Guest guest Report post Posted February 1, 2004 Hi Juliana. My name is Chrystal from Richmond BC. I'm a 1st year student of TCM. I have had psoriasis for most of my life. I've tried everything with very little success, all the miracle products, coal tar, lotions, even coconut essence. The only thing that worked was steroids but when I eventually stopped using it it ended up making the psoriasis worse. I took a TCM elective in college and I decided to try acupuncture for my psoriasis. And it worked! I was under treatment for about a month or two before I moved. Redness and scaling decreased significantly and it was prevented from further spreading. According to TCM, one of the causes of psoriasis is heat or fire in the blood. I have some information about recommended acupoints from a website as well as herbs and other treatment. I can dig it up if you want. >De: Chinese Medicine Data: 01/28/04 21:58:05 Para: Chinese Medicine Assunto: Psoriasis I am a 3rd year student at Dallas College of Oriental Medicne. I am presently researching Psoriasis for a term paper. Does anyone have a good rescource for treatment with TCM? I have found only a few and would like to involve more input. I have treated a 17 year old female in the clinic, she did get substatial improvement with acupuncture and herbal decoction (internal and external application). However teenagers being what they are she had a hard time staying on the regime and discontinued treatment when she had aproximately 80% improvement with hair returning to affected lesion sites and reduction in itching with overall improvement in underlying condition. This is a very disheartning condition from both a WM and TCM perspective. What can we do to help?? Any input is much appreciated. Thank you Juliana Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 6, 2004 Dear Crystal, So glad acupuncture helped the Psoriasis. Have you tried being tested for food allergies. I have a hunch that skin problems have a lot to do with elimination. I do food intolerance testing using Kinesiology and 9/10 people (especially women) have some sort of leaky gut syndrome due to overuse of hormone tablets, steroids, etc. Helping the gut usually clears up any skin problems, dryness, spots, itching. Unfortunately I haven't had a client with psoriasis yet to check this out on so would value your comment. Regards Christine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 6, 2004 Psoriasis is an inherited condition known to be aggravated by stress, but has nothing to do with allergy. Kinesiology is a very intuitive system of diagnosis and if you find all your patient show the same condition (leaky gut syndrome) may be it is because you are a little bit obsessed with it Psoriasis respond often well to acupuncture, but even better result can be obtained by combining acupuncture with Chinese herbal medicine or homeopathy. Psorriasis usually does not respond to nutritional changes A goo example of effective Chinese formula is Si Wu Tang + Ma Huang Tang. Low dosage other long periods seems to work better. Regards PJ On Friday, February 6, 2004, at 06:28 am, cmfadley wrote: > > Dear Crystal, > So glad acupuncture helped the Psoriasis. Have you tried being tested > for food allergies. I have a hunch that skin problems have a lot to > do with elimination. I do food intolerance testing using Kinesiology > and 9/10 people (especially women) have some sort of leaky gut > syndrome due to overuse of hormone tablets, steroids, etc. Helping > the gut usually clears up any skin problems, dryness, spots, itching. > Unfortunately I haven't had a client with psoriasis yet to check this > out on so would value your comment. > Regards > Christine > > > Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, > religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. > > To change your email settings, i.e. individually, daily digest or > none, visit the groups’ homepage: > Chinese Medicine/ click > ‘edit my membership' on the right hand side and adjust accordingly. > > To send an email to > <Chinese Medicine- > from the > email account you joined with. You will be removed automatically but > will still recieve messages for a few days. > > > <image.tiff> > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 6, 2004 Hi Christine! What do you use for leaky gut? At 01:28 AM 2/6/2004, you wrote: >Dear Crystal, >So glad acupuncture helped the Psoriasis. Have you tried being tested for >food allergies. I have a hunch that skin problems have a lot to do with >elimination. I do food intolerance testing using Kinesiology and 9/10 >people (especially women) have some sort of leaky gut syndrome due to >overuse of hormone tablets, steroids, etc. Helping the gut usually clears >up any skin problems, dryness, spots, itching. <snip> > Regards, Pete Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 6, 2004 Cristine wrote: >Dear Crystal, >So glad acupuncture helped the Psoriasis. Have you tried being tested for >food allergies. I have a hunch that skin problems have a lot to do with >elimination. I do food intolerance testing using Kinesiology and 9/10 >people (especially women) have some sort of leaky gut syndrome due to >overuse of hormone tablets, steroids, etc. Helping the gut usually clears >up any skin problems, dryness, spots, itching. Unfortunately I haven't had >a client with psoriasis yet to check this out on so would value your >comment. >Regards >Christine ____________ HI, I have a book at home of research done in russia where they clear extreme cases of excema and psoriasis by fasting and colonics. The premise being that these symptoms originate in colon disturbances. I am not sugesting that colonic irrigation is the answer, as one is still treating symptoms. I have an extremely good track record of clearing excema and psoriasis using only acupuncture, even in cases where they have previoulsy tried Chinese herbs unsuccesfully. My conclusions to date are, that as a result of stress, people physically distort parts of their large intestine creating physical damage and because of its function of absorption into the blood leads to skin complaints as a result of toxin reingestion. If the above is true, then to clear skin complaints one has to treat the underlying stress generating dysfunction in the relevant meridian that is responsible for the constriction in the large intestine. Likely culprits tend to be ST, SP, LIV, GB, LI, LU. salvador www.meridian-qi-acupuncture.com _______________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 19, 2004 Hope someone can help with this one. My sister has inherited from my Dad scaly eyebrows and scalp. It is helped to a small degree by Pinetarsol, which is a gooey pine product she uses for shampoo. When she takes EPO she gets relief from the scales in the eyebrows , but not her scalp. She says that when she has been asleep for a few hours ( it is summer here and very humid), her scalp itches like crazy, especially where she has been lying. She has changed to a feather pillow and that has helped a bit.. My thought was a hydrosol of Roman Chamomile?????? Any suggestions. Jeanine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 22, 2004 Hi Jeanine, Diet and rest are the two biggest factors in keeping psoriasis under control. That being said - Chamomile is known to be helpful for psoriasis. I have a friend who has psoriasis and uses a avocado oil with a little bit of roman chamomile in it, and he loves it. I can see the chamomile hydrosol making a nice hair rinse (especially if she has blonde in her hair), maybe even blended with yarrow and rose hydrosols. Also, Homeopathy can be very effective for controlling psoriasis. Best of luck to her. Please, do keep us posted *Smile* Chris (list mom) http://www.alittleolfactory.com David and Jeanine Moss [dhm.jac] Hope someone can help with this one. My sister has inherited from my Dad scaly eyebrows and scalp. It is helped to a small degree by Pinetarsol, which is a gooey pine product she uses for shampoo. When she takes EPO she gets relief from the scales in the eyebrows , but not her scalp. She says that when she has been asleep for a few hours ( it is summer here and very humid), her scalp itches like crazy, especially where she has been lying. She has changed to a feather pillow and that has helped a bit.. My thought was a hydrosol of Roman Chamomile?????? Any suggestions. Jeanine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 22, 2004 Hi Chris, I agree with all you've written. My great-neice has been plagued with psoriasis since birth. All the below helped with the addition of " black soap. " It is wonderful for skin problems. She finally went on a homeopathic and has not complained since. I think the soap helped also. Warmly, Bobbye , " Christine Ziegler " <chrisziggy@e...> wrote: > > Hi Jeanine, > > Diet and rest are the two biggest factors in keeping psoriasis under > control. That being said - Chamomile is known to be helpful for > psoriasis. I have a friend who has psoriasis and uses a avocado oil with > a little bit of roman chamomile in it, and he loves it. I can see the > chamomile hydrosol making a nice hair rinse (especially if she has > blonde in her hair), maybe even blended with yarrow and rose hydrosols. > > Also, Homeopathy can be very effective for controlling psoriasis. > > Best of luck to her. Please, do keep us posted > > *Smile* > Chris (list mom) > > http://www.alittleolfactory.com > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 16, 2004 Vitamin D is good for that. Check this out: http://www.wholehealthmd.com/refshelf/substances_view/1,1525,905,00.html Laura , " childofthefae " <childofthefae> wrote: > does anyone have any suggestions.........help!!!!!! what should i > do? psoriasis is spreading rapidly on my leg. started on the palms > of my hands and feet and now my hands - that goodness - are in > remission....feet are bad - - - and now a new type of psoriasis on my > left. > > im very up for suggestions. tks......lyn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 16, 2004 psoriasis I use apple cider vinegar all over my body and rinse my hair with it too. No more expensive and harmful remedies. I drink the apple cider vinegar too but I only drink the organic Braggs Apple Cider Vinegar. You might also want to add fish oil to your diet and change your eating habits. Start juicing! Jane Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 27, 2004 In a message dated 4/26/2004 8:48:20 PM US Mountain Standard Time, eliz3378 writes: psoriasis I have a friend who has psoriasis. i don't know if she is willing to do all the cleansing. where should she start though in regards to her diet? what should she eliminate? Peace and happiness, Elizabeth Elliott, Birth Doula and Childbirth Educator That is a big question! Is she at a healthy weight? age? how long has she had this? She needs to listen to Doc's tape... you can encourage her about herbs and nutrition. She really needs to do a cleanse... This with nutritional balance should handle the problem. no dairy no caffeine no sugars / artificial sweeteners no processed foods no white flour products Eats lots of organic fruits/veggies Drink plenty of pure water If eating meat natural & organic This is just a basic program Elizabeth,,,but you should know that by know girl!!! You have been here, have faith in what you know and share it with others... God Bless, Jamie in Az Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 27, 2004 In a message dated 4/27/2004 8:47:47 AM US Mountain Standard Time, eliz3378 writes: i know. that is what i told her. she said it has been acting up worse than ever this week and she said she had been eating a lot of fish (out our work, which is a restaurant). anyway, i know the fish is farmraised. i told her to cut that out for sure and see what happens to her skin. she is a little chunky; drinks too much, etc. some people just aren';t willing to make the necessary changes. it is tough work i know, but well worth it. Peace and happiness, Elizabeth Elliott, Birth Doula and Childbirth Educator Elizabeth your just a doll for trying to help her...just remember she has to want to help herself! She needs a cleanse bad and dietary changes. Don't push just keep dropping hints and being gentle and she will come around when she is ready or when she is in trouble. God Bless, Jamie in Az Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 27, 2004 i know. that is what i told her. she said it has been acting up worse than ever this week and she said she had been eating a lot of fish (out our work, which is a restaurant). anyway, i know the fish is farmraised. i told her to cut that out for sure and see what happens to her skin. she is a little chunky; drinks too much, etc. some people just aren';t willing to make the necessary changes. it is tough work i know, but well worth it. Peace and happiness, Elizabeth Elliott, Birth Doula and Childbirth Educator Is she at a healthy weight? age? how long has she had this? She needs to listen to Doc's tape... you can encourage her about herbs and nutrition. She really needs to do a cleanse... This with nutritional balance should handle the problem. no dairy no caffeine no sugars / artificial sweeteners no processed foods no white flour products Eats lots of organic fruits/veggies Drink plenty of pure water If eating meat natural & organic This is just a basic program Elizabeth,,,but you should know that by know girl!!! You have been here, have faith in what you know and share it with others... God Bless, Jamie in Az Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 13, 2004 This is a great article. I've had psoriasis and other skin problems for most of my life, and I've followed a nutritional program very similar to this for the last year or so. My skin is healthier than it's ever been, I feel great, and I've lost weight. Anyone with psoriasis should give these recommendations a try, in addition to other lifestyle changes that are advocated on this group. LO > http://www.doctoryourself.com/psoriasis.html > > Psoriasis > > PSORIASIS IS NOT A HEARTBREAK BUT IT MIGHT BE > MALNUTRITION > > The Merck Manual, the " Cliff Notes " of medical school, > says that psoriasis has an unknown cause and no real > cure. If the medical doctor's black bag is empty, > that does not mean that there's nothing else to do. > It means that it is now necessary to know Nature's > nutritional knapsack. (What a nice alliteration that > turned out to be.) > > With psoriasis, there definitely are some worthwhile > clues to track down. After all, as Sherlock Holmes > said, " if all common explanations fail to solve a > problem, then the answer must be some uncommon one. " > To many people, the therapeutic use of fish oils, > vegetable juice fasting, zinc, and vitamins do indeed > represent something completely different. Different, > but not actually all that unreasonable. > > OMEGA-3 FISH OILS > Psoriasis may be partly due to a difficulty in the way > the body handles oils, or to a lack of oils in the > diet itself. Studies have shown that consuming a > fatty acid found in fish called EPA (eicosapentanoic > acid) may provide symptom relief. EPA is an " omega-3 > fatty acid. " All that means is that the first > carbon-to-carbon double bond is located three carbons > in from the far (omega) end of each molecule. Most > vegetable oils that you eat are omega-6 fatty acids > (such as linoleic acid). Now just why would it matter > if a chemical bond is by Carbon Number Three or Carbon > Number Six? As they said in Kung Fu, " There are many > mysteries, grasshopper " and this seems to be one of > them. > > Can you stand any more of this? Let's see. The two > most common fish oil omega-3 fatty acids are EPA > (mentioned earlier) and DHA (docosahexenoic acid) > People who don't eat fish need to know that there is a > third, vegetarian omega-3. It is called LINOLENIC > ACID (NOT omega-6 linoleic acid mentioned above) This > omega-3 " fish oil " is found in linseed oil and more > importantly in soybean oil and GREEN LEAFY VEGETABLES. > > > Linolenic (omega-3) acid is slowly converted into both > DHA and EPA in the body. Ah ha! Could this be the > problem that psoriasis patients have, namely, that > they are slow to make this conversion? If so, the > psoriasis patient probably needs fish in the diet to > provide EPA ready made. It is a sensible thing to do > anyway. The Japanese have the world's longest life > expectancy among all the " Westernized " cultures, and > they eat a LOT of fish. The Japanese also eat very > little red meat. > > A way the omega-3 fatty acids might work is by > actually getting into each cell membrane, making them > more bendable, adaptable and durable. Improved immune > response is another benefit of fish oil consumption, > and it is especially important in the treatment of > lupus. > > So, as my kids would ask, " How much of this stuff do > we have to eat? " Well, oily fish (trout, mackerel, > salmon) are best and a little dab will do you. > Non-oily fish (cod, flounder, haddock) are also worth > having, but you'd need to eat a bit more of them. > Tuna packed in (omega-6 vegetable) oil does not count. > > > Alternatively, you could eat a lot of green leafy > vegetables, use soy oil more often, and take an EPA > supplement. Around 300 to 1,000 milligrams of EPA > daily is frequently recommended. > > Incidentally, the New England Journal of Medicine > (312:1205, 1985) reported that as little as 30 grams > of even low-fat fish per day reduced the 20-year death > rate from coronary heart disease by fifty percent! > That is only about ONE OUNCE of fish daily, actually > providing less than 300 mg of omega-3 fatty acids each > day. This is very strong support indeed. Helping > your skin could actually save your life. > > VEGETABLE JUICE FASTING > Since vegetables, especially green ones, provide > omega-3 linolenic acid, a diet fortified with > quantities of fresh vegetable juice makes more sense > than ever. You also avoid any worries about fish and > water pollution. Grow you own veggies and you can > avoid pesticides and other agricultural chemicals as > well. I've been gardening for 20 years and have never > used anything but fertilizer, mulch, and compost. You > simply don't need the petrochemical bug- and > weed-killers. (I suppose you could even raise your > own fish, for that matter. I hope my daughter doesn't > see me eying her aquarium right now. Just kidding.) > > A diet of juiced vegetables may provide such an > abundance of linolenic acid that it overcomes any > bodily reluctance to metabolize it properly. I know > of two people who tested this theory by going on > periodic one-week juice fasts. Both individuals had > been properly diagnosed with psoriasis by medical > specialists. Over a period of weeks, both fully > recovered. Since psoriasis often comes and goes > anyway, the real significance is that each person has > remained symptom free for many years now. > > Vegetable juice fasting is not starvation. It is just > a lot of liquefied salad. A lot of veggies go into > the daily quart or more of juice that a person > commonly drinks while fasting. That is NOT too much > liquid; doctors often recommend four to eight glasses > of water daily. It is NOT too much " vegetable " in the > diet; you simply cannot hurt yourself with produce. > The juices DO provide carbohydrates, minerals, > vitamins and more protein than you might think. It is > certainly a low fat diet, but a little fish oil may of > course be added to take care of that. > > ZINC SUPPLEMENTATION > Your skin contains one fifth of your body's zinc > supply. Rats and mice that are deficient in zinc > develop a skin condition called keratogenesis that is > very similar to human psoriasis (Hoffer and Walker, > Orthomolecular Nutrition, p 156-157). Zinc deficiency > in humans is the rule, not the exception. The US RDA > for zinc is only 15 milligrams a day, and yet the > average American takes in even less than that. > (Williams, Nutrition and Diet Therapy, 7th ed., page > 253) In spite of this, it is most uncommon to find > either dietitians or doctors ever recommending a > supplement of this mineral. > > Research has shown that supplements of zinc are safe > up to about 500 mg. daily. At that huge dose, over a > period of weeks or months, a copper deficiency may > develop. A more sensible daily dose of 50 mg to > perhaps 100 mg may be maintained for as long as is > desired. A good multiple vitamin along with this will > provide some balancing copper, as will (believe it or > not) the copper water pipes in your home. > > The " amino acid chelated " form of zinc is better > tolerated and better absorbed than zinc sulfate or > other inorganic forms of the mineral. > > VITAMIN SUPPLEMENTATION > The skin is your largest and most visible organ. It > is therefore a good indicator of health in general. > Vitamin shortages are often indicated by skin > problems. Classic clinical deficiencies of riboflavin > (B-2), niacin (B-3), Vitamin A and Vitamin C all > result in skin disease. At the very least, psoriasis > patients should be urged to take a good multivitamin > daily. Everyone knows that it can't hurt, but not > everyone knows how much it might help. Additional > Vitamin A is best taken as non-toxic carotene, which > is in vegetable juices mentioned earlier. A B-complex > supplement provides a balance of all B-vitamins, > ensuring safety. Vitamin C is also non-toxic, even in > very large doses. In our overfed but undernourished > culture, vegetable juice fasting and dietary > supplements make sense to try. There is no medicine > on the market as safe as these. Medicine deficiency > does not cause psoriasis, but nutritional deficiency > might. > > REFERENCES: > Carper, Jean (1993) Food: Your Miracle Medicine. > HarperCollins. pages 445-446 > > Harris, William S. (1985) " Health Effects of Omega-3 > Fatty Acids. " Contemporary Nutrition, 10:8, August. > > Hoffer, Abram and Walker, Morton (1978) Orthomolecular > Nutrition. Keats Publishing, pages 156-157 > > Pfeiffer, Carl (1978) Zinc and Other Micro-Nutrients. > Keats Publishing. > > Vorhees, J.G.; Chakrabarti, S.G.; Botero, F.; Meidler, > L. and Harrell, E. R. (1969) " Zinc Therapy and > Distribution in Psoriasis, " Archives of Dermatology, > 100:669-673. > > > Copyright C 1999 and prior years Andrew W. Saul. > From the books QUACK DOCTOR and PAPERBACK CLINIC, > available from Dr. Andrew Saul, Number 8 Van Buren > Street, Holley, New York 14470. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 23, 2004 See _http://www.psoriasis-healing.com_ (http://www.psoriasis-healing.com) for the diet connection and some gerbs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 21, 2005 What was your TCM diagnosis? Signs and symptoms? was there heat signs and menstral problem with spleen involvement.... Bob www.acuherbals.com Kristi Swicegood <swicegoodies wrote: I treated a mild case of psoriasis in ECTOM clinic with 2 scaling patches (one on anterior hairline, one on elbow) in December before I graduated. My supervisor and I decided that Jia Wei Xiao Yao San was the proper course of treatment, however two months later there is no change in the condition. The patient has also been taking an EFA supplement. Any suggestions? Modifications? Thanks, Kristi http://babel.altavista.com/ and adjust accordingly. If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss TCM with other academics, click on this link Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 21, 2005 --TCM diagnosis was LV Qi Stagnation with heat, indicated by emotional state, and tongue presentation of red sides. There was also some dampness indicated by the tongue coat in the posterior portion of the tongue that appeared slightly yellow. Patient also had tinnitus with high pitch, wiry pulse. Emotional symptoms and tinnitus have improved greatly with treatment, but no diffenrence in the patches of skin. - In Chinese Medicine , " Bob Linde,AP, Herbalist " <boblindeherbalist> wrote: > What was your TCM diagnosis? Signs and symptoms? was there heat signs and menstral problem with spleen involvement.... > Bob > www.acuherbals.com > > Kristi Swicegood <swicegoodies> wrote: > > I treated a mild case of psoriasis in ECTOM clinic with 2 scaling > patches (one on anterior hairline, one on elbow) in December before I > graduated. My supervisor and I decided that Jia Wei Xiao Yao San was > the proper course of treatment, however two months later there is no > change in the condition. The patient has also been taking an EFA > supplement. Any suggestions? Modifications? > Thanks, Kristi > > > > > > To translate this message, copy and paste it into this web link page, http://babel.altavista.com/ > > and adjust accordingly. > > Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the group requires prior permission from the author. > > If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss TCM with other academics, > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 22, 2005 Hi Kristi, I was wondering where the patches of psoriasis are appearing, ie on which channels and where? I am also emailing you directly an info sheet on psoriasis that might also be of use. From the little I understand, psoriasis is an autoimmune disease where there is a thickening of the skin. Without knowing your px it is only possible to throw up a few ideas that might be worth looking at in relationship to your px. I might be thinking a LU KID relationship maybe Ren mai Yin Qiao I might be thinking of a 5 Element meridian relationship of Kid with Lu being on the mother engendering cycle. I might be thinking of a polar pair of Kid LI (LI reflecting skin excess). I might be thinking that the thick skin is an over acting of the Lung (skin being associated with Lung) on the controlling cycle and so look at the treating the Liv Kid on a 5 element meridian bases. I would want to look for what signs showed up on the pulse, on the abdomen, or on the calf muscles before making a treatment, so these are just a few ideas that might make sense to you in light of your patient. There are also some specific immunity treatments within the arsenal of Reflections on the Sea, by Matsumoto and Birch that might also be useful to consider for autoimmune issues. There is one in this book in particular which is tied up with the theory of the SJ and the moving Qi between the Kidneys which I have found to be excellent in treating some CFS and Lupus. Best wishes, Kristi Swicegood [swicegoodies] Tuesday, 22 February 2005 8:55 AM Chinese Medicine Re: psoriasis --TCM diagnosis was LV Qi Stagnation with heat, indicated by emotional state, and tongue presentation of red sides. There was also some dampness indicated by the tongue coat in the posterior portion of the tongue that appeared slightly yellow. Patient also had tinnitus with high pitch, wiry pulse. Emotional symptoms and tinnitus have improved greatly with treatment, but no diffenrence in the patches of skin. - In Chinese Medicine , " Bob Linde,AP, Herbalist " <boblindeherbalist> wrote: > What was your TCM diagnosis? Signs and symptoms? was there heat signs and menstral problem with spleen involvement.... > Bob > www.acuherbals.com > > Kristi Swicegood <swicegoodies> wrote: > > I treated a mild case of psoriasis in ECTOM clinic with 2 scaling > patches (one on anterior hairline, one on elbow) in December before I > graduated. My supervisor and I decided that Jia Wei Xiao Yao San was > the proper course of treatment, however two months later there is no > change in the condition. The patient has also been taking an EFA > supplement. Any suggestions? Modifications? > Thanks, Kristi > > > > > > To translate this message, copy and paste it into this web link page, http://babel.altavista.com/ > > and adjust accordingly. > > Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the group requires prior permission from the author. > > If you are a TCM academic and wish to discuss TCM with other academics, > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 22, 2005 For psoriasis which has a Heat in the Blood factor try out vitamin A (liquid seems to work better) – it cools Blood. I have quite good experiences with vitamin A, usually brings round signifikant change in 1 – 3 weeks. Could also bleed the involved channels’ nail points – usually works well to. + of course pattern treatment. Hope this helps Thomas Bøgedal Sørensen WHRDA Lic. Instruktør Kinesisk Medicinsk Terapeut (KMT) Akupunktør (L.Ac., Dipl.Ac. NADA) TuiNa Massage Terapeut (Exam. TuiNa) Klinik for Akupunktur & Traditionel Kinesisk Medicin Albanigade 23A, Kld. 5000 Odense C Tlf.: (+45) 31 25 92 26 Klinik for Akupunktur & Traditionel Kinesisk Medicin <http://www.orientalskmedicin.dk/> http://www.orientalskmedicin.dk --- Odense Hwa Rang Do® Skole Den koreanske kamp- og lægekunst Hwa Rang Do® <http://hwarangdo.mu-in.com/> http://hwarangdo.mu-in.com --- Dansk Sundhedsservice Totalløsninger til din virksomhed <http://www.dansksundhed.dk/> http://www.dansksundhed.dk Bob Linde,AP, Herbalist [boblindeherbalist] 21. februar 2005 23:04 Chinese Medicine Re: psoriasis What was your TCM diagnosis? Signs and symptoms? was there heat signs and menstral problem with spleen involvement.... Bob www.acuherbals.com Kristi Swicegood <swicegoodies wrote: I treated a mild case of psoriasis in ECTOM clinic with 2 scaling patches (one on anterior hairline, one on elbow) in December before I graduated. My supervisor and I decided that Jia Wei Xiao Yao San was the proper course of treatment, however two months later there is no change in the condition. The patient has also been taking an EFA supplement. Any suggestions? Modifications? Thanks, Kristi http://babel.altavista.com/ and adjust accordingly. Messages are the property of the author. Any duplication outside the group requires prior permission from the author. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 22, 2005 Hello Kristi, As Sharon has mentioned, psoriasis may be caused by one, or often several, of the following: -a genetic error in the control of how skin cells divide -incomplete protein digestion -bowel toxemia/dysbiosis (candida albicans, etc.) -impaired liver functions -alcohol consumption -excessive consumption of animal products -viral or bacterial infections -bad (SAD) diet Without addressing some of these, your patient may not respond as well to the herbal medicinals. Some thoughts, Daniel C. Luthi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 15, 2005 ___________________ Dear Erica, Before I recommend any herbal applications...I was curious to know if you are aware of the powerful healing properties of Bentonite, Calcium Montmorillonite and Pascalite Clay.They are renowned for promoting health in plants, animals and humans. Clay is said to propel the immune system to find a new healthy balance and strengthens the body to a point of higher resistance. I have used the Bentonite internally for alimentary canal cleansing with superb success in the past. (If you want more info...Email me privately) In the meantime, here are a few effective skin applications: Tea tree oil Aloe vera gel directly from the plant itself...just split the leaf and apply it all over your body Jojoba oil (for the scalp) Capsaicin cream reduces psoriasis itching Hot ginger, goldenseal or fresh comfrey compresses Poultices made from chaparral, dandelion, and yellow dock can help. Lavender is excellent to use in a sauna or steam bath because it stimulates new cell growth. Overheating therapy is effective...and sunbathing too if it's agreeable with you. Be Blessed in this knowledge...JOYintheMorning... __________________ Erica <s1ward wrote: Greetings one and all.I have severe plaque psoriasis over 85% of my body.The only thing that is NOT covered are my eyesockets, the palms of my hands and the soles of my feet.It has gotten to the point that I have a hard time walking due to the pus and the sores.I was looking at getting a wheelchair.I am 39.I am most miserable.I take $500.00 a month medication (Omnicef, Methotrexate, steroid creams), and they have cleared me up some, but I have a rash as a side effect from taking THESE.I KNOW there is something herbal I can take that will help me.Please give your advice/comments.123ericaFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 15, 2005 Hello Erica, You definitely need the Total Body Cleanse. Your organs are not working properly, causing the body to excrete the toxins through the skin. Check the files for all the details on the TBC. love Lisa - Erica herbal remedies Sunday, May 15, 2005 1:25 AM Herbal Remedies - Psoriasis Greetings one and all.I have severe plaque psoriasis over 85% of my body.The only thing that is NOT covered are my eyesockets, the palms of my hands and the soles of my feet.It has gotten to the point that I have a hard time walking due to the pus and the sores.I was looking at getting a wheelchair.I am 39.I am most miserable.I take $500.00 a month medication (Omnicef, Methotrexate, steroid creams), and they have cleared me up some, but I have a rash as a side effect from taking THESE.I KNOW there is something herbal I can take that will help me.Please give your advice/comments. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 15, 2005 Hello: I am so sorry to hear what you are going through! Please tell me what you have been doing for diet and cleansing? Thanks! herbal remedies , " Erica " <s1ward> wrote: > Greetings one and all. > I have severe plaque psoriasis over 85% of my body. > The only thing that is NOT covered are my eyesockets, the palms of my > hands and the soles of my feet. > It has gotten to the point that I have a hard time walking due to the > pus and the sores. > I was looking at getting a wheelchair. > I am 39. > I am most miserable. > I take $500.00 a month medication (Omnicef, Methotrexate, steroid > creams), and they have cleared me up some, but I have a rash as a side > effect from taking THESE. > I KNOW there is something herbal I can take that will help me. > Please give your advice/comments. > > 123erica Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 15, 2005 Greetings. You wanted to know what I was taking as far as my diet and cleansing. The truth is, I don't know what to do or take. I eat very little bread and drink no milk at all. I also do not drink sodas or eat beef. I do swallow a lot of vitamins in the morning, most of it is herbal. I am also on $500.00 month medication to clear up my condition. But now my hair is starting to fall out. The psoriasis has cleared up about 75%, and now, it is on my hands, my scalp, and below my knees. But now at least I can walk and wear short sleeves. I play keyboard in my Church, and sometimes I wear gloves so people do not stare at my hands [due to the plaques] and so they do not get cold, for sometimes, my fingers turn purple and deathly cold. I have been reading a book by Dr. Don Colbert entitled, " Toxic Emotions " , and he said that people with severe psoriasis are people that are 'weeping through their skin' due to certain things going on in their lives. I am going through a very severe trial right now, so I wonder if this has anything to do with it. I also know that I need to change how and what I eat. Truthfully, I have eaten the same thing I have always eaten. I have not changed my diet in any way. I have no idea at all what to do. I am tired of medication. I want to take herbal supplements and cleanse out my body which in turn will help with my weight as well as rid me of this dreadful condition. I am tired of scaling like an alligator. I leave scales everywhere I sit. They are all over my bedroom. Please help. I really need help. Thank you for your time. hugs, 123erica herbal remedies , " chel_de " <chelde@e...> wrote: > Hello: > I am so sorry to hear what you are going through! > Please tell me what you have been doing for diet and cleansing? > Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 16, 2005 Cleanses are definitely needed! Remove the toxins and the meds. -- In herbal remedies , " Erica " <s1ward> wrote: > Greetings one and all. > I have severe plaque psoriasis over 85% of my body. > The only thing that is NOT covered are my eyesockets, the palms of my > hands and the soles of my feet. > It has gotten to the point that I have a hard time walking due to the > pus and the sores. > I was looking at getting a wheelchair. > I am 39. > I am most miserable. > I take $500.00 a month medication (Omnicef, Methotrexate, steroid > creams), and they have cleared me up some, but I have a rash as a side > effect from taking THESE. > I KNOW there is something herbal I can take that will help me. > Please give your advice/comments. > > 123erica Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites