Guest guest Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Could you give us a description of Bowen therapy? Linda Linda Bumpas Light Beam Expressions Web Design Services to Help Your Light Shine Linda Diana Moore <thebowentechnique Friday, April 20, 2007 12:07:43 AM Re: Back pain I would like to suggest to you Bowen Therapy. The great thing about Bowen Therapy for Back Pain is that is strengthens the back so treatment for your back should get less and less. Its pretty well instant and a very gentle solution for Back Pain. For someone in your area you can go to the official site: http://www.bowtech. com Also check out the Sanjaneevini Healing Cards - they are free to print out and use. If you place a food product that you use on a regular basis (milk or jug of water?) you will be getting a homeopathic dose each time you drink it. http://www.bowenthe rapy.homestead. com/healingcards .html All the best Diana Moore New Zealand http://www.cafepres s.com/omsymbol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 There are a lot of good ideas in here. I think you could boil it down to.... 1) getting some immediate relief from your spasms (with the help of a chiropractor, massage therapist, acupuncturist, bowen therapist or something else) 2) change any movement patterns, posture patterns and muscle imbalances you have than may be contributing to it and possibly other conditions (a Viniyoga therapist or physical therapist should be able to help you) 3) look at any diet factors that may be contributing (I'd recommend reading the " Anti Inflammation Zone " by Barry Sears) 4) address any contributing emotional issues - EFT, meditation, the release technique and other things can help with that (EFT is pretty quick and easy and you can learn a basic routine at www. EFTEmotionalFreedomTechnique .com Good luck Pamela , Jenny Kernan <rainysnana wrote: > > Couple of things that cause back ache: > > 1.Improper fitting shoes and high heels. Heels should > never be over 1/2 " in height. Beside High heels create > terrible swayback and throws spine completely out of > alignment and cause bunions from misalignment of the > balls of the feet. > > 2.Tight jeans don't allow the proper movement of the > spine and bind it. > > 3.Improper lifting. You should bend at the knee and > lift, not bend over and pick up. > > 4.Sitting at a desk without feet being proped up 8 " or > more puts strain on the lower back. > > Just a few tips the Dr. gave me for my back. > > Jenny Kernan > > > > > --- Toni Roberts <TRobertsLMT wrote: > > > If nothing shows up on your orthpedist's x-ray, you > > might take those x-rays > > to an osteopath or a chiropractor. They look at > > them a little differently. > > The problem may lie simply in the muscles, for which > > a massage therapist of > > physical therapist may be your solution. A > > craniosacral therapist or > > structural integrator may also be able to help you. > > > > As far as keeping your back healthy, the first thing > > you might do is > > evaluate your activity level. If this happened > > during a weight lifting > > session, there may be something in your exercise > > that puts your back at > > risk. Are your weights too heavy? Are you lifting > > correctly? Are you > > elongating those muscles before and after lifting > > with stretching? Getting > > regular massage? A session or two with a weight > > trainer may help you get > > your routine corrected. Is there something > > work-related that may be harming > > your back. > > > > Also, look to your nutrition. Are you getting > > enough protein and other > > nutritional factors to rebuild your muscles after > > you lift? Enough calcium > > for your bones? Look to your posture. Americans are > > notorious slouchers, > > which over time wears out a perfectly good back. > > T'ai Chi has been very > > helpful to me for my posture. > > > > Are there weight lifting organizations in your area > > that may give you some > > training and wellness tips? > > > > Toni > > > > On 17 Apr 2007 09:17:42 -0700, ash_shkh > > <ash_shkh wrote: > > > > > > Hi I am new to this group and its nice to know > > that people are getting > > > the solutions to their prob from all over the > > world. > > > > > > I would like to know, How to keep my back healthy? > > I go to Gym > > > regularly and in recent past while lifting the > > weight I got a muscular > > > spasm which is still bothering me for last 20 > > days. I removed the > > > X-ray and Dr said their is no prob with the bones. > > I am 38 yrs. Pls > > > advice. Tks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > In wellness, > > Toni D. Roberts, BA, LMT > > Cumberland Muscle Therapy > > 2470 Windy Hill Road SE, Suite 227 > > Marietta, Georgia 30067-8617 > > > > (770) 984-8040 > > forums > > www.cumberlandmuscletherapy.com > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 Hi, From my experience, may I add 2 more causes. 1. Irritable colon/bowel(Ref.:-Edger Cayce) 2. Allergy to trees. (If the onset is seasonal, think of this too) MM ================ Jenny Kernan wrote: > Couple of things that cause back ache: > > 1.Improper fitting shoes and high heels. Heels should > never be over 1/2 " in height. Beside High heels create > terrible swayback and throws spine completely out of > alignment and cause bunions from misalignment of the > balls of the feet. > > 2.Tight jeans don't allow the proper movement of the > spine and bind it. > > 3.Improper lifting. You should bend at the knee and > lift, not bend over and pick up. > > 4.Sitting at a desk without feet being proped up 8 " or > more puts strain on the lower back. > > Just a few tips the Dr. gave me for my back. > > Jenny Kernan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2007 Report Share Posted April 24, 2007 Hi Ash ! For your back pain you take homeo medicine ARNICA - 10 M three drops during bed time obly for one day to be followed by Bryonia Album - 1m - three drops in every alternate 3 days during bed time for 4 weeks for a complete recovery. Should there be any query you may log me on subratadashomoeo Dr Subrata Das > " ash_shkh " <ash_shkh > > > Back pain >Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:25:38 -0000 > >Hi I am new to this group and its nice to know that people are getting >the solutions to their prob from all over the world. > >I would like to know, How to keep my back healthy? I go to Gym >regularly and in recent past while lifting the weight I got a muscular >spasm which is still bothering me for last 20 days. I removed the >X-ray and Dr said their is no prob with the bones. I am 38 yrs. Pls >advice. Tks > > > _______________ Catch all the cricketing action right here. Live score, match reports, photos et al. http://content.msn.co.in/Sports/Cricket/Default.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Hi, I am from and live in Venezuela. I am new in this group. Although my mother tongue is spanish, I'm going to try to do my best writing to you in English . I recommend you for keeping your back healthy the following: Practicing Pilates and yoga can help you a lot to strengthen your back. In the gym you can also do some exercises like hiperextensiones (in Spanish) and one we call " Good Morning " . And if you have the pain, try to find the Just Products, they are swiss natural products. You can use the Juniper Cream and the herbal Oil 31, mix them and massage your back. You feel the relief inmediatly and you don't have to take any pills. This is the web site: www.swissjustamerica.com. Noelia Subrata das <subratadashomoeo escribió: Hi Ash ! For your back pain you take homeo medicine ARNICA - 10 M three drops during bed time obly for one day to be followed by Bryonia Album - 1m - three drops in every alternate 3 days during bed time for 4 weeks for a complete recovery. Should there be any query you may log me on subratadashomoeo Dr Subrata Das > " ash_shkh " <ash_shkh > > > Back pain >Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:25:38 -0000 > >Hi I am new to this group and its nice to know that people are getting >the solutions to their prob from all over the world. > >I would like to know, How to keep my back healthy? I go to Gym >regularly and in recent past while lifting the weight I got a muscular >spasm which is still bothering me for last 20 days. I removed the >X-ray and Dr said their is no prob with the bones. I am 38 yrs. Pls >advice. Tks > > > ________ Catch all the cricketing action right here. Live score, match reports, photos et al. http://content.msn.co.in/Sports/Cricket/Default.aspx Correo Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! Regístrate ya - http://correo.espanol./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Good Morning, D, Thank you for your post. Here is some information from our archive you may want to forward to your friend. These are exercises and herbal remedies that may help: Exercise is very important on so many levels. Proper alignment of the head over the shoulders over the hips over the knees over the feet, are imperative in maintaining a pain-free body. Firm abdominal muscles help to keep the back straight and strong. Bad posture habits can lock your muscles into positions you are not even aware your body is taking which can put unwanted strain on the lower back. Exercise conditioning and stretching can improve certain pains with stretching such as painful, stiff muscles and joints by increasing blood flow to these areas. Weight baring exercises are beneficial for improving strength and bone density. Restoring movement and normal function to an injured area is critical. Learn to stretch to improve your flexibility. Exercise increases the output of endorphins, which are hormones your body produces to fight pain. Serotonin is a hormone that assists the flexibility of our blood vessels. Exercise increases the brain's supply of serotonin. This is important because when blood vessels are flexible, they are less likely to cause pain or irritation. Serotonin also improves mood, helps regulate sleep cycles and fights the pain response in the brain. It fights pain by blocking the brain's perception of pain. Estrogen, the sex hormone that can interfere with serotonin, is stabilize with exercise. Exercise should include cardiovascular aerobic activity 3- 4 times weekly. Weight baring exercise for 30 minutes to strengthen and maintain bone and muscle mass. Exercise that promotes endurance (aerobic exercise such as brisk walking, bicycling, and jogging) or muscle strength (resistance training with free weights or weight machines) helps prevent coronary artery disease. People who are out of shape or who have not exercised in a long time should consult their doctor before they start an exercise program. Properly stretch and warm up before placing any physical demands on your body and pay attention to what you body is telling you. Stop exercising before you feel pain or discomfort. Your doctor can provide a safe and effective exercise plan based on your needs. Be careful not to over exercise! Weekend warriors also have a tendency to " push " to hard to makeup for the time they have not exercised during the week. The two MOST BENEFICIAL exercises you can do to strengthen your back and relieve pain are the BACK STRENGTHENER and ABDOMINAL WORK. Exercise: The Back Strengthener Do this exercise up to 4 times a day. Lay on the floor, stomach down. Slowly lengthen out the spine as you raise one arm and the opposite leg. Exhale as you raise up into an arch. Hold this as your take two deep breaths. Slowly release back to the floor. Inhale, as your raise up the other arm and opposite leg, exhale. Hold this arch agian for two deep breaths. Lower down. Inhale. Then raise both arms, leaving both feet on the floor. Exhale. Hold the arch as you take two deep breaths. Slowly lower down. Inhale. Raise both feet off the ground, leaving both arms on the floor. Exhale. Hold the arch for two deep breaths. Slowly lower down. Inhale. Lastly, raise both arms and both legs off the floor. Exhale. Hold this full arch for two deep breaths. Slowly lower down. Inhale. Repeat entire sequence one more time. This exercise should flow easily with the breath. (Always feel the energy pulling out in both directions from the top of the head and hands and out the bottom of the feet.) Try to arch up further each time. This amazing exercise will relieve back pain! Exercise: Abdominal Work Ab work can be done on a daily basis. By strengthening the abdominal wall you are helping to support the lower back. 300, 400, 500 situps are not only a waste of time but allows for that many more attempts to injure yourself. It is the quality not the quantity of sit ups that makes all the difference. SLOW and controlled is the most powerful approach. Stretching a sore back will actually enhance the healing process. One good stretch for lower back pain is to gently bring your knees up to your chest. Once there, put a little pressure on your knees. Stretch, then relax. Repeat. Stretching will help the muscle calm down sooner than just waiting for it to calm down on its own. Exercise: Sciatic Pain Sciatic pain is generally the result of pressure on the sciatic nerve. When an intervertebral disc presses on the nerve root as it leaves the spine it causes pain and often numbness along the route of the nerve which travels down the buttock, down the thigh and sometimes down into the lower leg. This can result in a feeling of weakness as well. This is sometimes caused by a disc prolapsed or " slipped disc " . Since sciatic pain can be the result of a disc prolapsed, it is the prolapse that we need to understand. The prolapse is most often the result of a harmful habit or pattern of bending and putting stress on the spine. A herniated disc in the back, spinal stenosis and piriformis syndrome are also medical disorders that can cause sciatica. Stretching a sore back will actually enhance the healing process. One good stretch for lower back pain is to gently bring your knees up to your chest. Once there, put a little pressure on your knees. Stretch, then relax. Repeat. Stretching will help the muscle calm down sooner than just waiting for it to calm down on its own. A variation on this exercise is to lay on your back and gently bring one knee up to the chest. Keep the opposite leg elongated along the floor. Keep the energy of that foot moving out through the foot. Squeeze and hold the knee to the chest. You can make small circles with the knee. Pull your abs in and slowly lower the knee. Switch sides. Stabilizing exercises are also best for strengthening the back. The most important aspect is sensing and controlling motion in the spine. Once learned, the body can eventually take over and do this without the level of concentration it takes early on. Exercise 1. In a standing position, cross right ankle over left knee. Now slowly bend your standing leg. Sit back in the position so you feel a stretch in the buttocks. To increase this stretch, use one hand and gently evert your foot by simple pulling the toes toward you. Keep the foot on the knee. Make sure you sit back into the buttocks in this sitting position. Switch legs. Exercise 2. Laying on the floor with knees bent, arms at sides, tighten abdomen and slowly raise alternate legs 3-4 inches from the floor. With the arms, lower the opposite arm over the head. Exercise 3. Laying on the floor with knees bent, feet on the floor, bridge upward, slowly raising the buttocks from the floor. These should all be performed with a rigid trunk. The pelvic tilt will be used to find the most comfortable position for the low back. Exercise 4. This same pelvic position is maintained while performing stabilizing exercises from the prone (on the stomach) position: With elbows bent and hands under the shoulders, raise one leg 2 to 3 inches from the floor. With elbows straight and arms stretched about the head, raise an arm and the opposite leg 2 to 3 inches off the floor. Exercise variation can be done on hands and knees, raising the arms and legs only as high as can be controlled, maintaining a stable trunk and avoiding any twisting or sagging. Raise one leg behind with the knee slightly bent and no arch in the back or neck. Raise one leg with the opposite arm with the knee slightly bent and no arch in the back or neck. Exercise: Piriformis Syndrome Lay on your back and gently bring one knee up to the chest. Keep the opposite leg elongated along the floor. Keep the energy of that foot moving out through the foot. Squeeze and hold the knee to the chest. You can make small circles with the knee. Pull your abs in and slowly lower the knee. Now gently stretch the knee so that it crosses your midline and hold the knee there for 15-30 seconds. Switch sides. Herbal Remedies The medicinal benefits of herbs have been recorded for centuries. Herbs were extensively used to cure practically every known illness and has been documented by Egyptian, Roman, Native American, Persians and Hebrews alike. Many herbs contain powerful ingredients that, if used correctly, can help heal the body. By using herbs in their complete form, the body's healing process utilizes a balance of the ingredients provided by nature. Herbs and herbal formulas can be taken in a variety of ways. *You may steep herbs as teas in order to release their healing properties. * Herbal supplements in pills and capsules are another form. These are herbs ground into powder. Herbal formulas tend to be created for a single problem or nest of related problems and their specific pattern of disharmony. * Tinctures. Herbal remedies are also prescribed in tincture form and are the previously fresh herb in well preserved, highly concentrated form. This liquid, as well as, concentrated forms of extracted herbs are preserved in their freshest form. *Steam distillation or cold pressing results in herbs as essential oils. * Plasters are ingredients such as oils, herbs and other pain relieving herbs combined into an easy to use stick on strip or patch. * Poultice are macerated or chopped herbs that are placed directly on the skin and a hot, moist bandage is applied. * Infusions are used when you are working with the most delicate part of the herb-the leaves flowers, fruits and seeds. * Decoction is used to extract the tougher part of the herb-bark, berries and roots. It is also important to note that since herbs contain active ingredients, be aware that some elements may interact negatively with prescribed medications! Therefore, your healthcare professional must be notified if you have any questions about safety. As a general rule: most of the bitter tasting herbs are medicinal herbs and the pleasant tasting herbs are less toxic and can be used more often. Also, some herbs in any form, should not be taken for more than seven days at a time. Others herbs are more beneficial with time. The fresh leaves, bark, and roots of herbs can be used in their natural form or can be found in dried form and used in capsules, tablets, tinctures, essential oils, powders, creams, lotions, and salves. Herbal medicine is a wonderful solution for pain and trauma injuries. Complications can arise when taking herbal medicine and allopathic drugs internally, which your doctor has prescribed. Great caution should be used especially if you are on blood thinners, diuretics or heart related medication. Consult your doctor with any questions you may have, before taking additional herbs or supplements, internally. Arnica Suave is a natural pain reliever. Take homeopathic arnica, internally 3-4 times daily. Massage arnica gel, cream or ointment externally on painful areas. Boswellia has unique anti-inflammatory action, much like the conventional non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) used by many for inflammatory conditions. Unlike NSAIDs, however, long-term use of boswellia does not lead to irritation or ulceration of the stomach. Bromelain is a plant-enzyme. Bromelain is not actually a single substance, but a group of protein-digesting enzymes found in pineapple juice and in the stem of pineapple plants. Local swelling is the releasing of histamines in a localized area causes the vasodilation and increased permeability of blood vessels. Bromelain has an anti-inflammatory effect and is a very effective treatment for Rheumatoid Arthritis. It is recommend taking 200 to 400 milligrams three times a day on an empty stomach at least ninety minutes before or three hours after eating. Discontinue use if you develop any itching or rash. Cayenne Pepper (Capsaicin) A cream containing small amounts of Capsaicin can help relieve pain when rubbed onto muscle pain and arthritic joints, according to the results of a double blind study. It does this by depleting the nerves of a pain-mediating neurotransmitter known as substance P. Although application of capsaicin cream may initially cause a burning feeling, the burning will lessen with each application and soon disappear for most people. A cream containing 0.025–0.075% of capsaicin can be applied to the affected joints three to five times a day. Devils Claw: An analgesic and anti-inflammatory. Dosage: one to two grams, three times daily. Ginger: An anti-inflammatory. Ginger has been used in Ayurvedic and Chinese medicine as an anti-inflammatory. Taking 6–50 grams of fresh or powdered ginger per day indicated that ginger might be helpful. Suggested Dosage: 0.5 to 1 mg of powdered ginger daily Ginger Tea: Add one grated teaspoon of fresh ginger to a cup of hot water. Take two times daily. Glucosamine sulfate (GS), a nutrient derived from sea shells, contains a building block needed for the repair of joint cartilage. GS has significantly reduced symptoms of osteoarthritis. All published clinical investigations on the effects of GS in people with osteoarthritis report statistically significant improvement. Most research trials use 500 mg GS taken three times per day. Benefits from GS generally become evident after three to eight weeks of treatment. Avoid if you have any allergic reactions to shell fish. Glucosamine stimulates the production of the specific elements of cartilage and protects them. It helps your body repair worn cartilage, reduce pain and improve function. Chondroitin attracts fluids into proteoglycans, the molecules dispersed through out the cartilage that give the tissue its shock-absorber quality, and protects the cartilage against breakdown. These are substances the body already produces for itself in small amounts. Glucosamine is found in almost all tissue; it has a role in the repair and maintenance of joint cartilage. Chondroitin sulfate is a major component of cartilage and is thought to inhibit the enzymes that contribute to the breakdown of cartilage. S-adenosyl methionine (SAMe) possesses anti-inflammatory, pain- relieving, and tissue-healing properties that may help protect the health of joints.SAM-e is derived from methionine, an essential amino acid; it may promote cartilage formation and repair. Glucosamine and chondroitin sulfate are usually sold together. In clinical studies, the supplements had to be taken for several weeks before providing any pain relief. Don't forget the truly natural and proven methods for battling osteoarthritis, lose excess weight and exercise. Licorice root: An anti-inflammatory. Long-term use can elevate blood pressure and increase potassium loss. Dosage: one-eighth to one- quarter teaspoon of a 5: 1 solid extract up to three times daily. Turmeric: An effective anti-inflammatory. Dosage: 400 mg three times daily; take on an empty stomach and combine with 1,000 mg of bromelain White Willow Bark: Anti-inflammatory and pain-relieving effects. White Willow bark has anti-inflammatory and pain-relieving effects. Extracts providing 60–120 mg salicin per day are approved for people with rheumatoid arthritis. Although the analgesic actions of willow are typically slow-acting, they last longer than aspirin. Andrew Pacholyk, MS, L.Ac Peacefulmind.com Therapies for healing mind, body, spirit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 I concur with the Pete Egoscue recommendation. He believes the body is meant to be kinetic, moving, and doesn't get enough of it when we sit at our working desks all day long. Interesting man. Toni On 5/8/07, Renee <gaiacita wrote: > > Tell your friend to get the paperback book Pain Free by Pete Egoscue. If > he > follows the simple stretches his pain will stop and never bother him > again. > When they first start doing the stretches (the book tells you exactly > which > ones to do) they'll have to set aside 40 minutes a day. After the pain is > gone for 24 hours they can cut back to just 10 or 15 minutes a day to keep > the pain away. I have had some people tell me that they " don't have 40 > minutes a day " . Well, then I told them to just continue having the pain. > It will just depend on how badly your friend wants to be out of pain. > These > stretches are simple to do and you don't need to buy anything. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Tell your friend to get the paperback book Pain Free by Pete Egoscue. If he follows the simple stretches his pain will stop and never bother him again. When they first start doing the stretches (the book tells you exactly which ones to do) they'll have to set aside 40 minutes a day. After the pain is gone for 24 hours they can cut back to just 10 or 15 minutes a day to keep the pain away. I have had some people tell me that they " don't have 40 minutes a day " . Well, then I told them to just continue having the pain. It will just depend on how badly your friend wants to be out of pain. These stretches are simple to do and you don't need to buy anything. Samala, Renee ---- A friend of mine is experiencing back pain and is tired of popping Tylenol for it...doesn't have money to see a chiropractor and wanted to Know if there was an alternative herb-like remedy to alleviate some of The pain. If anyone knows anything that might work, if you can drop me A line. Thanks to everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Hello, I am Dr.T.Sreekanth, u can tell ur friend to go for kati vasthi which is comanly done to people with back pain in ayurveda. In modern there is only symptomatic treatment otherwise u are supposed to go for laminectomy. Take care. , " Renee " <gaiacita wrote: > > Tell your friend to get the paperback book Pain Free by Pete Egoscue. If he > follows the simple stretches his pain will stop and never bother him again. > When they first start doing the stretches (the book tells you exactly which > ones to do) they'll have to set aside 40 minutes a day. After the pain is > gone for 24 hours they can cut back to just 10 or 15 minutes a day to keep > the pain away. I have had some people tell me that they " don't have 40 > minutes a day " . Well, then I told them to just continue having the pain. > It will just depend on how badly your friend wants to be out of pain. These > stretches are simple to do and you don't need to buy anything. > > Samala, > Renee > > ---- > > > A friend of mine is experiencing back pain and is tired of popping > Tylenol for it...doesn't have money to see a chiropractor and wanted to > Know if there was an alternative herb-like remedy to alleviate some of > The pain. If anyone knows anything that might work, if you can drop me > A line. Thanks to everyone! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Renee-- Thank you so much and I must definitely will! Renee <gaiacita wrote: Tell your friend to get the paperback book Pain Free by Pete Egoscue. If he follows the simple stretches his pain will stop and never bother him again. When they first start doing the stretches (the book tells you exactly which ones to do) they'll have to set aside 40 minutes a day. After the pain is gone for 24 hours they can cut back to just 10 or 15 minutes a day to keep the pain away. I have had some people tell me that they " don't have 40 minutes a day " . Well, then I told them to just continue having the pain. It will just depend on how badly your friend wants to be out of pain. These stretches are simple to do and you don't need to buy anything. Samala, Renee ---- A friend of mine is experiencing back pain and is tired of popping Tylenol for it...doesn't have money to see a chiropractor and wanted to Know if there was an alternative herb-like remedy to alleviate some of The pain. If anyone knows anything that might work, if you can drop me A line. Thanks to everyone! No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Mail for Mobile. Get started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 , " solema97 " <solema97 wrote: > > Hi There! > > A friend of mine is experiencing back pain and is tired of popping > tylenol for it...doesnt have money to see a chiropractor and wanted to > know if there was an alternative herb-like remedy to alleviate some of > the pain. If anyone knows anything that might work, if you can drop me > a line. Thanks to everyone! > > ~D > Hi 'D', Don't treat the symptom treat the cause. Your friend has a body imbalance which needs correcting. If your friend can't afford treatment, I have an exercise sheet that will do the same job over a period of time. Send me an email for a complimentary copy. Anybody. Regards, Don Moody nasalb0ne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 ---a lot youcould try such as a castor oil pack placed on the area infra red heat Castor oil is also used on any arthritic, rheumatic, or muscular and joint pain as unction. Basically an infra red lamp is placed 12-18 inches from the part to be massaged. Apply the castor oil on the painful area and let the lamp warm it and this will help the oil to penetrate the skin, this done for about 5-10 mins. Then keep rubbing with the fingers and hand until the oil is worked in. Keep putting more oil on and massaging continued for 10-60 mins. Massage was also very helpful, to be given usually after another treatment such as an Epsom salt bath. If the reaction to colonics and enemas was to severe, emphasis was placed on gentler methods such as Epsom salt baths, steam baths and a diet rich in laxative foods. Epsom salt baths were in a range of five pounds of Epsom salts to about 20 galls of water for a modern tub and 8-10 pounds for an old tub. Be in the tub for about 10-12 mins to start with and then work up to 20 mins. Further stimulation to the body could be given with using massage or rubbing the extremities of the body while in the bath. Temp of bath was to be as hot as possible up to the point of pain. Epsom salt packs can be also applied when needed over areas of extreme pain. The salts apparently act by drawing out toxins. you can also immerse any local part of the body in a smaller basin too with people who have arthritic hands or other parts of the body. also you can form a pack ,by dissolving say 1 pound of salts in a small basin or pot and as much water necessary to saturate a towel. apply as hot as possible over the area indicated and keep repeating the applications for 2-3 hrs .where possible use an infra red lamp or other means to keep the pack hot. Where there is crippling of the joints of the hands, pain of arthritis or inflammation of the tendons considerable relief can be found by using an Epsom salt bath and massage. Use a large quantity of the salts about 1 pound in the water though, not just a spoon full. Soak the affected area for about 5 mins and then massage the affected area under water, rotate the joints and soak again for another 5-10 mins. In , " solema97 " <solema97 wrote: > > Hi There! > > A friend of mine is experiencing back pain and is tired of popping > tylenol for it...doesnt have money to see a chiropractor and wanted to > know if there was an alternative herb-like remedy to alleviate some of > the pain. If anyone knows anything that might work, if you can drop me > a line. Thanks to everyone! > > ~D > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 Stretch anterior muscles especially psoas. pjb12345uk <pho wrote: ---a lot youcould try such as a castor oil pack placed on the area infra red heat Castor oil is also used on any arthritic, rheumatic, or muscular and joint pain as unction. Basically an infra red lamp is placed 12-18 inches from the part to be massaged. Apply the castor oil on the painful area and let the lamp warm it and this will help the oil to penetrate the skin, this done for about 5-10 mins. Then keep rubbing with the fingers and hand until the oil is worked in. Keep putting more oil on and massaging continued for 10-60 mins. Massage was also very helpful, to be given usually after another treatment such as an Epsom salt bath. If the reaction to colonics and enemas was to severe, emphasis was placed on gentler methods such as Epsom salt baths, steam baths and a diet rich in laxative foods. Epsom salt baths were in a range of five pounds of Epsom salts to about 20 galls of water for a modern tub and 8-10 pounds for an old tub. Be in the tub for about 10-12 mins to start with and then work up to 20 mins. Further stimulation to the body could be given with using massage or rubbing the extremities of the body while in the bath. Temp of bath was to be as hot as possible up to the point of pain. Epsom salt packs can be also applied when needed over areas of extreme pain. The salts apparently act by drawing out toxins. you can also immerse any local part of the body in a smaller basin too with people who have arthritic hands or other parts of the body. also you can form a pack ,by dissolving say 1 pound of salts in a small basin or pot and as much water necessary to saturate a towel. apply as hot as possible over the area indicated and keep repeating the applications for 2-3 hrs .where possible use an infra red lamp or other means to keep the pack hot. Where there is crippling of the joints of the hands, pain of arthritis or inflammation of the tendons considerable relief can be found by using an Epsom salt bath and massage. Use a large quantity of the salts about 1 pound in the water though, not just a spoon full. Soak the affected area for about 5 mins and then massage the affected area under water, rotate the joints and soak again for another 5-10 mins. In , " solema97 " <solema97 wrote: > > Hi There! > > A friend of mine is experiencing back pain and is tired of popping > tylenol for it...doesnt have money to see a chiropractor and wanted to > know if there was an alternative herb-like remedy to alleviate some of > the pain. If anyone knows anything that might work, if you can drop me > a line. Thanks to everyone! > > ~D > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 At 11:12 PM 7/20/2007, you wrote: >How about if I start something for everyone to comment on. I am a massage >therapist. I like this group because I learn about the oils and herbs that >I can use. For example, I have someone with low back pain which oils >would be the best to use? Which carriers are best to put that oil in? Can >you make a soap or lotion that the client can put on that will help? We'll start with the carrier...my first choice would be St. John's Wort infused oil... it's a powerful anti-inflammatory and pain reliever all by itself, before you add any essential oils.... (and I don't think a wash off product, like a soap, would be much good!... a lotion, perhaps...using one of the hydrosols might help.) for essential oils...we've had good luck with a blend of helichrysum italicuum, from Corsica...the most powerful anti-inflammatory I know of, black pepper, for stimulating circulation, and lavandin, for relaxation and pain relief. You might also look at one of the anti-spasmodic oils if your find that there are muscle spasms involved in triggering the pain... but if the pain is from pressure on or inflammation of the nerves, the above is the most effective blend I know of. Over 10 years online supplying Aromatherapy and Healthcare Professionals Essential Oils, Hydrosols, Accessories, Hard to find Books and Videos <http://www.naturesgift.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Exactly where in your back? Your lower back, below your waste - above it? Or your upper back? Dede , " dhananjay " <dkss13 wrote: > > I have a back pain for 3 months. What should I do? > Pls reply me. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Have you seen a Chiropractor? If not I suggest you do so. I see my Chiropractor on a regular basis and the job he has done in keeping me well is amazing! Lyndall ---- dhananjay 26/07/2007 5:16:58 AM Back pain I have a back pain for 3 months. What should I do? Pls reply me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 I have been a nurse for 35 years- if you go to most doctors- they would give you pain pills and maybe some Physical therapy. Eventually- your back would get better. I have also been a massage therapist for 10 years and I have seen people almost not be able to walk in the door- leaving with smiles on their face. It works. See if you can find someone that knows something about tuning forks- it really makes a difference when dealing with muscles that are " out of whack " . I wish you all the best in finding a practioner- there are 1,000's of us now nationwide so just google to find someone. Sending you healing of light, Pat , " Tazidevil " <devil.tas wrote: > > > Have you seen a Chiropractor? If not I suggest you do so. I see my > Chiropractor on a regular basis and the job he has done in keeping me well > is amazing! > > Lyndall > > > ---- > > dhananjay > 26/07/2007 5:16:58 AM > > Back pain > > I have a back pain for 3 months. What should I do? > Pls reply me. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Dhananjay, I had back pain for about 6-7 years but I am completely cured now. I tried many things, chi kung, acupressure, chinese herbal medicines, chiropractor, tai chi. They all gave me some relief but not complete cure. Complete cure came from Yoga stretching exercises. Use Sw. Ram Dev's CDs. Start with Pranayam, in the beginning start with a few repetitions and gradually increase. After 1-2 months start doing Yoga Asasans. Do not strain yourself in the beginning, gradually build up. You will see tremendous improvement in your help and complete relief from backpain. If it is very bad right now, take some med. Afterwards start with Pranayam then Asanas. Best of luck and speedy recovery. T. Atul dhananjay <dkss13 wrote: I have a back pain for 3 months. What should I do? Pls reply me. Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 For muscle spasms, I would add magnesium to my diet and if you aren't taking calcium already, balance it w/calcium and D Marsha and the Yorkies http://www.miracleyorkies.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 dear pammi, hw s life?, i have come to know tht ur suffering from back pain.ok? no worries ok you should chooose some back muscles excercises which can make them strong,actually back muscles get weeeek u wlll start feeling back pain, if u need to cexcerises i can show you, bt inform me, ok tk cr, and take exversies daily pls Regards, yadvinder --- pammi <dilberxxx wrote: > I had muscle spasm in july .After that I am having > back pain > consistently > pl help > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 Hi pammi,I am Elaine, and I suffered from back pain so much, they operated on me---bad thing to do!!!! I had 4 more after that; I still hurt, use a cane for small distances, wheelchair after that!!! I am so sad that I let them operate, but how was I to do???I hope anybody reading this will never have back surgery. Do you have a bike rider? That is good exercise. God Bless you, Elaine : gemni35romantic: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 08:47:20 -0700Re: back pain dear pammi,hw s life?, i have come to know tht ursuffering from back pain.ok? no worriesokyou should chooose some back muscles excercises whichcan make them strong,actually back muscles get weeeeku wlll start feeling back pain, if u need tocexcerises i can show you, bt inform me, oktk cr, and take exversies daily plsRegards,yadvinder --- pammi <dilberxxx wrote:> I had muscle spasm in july .After that I am having> back pain > consistently> pl help> > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around _______________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook – together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971033 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 , " curtis_lloyd2002 " <clloyd58 wrote: > > anyone has a natural remedy for lower back pain? > Hi, I think ultimately you should consider looking into the origin of your lower back pain. I suffer from chronic lower back issues because I used to ride a motorcylce and didn't have the core strength to support driving 50 miles on Los Angeles roads everyday. I eventually stretched some ligaments in my sacroilliac joint and now have problems whenever I get out of shape. My treatment involves staying fit in my core so that the ligaments don't have to do the job of supporting the joint on their own. Hurray for pilates. I use chiropractic care to release the joint when I have a flare up, and massage therapy to take the muscles out of spasm (the muscles form a natural splint around the joint so I don't cause further injury). My point here being that your lower back pain probably has a cause and finding that cause in key to resolving your pain. Recently I began experimenting with a posture correction regimen called " The Egoscue Method " . The author's premise is that our body is like a scaffolding that one builds when painting one's very tall house. If the joints of the scaffolding are out of alignment, then the scaffolding will be week and may fall. The joints of our body are similar--designed to be in horizontal and vertical alignment, if we get out of alignment our joints will be placed under stress they weren't designed for, and our muscles will try to do jobs they weren't built for. And this will lead to pain. Personal testimony to the effectiveness of this program: the day I started these exercises to address chronic foot pain and inpending arthritis in my foot, the pain went away and has not returned (I do the exercises from time to time to make sure I'm still in alignment). This despite doing 3-4 5K walks every week. I also used these exercises to address my lower back issue, but was doing my regular course of treatment (pilates, chiropractic, massage therapy) so I think the results are confounded. Finally, I used these exercises to address the fact that I work at a computer, have somewhat slumped shoulders and carry my head in front of me a little. Within days I was standing upright, my shoulders were lose and had no pain, and my head was on top of my neck instead of in front of it. Why is this important? The author of the book gives an example: grab a kitchen pot and hold it straight above your head. Easy, no? Now bring your arm a even just a few degrees out in front of you--suddenly that pot got a whole lot heavier. The same with your head and your body--head in front is a weight that your back (lower back!) needs to carry. Any way, I encourage you to look into Pete Egoscue's book " Pain Free " or " Pain Free for Women " and investigate what about your life may lead to lower back pain. I'm happy to discuss; it's been 10 years with my injury and I expect it to be a lifetime...but NOT a lifetime of pain. Best wishes, Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 I had lower back pain from the chair I sat in at work. It hit at just the wrong spot. Another thing I noticed is that a belt would cause lower back pain. My husband started wearing suspenders and his back pain quit thea --------- Forwarded message ---------- " rileyinhp " <elarrocero Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:15:54 -0000 Re: back pain Message-ID: <fgqeha+rvc4 > , " curtis_lloyd2002 " <clloyd58 wrote: > > anyone has a natural remedy for lower back pain? > Hi, I think ultimately you should consider looking into the origin of your lower back pain. I suffer from chronic lower back issues because I used to ride a motorcylce and didn't have the core strength to support driving 50 miles on Los Angeles roads everyday. I eventually stretched some ligaments in my sacroilliac joint and now have problems whenever I get out of shape. My treatment involves staying fit in my core so that the ligaments don't have to do the job of supporting the joint on their own. Hurray for pilates. I use chiropractic care to release the joint when I have a flare up, and massage therapy to take the muscles out of spasm (the muscles form a natural splint around the joint so I don't cause further injury). My point here being that your lower back pain probably has a cause and finding that cause in key to resolving your pain. Recently I began experimenting with a posture correction regimen called " The Egoscue Method " . The author's premise is that our body is like a scaffolding that one builds when painting one's very tall house. If the joints of the scaffolding are out of alignment, then the scaffolding will be week and may fall. The joints of our body are similar--designed to be in horizontal and vertical alignment, if we get out of alignment our joints will be placed under stress they weren't designed for, and our muscles will try to do jobs they weren't built for. And this will lead to pain. Personal testimony to the effectiveness of this program: the day I started these exercises to address chronic foot pain and inpending arthritis in my foot, the pain went away and has not returned (I do the exercises from time to time to make sure I'm still in alignment). This despite doing 3-4 5K walks every week. I also used these exercises to address my lower back issue, but was doing my regular course of treatment (pilates, chiropractic, massage therapy) so I think the results are confounded. Finally, I used these exercises to address the fact that I work at a computer, have somewhat slumped shoulders and carry my head in front of me a little. Within days I was standing upright, my shoulders were lose and had no pain, and my head was on top of my neck instead of in front of it. Why is this important? The author of the book gives an example: grab a kitchen pot and hold it straight above your head. Easy, no? Now bring your arm a even just a few degrees out in front of you--suddenly that pot got a whole lot heavier. The same with your head and your body--head in front is a weight that your back (lower back!) needs to carry. Any way, I encourage you to look into Pete Egoscue's book " Pain Free " or " Pain Free for Women " and investigate what about your life may lead to lower back pain. I'm happy to discuss; it's been 10 years with my injury and I expect it to be a lifetime...but NOT a lifetime of pain. Best wishes, Tom ********************************************* Peacefulmind.com Sponsors Alternative Answers- HEALING NATURALLY- Learn preventative and curative measure to take for many ailments at: http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments.htm __________ -To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address in an email to them: http://health./subs_invite _________ To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: http://health./links ___________ Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner _______ Shortcut URL to this page: http://health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 Hey to all sufferer from lower back pain (small of the back), You can take homoeo medicine Bryonia Alb - 1M 3 to 4 drops during bed time in every Monday and Thursday till it is off. While the medicine is on don't take any sour items. Dr Subrata Das : nobltn528: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 04:22:51 -0600Fw: Re: back pain I had lower back pain from the chair I sat in at work. It hitat just the wrong spot.Another thing I noticed is that a belt would cause lowerback pain.My husband started wearing suspenders and his back painquitthea--------- Forwarded message ---------- " rileyinhp " <elarroceroTo: : Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:15:54 -0000Subject: Re: back painMessage-ID: <fgqeha+rvc4 >--- In , " curtis_lloyd2002 " <clloyd58 wrote:>> anyone has a natural remedy for lower back pain?>Hi,I think ultimately you should consider looking into the origin of yourlower back pain. I suffer from chronic lower back issues because Iused to ride a motorcylce and didn't have the core strength to supportdriving 50 miles on Los Angeles roads everyday. I eventuallystretched some ligaments in my sacroilliac joint and now have problemswhenever I get out of shape. My treatment involves staying fit in mycore so that the ligaments don't have to do the job of supporting thejoint on their own. Hurray for pilates. I use chiropractic care torelease the joint when I have a flare up, and massage therapy to takethe muscles out of spasm (the muscles form a natural splint around thejoint so I don't cause further injury). My point here being that yourlower back pain probably has a cause and finding that cause in key toresolving your pain.Recently I began experimenting with a posture correction regimencalled " The Egoscue Method " . The author's premise is that our body islike a scaffolding that one builds when painting one's very tallhouse. If the joints of the scaffolding are out of alignment, thenthe scaffolding will be week and may fall. The joints of our body aresimilar--designed to be in horizontal and vertical alignment, if weget out of alignment our joints will be placed under stress theyweren't designed for, and our muscles will try to do jobs they weren'tbuilt for. And this will lead to pain.Personal testimony to the effectiveness of this program: the day Istarted these exercises to address chronic foot pain and inpendingarthritis in my foot, the pain went away and has not returned (I dothe exercises from time to time to make sure I'm still in alignment).This despite doing 3-4 5K walks every week. I also used these exercises to address my lower back issue, but wasdoing my regular course of treatment (pilates, chiropractic, massagetherapy) so I think the results are confounded.Finally, I used these exercises to address the fact that I work at acomputer, have somewhat slumped shoulders and carry my head in frontof me a little. Within days I was standing upright, my shoulders werelose and had no pain, and my head was on top of my neck instead of infront of it. Why is this important? The author of the book gives anexample: grab a kitchen pot and hold it straight above your head. Easy, no? Now bring your arm a even just a few degrees out in frontof you--suddenly that pot got a whole lot heavier. The same with yourhead and your body--head in front is a weight that your back (lowerback!) needs to carry.Any way, I encourage you to look into Pete Egoscue's book " Pain Free " or " Pain Free for Women " and investigate what about your life may leadto lower back pain.I'm happy to discuss; it's been 10 years with my injury and I expectit to be a lifetime...but NOT a lifetime of pain.Best wishes,Tom********************************************* Peacefulmind.com Sponsors Alternative Answers-HEALING NATURALLY- Learn preventative and curative measure to take formany ailments at:http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments.htm___\ _______-To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this addressin an email to them:http://health./subs_invite _________To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: http://health./links___________________\ __________________________Post message: : -: - owner: -owner ______\ _Shortcut URL to this page:http://health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 hi menma, u well cm, i am galde to cur mail, well ur problem is nt tht much, u send me ur phone no i will telll u to cure it, i am yoga teacger from india, so send me ur conatct no pls. Regards, yadvinder pal --- Menma F <menmaf wrote: > Hi all...I am new to the group and looking for > methods to treat my now chronic back pain and leg > pain. I am in my 20s and have been diagnosed with > moderate lumbar degenerative disc disease and mild > arthritis. In the lumbar region I have several disk > herniations and a disc tear. > > So far I have been in physical therapy twice (2 > months early on and now 5, since July). I work full > time as a nurse (no lifting anymore though) and am > taking 4 medications to cope with the pain -- > Celebrex, Tramadol, Gabapentin, Desipramine. > > I see a chriopracter weekly and a neuromuscular > therapist weekly as well. I have also tried > homeopathy as provided by a naturopathic doctor, and > neurostructural integration technique. I do some > yoga and spine ball > therapy, but I need to be very careful with it as my > back is > reactive. > > I have also tried numerous supplements including > glucosamine, > white willow, proteolytic enzymes, zyflament, > grapeseed extract, > ginger, tumeric, celery seed. I have tried some > essential oils > topically, with a little relief. > > Overall I have seen some improvement but am becoming > discouraged. So I am coming to this group at the end > of my rope. If anyone has any suggestions I would > greatly appreciate hearing them. > > Thanks, > Menma > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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