The Irritable Bowel Syndrome--- Refined Sugar Vs. Complex Carbs

[Guest guest]

--- " In Alterna- ,

Zamyrabyrd wrote:

 

" It doesn't matter to the gut where the glucose comes

from in its broken-down form,

it can come from carbohydrates, e.g., fruit,

whole grain or processed grain products

or from the carbon in protein,

which is admittedly less. "

 

 

I would like to take issue with this statement!

 

 

White sugar is a simple carbohydrate,meaning it is a

fractionated,artificial, devitalized by-product

of the original plant. "

 

Natural fructose as it exists in raw fruits and vegetables is

a natural whole-fiber food

and as such can be easily digested by the

body with no stress or depletion in mineral stores.

 

For example we all know that an apple contains natural sugar:

fructose,

and a potato contains natural starch. These are whole foods

containing

much

more than just

*isolated* carbohydrates.

 

Apples and potatoes grown in good soil contain an abundance of

vitamins,minerals, and important enzymes.

 

In their natural state they are known as *complex* carbohydrates,

meaning that they are " complete " foods.

 

 

 

White table sugar,however, has no nutrients. White bread is a

processed,

artificial starch as well. These are not foods - they do not

nourish.

 

For this reason they are known as-- " simple " carbohydrates.

 

Even when broken down into individual glucose molecules by

digestion, the glucose end-product is quite different from that

of a digested apple,

 

Thisis because apples do not simply break down into *isolated*

glucose molecules. There are other nutrients and co-factors present,

which

are essential for the body to make use of the glucose: enzymes,

minerals, vitamins.

 

The simple carbs in white sugar and white bread require enzymes,

vitamins, minerals, and

insulin from the body in order to act.

 

Unfortunately, the action is one of --irritation, removal, and

defense

instead of nutrition for our body regards sugar as a

*foreign* substance, a " drug " .

 

On the other hand when *complex* carbohydrates are

broken down, the result is a usable glucose molecule.

 

Most books, most doctors, and most nutritionists fail to make the

simple distinction between simple and complex carbohydrates.

 

Loads of information, very little understanding.

 

With sugar, ingestion is far different from digestion: just because

you ate it doesn't mean you can use it.

 

That is why counting calories and food combining and blood typing

and the Zone and other passing fads are so irrelevant:

 

its not so much a matter of what you eat; its really a matter of how

much you digest!

 

When simple (refined) sugars ferment in the

digestive tract and are not broken down,

the resulting alcohol,

acetic acid, water, and carbon dioxide

are not usable

(Dufty p 183).

 

1.sugar cannot be digested.

 

2.Sugar inactivates digestive enzymes and remains in the intestinal

tract, fermenting.

 

3,Some of this toxic mass gradually seeps into the bloodstream where

it

acidifies our bloodstream.

 

Not only does this half-digested sugar kill off our good bacteria,

Candida thrive on it!

These half-digested sugars become fermented like wine or liquor.

 

These undigested simple carbs eventually start to leak into the

bloodstream ( resulting in high tryiglycerides and the formation of

arterial plaque)

intact, into the joints (causing arthritis), muscles (causing fibro

and

CFS), organs (the liver, causing fatty liver) - any place they can

lodge.

So you see refined sugar stimulates a whole range of physiological

responses,

 

--all of which are unnecessary, all of which waste the energy of the

cells and systems,

and all of which are followed by a condition of exhaustion after the

brief rush subsides.

All of the precise nutrients our bodies had other plans for, have to

be mobilized in order to deal with

150 pounds per year of this devitalized non-food substance.

 

 

The basic problem with an *over-acid* digestive tract is that the

*good*

bacteria,the intestinal flora are destroyed. As their job is the

final

stage of digestion.

Without them, there is just a rotting and stagnation of foods.

 

 

 

Dangers of Animal Proteins-

 

Diets high in proteins and low in carbohydrates are typically devoid

of

sufficient fibre.

 

 

Very few animal proteins are completely digested,

resulting in

approximately 2 g of nitrogen in undigested proteins,

peptides and amino acids (equivalent to 12 g of protein) that enter

the

large intestine daily.

 

The bacteria in the large bowel would prefer to utilize carbohydrate

residues to meet our energy needs, but when carbohydrate levels

are low and protein levels high,

then amino acids are metabolised

resulting in the release of ammonia and phenol, both of which are

potential

carcinogens.

 

Cooked and smoked meat, in addition, also contain other

potentially harmful substances (such as polycyclic aromatic

hydrocarbons, heterocyclic amines, and N-nitroso compounds).

 

These potentially harmful substances should be eliminated from our

system as rapidly as possible, and if sufficient fibre were present

in the diet, the time this food is retained in the intestines

would be considerably reduced.

 

It is known that urinary *phenol* levels increase when subjects are

fed

high-meat diets

and has been known to decrease with an *increase* in dietary fibre.

 

Low phenol levels decrease cancer risk.

A whole-foods diet, high in fibre content has proven to be

beneficial

to achieve low levels of these toxic compounds

 

Biological Magnification-

 

In addition to the aforementioned compounds, animals are also known

to concentrate environmental pollutants such as heavy metals,

pesticides, herbicides and industrial toxins in their fatty tissue.

 

These toxins become concentrated in the tissues of organisms as they

pass through the food chain. The concentrating process is called

biological magnification and is responsible for widespread

decimation of animal life on earth.

 

Moreover, if species are harvested for human consumption from the

top of the food chain, then these

concentrated toxins are transferred to the human consumer.

 

Humans that rely largely on animal products for their sustenance,

will experience similar accumulations of toxic compounds as do the

top carnivores in nature, and a reduction, or even avoidance of

animal products can enhance the capacity to cope with disease.

 

 

 

In the case of a relatively high intake intake of fibre, the

partly fermented residual polysaccharides, derived from these

fibres, absorb water,leading to increased fecal

mass and decreased transit time,

thus reducing the time that

potentially harmful substances such as carcinogens remain in the

large bowel.,[ii]

With a high meat consumption, however, the harmful substances can

remain in the intestines for much longer periods,

This exposure has been linked to increased cancer rates.

In this regard, the relationship between colorectal cancer and meat

consumption is well established.

Scientific evidence implicates a high protein, low-fiber diet as one

cause of bowel cancer.

Besides being low in fibre, the compounds in meat most commonly

linked to the promotion of tumours are ammonia, phenols, polycyclic

aromatic hydrocarbons, heterocyclic amines, and N-nitroso compounds.

Within the gut,

the limited availability of whole plant foods in high-

meat diets will lead to an increase in ammonia concentration in the

colon

because bacteria will metabolize the protein *residues* which

enter the gut when carbohydrate levels are low.

Ammonia, in turn, increases cell proliferation and alters DNA

synthesis and has,

therefore, been implicated in colon cancer.

A high-meat diet also allows more aromatic

amino acids,

such as phenylaline and tyrosine to enter the colon.

Gut bacteria produce cresol and phenol when they metabolize these

amino acids. Both cresol and phenol have been associated with the

promotion of skin and colon cancer

and rapid elimination of

these compounds seems advisable, even if their effect on the gut

mucosa has not been fully resolved.

A diet rich in plant fibre can once again assist in clearance of

these

compounds by decreasing the food transit time.

What Is Dioxin?

It is the nastiest,most toxic man-made organic chemical;

its toxicity is second only to radioactive waste.

Since dioxin is fat-soluble,

it bioaccumulates up the food chain and it is mainly

(97.5%) found in meat and dairy products (beef, dairy products,

milk, chicken, pork, and fish in that order.

In EPA's dioxin report, they refer to dioxin as hydrophobic. This

means that dioxin avoids " vegetation " .

Rather,Dioxin will find

animals to go into,working its way to the top of the food chain..

The above has been excerpted from the book " Diet and Health " by

Professor Walter J. Veith.

JoAnn Guest

mrsjo-

DietaryTi-

http://www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/AIM.html

http://www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/Diets.html

[Guest guest]

This exchange has been interesting. I was diagnosed with IBS which

turned out to be leaky gut syndrome. I was told there really is no

cure for IBS, just go home & learn to live with it. I refused to

accept living such a miserable life. I found an excellent

chiropractor who practices natural medicine & nutrition who diagnosed

me with leaky gut syndrome. I am mostly symptom free after following

his gut healing recommendations. How many people who have IBS really

have leaky gut, a curable condition? My traditional gastro doctor

never heard of leaky gut. How was he suppose to help me?

 

I have also read FOS can feed bad bacteria. I personally avoid

supplements containing it.

 

I recently tried the Atkins diet. Before starting, I searched for

articles giving pros & cons. I have come to realize you can

find 'scientific evidence ' that will support EVERY point of view. I

feel it's impossible to know what is really fact & what facts have

been manipulated to prove the author's point of view.

 

I feel a condition like IBS or leaky gut is such a personalized one

that everyone must take actions based on their own experiences. What

works for one will not work for another. Although fruits are suppose

to be good, I could not tolerate high fructose fruits like apples &

pears. Others had no problems with these. All I could eat was sugar

& refined flour(simple carbs). I never developed candida. Others

are plagued by it.

 

I also find digestive enzymes very helpful. I also take HCL acid

with meals. I no longer suffer with extreme heartburn, gas, &

bloating after meals. The plant based enzymes digest my food faster

beginning in the stomach so food is not fermenting so long in my

digestive tract. There is a very interesting website

www.enzymestuff.com that has lots of info.

 

My suggestion for anyone is to gather suggestions & try them. If

something works, good. If it doesn't work for you, skip it & try

something else.

 

, " JoAnn Guest "

<angelprincessjo> wrote:

> --- " In Alterna- ,

> Zamyrabyrd wrote:

>

> " It doesn't matter to the gut where the glucose comes

> from in its broken-down form,

> it can come from carbohydrates, e.g., fruit,

> whole grain or processed grain products

> or from the carbon in protein,

> which is admittedly less. "

>

>

> I would like to take issue with this statement!

>

>

> White sugar is a simple carbohydrate,meaning it is a

> fractionated,artificial, devitalized by-product

> of the original plant. "

>

> Natural fructose as it exists in raw fruits and vegetables is

> a natural whole-fiber food

> and as such can be easily digested by the

> body with no stress or depletion in mineral stores.

>

> For example we all know that an apple contains natural sugar:

> fructose,

> and a potato contains natural starch. These are whole foods

> containing

> much

> more than just

> *isolated* carbohydrates.

>

> Apples and potatoes grown in good soil contain an abundance of

> vitamins,minerals, and important enzymes.

>

> In their natural state they are known as *complex* carbohydrates,

> meaning that they are " complete " foods.

>

>

>

> White table sugar,however, has no nutrients. White bread is a

> processed,

> artificial starch as well. These are not foods - they do not

> nourish.

>

> For this reason they are known as-- " simple " carbohydrates.

>

> Even when broken down into individual glucose molecules by

> digestion, the glucose end-product is quite different from that

> of a digested apple,

>

> Thisis because apples do not simply break down into *isolated*

> glucose molecules. There are other nutrients and co-factors present,

> which

> are essential for the body to make use of the glucose: enzymes,

> minerals, vitamins.

>

> The simple carbs in white sugar and white bread require enzymes,

> vitamins, minerals, and

> insulin from the body in order to act.

>

> Unfortunately, the action is one of --irritation, removal, and

> defense

> instead of nutrition for our body regards sugar as a

> *foreign* substance, a " drug " .

>

> On the other hand when *complex* carbohydrates are

> broken down, the result is a usable glucose molecule.

>

> Most books, most doctors, and most nutritionists fail to make the

> simple distinction between simple and complex carbohydrates.

>

> Loads of information, very little understanding.

>

> With sugar, ingestion is far different from digestion: just because

> you ate it doesn't mean you can use it.

>

> That is why counting calories and food combining and blood typing

> and the Zone and other passing fads are so irrelevant:

>

> its not so much a matter of what you eat; its really a matter of

how

> much you digest!

>

> When simple (refined) sugars ferment in the

> digestive tract and are not broken down,

> the resulting alcohol,

> acetic acid, water, and carbon dioxide

> are not usable

> (Dufty p 183).

>

> 1.sugar cannot be digested.

>

> 2.Sugar inactivates digestive enzymes and remains in the intestinal

> tract, fermenting.

>

> 3,Some of this toxic mass gradually seeps into the bloodstream

where

> it

> acidifies our bloodstream.

>

> Not only does this half-digested sugar kill off our good bacteria,

> Candida thrive on it!

> These half-digested sugars become fermented like wine or liquor.

>

> These undigested simple carbs eventually start to leak into the

> bloodstream ( resulting in high tryiglycerides and the formation of

> arterial plaque)

> intact, into the joints (causing arthritis), muscles (causing fibro

> and

> CFS), organs (the liver, causing fatty liver) - any place they can

> lodge.

> So you see refined sugar stimulates a whole range of physiological

> responses,

>

> --all of which are unnecessary, all of which waste the energy of the

> cells and systems,

> and all of which are followed by a condition of exhaustion after

the

> brief rush subsides.

> All of the precise nutrients our bodies had other plans for, have

to

> be mobilized in order to deal with

> 150 pounds per year of this devitalized non-food substance.

>

>

> The basic problem with an *over-acid* digestive tract is that the

> *good*

> bacteria,the intestinal flora are destroyed. As their job is the

> final

> stage of digestion.

> Without them, there is just a rotting and stagnation of foods.

>

>

>

> Dangers of Animal Proteins-

>

> Diets high in proteins and low in carbohydrates are typically

devoid

> of

> sufficient fibre.

>

>

> Very few animal proteins are completely digested,

> resulting in

> approximately 2 g of nitrogen in undigested proteins,

> peptides and amino acids (equivalent to 12 g of protein) that enter

> the

> large intestine daily.

>

> The bacteria in the large bowel would prefer to utilize carbohydrate

> residues to meet our energy needs, but when carbohydrate levels

> are low and protein levels high,

> then amino acids are metabolised

> resulting in the release of ammonia and phenol, both of which are

> potential

> carcinogens.

>

> Cooked and smoked meat, in addition, also contain other

> potentially harmful substances (such as polycyclic aromatic

> hydrocarbons, heterocyclic amines, and N-nitroso compounds).

>

> These potentially harmful substances should be eliminated from our

> system as rapidly as possible, and if sufficient fibre were present

> in the diet, the time this food is retained in the intestines

> would be considerably reduced.

>

> It is known that urinary *phenol* levels increase when subjects are

> fed

> high-meat diets

> and has been known to decrease with an *increase* in dietary fibre.

>

> Low phenol levels decrease cancer risk.

> A whole-foods diet, high in fibre content has proven to be

> beneficial

> to achieve low levels of these toxic compounds

>

> Biological Magnification-

>

> In addition to the aforementioned compounds, animals are also known

> to concentrate environmental pollutants such as heavy metals,

> pesticides, herbicides and industrial toxins in their fatty tissue.

>

> These toxins become concentrated in the tissues of organisms as they

> pass through the food chain. The concentrating process is called

> biological magnification and is responsible for widespread

> decimation of animal life on earth.

>

> Moreover, if species are harvested for human consumption from the

> top of the food chain, then these

> concentrated toxins are transferred to the human consumer.

>

> Humans that rely largely on animal products for their sustenance,

> will experience similar accumulations of toxic compounds as do the

> top carnivores in nature, and a reduction, or even avoidance of

> animal products can enhance the capacity to cope with disease.

>

>

>

> In the case of a relatively high intake intake of fibre, the

> partly fermented residual polysaccharides, derived from these

> fibres, absorb water,leading to increased fecal

> mass and decreased transit time,

> thus reducing the time that

> potentially harmful substances such as carcinogens remain in the

> large bowel.,[ii]

>

> With a high meat consumption, however, the harmful substances can

> remain in the intestines for much longer periods,

> This exposure has been linked to increased cancer rates.

>

> In this regard, the relationship between colorectal cancer and meat

> consumption is well established.

>

> Scientific evidence implicates a high protein, low-fiber diet as one

> cause of bowel cancer.

>

> Besides being low in fibre, the compounds in meat most commonly

> linked to the promotion of tumours are ammonia, phenols, polycyclic

> aromatic hydrocarbons, heterocyclic amines, and N-nitroso compounds.

> Within the gut,

> the limited availability of whole plant foods in high-

> meat diets will lead to an increase in ammonia concentration in the

> colon

> because bacteria will metabolize the protein *residues* which

> enter the gut when carbohydrate levels are low.

>

> Ammonia, in turn, increases cell proliferation and alters DNA

> synthesis and has,

> therefore, been implicated in colon cancer.

>

> A high-meat diet also allows more aromatic

> amino acids,

> such as phenylaline and tyrosine to enter the colon.

>

> Gut bacteria produce cresol and phenol when they metabolize these

> amino acids. Both cresol and phenol have been associated with the

> promotion of skin and colon cancer

> and rapid elimination of

> these compounds seems advisable, even if their effect on the gut

> mucosa has not been fully resolved.

>

> A diet rich in plant fibre can once again assist in clearance of

> these

> compounds by decreasing the food transit time.

>

> What Is Dioxin?

> It is the nastiest,most toxic man-made organic chemical;

> its toxicity is second only to radioactive waste.

>

> Since dioxin is fat-soluble,

> it bioaccumulates up the food chain and it is mainly

> (97.5%) found in meat and dairy products (beef, dairy products,

> milk, chicken, pork, and fish in that order.

>

> In EPA's dioxin report, they refer to dioxin as hydrophobic. This

> means that dioxin avoids " vegetation " .

> Rather,Dioxin will find

> animals to go into,working its way to the top of the food chain..

>

> The above has been excerpted from the book " Diet and Health " by

> Professor Walter J. Veith.

>

> JoAnn Guest

> mrsjo-

> DietaryTi-

> http://www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/AIM.html

> http://www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/Diets.html

[Guest guest]

Hi Joann,

 

While I appreciate your description simple vs. complex

carbohydrates,

I cannot enjoy the latter because my digestive system

is out of balance. After years of IBS, other problems

are creeping in, such as hyperacidity and other

nasties that have to do with my system's inability to

process food properly. There's a whole spectrum of

differences between individuals and their bodies'

abilities to produce the various enzymes needed to

digest food. These capabilities can change over

time--hopefully not for the worse but that seems to be

the pattern in getting older--and are indeed adversely

affected by stress.

 

A whole food in a healthy body can be a beautiful

thing but whole wheat anything is an unmitigated

disaster for me. For example, in sprue, tropical or

otherwise, the villi in the small intestine become

lumped together so cannot process gluten, instead

desperately push out the contents. So a good product

like whole wheat, harmless and even nourishing for a

healthy person, can be poison for an unhealthy one.

 

There is a very good article that makes a pervasive

argument for severe restriction of carbohydrates for

digestive disorders based mainly on multiplicious

enzyme deficiencies. Here is the link:

 

http://www.scdiet.org/7archives/lutz/lutz7.html

 

 

For the treatment of dysbiosis, B vitamins are

extremely important. The most favored foods are

yogurt, brewers' yeast and liver (two of which are

animal products). While I might prefer sometime in the

future to phase out meat, I really cannot do it right

now. What makes me feel the best these days is liver

and onions ground to a paste, taken in the morning.

I'm trying to stay away from bread or any wheat

products, but they are simply everywhere.

 

I really believe my running around in circles for so

long was due to my (and those around me) overlooking

the obvious.

 

Sincerely ZB

 

 

 

 

 

 

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,

Zamyrabyrd wrote:

 

" There's a whole spectrum of differences between indivduals and

their bodies' abilities to produce the various enzymes needed to

digest food " .

 

Hi there,

I would have to admit that diets high in sugar and processed foods

destroy our precious digestive enzymes.

A lack of enzymes is linked to years of improper diet.

The standard American diet is rampant with processed sugars and

carbs, all of which lead to a total lack of enzymes, with Vitamin B

and mineral deficiencies as well.

 

 

It was interesting to note in Linda's message that although her

allopathic doctor thought she had IBS, her chiro gave her a

completely different view of the situation, with a

link to Leaky Gut Syndrome.

 

I found an excerpt from www.doctorwithin.com

site which may help to explain this.

SO Interesting!

 

Beginning of quote:

 

" Very often, it is the nutritionists, dieticians, and doctors who

seem more apt to question the existence of hyperpermeability, or

Leaky Gut Syndrome.

Even though there has been years of copious research in the best

medical journals thoroughly documenting its characteristics and

nature,

Leaky Gut Syndrome is not commonly taught as part of the medical

curriculum, or the abbreviated curriculum presented to nutritionists

and dieticians.

 

Many of these people therefore conclude that since they got their

degrees without hearing about hyperpermeability or Leaky Gut

Syndrome, it must not exist!

Very curious! "

 

End of quote

 

I have never actually had IBS although I did have a severe case of

ulcers right after my initial heart attack. Diet and a wide variety

of herbs and supplements helped me correct the problem and I am

happy to say that I am ulcer free to this day.

 

Actually in retrospect I truly believe that herbal teas were one of

the most beneficial remedies that I used in the earlier days,

although at that time I had little or no knowledge of natural

remedies at all. I learned all of this later by actively searching

all of my alternatives to the problems.

 

Rumor verified that certain herbs were kind to the digestive system

and as I was ready to try most anything I tried them.

The more herbal teas I had the better I became (ginger, fennel

Chamomile, and peppermint were some of my favorites.)

I'm aware now that they were the right choices for my many

digestive complaints.

Perhaps it was due to the fact that they replacing other more

harmful drinks- I'll never know or perhaps as I heard later it was

because warm beverages are much more preferable to cold for aiding

digestion.

 

Ginger is well known for its anti-inflammatory activity, but its

considerably less known as an herbal treatment for ulcers and IBS.

Ginger contains 11 compounds that have demonstrated anti-ulcer

effects.

Eating ginger root is a pleasant tasting treatment for IBS and

ulcers. A combination of honey and ginger is particularly effective.

 

In addition to the antibacterial compounds, that are available from

ginger, honey has antibacterial action, and the two together seem to

produce synergistic effects although it is not wise to use honey if

Candida is an issue as well.

 

I heard that fruits and vegetables rich in FOS provide healing

although there may be a point at which they do not work that well

(as in IBS, IBD and more severe illness).

However they did work well for me.

 

Whenever we become overly acidic, eating raw celery restores

alkalinity in a very short time. Just a few stalks helps to restore

PH back to normal, four a day, for high blood pressure.

 

Umeboshi plums are beneficial for this as well. Rumor has it that

the more acidic you are, the more sour these plums taste. As you

continue to eat them and grow more alkaline, the sour taste will

tend to diminish.

Eden foods offer these plums in their online store. They also sell

the Ume vinegar for cooking.

 

www.edenfoods.com

 

Asparagus is also an alkaline food. It was one of my better choices

I believe and I still love it!

In my opinion plantains are a better choice than bananas,

especially for dealing with digestive complaints.

Plantains are used universally as a good digestive aid.

 

I will say that all this was quite a learning experience for me,

and most of it as you say, was just trial and error.

The good news is that I did recuperate. Some keep a food journal. I

didn't do that, I didn't have to. Whenever something didn't agree

with me, it left a lasting impression. :-)

 

Your inability to process gluten is typical. I eliminated all

refined wheat products from my diet when my digestive problems

surfaced, not really because of their gluten content but due to the

fact that I felt my heart problems stemmed from the use of

hydrogenated oils and there seemed to be no other alternatives

around.

The ones without hydrogenated oils were laden with numerous

preservatives and additives. Having heard that these additives

create free radicals in the bloodstream which lead to heart failure

and CVD, I was certainly not about to put any of them in my body. I

make my own homemade waffles with oat bran, rice bran and buckwheat

flour and occasionally homemade nut bread also.

 

Rice is a good alternative for those of us who cannot tolerate

wheat. I truly believe much of our inability to process wheat comes

from the harmful refining processes.

As for commercial breads,I use only Ezekiel sprouted grain breads

at the moment. This company offers several gluten free breads as

well.

I believe that their rice bread is a much better choice for

digestive problems. These breads are very healing and can be found

at: www.food-for-life.com

 

Another option is Buckwheat (Fagopyrum esculentum). It looks like a

grain and tastes like a grain but isn't one.

Instead, it is a relative of rhubarb, and because it is gluten free,

it is an ideal food for anyone allergic to gluten in wheat and other

true grains.

 

The body has difficulty processing minerals from foods if we're

highly acidic, and this creates other problems down the road for us.

 

I took large doses of magnesium for my heart and digestion. Very few

if any receive enough magnesium from their diet unless they eat one

hundred percent organic. It is doubtful that anyone gets enough

minerals from their diet.

 

I believe that yogurt is a very healthy food whenever it's organic

(free of growth hormones and antibiotics)

I use a moderate amount of organic yogurt each day; however I

would pass on that liver your eating! It is said that the vast

majority of toxins congregate in the liver. This is true of both

animals and humans!

I previously used a powdered liver supplement originating from

Argentina, but I discontinued that as well,When I discovered that

they were also using genetically modified corn for animal feed in

their country. I know many still eat it; however I have a problem

with it now.I cannot use it, with all the knowledge of genetic

engineering I have gained over the past several years and I used to

love liver pate' and all the other entrees. Organic chicken livers

may be a more healthy choice for you.

 

I do eat Laura's lean beef and Amish chicken so I am

not a complete vegetarian.I find that whenever I do indulge in red

meats I experience more discomfort. I'm wondering if the dioxins are

present in the organic varieties as well.

That could very well be the problem as these toxins permeate our

atmosphere. They can control what they eat however according to what

I've read, the animals are subject to the same environmental toxins

are humans.

 

I truly believe that our food supply is rapidly deteriorating and I

think that I am very discriminating in what I eat actually. As far as

Animal proteins, I eat only organic eggs, yogurt, sardines in

water, Alaskan salmon (either canned or fresh) and Amish chicken,

With very few red lean meats included in the diet.

 

As ironic as it may seem, the fiber in lentils, legumes and cooked

dried beans have proven to be the most beneficial of all to me.

 

When I started including more soups, stews and dried beans in my

diet, I immediately started to improve. This may be due to the fiber

in them or it may be the B-vitamins. I'm not really sure. However, I

will say that my energy levels are higher since I have been including

more beans in my meals. It could be the phytoestrogens, who knows.

Time will tell.

 

All the Best,

JoAnn

[Guest guest]

Linda,

 

I have just started reading ideas from the Westin Price Foundation

on nutrition. Westin Price extensively studied diets of various

cultures and wrote back in the 30's - his writings they have on the

site are fascinating reading I would recommend to any interested in

nutrition and prone to quote statistics of other cultures dietary

habits. I typically can't stand nutritionists but these are not

typical. There are some different ideas there.

 

Some things you say here suggest to me you and others may find some

on that site interesting. One of their main guys is a lipid

biochemist. The following link is on IBS - he also recommends lacto-

fermented foods which includes Frank's kefir. The only grains they

recommend eating are sprouted first. The author suggests in that

piece that whole grains may be the biggest part of the problem in

the first place with IBS. The second link takes you to the home

page. I can't remember where I read it but in there somewhere they

talk about hyperacidity.

 

http://www.westonaprice.org/askdoctor/ask_bowel.html

 

http://www.westonaprice.org/splash_2.htm

 

Mary

 

, Zamyrabyrd

<zamyrabyrd> wrote:

> Hi Joann,

>

> While I appreciate your description simple vs. complex

> carbohydrates,

> I cannot enjoy the latter because my digestive system

> is out of balance. After years of IBS, other problems

> are creeping in, such as hyperacidity and other

> nasties that have to do with my system's inability to

> process food properly. There's a whole spectrum of

> differences between individuals and their bodies'

> abilities to produce the various enzymes needed to

> digest food. These capabilities can change over

> time--hopefully not for the worse but that seems to be

> the pattern in getting older--and are indeed adversely

> affected by stress.

[Guest guest]

--- I thought this was quite relevant.... while searching through

some of my files today, I found this excerpt on Genetically modified

foods in an article taken from

Dr. Mercola's site.

 

 

" Transgenic DNA in food taken up by bacteria in human gut "

 

" There is already experimental evidence that transgenic DNA

from plants has been taken up by bacteria in the soil and in

the gut of human volunteers. "

" Antibiotic resistance marker genes can spread from transgenic food

to pathogenic bacteria, making infections very difficult to treat. "

 

This just seems to confirm my earlier belief that GM foods are

linked to many if not all of these digestive complaints!

 

All the Best,

JoAnn

 

 

 

 

In , Zamyrabyrd

<zamyrabyrd> wrote:

> Hi Joann,

> While I appreciate your description simple vs. complex

> carbohydrates,

> I cannot enjoy the latter because my digestive system

> is out of balance. After years of IBS, other problems

> are creeping in, such as hyperacidity and other nasties that have

to do with my system's inability to process food properly.

The most favored foods are yogurt, brewers' yeast and liver (two of

which are animal products). While I might prefer sometime in the

> future to phase out meat, I really cannot do it right

> now. What makes me feel the best these days is liver

> and onions ground to a paste, taken in the morning.

>

> I really believe my running around in circles for so

> long was due to my (and those around me) overlooking

> the obvious.

>

> Sincerely ZB

>