white mold on bread, too, that I have stayed away from. Usually

>

> the bread starts to smell of vinegar. (Especially the brand " Bunny

> Bread. " )

>

> I ate a tiny piece of green mold on white bread once, to see what would

> happen. I don't mean when the whole bag of bread turns into green powder

> or

> anything. I rarely see mold on a multi-grain bread.

> Also, what about Bleu Cheese? Would that too have antibiotic properties???

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Toni, Sometimes I wish I were a scientist (joke) . And thank you. It's

just that I don't have health insurance, and every trip to the doctor " hurts. "

That's why I'm so attracted to this site. I save money and time sitting

around a doctor's office. It wastes all day long, and then I have to go to get

a prescription filled (the same one every single time.) It just seems like a

" racquet? " at times. I don't hesitate to take my girls, but for me, I don't

even have a doctor except my computer.

I make my own yogurt. I wonder if you can " culture " the pink stuff? Like

sourdough starter?

I'd better not try, though

I'll stick to my get-better foods and my herbalife and herbal remedies!

Someone suggested colloidal silver...I may look into that...

Athena

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

, HeiressArts wrote:

>Not sure I would want to try such a thing! Of coarse, the

prescriptions are expensive!

 

Just the act of drinking pure ionized alkaline water can make your

body fight off any diseases and infections. No more drugs! Drinking

tap water is not safe as the goverment puts chlorine and alows

floride to be added to kill germs and 'help' teeth. That old 8

glasses of water a day is true as ever and when you realize that

water is what carries all the good things into your body and all the

bad things out, it seems soooo simple that people overlook the idea.

Check it out at my blog www.kangenwaterreport.com

Ionized alkalized water (Kangen water) is a smaller molecule cluster

and gets to places and helps heal your body faster than many drugs

that the doctor can prescribe. Water by itself is a natural

antioxident and the bringing the body back to it's natural state

(slightly alkaline) alows the body to heal itself.

Have a Great Day!

Nancy

 

 

 

> I have often wondered if I were to take some green bread mold, and

ingest

> it, if it would be the same thing as taking penicillin?

>

> I have spent a king's ransom on " the pink stuff. "

> I know that $eptra is made from grapefruit mold, and I'm allergic

to

> grapefruit in strong quantities. (All Cephala$porific drugs, an

internest told me.

> My face gets a rash)

> Amoxil is what is most prescribed for me, my girls, and even my

CAT!

> There is a white mold on bread, too, that I have stayed away

from. Usually

> the bread starts to smell of vinegar. (Especially the

brand " Bunny Bread. " )

>

> I ate a tiny piece of green mold on white bread once, to see what

would

> happen. I don't mean when the whole bag of bread turns into green

powder or

> anything. I rarely see mold on a multi-grain bread.

> Also, what about Bleu Cheese? Would that too have antibiotic

properties???

>

> Thanks for your input

> Athena

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Where do you go to learn all these great recipes? I'm interested in how

I can make my own yogurt and things like that. Thanks in advance!!

, HeiressArts wrote:

>

> Toni, Sometimes I wish I were a scientist (joke) . And thank you. It's

> just that I don't have health insurance, and every trip to the doctor

" hurts. "

> That's why I'm so attracted to this site. I save money and time

sitting

> around a doctor's office. It wastes all day long, and then I have to

go to get

> a prescription filled (the same one every single time.) It just seems

like a

> " racquet? " at times. I don't hesitate to take my girls, but for me, I

don't

> even have a doctor except my computer.

> I make my own yogurt. I wonder if you can " culture " the pink stuff?

Like

> sourdough starter?

> I'd better not try, though

> I'll stick to my get-better foods and my herbalife and herbal

remedies!

> Someone suggested colloidal silver...I may look into that...

> Athena

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/13/2007 9:52:04 P.M. Central Standard Time,

idrmbg writes:

 

www.kangenwaterrepowww.kan

 

 

 

Thank you...I checked into it, and really also liked the Rabbit Salad (aka

Happy Food), too

 

Rabbit Salad (aka Happy Food)

1 cucumber, diced

1 green pepper, diced

1/2 yellow pepper diced (if you have it)

1/2 orange or red pepper, diced (if you have it)

1 bunch radishes, cut up any way you like

1 handful of fresh green beans, cut into bite size pieces

1 or two carrots, cut into bite size pieces

2 or 3 stalks of celery, cut into bite size pieces

1 can Garbanzo beans (chick peas). [i prefer Goya, myself]

Salt and pepper to taste

Drizzle with extra virgin olive oil

Mix well

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Toni, I have a recipe for yogurt using Dannon as a starter and boiled milk,

and also Cottage Cheese (3 ingredients, boiled milk, vinegar and salt.) I

will upload them to this site.

(I got the yogurt recipe from a Greek cookbook and the cottage cheese recipe

online.)

Also what is great is that there are not a ton of chemicals added to them.

That's the advantage to making things " from scratch " I think.

Thanks!

Athena

 

>Where do you go to learn all these great recipes? I'm interested in how

I can make my own yogurt and things like that. Thanks in advance!!