Guest guest Report post Posted November 24, 2009 We're all here to learn more about REAL FOOD, so don't worry about it, lol. ;-) Cyndi Barbara <barbara3 Tue, Nov 24, 2009 8:33 am Re: [RFSL] My Oddessey Celia, When I came to the States, I kept my European life style and way of eating. My family never ate anything from cans or other processed foods. Everything was cooked fresh from scratch. I never learned to drink soda pops. To this day I never buy cakes or cookies (have you ever read the list of ingredients? It is enough to scare me from eating that stuff, especially Entenman) I did bake (from scratch) cakes and cookies but that was long time ago. Nowadays I'm on low carb diet. It is surprising to me that Americans live as long as they do on that SAD diet. No offence meant to anyone, please! Barbara Barbara: Having been to Italy recently, it was an eye opening experience to witness first hand the difference between a European and American diet. You read about it and you hear about it, but to LIVE it is something else. (At least when you are used to SAD.) With rare exception of a one Burger King and 2 McDonald's (and I traveled ALL over the country), I did not see fast food places. The Italian equivalent of fast food is what we would call a deli counter here in the states, yet it's different. Always small and mom-and-pop run, everything is fresh and made from scratch, each sandwich a work of art. If you need a mid-day pick-me-up, you can order an espresso in a tiny but real cup that is sipped standing at the counter. (Your sandwich is taken to go unless there are tables nearby.) If that's not enough to satisfy you, you pick up a piece of fresh fruit from a vendor in the town square, often a piece of watermelon, pineapple or coconut on a multi-tiered tray with a waterfall keeping everything fresh. Nary a Twinkie in sight. Imagine that! When you have only healthy choices available, you *make* healthy choices, heh-heh. It was refreshing and wonderful to eat "slow food" the entire time I was in Italy. Ciao! --Celia-- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 24, 2009 Yes, that is a great book! There are tons of recipes using CO online. I also like to look at the recipes at tropicaltraditions.com. They do sell coconut oil too, although I've never tried theirs. I usually get Nutiva, because I like the taste of it raw. Cyndi Barbara <barbara3 Tue, Nov 24, 2009 9:24 am Re: [RFSL] My Oddessey  I do. I use it as a cooking oil because any other oil is not healthy. Olive oil is only marginally healthy. That leaves the CO as the only choice. I also use butter whenever possible because butter is THE healthiest fat there is. In fact, as you all may know, any saturated fat which means of animal origin is protective of your heart, so, very healthy. All vegetable oils are linked to heart disease. Mary Enig PhD has a book "Eat Fat, Lose Fat" that explains this perfectly. Barbara Thanks, Cyndi! --C-- P.S. Anyone on this list that uses coconut oil, would you mind sharing how you use it, what you use it in, for, or whatever? TIA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 24, 2009 Yes it does. I eat my sauerkraut raw, straight out of the jar. We have a brand out here called Bubbies, which is a good brand. Sometimes I will run a jar of kraut thru my Omega juicer, and keep the juice in the fridge. Many days i will drink a small amount of juice first thing in the morning, before anything else. Sounds gross, lol, but i love it, and it's a good way to prepare yourself for assimilating the fats you will eat. Home made kraut is best, of course, which is why I'd love to get that picklemeister to help me. I've tried making it, but haven't been too successful keeping the cabbage covered, so i end up with mold and smelling gunk, which freaks me out and then I won't eat it lol. I LOVE macaroni and cheese, it's my favorite food in the whole world, lol. I rarely ever eat it any more, but I don't think I'll ever stop wanting it lol. cyndi Lara Brown <larabrown Tue, Nov 24, 2009 5:49 am Re: [RFSL] My Oddessey Do you know if cooking sauerkraut kills the "good guys-probiotics-whatever"? I'd think it would. My MIL (also a diabetic) eats few veggies. She like sauerkraut cooked. She's also recovering from c-diff (a horrible intestinal bug). Her idea of healthy food is mac cheese (I kid you not). Lara <> >cyndikrall (AT) aol (DOT) com [cyndikrall (AT) aol (DOT) com] >11/24/2009 12:26:33 AM > >Re: [RFSL] My Oddessey > > >I've had my eye on something called a "picklemeister." It supposedly lets you >ferment sauerkraut and pickles in a very short time. I love sauerkraut and eat >it (raw) all the time. It's excellent for gut health, and for helping the body >assimilate fats. I also drink kefir and kombucha. Both are fermented and very >good for you, if you haven't heard of them already. > >Cyndi > > > > >Kelly Weyd <kellmar98 > > >Mon, Nov 23, 2009 9:45 am >Re: [RFSL] My Oddessey > > > > >We have cut out almost all soy too in our house.......nasty stuff, and it's in >everything. I stopped buying bottled salad dressing, and making my >own........things like that to cut out soy. Soy should not be eaten unless it's >fermented. I'm also of the belief that people can be vegetarian if they want >to, and not have to eat soy. I think that's another way people have been >suckered.......the thinking that if they become vegetarian they have to eat soy >to get protein. Nature has plenty of other protein sources. > >Have you tried making your own traditional sourdough bread? You can still have >your bread, but sourdough breaks down a lot of the sugars and starches. > >Also do you ferment your own vegy's? That is my next quest in our house. I've >made ferments before, but I've never sure if I'm doing it right. So I'm >ordering a fermenting product to help me. Apparently it's a fermenting jar, >that releases the CO2, etc. > >What is ADA? American Diabetes Association maybe? Yep, they recommend way too >many carbs. My hubby is diabetic and his own doctor (Endocrynologist) told him >that it's way too many carbs. My husband does better on meat and vegetables and >little carbs. He can eat cheese, butter and other fats and be ok, but is >bread/pasta that makes his sugars go out of control. He can eat my sourdough >bread in moderation. It does not spike his sugars like regular breads do. > >I'm an enviro girl so always nice to hear of people using less, reducing, etc. >Yes, a more simple lifestyle is best when it comes to diet and the >environment.......I think the two go hand in hand. >Kelly > >--- On Mon, 11/23/09, Celia B <lady_celia > wrote: > > >Celia B <lady_celia > >[RFSL] My Oddessey > >Monday, November 23, 2009, 10:01 AM > > > >Cyndi! > >So much to say, so little time. I'm at work but really excited so had to take a >quick break and drop a line. <giggles> > >Weston A. Price. > >I've been on quite an Odyssey the last few years and my life has changed so >much. Oddly, the farther my life has strayed from its original path, the closer >it has brought me "home." I no longer have the house, garden, make my own >compost and recycle everything (I live in a small apartment in the country and >there *is* no recycling out here!), yet I've reduced and downsized; I eat less, >use less, consume less, waste less and use resources wisely, thereby reducing my >carbon impact on this planet. I was originally distressed not to be able to >garden and what-not, but I truly love my more minimalistic, low pressure >lifestyle (which also has a lot to do with my current occupation). And since I'm >in the country, I have access to local farm produce and fresh eggs, so not so bad. > >When we first met online years ago, I ate mostly a vegetarian diet with a lot of >soy products. Wow! Was I ever duped by the ADA, USDA and the agenda of (probably >well-meaning) animal rights activists into thinking I was doing right by my >body. How wrong I was! Not only do I now believe soy NOT be good for your body >but soy products are processed and refined into junk food to nake things worse. >(If your grandma wouldn't recognize it, don't eat it, LOL!) I've long had a >desire to get "back to basics" with my diet, but meat and fat continued to be a >stumbling block for me, as the "low fat is good/meat is bad" message was so >deeply ingrained. > >You encouraged me to check out Weston A. Price and I did, but wasn't ready to >totally buy into it...yet. I still believed in "good" carbs as the ADA calls >them and included LOTS of them in my diet. (Hey, if a little is good, a lot is >better, right??? Wrong.) I continued to search my soul, read books, listen to >friends and research online, and I read Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution. A >light bulb lit up in my head! I ended up on a low-carb Atkins style diet and >found myself feeling better, looking better, feeling satiated when I ate and no >longer gassy, bloated and tired from my "good carb" diet. The increased fat in >my diet actually made me LOSE weight, haha, and I felt full between meals. The >more I researched and inquired about this way of eating, the more everything >(and everybody) kept pointing me back to Weston A. Price... > >End of story. I'm back where I started but healthier, happier and much, much >wiser. As Dorothy said as she clicked her ruby slippers together, "There's no >place like home, there's no place like home..." > >Just want to thank you, Cyndi, for being my guiding light in all things >(nutritionally speaking). *wink* > >(((HUGS))) > >--Cee-- > > > > > > >Reply to sender | Reply to group >Messages in this topic (7) > >=== message truncated === http://toolbar.Care2.com Make your computer carbon-neutral (free). http://www.Care2.com Green Living, Human Rights and more - 8 million members! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 24, 2009 HA! Love it! Cyndi Barbara <barbara3 Tue, Nov 24, 2009 1:24 pm Re: [RFSL] My Oddessey  No junk food is very good. Once the kids get used to eating good food, they may elect not to eat junk. Talk to them about the whole foods, you'd be surprised how much you can influence their choices. My son was about 6 or 7 when we were in the car. We passed WONDER BREAD truck. My son said: Wonder bread...I 'wonder' how do they survive on it...LOL Barbara Barbara, my grandmother was from France and she too never changed her way of eating, even after 75 years in the States. You definitely did not offend me, and I doubt others on this list will be either. You are simply stating a fact...Americans have a poor diet. You are not putting Americans down. We are, for the most part, more enlightened about the dangers of SAD on this list and seek to change our dietary habits, hence no offense taken! I can't control the kind of food my grandchildren will be exposed to once they are old enough to go to school and over to friend's houses, but luckily for me I am raising them while their parents work so they get only fresh, wholesome 'slow food' from grandma. No junk in this house!!! <smiles> --Celia-- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 24, 2009  Yes. CO is very stable in high temperatures. It will not smoke up to 400+F. (482°F floats in my head but I may be wrong) Butter OTOH burns easily, so depending what I'm making I use either or. Barbara I tend to use butter in my frying pan, and I only use olive oil for salad dressing. I have used CO in baking and cooking in the past with great success. I do like it in Thai cooking also. Do you find an advantage to using Co over butter in your frying pan? --C-- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 24, 2009 I use the tropical traditions......good stuff!!! Makes me think I'm opening a fresh coconut every time I open it. Only thing I would say to people is don't use the cheap grocery store stuff. There is such a difference between brands like Spectrum (yuck) and good quality coconut oil like tropical traditions.Kelly--- On Tue, 11/24/09, cyndikrall <cyndikrall wrote:cyndikrall <cyndikrallRe: [RFSL] My Oddessey Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 5:15 PM Yes, that is a great book! There are tons of recipes using CO online. I also like to look at the recipes at tropicaltraditions. com. They do sell coconut oil too, although I've never tried theirs. I usually get Nutiva, because I like the taste of it raw. Cyndi Barbara <barbara3 (AT) tampabay (DOT) rr.com> Tue, Nov 24, 2009 9:24 am Re: [RFSL] My Oddessey  I do. I use it as a cooking oil because any other oil is not healthy. Olive oil is only marginally healthy. That leaves the CO as the only choice. I also use butter whenever possible because butter is THE healthiest fat there is. In fact, as you all may know, any saturated fat which means of animal origin is protective of your heart, so, very healthy. All vegetable oils are linked to heart disease. Mary Enig PhD has a book "Eat Fat, Lose Fat" that explains this perfectly. Barbara Thanks, Cyndi! --C-- P.S. Anyone on this list that uses coconut oil, would you mind sharing how you use it, what you use it in, for, or whatever? TIA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 24, 2009 I've made kraut, but I have trouble getting it right too and have had weird mold on top. Apparently some mold on top is normal, but last time I just decided it was too much mold. I've heard getting over the mold issues is people's biggest obstacle to eating fermented foods. The cabbage has to be completely submerged and no floating bits. I'm gonna keep trying to get it right. I've heard lots about Bubbies, but not tried them before. Yes, the juice is extremely healthy.Kelly--- On Tue, 11/24/09, cyndikrall <cyndikrall wrote:cyndikrall <cyndikrallRe: [RFSL] My Oddessey Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 5:22 PM Yes it does. I eat my sauerkraut raw, straight out of the jar. We have a brand out here called Bubbies, which is a good brand. Sometimes I will run a jar of kraut thru my Omega juicer, and keep the juice in the fridge. Many days i will drink a small amount of juice first thing in the morning, before anything else. Sounds gross, lol, but i love it, and it's a good way to prepare yourself for assimilating the fats you will eat. Home made kraut is best, of course, which is why I'd love to get that picklemeister to help me. I've tried making it, but haven't been too successful keeping the cabbage covered, so i end up with mold and smelling gunk, which freaks me out and then I won't eat it lol. I LOVE macaroni and cheese, it's my favorite food in the whole world, lol. I rarely ever eat it any more, but I don't think I'll ever stop wanting it lol. cyndi Lara Brown <larabrown (AT) care2 (DOT) com> Tue, Nov 24, 2009 5:49 am Re: [RFSL] My Oddessey Do you know if cooking sauerkraut kills the "good guys-probiotics- whatever" ? I'd think it would. My MIL (also a diabetic) eats few veggies. She like sauerkraut cooked. She's also recovering from c-diff (a horrible intestinal bug). Her idea of healthy food is mac cheese (I kid you not). Lara <> >cyndikrall (AT) aol (DOT) com [cyndikrall@ aol.com] >11/24/2009 12:26:33 AM > >Re: [RFSL] My Oddessey > > >I've had my eye on something called a "picklemeister. " It supposedly lets you >ferment sauerkraut and pickles in a very short time. I love sauerkraut and eat >it (raw) all the time. It's excellent for gut health, and for helping the body >assimilate fats. I also drink kefir and kombucha. Both are fermented and very >good for you, if you haven't heard of them already. > >Cyndi > > > > >Kelly Weyd <kellmar98 > > >Mon, Nov 23, 2009 9:45 am >Re: [RFSL] My Oddessey > > > > >We have cut out almost all soy too in our house....... nasty stuff, and it's in >everything. I stopped buying bottled salad dressing, and making my >own........things like that to cut out soy. Soy should not be eaten unless it's >fermented. I'm also of the belief that people can be vegetarian if they want >to, and not have to eat soy. I think that's another way people have been >suckered.... ...the thinking that if they become vegetarian they have to eat soy >to get protein. Nature has plenty of other protein sources. > >Have you tried making your own traditional sourdough bread? You can still have >your bread, but sourdough breaks down a lot of the sugars and starches. > >Also do you ferment your own vegy's? That is my next quest in our house. I've >made ferments before, but I've never sure if I'm doing it right. So I'm >ordering a fermenting product to help me. Apparently it's a fermenting jar, >that releases the CO2, etc. > >What is ADA? American Diabetes Association maybe? Yep, they recommend way too >many carbs. My hubby is diabetic and his own doctor (Endocrynologist) told him >that it's way too many carbs. My husband does better on meat and vegetables and >little carbs. He can eat cheese, butter and other fats and be ok, but is >bread/pasta that makes his sugars go out of control. He can eat my sourdough >bread in moderation. It does not spike his sugars like regular breads do. > >I'm an enviro girl so always nice to hear of people using less, reducing, etc. >Yes, a more simple lifestyle is best when it comes to diet and the >environment. ......I think the two go hand in hand. >Kelly > >--- On Mon, 11/23/09, Celia B <lady_celia > wrote: > > >Celia B <lady_celia > >[RFSL] My Oddessey > >Monday, November 23, 2009, 10:01 AM > > > >Cyndi! > >So much to say, so little time. I'm at work but really excited so had to take a >quick break and drop a line. <giggles> > >Weston A. Price. > >I've been on quite an Odyssey the last few years and my life has changed so >much. Oddly, the farther my life has strayed from its original path, the closer >it has brought me "home." I no longer have the house, garden, make my own >compost and recycle everything (I live in a small apartment in the country and >there *is* no recycling out here!), yet I've reduced and downsized; I eat less, >use less, consume less, waste less and use resources wisely, thereby reducing my >carbon impact on this planet. I was originally distressed not to be able to >garden and what-not, but I truly love my more minimalistic, low pressure >lifestyle (which also has a lot to do with my current occupation). And since I'm >in the country, I have access to local farm produce and fresh eggs, so not so bad. > >When we first met online years ago, I ate mostly a vegetarian diet with a lot of >soy products. Wow! Was I ever duped by the ADA, USDA and the agenda of (probably >well-meaning) animal rights activists into thinking I was doing right by my >body. How wrong I was! Not only do I now believe soy NOT be good for your body >but soy products are processed and refined into junk food to nake things worse. >(If your grandma wouldn't recognize it, don't eat it, LOL!) I've long had a >desire to get "back to basics" with my diet, but meat and fat continued to be a >stumbling block for me, as the "low fat is good/meat is bad" message was so >deeply ingrained. > >You encouraged me to check out Weston A. Price and I did, but wasn't ready to >totally buy into it...yet. I still believed in "good" carbs as the ADA calls >them and included LOTS of them in my diet. (Hey, if a little is good, a lot is >better, right??? Wrong.) I continued to search my soul, read books, listen to >friends and research online, and I read Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution. A >light bulb lit up in my head! I ended up on a low-carb Atkins style diet and >found myself feeling better, looking better, feeling satiated when I ate and no >longer gassy, bloated and tired from my "good carb" diet. The increased fat in >my diet actually made me LOSE weight, haha, and I felt full between meals. The >more I researched and inquired about this way of eating, the more everything >(and everybody) kept pointing me back to Weston A. Price... > >End of story. I'm back where I started but healthier, happier and much, much >wiser. As Dorothy said as she clicked her ruby slippers together, "There's no >place like home, there's no place like home..." > >Just want to thank you, Cyndi, for being my guiding light in all things >(nutritionally speaking). *wink* > >(((HUGS))) > >--Cee-- > > > > > > >Reply to sender | Reply to group >Messages in this topic (7) > >=== message truncated === http://toolbar. 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Guest guest Report post Posted November 24, 2009 I should say I have had more success fermenting cucumbers into pickles.Kelly--- On Tue, 11/24/09, cyndikrall <cyndikrall wrote:cyndikrall <cyndikrallRe: [RFSL] My Oddessey Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 5:22 PM Yes it does. I eat my sauerkraut raw, straight out of the jar. We have a brand out here called Bubbies, which is a good brand. Sometimes I will run a jar of kraut thru my Omega juicer, and keep the juice in the fridge. Many days i will drink a small amount of juice first thing in the morning, before anything else. Sounds gross, lol, but i love it, and it's a good way to prepare yourself for assimilating the fats you will eat. Home made kraut is best, of course, which is why I'd love to get that picklemeister to help me. I've tried making it, but haven't been too successful keeping the cabbage covered, so i end up with mold and smelling gunk, which freaks me out and then I won't eat it lol. I LOVE macaroni and cheese, it's my favorite food in the whole world, lol. I rarely ever eat it any more, but I don't think I'll ever stop wanting it lol. cyndi Lara Brown <larabrown (AT) care2 (DOT) com> Tue, Nov 24, 2009 5:49 am Re: [RFSL] My Oddessey Do you know if cooking sauerkraut kills the "good guys-probiotics- whatever" ? I'd think it would. My MIL (also a diabetic) eats few veggies. She like sauerkraut cooked. She's also recovering from c-diff (a horrible intestinal bug). Her idea of healthy food is mac cheese (I kid you not). Lara <> >cyndikrall (AT) aol (DOT) com [cyndikrall@ aol.com] >11/24/2009 12:26:33 AM > >Re: [RFSL] My Oddessey > > >I've had my eye on something called a "picklemeister. " It supposedly lets you >ferment sauerkraut and pickles in a very short time. I love sauerkraut and eat >it (raw) all the time. It's excellent for gut health, and for helping the body >assimilate fats. I also drink kefir and kombucha. Both are fermented and very >good for you, if you haven't heard of them already. > >Cyndi > > > > >Kelly Weyd <kellmar98 > > >Mon, Nov 23, 2009 9:45 am >Re: [RFSL] My Oddessey > > > > >We have cut out almost all soy too in our house....... nasty stuff, and it's in >everything. I stopped buying bottled salad dressing, and making my >own........things like that to cut out soy. Soy should not be eaten unless it's >fermented. I'm also of the belief that people can be vegetarian if they want >to, and not have to eat soy. I think that's another way people have been >suckered.... ...the thinking that if they become vegetarian they have to eat soy >to get protein. Nature has plenty of other protein sources. > >Have you tried making your own traditional sourdough bread? You can still have >your bread, but sourdough breaks down a lot of the sugars and starches. > >Also do you ferment your own vegy's? That is my next quest in our house. I've >made ferments before, but I've never sure if I'm doing it right. So I'm >ordering a fermenting product to help me. Apparently it's a fermenting jar, >that releases the CO2, etc. > >What is ADA? American Diabetes Association maybe? Yep, they recommend way too >many carbs. My hubby is diabetic and his own doctor (Endocrynologist) told him >that it's way too many carbs. My husband does better on meat and vegetables and >little carbs. He can eat cheese, butter and other fats and be ok, but is >bread/pasta that makes his sugars go out of control. He can eat my sourdough >bread in moderation. It does not spike his sugars like regular breads do. > >I'm an enviro girl so always nice to hear of people using less, reducing, etc. >Yes, a more simple lifestyle is best when it comes to diet and the >environment. ......I think the two go hand in hand. >Kelly > >--- On Mon, 11/23/09, Celia B <lady_celia > wrote: > > >Celia B <lady_celia > >[RFSL] My Oddessey > >Monday, November 23, 2009, 10:01 AM > > > >Cyndi! > >So much to say, so little time. I'm at work but really excited so had to take a >quick break and drop a line. <giggles> > >Weston A. Price. > >I've been on quite an Odyssey the last few years and my life has changed so >much. Oddly, the farther my life has strayed from its original path, the closer >it has brought me "home." I no longer have the house, garden, make my own >compost and recycle everything (I live in a small apartment in the country and >there *is* no recycling out here!), yet I've reduced and downsized; I eat less, >use less, consume less, waste less and use resources wisely, thereby reducing my >carbon impact on this planet. I was originally distressed not to be able to >garden and what-not, but I truly love my more minimalistic, low pressure >lifestyle (which also has a lot to do with my current occupation). And since I'm >in the country, I have access to local farm produce and fresh eggs, so not so bad. > >When we first met online years ago, I ate mostly a vegetarian diet with a lot of >soy products. Wow! Was I ever duped by the ADA, USDA and the agenda of (probably >well-meaning) animal rights activists into thinking I was doing right by my >body. How wrong I was! Not only do I now believe soy NOT be good for your body >but soy products are processed and refined into junk food to nake things worse. >(If your grandma wouldn't recognize it, don't eat it, LOL!) I've long had a >desire to get "back to basics" with my diet, but meat and fat continued to be a >stumbling block for me, as the "low fat is good/meat is bad" message was so >deeply ingrained. > >You encouraged me to check out Weston A. Price and I did, but wasn't ready to >totally buy into it...yet. I still believed in "good" carbs as the ADA calls >them and included LOTS of them in my diet. (Hey, if a little is good, a lot is >better, right??? Wrong.) I continued to search my soul, read books, listen to >friends and research online, and I read Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution. A >light bulb lit up in my head! I ended up on a low-carb Atkins style diet and >found myself feeling better, looking better, feeling satiated when I ate and no >longer gassy, bloated and tired from my "good carb" diet. The increased fat in >my diet actually made me LOSE weight, haha, and I felt full between meals. The >more I researched and inquired about this way of eating, the more everything >(and everybody) kept pointing me back to Weston A. Price... > >End of story. I'm back where I started but healthier, happier and much, much >wiser. As Dorothy said as she clicked her ruby slippers together, "There's no >place like home, there's no place like home..." > >Just want to thank you, Cyndi, for being my guiding light in all things >(nutritionally speaking). *wink* > >(((HUGS))) > >--Cee-- > > > > > > >Reply to sender | Reply to group >Messages in this topic (7) > >=== message truncated === http://toolbar. 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Guest guest Report post Posted November 24, 2009  Thank you! Barbara We're all here to learn more about REAL FOOD, so don't worry about it, lol. ;-)Cyndi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 24, 2009  If only all people got smart and stop using all vegetable oils, I bet half of the heart disease would disapear. I also got the Nutiva lately but I don't eat it straight of the spoon. Barbara Yes, that is a great book! There are tons of recipes using CO online. I also like to look at the recipes at tropicaltraditions.com. They do sell coconut oil too, although I've never tried theirs. I usually get Nutiva, because I like the taste of it raw. Cyndi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 25, 2009 I do on days I dont use it in cooking. Or when I want a chocolatey treat. LOL! Cyndi Barbara <barbara3 Tue, Nov 24, 2009 3:56 pm Re: [RFSL] My Oddessey  If only all people got smart and stop using all vegetable oils, I bet half of the heart disease would disapear. I also got the Nutiva lately but I don't eat it straight of the spoon. Barbara Yes, that is a great book! There are tons of recipes using CO online. I also like to look at the recipes at tropicaltraditions.com. They do sell coconut oil too, although I've never tried theirs. I usually get Nutiva, because I like the taste of it raw. Cyndi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 25, 2009 My favorite way to use CO...popcorn. The flavor of the popcorn is delicious when using only CO. My family will have it no other way now. I buy mine from Tropical Traditions. Tracy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 25, 2009 Yes, it makes the popcorn pop better taste great! But my family (mostly husband overweight high bad cholestoral), still insists on pouring butter on.The kids are ok but take after him. I'm not comfortable with all that saturated fat. <> >Tracy Beadle [beadlebugs] >11/25/2009 10:28:00 AM > >Re: [RFSL] Re: My Oddessey > > >My favorite way to use CO...popcorn. The flavor of the popcorn is delicious >when using only CO. My family will have it no other way now. I buy mine from >Tropical Traditions. >Tracy > > > > >=== message truncated === http://toolbar.Care2.com Make your computer carbon-neutral (free).http://www.Care2.com Green Living, Human Rights and more - 8 million members! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2009 LOL! I used to think it's a "wonder" that they can even call that stuff bread... --C-- --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Barbara <barbara3 wrote: Barbara <barbara3Re: [RFSL] My Oddessey Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 4:24 PM  No junk food is very good. Once the kids get used to eating good food, they may elect not to eat junk. Talk to them about the whole foods, you'd be surprised how much you can influence their choices. My son was about 6 or 7 when we were in the car. We passed WONDER BREAD truck. My son said: Wonder bread...I 'wonder' how do they survive on it...LOL Barbara .. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2009 <cleaning up old e-mail> Thank you, thank you, thank you to EVERYONE who replied with comments and suggestions about CO. (Don't want to clog up everyone's mail boxes with a million separate replies!) I don't eat popcorn anymore (I'm Type II diabetic--too many carbs), but I could see how delicious that could taste! I've used coconut oil in the past in a no-sugar-added fudge recipe and it give it a cool creaminess that you couldn't get with other fats. I will have to find someplace that sells Tropical Traditions just to try it. The only kind I can find around here is Spectrum brand, and it sounds like that's an inferior brand from reading the other posts. --C-- --- On Wed, 11/25/09, Tracy Beadle <beadlebugs wrote: Tracy Beadle <beadlebugs[RFSL] Re: My Oddessey Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 10:28 AM My favorite way to use CO...popcorn. The flavor of the popcorn is delicious when using only CO. My family will have it no other way now. I buy mine from Tropical Traditions. Tracy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2009 You can order Tropical Traditions on the internet. Do you have a health food store in your area? They should have a better brand.Kelly--- On Mon, 11/30/09, Celia Browne <lady_celia wrote:Celia Browne <lady_celiaRe: [RFSL] Re: My Oddessey Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 8:24 AM <cleaning up old e-mail> Thank you, thank you, thank you to EVERYONE who replied with comments and suggestions about CO. (Don't want to clog up everyone's mail boxes with a million separate replies!) I don't eat popcorn anymore (I'm Type II diabetic--too many carbs), but I could see how delicious that could taste! I've used coconut oil in the past in a no-sugar-added fudge recipe and it give it a cool creaminess that you couldn't get with other fats. I will have to find someplace that sells Tropical Traditions just to try it. The only kind I can find around here is Spectrum brand, and it sounds like that's an inferior brand from reading the other posts. --C-- --- On Wed, 11/25/09, Tracy Beadle <beadlebugs > wrote: Tracy Beadle <beadlebugs >[RFSL] Re: My OddesseyWednesday, November 25, 2009, 10:28 AM My favorite way to use CO...popcorn. The flavor of the popcorn is delicious when using only CO. My family will have it no other way now. I buy mine from Tropical Traditions. Tracy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2009 Cee, I use Nutiva, which is pretty easily found around here at health food stores and Whole Foods. I really like it too. I don't think you're going to be able to find TT locally, I've never seen it sold in stores. I think you have to mail order it (which you can certainly do if you can't find a good brand in your area.) Cyndi :-) Celia Browne <lady_celia Mon, Nov 30, 2009 5:24 am Re: [RFSL] Re: My Oddessey <cleaning up old e-mail> Thank you, thank you, thank you to EVERYONE who replied with comments and suggestions about CO. (Don't want to clog up everyone's mail boxes with a million separate replies!) I don't eat popcorn anymore (I'm Type II diabetic--too many carbs), but I could see how delicious that could taste! I've used coconut oil in the past in a no-sugar-added fudge recipe and it give it a cool creaminess that you couldn't get with other fats. I will have to find someplace that sells Tropical Traditions just to try it. The only kind I can find around here is Spectrum brand, and it sounds like that's an inferior brand from reading the other posts. --C-- --- On Wed, 11/25/09, Tracy Beadle <beadlebugs > wrote: Tracy Beadle <beadlebugs > [RFSL] Re: My Oddessey Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 10:28 AM My favorite way to use CO...popcorn. The flavor of the popcorn is delicious when using only CO. My family will have it no other way now. I buy mine from Tropical Traditions. Tracy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 30, 2009 LOL! Yes, I have several HF stores in the area, and I bet you're right. Thinking back now, I *do* remember them having other brands but I went into sticker shock and bought Spectrum because it was cheaper and on sale. I know, I know...you get what you pay for. Any personal recommendations, anyone, of what brand or type to buy? Raw vs., what? Refined??? I know very little about CO quality, taste, and what's best for your health. This relative newbie to CO could use some assistance... *wink* --C-- --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Kelly Weyd <kellmar98 wrote: Kelly Weyd <kellmar98Re: [RFSL] Re: My Oddessey Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 10:23 AM You can order Tropical Traditions on the internet. Do you have a health food store in your area? They should have a better brand.Kelly--- On Mon, 11/30/09, Celia Browne <lady_celia > wrote: Celia Browne <lady_celia >Re: [RFSL] Re: My OddesseyMonday, November 30, 2009, 8:24 AM <cleaning up old e-mail> Thank you, thank you, thank you to EVERYONE who replied with comments and suggestions about CO. (Don't want to clog up everyone's mail boxes with a million separate replies!) I don't eat popcorn anymore (I'm Type II diabetic--too many carbs), but I could see how delicious that could taste! I've used coconut oil in the past in a no-sugar-added fudge recipe and it give it a cool creaminess that you couldn't get with other fats. I will have to find someplace that sells Tropical Traditions just to try it. The only kind I can find around here is Spectrum brand, and it sounds like that's an inferior brand from reading the other posts. --C-- --- On Wed, 11/25/09, Tracy Beadle <beadlebugs > wrote: Tracy Beadle <beadlebugs >[RFSL] Re: My OddesseyWednesday, November 25, 2009, 10:28 AM My favorite way to use CO...popcorn. The flavor of the popcorn is delicious when using only CO. My family will have it no other way now. I buy mine from Tropical Traditions. Tracy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 4, 2009 I missed this one before. Yes, Cyndi...their whole attitude and values about meal time and eating is much like ours "used" to be in the 40's and 50's. How we've changed, and BNOT for the better.... --C----- On Tue, 11/24/09, cyndikrall <cyndikrall wrote: cyndikrall <cyndikrallRe: [RFSL] My Oddessey Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 5:01 PM The thing that impresses me also is the WAY Europeans eat, also. People take the time to sit down together and really enjoy their meal. When my husband was in Barcelona, he said everything closed down for the afternoon meal and siesta. No eating in cars, no drive thru's, junk. It's a totally different perception of meal time. Cyndi Celia Browne <lady_celia >Tue, Nov 24, 2009 7:15 amRe: [RFSL] My Oddessey Barbara: Having been to Italy recently, it was an eye opening experience to witness first hand the difference between a European and American diet. You read about it and you hear about it, but to LIVE it is something else. (At least when you are used to SAD.) With rare exception of a one Burger King and 2 McDonald's (and I traveled ALL over the country), I did not see fast food places. The Italian equivalent of fast food is what we would call a deli counter here in the states, yet it's different. Always small and mom-and-pop run, everything is fresh and made from scratch, each sandwich a work of art. If you need a mid-day pick-me-up, you can order an espresso in a tiny but real cup that is sipped standing at the counter. (Your sandwich is taken to go unless there are tables nearby.) If that's not enough to satisfy you, you pick up a piece of fresh fruit from a vendor in the town square, often a piece of watermelon, pineapple or coconut on a multi-tiered tray with a waterfall keeping everything fresh. Nary a Twinkie in sight. Imagine that! When you have only healthy choices available, you *make* healthy choices, heh-heh. It was refreshing and wonderful to eat "slow food" the entire time I was in Italy. Ciao! --Celia-- --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Barbara <barbara3 (AT) tampabay (DOT) rr.com> wrote: Barbara <barbara3 (AT) tampabay (DOT) rr.com>Re: [RFSL] My OddesseyTuesday, November 24, 2009, 12:30 AM  You are very welcome Cyndi! I'm afraid that you know more than me We all are learning. It is maybe a little easier for me because I am foreigner and that is how people live in Europe but still I'm learning about fine tuning my diet and supplements. Barbara Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
