hiv

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Anything that one believes will cause healing, will work. ;o)

 

Skye

 

 

herbal remedies , " Beth Crumley "

<heybeth2000> wrote:

> Anyone think that green tea is beneficial to hiv? I have a friend

who

> thinks it makes him feel better and that it is helping the

condition.

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Hi Beth

 

 

On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 02:38:02 -0000, Beth Crumley wrote:

> Anyone think that green tea is beneficial to hiv? I have a friend who

> thinks it makes him feel better and that it is helping the condition.

>

 

I have JUST purchased the book Heinerman's Healing Juices and he states PUMPKIN

juice is the best for this condition. He recommends 2 cups of pumpkin juice

per day with meals. I hope this helps.

 

Persian

oops sorry, don't know about the green tea.

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i would like to know from any group members if there is a cure for hiv

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Many of us believe that HIV can only induce AIDS when the body is already in a weakened state. The key nutritional weakness is chronic nutritional deficiency. Toxic environments and destructive lifestyle choices round out the reasons for health weakness, setting the stage for HIV of another opportunistic microorganism to become very destructive.You will have read here that OS is effective against HIV and some other viruses. There are many links to other sites, describing other 'remedies'. There are no magic bullets. Lifestyle change is tantamount for restoring health. Nutrition and excercise.Orthodox medicine will tell you that there is no cure for HIV. Indeed, destroying viable copies of the virus is very hard to do; one's own body will likely be damaged as much as the virus is damaged. So there is no cure. But you can be rid of the virus in several years. Stop the virus from

reproducing! Please read on.HIV is an lipid encapsulated retrovirus. All these viruses have a weakness. If you interfere with the lipid encapsulation and implantation and new copies of the virus cannot be formed, the viral infestation will end as current copies degenerate. This may be a 2 to 5 year process. Butylated Hydroxytoluene (BHT, a common food preservative) is a cheap effective agent that interferes with the virus's reproduction. It can be found at many retail sources. 5 to 8 grams per day is the effective amount. A reference article regarding this is listed at Townsend Letter for Doctors and Patients. It has been about 15 years since I read the article, and so I cannot quote you rhyme and verse. You can search and find out to your own satisfaction.Michael L. Goebel, D.C., ACNalicia <sassyzand wrote: i would like to know from any group members if there is a cure for hiv

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The causes, nature and treatment for HIV/AIDS (and even existence of

HIV) are subjects of much debate, which I won't get into here as the

subject is not one I am that well versed in. However, quite a few

people believe that one of the zapper type machines (i.e., the Beck,

Clark or Rife type machines) is the answer.

 

The most successful HIV fighter that I know about is the supplement

Sutherlandia OPC which combines extracts of 80% oleander and 20%

sutherlandia frutescans (aka the South African Cancer Bush.

 

Over the past three plus years, hundreds of HIV sufferers in South

Africa have taken this potent supplement and, at last report, thus far

every single one is alive and doing well with HIV symptoms either

reversed or stabilized.

 

For more info:

 

http://www.sutherlandiaopc.com

 

I might note that the Sutherlandia OPC was devised by one of the noted

members of this group and it's use against HIV and cancer is currently

the subject of a doctoral thesis. Preliminary results have been so

impressive that the production of the supplement has had to be

increased several fold.

 

If it were me and I had either HIV or cancer (as well as a number of

other serious conditions), I would absolutely include the OPC

supplement and the colloidal silver made by Utopia Silver (or perhaps

made at home if you have one of the superior silver making machines

such as Silver Puppy or Silver Gen).

 

I would also follow a very healthy diet and lifestyle that included a

great many raw vegetables and a good quantity of raw fruits. The new

article by Mike Adams about Juice Feasting that Robert Blau posted

(thanks Robert!) is one I would encourage everyone here to be sure to

read.

 

Such a diet, combined with detoxing and removal of contaminants in the

body and personal envrironment, lifestyle and the right supplements

could very likely be the answer to a great many health conditions for

a great many people.

 

If it were me, I would combine both juice fasting (especially at the

outset) and juice " feasting " as outlined in the article.

 

 

oleander soup , " alicia " <sassyzand wrote:

>

> i would like to know from any group members if there is a cure for hiv

>

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You might be interested in this one:

 

Top Scientists Ask Medical Journal ScienceTo Retract Original AIDS Papers

SAN FRANCISCO (Rethinking AIDS) Dec. 9, 2008—The international nonprofit scientific organization Rethinking AIDS gave its full support today to 37 senior researchers, medical doctors and legal professionals who are requesting that the medical journal Science withdraw four seminal papers on HIV authored by Dr. Robert Gallo—papers widely touted as proof that HIV is the "probable cause of AIDS." An online posting of the letter can be found here. "With new findings that undermine the scientific integrity and veracity of Gallo's four papers, the entire basis of the theory that HIV causes AIDS may now be questioned," says Rethinking AIDS president David Crowe.The letter to the journal comes at a time when the microbiology world is abuzz about Gallo's omission from the 2008 Nobel Prize in medicine for the discovery of HIV, contrary to an international agreement that the two teams should share credit. French scientists Drs. Luc Montagnier and Francoise Barré-Sinoussi are instead to be given the award, a decision that also implicitly questions the scientific integrity of Gallo's claim of the discovery. Montagnier, however, admitted on camera more than a decade ago that his experiments did not purify any virus.The four papers were originally published on May 4, 1984, a few days after a press conference by Gallo announcing he had discovered the "probable cause of AIDS." Now, a British investigative journalist has shown that Gallo's claim was based on last-minute alterations to documents that make false claims about the results of his lab work and research experiments. The letter to Science sent by the 37 experts on Monday, Dec. 1, 2008, includes a copy of Gallo's handwritten changes to the article, a letter from an electron microscopy expert indicating that Gallo's samples did not contain any virus, and a letter from Gallo to a researcher verifying that HIV could not be purified directly from human materials.The investigative conclusion prompting the letter to Science was made by journalist Janine Roberts, author of Fear of the Invisible, a book that examines the origin of several disease theories. "I was shocked when I read the original draft of the key scientific paper now widely cited as proving HIV causes AIDS," says Roberts. "Gallo's handwritten last-minute changes had reversed what the scientists in his lab had originally concluded. This demonstrates a stunning disregard for the scientific process and a very disturbing breach of public trust."It is clear that the seminal research published on HIV contained unjustified claims and alterations. In 1993, governmental investigators determined Gallo had so poorly recorded his key and much-cited experiment that it was impossible to repeat and verify it.In the early 1990s, several highly critical reports on the research underlying Gallo's papers were produced as a result of governmental inquiries working under the supervision of scientists nominated by the National Academy of Sciences and the Institute of Medicine. The Office of Research Integrity (ORI) of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services concluded that the lead paper of the four was "fraught with false and erroneous statements" and that the "ORI believes that the careless and unacceptable keeping of research records . . . reflects irresponsible laboratory management that has permanently impaired the ability to retrace the important steps taken." Further, a Congressional Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations produced a staff report on the papers, containing scathing criticisms of their integrity.Rethinking AIDS — an international group of more than 2,600 scientists, doctors, journalists, health advocates and others — offers several eminent medical and scientific experts to comment on this and other AIDS issues currently in the news:Etienne de Harven, M.D.*Professor Emeritus, University of TorontoSaint Cézaire, FranceMember and professor in cell biology, Sloan Kettering Institute, New York, 1956-1981. Isolated and obtained the first electron microscopic studies of the murine Friend leukemia virus, and retroviral budding. Frequent critic of the "isolation" of HIV, and past president of Rethinking AIDS. Dr. de Harven can comment on the science of retrovirus isolation.Janine RobertsInvestigative ReporterBristol, U.K.janAuthor, Fear of the Invisible, a recent book exposing the fraud in the drafting of one of the original 1984 Science articles by Robert Gallo.Web site: www.fearoftheinvisible.comMedia Contacts:David Crowe*President, Rethinking AIDSCalgary, Alberta, Canada (Mountain time zone)1-403-289-6609 (office)1-403-861-2225 (mobile)david.croweElizabeth ElyPublic Relations ChairpersonRethinking AIDSBrooklyn, N.Y., U.S. (Eastern time zone)1-718-704-9672 (mobile)publicrelations*Rethinking AIDS board member.Rethinking AIDS: The Group for the Scientific Reappraisal of the HIV/AIDS Hypothesis ("RA" or "the Group") was formed in 1991 to express the concerns of a growing number of renowned scientists and medical doctors about HIV research and the resulting human rights abuses. In 1995, by a letter published in Science, the Group called for a thorough reappraisal of the existing evidence for and against the HIV/AIDS hypothesis and recommended that critical epidemiological studies be undertaken.Among RA's founders and key members are University of Toronto professor emeritus and former cancer researcher Dr. Etienne de Harven; Harvard microbiologist Dr. Charles Thomas; 1993 Nobel laureate for chemistry Dr. Kary Mullis; Nature/Biotechnology co-founder Dr. Harvey Bialy; University of California at Berkeley molecular biologist Dr. Peter Duesberg and the late Yale mathematician Dr. Serge Lang, both members of the National Academy of Sciences; physicist Eleni Papadopulos-Eleopulos of the Royal Perth Hospital in Australia; and Glasgow University professor emeritus of public health and World Health Organization consultant Dr. Gordon Stewart.

oleander soup , "N. Cave" <nellycave wrote:>> Just been reading some mind boggling info regarding HIV-AIDS > especially for me with a hub who has been positive for a long time > (probably 25 yrs and on ARVs for the best part of 15 yrs despite > never being diagnosed as having AIDS and rarely really sick.> > I guess if he survived all that we have a good chance of him > surviving now he has been off ARVs since May. He must be a really > tough nut to crack!!> > Anyone interested just take a look at these:> > http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/hiv/sdgate.htm> > http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/Article/The_Secret_Origins_of_AIDS.html> > wow! > > > > Goodnight to all> Nelly>